>g is tech board>not one thread covering roboticshow comehttps://x.com/chris_j_paxton/status/2007828743281336780
>>107767513IMAGINE!
>>107767513hey that’s pretty neat!okay we’re done talking about robotics now
most people here dont know anything about technology it's just /v2/ for people who want to talk about twitter and bait linux users
All consumer fa/g/gots do is talk about their favorite tech companies (or programming languages). They rarely deviate from this.
robotics is nowhere near a consumer market existing in a meaningful wayall we have at the moment is actual robot-piloted-by-indian doing extremely simple tasks badly
>>107767513Needs a jean claude van dam movie, where jean claude van dam wins the kicking contest after performing all of his own stunts.
>>107767513when i think of a robot, it should be buildable using open source knowledge. and this is the only thing that comes to mindhttps://github.com/huggingface/lerobotTo answer your question, no one can build one themselves. That's because they require complex hardware components that involve not only electronics but mechanics, which are skills beyond the reach of the average /g/. /diy/ board will answer your question, but thread discussion there is slow. Go to reddit if you want a serious technical discussion.
its all staged. human remote controlling the bots or AI gen'd.
>>107767513Chinese Chudbot9000 smashing Delta Force Operators' skulls with a flipkick
>>107767513Based. Total clanker domination.
>>107767513>UnitreeNice chink propaganda >>107767747
the cool videos are always always unitree, why? >open sourcewhat about the ultimate robot fighting league? the latency is too high but getting better
guy with remote again
>>107767513Looks weird because there is no joint in the neck. Again head feels like placeholder.
>>107767513Most people don't have a $20,000 robot at home where they develop new ground-breaking algorithms.What are we supposed to say? "Cool robot"?
the robot is so slow and robotically predictable in its movement that you can easily dodge that@ me when we get real steel levels of movement
>>107767825>DIDN'T READ, LOL!
>>107767513china is the leader in bipedal robotics and /g/ hates china with a passion(even tho chinese people are amazing(taiwanese people have chinese dna btw))
>>107767513good shit OP, came here just to read how the glowies are coping with this one
>>107767747The method of controling the robot is unimportant to me. The fact these robots can not only stand up right but also run, jump and do gymnastics is incredible.
>>107767513Arnold Schwarzenegger couldn't do those moves..
>>107769255arnold couldn't move much to begin with
do mating dances already wtf soo boring.
>>107769048This.It's annoying how retards dismiss this with:>Hurr it's a remote controlled scam, it's not impressiveWhere as this kind of movement regardless of control is absolutely mind blowing.People have memories of goldfish, or they were barely 2 years old back then and that's why they don't remember, how Petman was considered an incredible advancement and that fucker was able to barely walk without being suspended from wires.That was just 12 years ago and Boston Dynamics basically had a monopoly on advanced bipedal robo tech, no one else was even close.Now we have a bunch of Chinese companies,many being basically startups, that are under 10 years old doing better than what Boston Dynamics has achieved to this day.Robotics is advancing fast as hell at the moment and AI getting infinite funding is a massive speed modifier for the sector.
>>107769048>>107770059use case besides manufacturing literal zogbots?
>>107768844Most people would find 20,000 real fast if they gave em robot bobs
>>107770059I want to work on things like this, but I'm too dumb. Making an artificial android walk and maintaining bipedal balance seems interesting and challenging.Doing things like this >>107767513 is so far beyond my intellectual ability to grasp that I just makes my brain shut down.
>>107770059>orthey're shills, knowingly or unknowingly, that's another story>I wake up>there's another psyops
>>107770059true.with cv ai models it's pretty "exciting" and scary at the same time.I found a guy who shared his way to actually connect your drone and simulate the drone movements in unreal engine so i guess that's also a thing that would lead to a lot of data for x,y,z movements .I wonder how it's going on when it comes to ai drones.also cad ,text llm can already shit out parametric equations of whatev you want ,i had good fun with matplotlib with gemini 2.5pro and that's not even a specialised model. not in the field tho but robotics are super cool (anything hardware related actually and at least hardware instead of getting shittier and shitter like software is getting better)
You are making an assumption that software engineering does any kind of engineering.
You should get used to those things, because they are gonna be the ones bringing you ammo on the battlefield during ww3, and no, they would not fight for you, its the job of biorobots.
>>107770220Did you post this in the wrong thread?What does engineering mean to you?I don't know what engineering means, really. I just learned to program. I just call myself a software engineer because it says so on my degree.
>>107770309u say this as if this didn't apply to you as well
>>107767513what's the maintenance cost on these robots, though? including time spent shipping to the service center.industrial robot arms require maintenance every 3 months, and as i see it robot arms have less precise shit in them.
I don't need a robot that can smash watermelons with a kick. I need a robot that can GROW watermelons in my backyard and any other crop I desire, cook those crops in my kitchen into tasty dishes, and then wash and pack away the dishes, before taking out the garbage, cleaning my bathroom, and washing/drying/folding my clothes. Why dont they make robots that can do this? I don't even need it to fucking walk why do we even care about walking robutts so much again? Focus on make the fucking arm more versatile and more resilient to bugging out in unorthodox states and environment and we might achieve something useful.
>>107770940Well also the arms have to be much thinner and much faster too. I saw some robot arms for the kitchen and they were fucking monstrosities
>>107767513>not one thread covering roboticsThat would require someone to have actual skill and knowledge like electrical engineering; something that cannot be achieved by vibe coding while sipping coffee
>>107767513Imagine that thing kicking you in the balls and you just burst cum everywhere
>>107770994there is a webm of a guy using mocap for a telepresense robot demo and he does a kick and the robot kicks him right in the balls
>>107770940>Why dont they make robots that can do this?They are. They will. They're not just there yet. Making robots have dexterity and control enough to do flying high kicks as a step on the way.
>>107770059https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c
>>107767513The future is having your AR goggles automatically skin an anime girl over one of these things so your VRGF can puppet it through the internet
>>107771157>VRGFVRJF(Virtual Reality Jeet Flunky)
>>107770940>why do we even care about walking robutts so much again?Because the entire world has been designed for humans.This means that you can't just make a non human shaped bot that's able to function in a random environment.The goal is to make humanoid robot that you can take to any manufacturing or work site and show it a task and it'll be able to do it.Pic related is something they've been testing recently. Imagine being able to take this guy and showing it an entirely different task in the factory and it just does it without issues.This is the main goal of bipedal robots, they're simply optimized for all of the human spaces.>>107771123Yeah I can't watch petman walk without hearing this song in my head either.
>>107767513Still nothing can beat this thing.
>>107771205the problem with industrial robotics is having to re-program the thing for new product. smartphone and other plastic shit assembly changes every few months, it's easier to have chinks assemble them by hand than write a program for the robot manipulator.being a humanoid doesn't make the robot any more useful. what you need is AGI which will compile vague instructions into a program. it doesn't even need to ride the robot hand, it just needs to write a program for it once. but the "year of agents" kinda turned to be the year of a wet fart.
>>107771260what's the maintenance cost tho? -> >>107770856
>>107770856>>107771270all of this looks easier to maintain than a modern diesel carnot even joking
>>107771200there's nothing wrong with a jeetF
>>107767747I don’t get why they need legs. give them wheels or tracks. save tens of millions of dollars in R&D plus thousands of dollars per robot.>but stairsevery workplace is already required to be wheelchair accessible per the ADA. any place built with robot workers in mind will find adding wheeled robot specific facilities to be a negligible cost increase.
>>107771290you probably just don't know wtf you're talking about.i also know nothing, but i estimate maintenance cost by the number of DOF in a system. androids seem to have much more DOFs than a car.
>>107771205this dude would have done just fine if he had a segway instead of legs.
>>107771291saar you are my best ally!
>>107771346you too saar, i love you
>>107771205But it literally doesn't even need to be walking there, it could do the same thing on wheels. Most of the world is fairly flat ground. Why when you ask "why don't we have mechs" a million nerds rush out to tell you how dumb it is and inefficient the concept is compared to wheeled/treaded tanks, but apparently no one sees it's the same for these bidpedial robots. I mean it's cool if you want to jerk off your skill level at making robots but you can't really convince me this avenue is really worth the investment/time as opposed to other aspects that could be focused on instead
>>107771304it doesn't look impressive without legs. in fact it looks like an industrial robot, so you're just trying to hype up a toy version of an existing product. can't get money without hype - spaceX basically got carried on the ridiculous mars colony idea.
>>107771344>>107771357Yes in that particular scenario a wheeled design would have worked just fine. Even tracks would have worked.Now take that track/wheel design, walk it up few flights of stairs and maybe even climb a few ladders or extremely steep stairs, then and give it a forklift to drive that works with pedals you need to operate with feet.Not to mention most factories are in China, which can be an absolute clusterfuck to navigate due to little to no regulations.There are simply way too many variables when it comes to the idea of a general purpose worker robot. You practically need for it to have the human form as a basic chassis.Only after the job has been figured you can optimize it. Just take off the feet and replace them with wheels improving efficiency.That kind of a modular design makes producing machines a lot easier and also cheaper, as you don't have to redo the entire base model for specialized tasks.Even if it's not the most optimized design, basic humanoid shape as a platform is about as general purpose as it gets. The only reason why it hasn't been done yet, is because of technological limitations which are quickly going away.
>what the FUCK did you just say about the chosen people?wat do?
>>107771578>laddersI haven’t seen evidence that any of these general purpose humanoid robots can climb ladders. and it would make more sense to design a cheap robot compatible vertical rail system and retrofit factories than try to solve the ladder problem>forkliftsyou ever noticed how self driving cars are self driving cars and not a humanoid robot driving a regular car?
>>107770059US companies are ahead and the reason why is because of AI learning.
>>107772018
>>107772018Anon, I...
>>107771205>imagineIt always comes back to this.
>>107773594That's just the grift economy. No one has time for actual work when you're competing against a billion jeets. It's all about throwing your MVP to the baggies asap and exiting. It's same as those kickstarter scams.
>>107770059The reason people are dismissive remote controlled robots is because there are actually companies that are focusing on autonomous robots.
>>107772108>>107773110He's right. Figure AI has robots operating autonomously in BMW right now. Meanwhile China is focusing on impressing jeets on tiktok with videos of their robots doing preprogrammed kung fu routines.
>>107773706*in BMW factories
>glownigs rn
There's no magic to them anymore, robots are just a cynical way for companies to trick investors.
imagine the suicidal mood in boston dynamics right now
>>107774160Yeah, they must be upset that Figure AI and Tesla have surpassed them.
>>107774262exactly, boston dynamics is celebrating getting BTFO'd by china no less, are you tired of winning yet?
>>107774339Boston Dynamics are irrelevant now. Figure Ai and Telsa are the new top dogs, and China is still a long way off catching up to them in terms of autonomous operation.
>>107767513Anon /diy/ is the technology board. /g/ is for script kiddies.
I work in tech but have begun to hate everything associated with it with every fiber of my being.
>>107774370>Boston Dynamics are irrelevant now.rofl no shit sherlock>b-but Figure Ai and Telsaoh I didn't know tesla bots were BTFOing chinbots, there must be some exclussive footage I haven't seen yet? please do enlighten us!
>>107774415Tesla are behind Figure Ai now, but they're still ahead of China just due to them focusing on autonomy.
Changbots can't do this.
>retards be like "it's le remote controlled!!!"that would actually be even more impressive. too bad it's all fake.
>>107774431>Figure AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu5mYMavctMyes that 85 yo mobility is sure to BTFO china, any time now
>>107774490>turn on the sink bitch>zzzttttt
>>107774490All of the tasks you see it doing in that video are being done autonomously. Changbots simply aren't capable of this. China is not even trying to implement autonomy. They're years behind. All they can do is spinning kicks. The only people still impressed by this are sub 80 IQ arabs and jeets on tiktok.
Only /g/ prides itself on being scammed by grifters who have been exposed time and time again
>>107774586your bots have arthritis, get real
>>107774490needs a maid costume. when will these robotics companies get it?
>>107774647well idk
https://youtu.be/sd8ivhpjI6g
>>107774846>>107774160rofl, what is this timing?
>>107774647I'm just wondering, are richfag sons into that? or they'd just rather import an ukranian instathot prostitute for cheap? idk, I'm not a richfag like that
>>107767513>I herd you wuz talkin' shit bou' my home boy Xi
>>107775627wtf is this real?
>>107775680yes
>>107770059I remember before PETMAN, this little guy was the pinnacle of robotics.
>>107775687what technology can I use to make my cat be do that? she's a lazy piece of shit that just lays on the floor and looks at me like this every once in a while.
>>107775739it has to lift weights every day and eat nothing but protein shakes, it's the only way
>>107775755thanks bro
>>107774160bro go watch the CES keynote.BD is doing fine
>>107775719do you remember this dude?
What are the chances robots will be used for war or legally sanctioned murder for law enforcement purposes sometime in the future? I feel it's unavoidable that somewhere at some point in time someone will try this and it's simply a question of how bad it's going to be. People almost always choose to learn these lessons the hard way after all, so it's just a matter of time.If you had an extremely novel idea or approach to robotics that's been overlooked, ignored, or simply not even imagined/conceived of even in science fiction by everyone but have no desire to have blood on your hands, what should you do? All my life I've wanted to do something with robotics or invent something new and now I believe can do both, but only if I'm willing to accept people will do something really stupid at some point in the future, and I'll at least be partially responsible for having shown people what is possible. I can only wonder if I have some responsibility to share with the world what is possible or if it'd be better to take my ideas to my grave, but I'd have to give up on all my life long dreams. Is it simply too selfish to desire, request, or demand not having blood on your hands?
Economies of scale dont give a fuck about human shapes. The robot, human shaped or otherwise, is going to do the same task billions of times. There is no reason not to design a task-specific robot for the job rather than use a general purpose humanoid. A humanoid bot would have 100x the moving parts, the important parts will be too small/delicate to replace, and every part will wear out faster.
>>107767513Because China can't innovate, simple as.
>>107767513/g/ is NOT a tech board. This entire site has gone to shit since and because of 2016./g/>shills for nVidia>defends Microsoft>shills for Windows>shills for Applethings "real" /g/ would never do in a million years./v/>shills Call of Duty>shills AAA slop>defends major corporations/a/>nothing but coom bait and pedo posting/b/>nothing but porn now.
>>107767513>not covering robotsCall me when they're ROBOTS and not just Jeets in a "Robot" skin: https://www.reddit.com/r/robotics/comments/1ph3scw/tesla_optimus_faints_when_operator_takes_off_vr/
>>107770332>I don't know what engineering meansEngineering is the art of optimizing the behavior of a system (really, any sum of components) that can be modelled mathematically by the means of the scientific method (I.O.W., if you can run a test and get the same result 100 times, you're performing an experiment).Many people associate engineering with designing railroads, bridges, or cars, but really, even financial analysis and coming up with a diet plan can involve the same engineering-like aptitudes necessary to succeed in those same fields.So technically speaking, engineering is not about machines or technology at all. It's just about making sure stuff consistently works in a predictable manner and that it stays that way.
my friend works at amazon roboticsit's pretty much a dead end for now2 leg locomotion is needlessly complicated, but required for any "robot" you'd release as a product, no one's going to buy a robot on 4 wheels or some shitmanipulation is also extremely hard because apparently you can't tell well how exactly to grasp the object with a robot appendage in such a way that it doesn't slip outit all sucks ass for now and will continue to suck for a decade
>>107774415da hell is wrong with these shitskins??? Total Toddler Death.
>>107767513
>>107767513Because trannies dont like anything that is not a smartphone and laptops. They dont like robots, they dont like self driving cars, they dont like electric, they dont like AIs. Castrated brain, literally.
>>107770118/usecaseThink about it for a second straight: Humans didn’t have any predators from thousands of years. We are literal top of the food chain from Homo Erectus at least. Not even tigers and lions are serious threat to individuals of our specie.Now look at drones in Ukraine. This is a real game changer. Be ready to a world of fear dominated by the Robot race.
>>107770118>>107779572In this specific regards, I’m wondering if we could use Robots to protect wildlife. What I means is that there is still much wildlife certainly in Africa and Amazonia but also lots of potential in Russia and the rest of the world. The problem is that it is threatened by greedy people (aka the Jews) that will take their habitats for agriculture and will exploit their resources.The government should make laws that confine all humanity to the big cities. Let’s call them the Megalopolis. Outside the cities it will be the realm of the robots. Their orders will be to kill anyone coming out of the Megalopolis and protect the wildlife that will come back to its origins. People will likely be allowed to travel between Megalopolises by special permission with very expensive airlines. Further, there will be spaceports with subsidized one way traveling to the Megalopolis on Mars and the mines on the asteroid belts where adventurers will have an occasion to get rich.Robots are a great opportunity to change the world
>>107777693>This entire site has gone to shit since 2016thanks for outing yourself as a 2013 era redditfag
>>107774490If it can work 24/7 it doesn't really matter how slow it is. 85 year old mobility is bad because they are slow and can move for like half an hour before needing to rest plus needing to sleep.
>>107779636Damn, that's stupid.
>>107767513you could make a persistent robot thread where you--and here's the key point--make your own goddamn robot, but you won't and even if you did you wouldn't have either the money or the material to blog about your "project" every day.
>>107779478I like electric trains, but FUCK electric cars. Also, most robots out there there in use are just robotic arms, gantry robots, or four-wheeled AGVs that look nothing like humanoid robots and are just used in warehouses and manufacturing/assembly plants. There's nothing sexy about industrial robots.
>>107771260Chinks won
>>107767513It is very expensive and hard to build your own robot, so there are very few robotics enthusiasts. I would say it might be possible to discuss robotics-related software development in this board as you can at least simulate shit on Gazebo. But I am afraid that the software side of robotics has been overrun by AI slop, so it is hard to discuss interesting topics like robotic grasping and manipulation or locomotion.
robotics is gayit's some sci-fi shit, its not something that will ever be real or viable
>>107781327Industrial robots are very real and reliable you retard, nowhere near sci-fi
>>107781389im talking about the humanoid shitits a meme
>>107767806Wrong, that was just a robot with a real human brain inside. They woke up and they're having some trouble accepting their new reality.
>>107778169>2 leg locomotion is needlessly complicated, but required for any "robot" you'd release as a productclearly not. look at all the robots on sale today. if they’re for consumers (robot vacuums, robot lawnmowers, pool cleaning robots) they’re an overgrown hockey puck on wheels.if they’re sold to companies, they’re generally an arm on a metal box bolted to the ground. no locomotion at all. near as I can tell the only robots with legs available as viable products are robot dogs with 4 of them.
>>107770856>what's the maintenance cost on these robotsDefinitely less than the average monthly wagie salary. Plus a robot wont complain, wont slack off, and work 24/7. The job market will be fucked in the next 10 years
Only leftoids and sub 80 IQ midwits use the term "how come"
>>107783417why is that?
>>107780894No, that’s a great idea. I really hope that happens
I worked in a robotics startup about 6 years back. We were doing only the warehouse robotics (as a turnkey solution) - shit similiar to the Amazon warehouse robots, aka Kiva platforms, aka the wagie cage platform. We used three different platforms:First was very similiar to Kiva, basically a copy of it. It used QR codes (glued to the floor in a grid) for navigation + sensors for obstacle detection and other shit. It carried one small rack with boxes for the wagies to pick. These came with a complex controller system running on Linux, written in Java iirc. The system was absolute fucking dogshit to use, manage, maintain, and worst of all - connect to existing warehouse systems. Yet, despite all of that, the overall solution sort of just worked, once the initial shit was sorted out. I still have a backup of that VM somewhere.Second platform was also similar, with a few internal differences, but came with no software, no firmware, no nothing.Third platform was called AGV - tall, clunky, dangerous faggots with 1/5 of performance of the Kiva platform and shit build quality.I was building all the IT infra shit for these + helped with the implementation. So many stories from those two years...Ever since then I really dont like clankers.
humanoid robots suckgive the cool single arm robot tank treads and let it fucking haul ass through the factory
>>107786852Endless fucking about in ROS would do that. pic unrelated
I work at a warehouse with robots that constantly get in my wayLike they don't give a shit and consider themselves more important than humansThey need to give them hearingSo if I yell at the fuckers to get out of my path, they reactDeaf robots are no goodBut yeah its dystopian as fuckThe robot takeover is real, I have a front row seatI will be unemployed and destitute soon
>>107767513robotics is covered over on /diy/, which is 4chan's actual tech board. this board is consumers and trannies.
>>107767513Nice, robot girls need to be athletic. We're getting there...
>>107779636> Outside the cities it will be the realm of the robots. Their orders will be to kill anyone coming out of the Megalopolis>hack GPS data (surprisingly easy to do)>robots confuse megacity for wilderness >cities become giant kill box for machines Terrible idea, even if you ignore simple hax. Not a bad movie plot tho
>>107779478>trannies dont like anything that is not a smartphone and laptopsdon't forget social media, it's how they reproduce
>>107770059>That was just 12 years ago and Boston Dynamics basically had a monopoly>Now we have a bunch of Chinese companies,....doing better than what Boston Dynamics has achieved to this day.Boston Dynamics more secretive than you'd think. They're not pushing products, they're purely research company, so they have no reason to show off, and doing so would actually be counterproductive to their strategy.Anything they "advertise" is work they've moved away from. For example they didn't even reveal the new atlas until it was time to retire the old one. The stuff they're actually working on will never be seen until they've learned all they can and have already moved onto the next big new thing that we'll never get to see till it's already old news.
>>107779636>The government should make laws that confine all humanity to the big cities. Let’s call them the Megalopolis.Get fucked. Living in urban environments is pure kikery, and is what has destroyed the spirit of man by and large.
>>107771260>>107781141>Is that a walking cycle?>WAOW!!
