So many parents are actively sabotaging their children's computer skills>be school teacher>have to deal with the most tech illiterate people on earth on a daily basis>parents are now pushing the "screentime limit" for their kids so hard and including homework as screen time>parents always very smug about wielding power over a literal child and laugh about how upset it makes them>parent came in demanding to know how long their child was on a tablet in class so they could deduct it from their screentime allowance, and if their child could use an encyclopedia instead>explain that I am not going to tell them, and the tablets are part of computer literacy and inquiry based learning, and are non negotiable>goes on about how important it is for children to be bored>ask them to show their screen time use on their phone>suddenly that's really personal and inappropriate 100% of parents who talk about "screen time limits" are phone addicts themselves. They stop their kids from watching tv, using computers, playing video games, and then sit their on their phones doomscrolling and ignoring their kids because they saw some influencer talk about restricting screen time to prevent misogyny. If i hear one more parent or co-worker say "andrew tate", always followed by insane demands, i will go mad. Gen Alpha and Beta are going to have massive differences in computing skills because a huge chunk of them are literally never allowed to use a computer for more than 30 minutes a week so they don't get "addicted". All of their parents are alcoholics btw.
>>107765820Scrolling through aislop is not the same as developing computer skills.
>>107765840the parents are the ones scrolling through AI slopKids aren't even able to do their homework in the time the parents allow them to use a computer.
>>107765871You cannot learn any comouter skills on a device designed for brainrot. The OS, the programs, the whole use dynamics is pozzed.
>>107765820My kids use Linux.
>>107765820>computer literacy>tablet
>>107765892research, finding reliable sources, collating information, understanding biases, alternate views on history, facts vs opinions. this is all part of a modern HASS curriculum
>>107765929That's not computer skills.
>>107765929Even less workable when virtually everything on the clear web is under cultural marxist control. If an adult normie is hardly able to discern any of these things, it's gotta be over for alphies.
>>107765820They won’t need to use a computer. By the time they turn 18 AI will do whatever they want
>>107765954This is why we need to actually teach these skills>>107765950yes they are
>>107765981100% this. Education is always behind. I remember learning library usage while in k-12 but by the time I got to college libraries were literally obsolete and everything was done on the Internet. The time spent learning card catalogs and Dewey decimal would have been better spent on anything else. Parents and teachers, don't make those mistakes. Go all in on AI NOW or your children will be left behind. AI is the future.
>>107765820If I ever had children I would never allow them to have a cell phone until 18 years old (same as me, but I never had one by choice), and we wouldn't even own a television in the house nor pay for it, and I would never allow them on the internet. I would use my carefully curated digital archive that I've downloaded and backed up offline to provide my children essentially infinite amounts of digital entertainment restricted to what exists in my offline archive.
>>107765820I fucking hate kids, I fucking despise them, let me tell you I really fucking despise them, I don't give a shit about them they should not be using computers or smartphones or the internet, all of this tech has gone to shit because of "but think of muh kids" and I hate it, I fucking hate modern parents too and I want to cave their head in with a rock.
>>107766023
OP is bait and you are a moron if you believe his post is sincere.
The best thing about having a masters of Primary Teaching, a Masters of Secondary Teaching, and a Masters of Autism in Education is that parents who never went to university and the high point of their career was shift manager at Hungry Jacks for 3 months until they were fired for incompetence is that they all know more about teaching than me and could easily do my job.
A complete ban on western media for my kids.
using anything other than a windows computer runing windows 7 or older(before all the cloud shit) or linux does not make "computer literate" kids
>>107765820>goes on about how important it is for children to be boredWhat?
>>107766082this, my child will grow up on memri tv
>>107765820I have no context on you or the specific situations you’re describing, but I think it’s totally reasonable to limit the amount of time your children spend entertaining themselves with technology. It isn’t the 1960s anymore. Kids don’t use the family computer to self-teach assembly and learn about hardware. They’re not diving into an e-library or learning about the world around them. Most kids I’ve met in the past decade are mouthbreathing retards who speak purely in terms of TikTok memes. The vast majority are not being deprived of well-intentioned internet usage when their parents take away the tablet. When I have kids, they’re not having a tablet or social media period. The modern internet is a dopamine extraction apparatus meant to make children addicted to gambling, porn, and any number of other things their still-malleable brains shouldn’t experience yet.
>>107765820Parents have generationally been hypocrites. Believing that their experience still holds true in the modern day, and attempting to shove the lessons they've learned (even if they don't live by them) onto others.Case in point the worst cable addicts are the generation that told their kids to not get addicted to TV.
>>107766103GenX parenting influencers have a few repeated motifsignoring your children?good, builds independenceyour children are bored? good, this will build creativity. Remember being bored as a kid so you did things? it's like that, except alsoNever let your children do anything!never let them leave the house, never let them have sleepovers, monitor their every moment, never allow them any privacy. make them sit quietly doing nothing then get angry at them for wasting the day!It all revolves around having no responsibility for the children and doing what is most convenient for you. Like the whole "parents should always agree in front of the kid so they have a united front" thing in the 90's.
>>107766103This is a commonly mentioned thing among those who talk about screen addiction and similar topics. The idea is that immediate distraction being always available is bad and knowing how to cope with boredom is important, or that spending some time bored and without access to anything stimulating encourages people to think/imagine/plan things, etc.
>>107766104Why is 4chan turbo Jewish now?
>>107766125The people who want to ignore their kids but absolutely don't want them doing things on their own are mostly relying on phones and tablets to brainrot their kids into passivity. Surely there are retarded parents who ban their kids from using tech and then provide no other alternative thing to do, but the majority of lazy parents will take the easy road and that's giving the kid a touchscreen and letting him scroll the day away.
>>107765892True, i only got really good at computers and programming after i ditched windows.
I figure the best way to teach computer literacy is to "ban" your kid from doing something on a computer and let them struggle to learn on how to do shit while attempting to hide the evidence. They'll learn how to manage file systems, run portable programs and keep icognito while on the internet like the generations before.
>>107765820the parents may be correct for the wrong reasons, i.e. e-learning may have worse outcomes than textbooks, pen and paper.yes, the parents are most likely hypocrites. it used to be their drinking and smoking habits, now it's other habits.> They stop their kids from watching tv, using computers, playing video gamesgen x would find it common that their parents, and their friends parents, did not have computers or game consoles in the house, and sometimes not a tv either.
>>107766363i know someone that does this. the father is in a constant digital fight with the son on the home's openwrt router, e.g. websites accessed, enforced downtime, etc.
>>107765820>be op>a teacher>dont even know the basics about child developmentand then you wonder why the youth are (not only tech-) illiterates
>>107765820>tablet in class
>>107766563>tablet in class>2016>10 years agohttps://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/may/11/students-who-use-digital-devices-in-class-perform-worse-in-exams
>>107766563>Anything other than pencil and paper in class
>>107765820its really nuts as a twentysomething zoomzoom interacting with my cousins, who can't figure out simple things like modding games or installing an OS. When I was their age, I was selling ubuntu installs to my classmates so we could get around our school provided acer netbook's security and play minecraft at 15 fps. I remember going to camps in elementary school that taught me how to do things like edit images, change settings, or set up an account online. Do these things not exist for the younger generation anymore?
>>107766676Everything's collapsing into a voice operated aislop agent requiring internet access 20/7, and nothing can exist outside of that.
>>107766125>>107766137I can believe both these takes.
>>107765820>So many parents are actively sabotaging their children's computer skillsgood
>>107766702>voice operatedEven as a kid, I thought this was pretty dumb. My mom used some kind of dictation app on Windows Vista that would always give her issues. She switched pretty quickly back to touch typing everything. Computers are built to read bytecode and brains are built to understand language, but I guess you can't force people to understand that their magical picture box is just a mathematical difference engine.
>>107766676People are lazy and when you have entire systems built around excess convenience, brainrot and slop you get zoom zooms that can't convert a PDF if their life depended on it.
>>107765820>2037-11>schoolI don't think you understand the bigger picture. They won't need teaching anymore.
Children should be banned from the Internet.I'm not even meming, I mean banned in the same way kids can't have alcohol or cigarettes. Just legislate it as harmful. They can have dumb phones, and network access only under direct adult supervision.It would be really simple to do, but we're too cowardly as a society to even consider it.Think of the benefits. No more online grooming. Kids forced to interact with each other in real life and develop socially in an ordinary manner. No more parents taking the zero-effort route of slapping an ipad in the kid's hands and forgetting about them. No more 'online only' bullshit if you want the market segment.There are almost no downsides to this aside from the initial system shock of doing it. The idea that kids need technology exposure to develop skills is a crock of shit, that was only true back when tech wasn't so tightly packaged. Nowadays you could put an ipad in the hands of an 18 year old that's never seen one and they'll be up to speed in a few hours. Make it a single part of the school curriculum under supervision in the last few years of high school to prepare them for it as part of adult life.PROBLEM SOLVED.
>>107767085at this pacei think 2037 is when the shatbots will finally learn how many r's there is in strawberry
>>107765820>100% of parents who talk about "screen time limits" are phone addicts themselves.Why is that a problem? Wouldn’t that make them more likely to know and understand the dangers of phone addiction? It’s like making fun of a drug addict for warning people not to use drugs. They know firsthand what can happen
>>107767115Funny how this shit works. Clearly it was "thinking" K for Lion King and O for Jell-o.
>>107767809explain V is for X-ray fish.
>>107767830No idea. Just called obvious ones. Remember, AI is literally retarded and there's no telling exactly what pattern triggered that at all.
>>107765820>be teacher>think you know best for children>don't even make your own lesson plan>teach whatever big daddy Government says you should teach>think you're smart because you passed a test a literal idiot could pass>you even paid big money to take said test and sat around for 4+ years learning bullshit like "childhood development">think you have any right to tell anyone how to raise their own childrenKill yourself faggot.
>>107766023>the archive is just 80TB of porn
>>107765820>homeworkThank God for my father. When I was in the 3rd grade the bitch teacher complained that I wasn't doing any homework. She thought she was going to get me in trouble big time since my Dad was known to beat the shit out of us children if we lied, cheated, or stole (the three big no-nos. Back then whipping wasn't considered "child abuse").So she smugly tells my father that I'm not doing homework. His reply was amazing I'll never forget it;>You get him for 8 hours a day. I see him for 3 hours a day if I'm lucky. Home time is our time. Whatever you need to teach him you can teach him in that 8 hours.I never did homework again and they couldn't fail me because I scored so high on the end of grade standard testing that I evened out the curve and made the retards that couldn't read look halfway decent.I never did homework after the 2nd grade and I graduated top of my senior high school class.
>tablets are part of computer literacybait
>>107767920You lost.>>107767909And then instead of getting a job, you started posting on 4chan.
>>107766023And then your children get bullied in school, have no idea how the world works, are unable to live in a society, and either die single and unfulfilled, or their partner will tell them that you're an abusive controlling helicopter parent, they will resent you, move out and not visit you in your nursing home.
>>107769740Or simply end up posting on 4chan on monday.
i've seen those parents at home and yeah they're tyrannical with their kids.Worst is that they don't even want them to go outside ,it's just restricting them as much as they can. Screens bad,outside is dangerous.Gonna create a lot of chuds wich is funny.
>>107766145There are a lot of Unit 8200 and Sayanim here. More than there used to be.
>>107766023shity idea. parents and people who never got a phone in their lives are much more easily get addicted to them rather than people who got bored out of them back in childhood (judging by myself)
>>107769740>And then your children get bullied in schoolI would homeschool obviously. It's child abuse to send your children to nigger daycare.
>>107767793they still set the example for their kids and are dooming them by trying to instill values that contradict their own observable behaviorwomen specifically need to be held accountable for how completely lost in their phones they are. everyone knows porn and video game addiction are shameful and irresponsible, but no one gives women shit for living their entire social lives on a smartphone>jenny posted about X again>but bobby TOTALLY didnt like it and now he's like harassing her asking her why she posted it>but like bobby isnt with like jenny anymore and like davey isn't doing anything and she's like wtf because she feelsthis is the modern young woman and it's pathetic and people pretend it's normalwomen need to be stopped, especially mothers. go play with your kids to the park bitch, and leave the phone in your purse.
>>107771670Cool. Now he can even get bullied as an adult.
>>107771670Ah, so you would want to have your children be friendless NEETs like yourself?
>>107771823>>107771843>your kids will get bullied if you don't let trannies groom them on roblox!and your kids will be molested by trannies while you pretend it isn't happening. i'll take my autistic nerd over your molested future prisoner, thanks.
>>107771823>>107771843>your kids won't be normal if you don't let transvestite teachers brainwash them into taking HRT and mutilating their genitals!
>>107765820>tablets are part of computer literacyI've never known tablet users to be very computer literate at all.
>>107765820>tablets>computer literacyNah that's bullshit. Tablets are the fucking worst we'll all be agreeing they were a terrible mistake for schools in due time.
>>107769675>vidAny adult that knowingly exposes a young child to that faggot hellhole should be locked up.
>>107766624I used a basic tablet and onenote in class it was a godsend.
>>107765820>tablets are part of computer literacysounds like youre illiterate yourself OP
I wonder if there is a way to have dynamic screen time. For example let's say they get 1 hours of screen time but it's double that if they are using a desktop instead of a smartphone.Because on a desktop you may actually learn something Vs a doomscrolling device
>>107766013no they are notthey are research skills, which can be taught just as easily with books, DVDs and newspapers.
