>stays traditional and boring for 30 yearsWhen did you realize that this is the philosophy that makes a comfy desktop environment?
in 2019 I was saying the software should update but the desktop environment should stay the same and generic foreverI was implying Cinnamon but now I'm on xfce too.
>>107765542>>107765568I agree with both
>>107765542It's terribly optimized and will lose any reason to exist once they switch to Wayland.
>>107765542Xfeces and cinnamon and all the other gnome 2 forks should join forces and make something actually good and Wayland compatible with no python or JavaScript.
>>107765542when MS attempted to replace perfect and holy win2k design with gay-ass windows XP shit
>>107765609Xfce is not a gnome 2 fork.
>>107765542>When did you realize that this is the philosophy that makes a comfy desktop environment?some time ago
>>107766238>still not 1.0
>>107766290it works, it does what i need, and its cost to me was zeroi don't get hung up over things like version numbers or licensesi love me window maker, i love me xorg, and i love me some *nix
>>107766238I can't use that its stupidly inefficient to have those large as blocks on the side of the screen.
>using a de
>>107765609wayland is a dead endwobbly windows, transparent terminals, and ui cubes aren't a compelling reason to scrap x11 which actually works
>>107768136You know Wayland has security benefits too, right?
>>107768136Wobbly windows, transparent terminals and UI cubes are all X11. I had those on my Arch when Wayland didn't even exist.
>>107768450Fuck security benefits. Tried and true all the way.
cinnamon is just better. there is no reason to use xfce
>>107768450i have yet to see a convincing argument for switching to wayland. x11 fills all my usecases and have never given me any trouble, why would i switch?
>>107765542>gtk shitew
>>107765542Debian stable with XFCE is extra comfy. You can compute like it's still the 1990s, with package versions to match.
I see the 4 Anons using XFCE on their core 2 duo poorbox have come together
>>107765542>just werks>is fast>small footprintworks on my machine>>107765609>xfce >gnome forkwhat>>107768766> with package versions to match.i don't see this. have you tried installing it since 1999 or just lying on the internet the best we can do these days?
>>107768502>cinnamon is just better.never was and never will be
I've used xfce happily for quite some time now but recently I've been seeing weird bright red artifacts when using firefox, chromium window completely bugs out when dragged from half-screen width outwards and stuff like that.
>>107765542this.every big ui change is corporate taking a huge smoking dump on its customers while smiling.that being said, i prefer tiling managers with all my custom shitty scripts. i choose to see as little os ui as possible, if any.
>>107768789It's not fast, I get better performance on GNOME on my shitty old laptop
>>107765542I love Xfce but everything scales like ass on a 4k HiDPI display
