Should i use arch/artix or gentoo with upstream prebuilt binary packages?

>>107769309
You might as well just use Arch. Make sure that the testing repo is enabled in pacman.conf to get access to bleeding edge binaries.

>>107769328
I don't really care about bleeding edge testing repo

>>107769049
Hello, complete noob here. Installed Mint yesterday because I absolutely despise Windows 11. I mainly use my pc for gaming and studying (Anki, pdfs and web resources). Do you have any advice for a linux newbie?

>>107769449
Don't be scared of the terminal. Embrace it, learn commands, learn how to use apt.

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>>107769049
He just sold his bad apples code to steve and dumped all his un patched code to create mac osx.

>>107769049
>in 2000 steve jobs offered a neet the chance to become a billionaire
>the lincel chose instead to live a life of fosstardism and poorfaggotry

i cannot express how much i hate dotfiles not being copied on cp commands, not being shown in ls without -a, and a bunch of other special cases
like holy fucking shit I lost so much configuration because this retarded fucking super special rule my god it pisses me off so much
the incantation to treat dotfiles as normal files (because they fucking ARE) is useless because i use a bunch of remote machines and i cant do it everytime im using a remote

There should be a section called
>What are my alternatives to buggy wayland?

>>107769449
Learn the basics, how to edit photos, how to view PDFs, how to make spreadsheets. Learn how to do things, not how to run this or that software

>>107769551
X11, XLibre and soon.. err.. Phoenix, it was called?

>>107769551
Dwm (the Windows compositor, not the tiling window manager)

>>107769541
Isn't his net worth something like $50 million?

>>107769842
linux is a kernel

>>107769842
based open bsd enjoyer

>>107769842
Linux documentation has always sucked.

>>107769836
This needs a label/annotation showing the snapshot for each month/year or whatever the timeframe is.
If I hit pause somewhere what month/year is that snapshot showing?
This is a really useless video.

>>107769449
Depending on the type of software it would be better to install the flatpak version over the apt version.

>>107769541
If linus joined apple his fame would've forever lived in the shadow of steve jobs unlike how things are now

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Is setting up / running Arch in a VM a reasonable first step to leaving the Windows botnet?
My experience has always been installing some linux distro (with my latest experience being mostly Arch install with hyprland) fresh onto a throwaway laptop I have lying around, tinkering for a few hours before I inevitably crash out because getting a particular hardware working (usually bluetooth related...) was apparently too much to ask for me
Will testing all my hardware / programs in a VM have some kind of parity with installing Arch on my bare metal?
I'm aware that dual boot is another route to go, is that preferable for my case?

>>107769828
He was given a fuckton of Red Hat stock he's set for life.

>>107769903
>>107769541
Also, even Apple themselves use Linux for their servers now. If you follow mailing lists closely you'll occasionally see Apple employees pop-up to ask an answer questions. I call that winning in the end.
iOS and macOS is the OS used for iToys and Linux is the system used to get shit done.

>>107769901
Learning new OS via VM is always a good choice to get your feet wet

>>107769541
Linus is a multimillionaire as it is. He was merely offered a job, not an equal stake in the company.

>load up a ventoy with distros
>check out fedora workstation live
>it actually has the features a workstation user would want setup out if the box even if it's totally different from windows
If I'm actually going to be using this machine for nothing except 3D and office work then this actually seems tailored pretty well, I'm surprised.

Seems like a Debian-based distro on a laptop and a Fedora distro on desktop might be a good conbo, don't know how heavy Fedora is though.

Is Cinnamon in any way based on KDE Plasma? This feels very similar, although Plasma seems more like a carbon copy of something from Windows 7 at least on Fedora.

>>107770044
Cinnamon started as a fork of GNOME3 that became its own thing. Basically wrangling GNOME3 into something that actually looks like a normal desktop and not whatever GNOME is now.
KDE Plasma 5/6 basically tries to be a copy of Windows 10. KDE Plasma 4 tried to be like Vista/7 but no one liked it.

>>107769449
Learn enough about using the terminal to be able to follow tutorials and troubleshooting guides you find online.
- Here's a guide to the basics of the shell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ii48qYBxA
or if you prefer text: https://manpages.debian.org/trixie/manpages/intro.1.en.html
- Then, learn the bare basics of how to use a common terminal text editor (nano and/or vi are on basically every system) so that you can edit config files etc.
- LLM's are pretty good at explaining to you what shell commands do
- If you decide to get deeper into using the shell, I recommend giving fish (Friendly Interactive Shell) a try because it saves a lot of time compared to the standard bash
- If you have an Android phone, check out Termux, which unlocks a whole new world of use cases for your phone for those who know how to use Linux shells.

>>107769861
Pretty sure it's just random AI slop, look at the map title

>>107769901
The only issue with vms is graphic acceleration being hit or miss

>>107770159
That explains why it's so blurry.

what reasons are there to use firewalld over ufw?

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>>107769449
tl;dr 3 backups before tinkering, prioritize software in official default repo, don't hurry, think and have fun

I am literally you. Last 16 years of using Linux (now Mint), this is my tips:
>before changing something, create filenameORIGINAL/COPY/BACKUP123
>if it is system files, do same but also timeshift backup
>create basic simple backup script with alias and copy this to large things like for your browser/anki/userfiles/game etc.
Linux never breaks. It is always the user that does something, breaks something and then is fucked because there is no backup. Also keep your /home/user on separate drive. It is so comfy to just reinstall or change distros and just mount the home back. Also backup your home partition before changing distro because again: most of us are retarded and make fast stupid decisions so you overwriting accidentaly whole home drive is possible (easiest is to unplug the sata cable before installing and repluging after).

Also ppa:s feels nice but try to change to programs you can get from the default official repos. If you use ppa (for example I use that for my Abrowser from Trisquel), make 100% sure your repository is for same Ubuntu and/or Debian version your Mint version is based on. Then you can make it safer to limit priority so that Mint doesn't replace most of the packages on your system with wrong ones. Just add /etc/apt/preferences.d/something and put this inside:
Package: *
Pin: origin url.example.org
Pin-Priority: 50

>>107770283
If you like Red Hat's pointless abstraction better than Canonical's pointless abstraction.

Learn NFtables instead.

>>107770283
When you want more granular firewall control. UFW is fine for like 90% of users.

>>107770283
firewalld is nice if you're dealing with heavy containerization or libvirt, where the network configuration has to make complex changes all the time. ufw is basically just a standard interface for packages to ask for an open port.

Is there a flowchart for picking a distro?

>>107770859
Want updoots? -> Arch
Don't want updoots? -> Debian

>>107770859
distrochooser.de

>>107769049
So why can my browser show Japanese just fine but when I open LibreOffice or Notepad it shits the bed? Is it because I haven't installed any fonts yet?

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>>107771639
>>What are some cool programs?
Also why did no one tell me that I can apt search repositories? It's so fucking useful.

>>107769546

 cp .* destination/  

?
and also you can use rsync
>the incantation to treat dotfiles as normal files (because they fucking ARE) is useless because i use a bunch of remote machines and i cant do it everytime im using a remote
not quite sure what that means
>>107769901
>I'm aware that dual boot is another route to go, is that preferable for my case?
its relatively safe and trivial with two drives
you should make a backup anyway beforehand
>>107770073
>*you have now unlocked a core memory about glorious gnome 2*
*cries*
>>107770859
there is this amazing meme:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
>>107771665
you can do a lot of neat shit with managers

you can install older versions of packages downloaded from distro's website or compiled from places like AUR
you can check what files were installed by what package
you can ignore certain packages when updating your system
you can install packages for a different architecture
etc.

I might reinstall my OS. I'm currently on Ubuntu. Should I stick with Ubuntu or move to Debian? On this old dogshit laptop I think Debian might boot a bit quicker.

>>107772081
I don't understand how to download a font when you want one.
I tried apt get fonts-ipafont and it didn't work.
I then I tried apt install fonts-ipafont and that didn't work. I'm on Ubuntu btw.

>>107772212
they all boot quick if you remove GUI bloat

>>107772348
"it didnt work" doesnt help us much

neat thing about CLI FOSS software is that it 99% of the time comes with very verbose and descriptive error messages, sometimes even straight up telling you what to do
so what exact command did you type in?
and whats the error message?
was it

 apt get fonts-ipafont 

or was it the actual command

 sudo apt-get install fonts-ipafont 

?
or

 sudo apt install fonts-ipafont 

? which is the same thing

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thinking of switching from fedora kde to arch, i have my /home/ as a separate partition on the same disk as my existing efi and boot partitions. am i right in thinking that itd be easier to preserve my shit by just doing a manual install and skipping archinstall? i did it once before a few years ago so im not too worried if i have to. just afraid archinstall might fuck up my partitions

>>107772486
I think you can use Archinstall with manual partition setup too... But it's always safer to do things manually yourself.

>>107769449
you can use tab autocomplete in terminal
you can use wildcard to expand filenames in terminal command like

 cp *.jpg folder/ 

most of the times guides omit that you are supposed to use privilege elevation (sudo in your case) for some commands
use arch,slackware and gentoo wikis, these are the best wikis out there
>>107772486
i'd say it would be safer as long as you dont fuck up royally
i'd still make a backup tho

>>107772360
True. Maybe I should stick with Ubuntu and customise it like I've done in the past.

>>107769541
>american offers you "a job"
>(it really meant a lifetime dick sucking)
humiliation ritual

>>107769541
The contract would have fucked him over completely.

>>107772360

enlighnment is really fast but yeah that's like 600/700mo if you compare with wm that are 100mo ram comsumption

>>107769449
Assuming you installed Cinnamon, in ‘Settings’ go to ‘Gestures’ and turn them on to switch between ‘Workspaces’ or virtual desktops if you come from Windows. Make sure its under ‘Swipe with three fingers’ and that its ‘Triggered at gesture start’. It just makes your workflow so much better than Windows stupid laggy 4 finger swipe to change virtual desktops. You should also add an applet for Workspace Switcher. I think it helps to not clutter up your life with “windows” ;)

>>107772435
>sudo apt-get install fonts-ipafont
This one works but then it tells me it can't locate the package despite being able to search for it.
>sudo apt install fonts-ipafont
Same for this

>>107769541
I don't know why you are bitter about someone who chose to stick to his guns, even if you think he is an idiot doing so. It's not like either party lost anything, if you ask me, I think it was Jobs trying to murder the competition because he based a lot of Apple OS stuff off of that.

Hello /g/ooners

I just recently threw together a quick new box because the most recent nvidia drivers fucked my shit up and I figured it was a good excuse to tinkertranny.


I switched to Artix with XLibre and KDE plasma (cope, I have a job). I chose the dinit init system kinda on the fly, but I did more research and OpenRC is probably the more mature one while still being up to date enough with modern paradigms.


Thoughts? Discuss Artix init system options with me

It finally happened to me, after a year of using Arch with issues, today and I updated and Plasma just completely shat itself, I just got a black screen upon login instead of the desktop.
Resetting Plasma settings kinda worked and now I can at least see the desktop, but I think something is corrupted. Some widgets are not working or showing icons properly.

But shortly before I updated, Brave browser for some reason completed deleted all its settings and cached data. I don't know if it's related to the Plasma issue, but I'm wondering if my NVMe where the system is installed is dying.

>>107772769
Sounds like you have serious data corruption issues. Check your shit for integrity... and the SMART too.

>>107772685
weird

 sudo apt update 

maybe?
>>107772701
>It's not like either party lost anything,
all of humanity has lost cause jobs didnt die in a horrific car accident 30 years ago
>>107772735
openrc is second most popular choice
its a good choice, a lot of distros use it

>>107772769
Dude, your snapshots? That was your one chance to use btrfs snapshots so that you could pretend that setting it up wasn't a waste of time, and you squandered it. I can't believe you.

>>107772826
>second most
What is the first?

>>107772735
These days it seems like dinit is the better init choice
I've used runit and openrc in the past and both sucked when used on artix compared to using runit on void and openrc on alpine/gentoo

>>107772830
Doesn't help if the hardware is shitting itself

>>107772879
systemd obviously

>>107772826
I updated and it just tells me I can update packages but it doesn't update

>>107772954
yes its to update links to repos and shit
now try installing the package

>>107772954
weird, never mind its updating now, maybe I did something wrong without realizing it.
>>107772970
Yeah, maybe I forgot to hit the Y and errored it out accidentiallly

never used an immutable distro before, if system files are read only how do they handle sudo config or storing user password?

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>>107772791
I did a smart check and hardware everything is fine. But I had '290 Unsafe Shutdowns'. And I think the culprit is gamescope. After I installed it, it would sometimes crash when shutting down certain games, and when that crash happened, if I tried to power off the system later on, it would just hang and I was forced to forcefully shut it down. That might be what cause the data corruption.

Any good wayland options for bottom titlebar? KDE seems to have lost support at some point, and I find few infos otherwise. I really want to prevent having to code it myself.

>>107773178
Why would you want that? Just to be different?

>>107773178
>bottom titlebar?
like for each window?

>>107772999
folders like /etc and /var are not immutable and can be modified without being overwritten
Immutable distros are a meme and create problems that dont exist on regular distros.

>>107773272
Yes. Why else? Some customization is fun.

>>107773285
Yes.

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What did podman mean by this?

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What the fuck is gcc14-libs that's taking 10 hours to compile?

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2026
flatpak maxxin

>>107773700
I've got fewer flatpaks than that but I've got more brew packages than that (yes I use Homebrew on Linux, it's pretty useful for CLI software)

>>107773361
This is actually a really good way to explain someone how CPU names work until you get to the AMD part, provided they know Pokemon evolutions

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>>107769049
How many of you guys are using a steam deck?

GOD i went to check out catalog and its full of subhuman tier posts again

>>107774070
Microslop has reached a new low point in its self-destructive downward spiral, so the bots are in a full damage control mode.

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How do I remove these black lines in my XFCE panel?

>>107774169
Are they supposed to be there? Probably an X11 compositing bug?

>>107774100
nah good meme but i think its some mentally ill individual (ive seen a thread about one such guy on kiwifarms) and a bunch of choldren from sharty

its not a very good strategy to make AI call people jeets for using linux as a microsoft employee cause its a massive friendly fire and if it ever gets leaked it'll cause pretty nasty consequences
people wont give a shit if the news story is that microsoft is shilling their shit but if the news story is that they are doing it by calling people streetshitters now THAT will multiply damage by a factor of 100
plus some of your streetshittin' employees that will be in charge of the disinformation campaign might rebel

>>107769449
learn the file system, especially how it works differently from windows, i.e. mount points, links, /etc/, virtual files, sockets, etc.

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>>107774185
I figured it out. The border size was at zero, making the icons pop out. Changing the size to 1 fixed the issue.

Anyway, does anyone know how to make the windows in the panel have square corners instead of round corner?

>>107769328
>He doesn't use slackpkg update
Lol LMAO LMFAO ROFLMAO ROFLMFAO

How do you use LBRY I remember it being a thing years ago.

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anyone know any good audiobook programs? im using cozy but its kind of GNOME bloatware.

inb4 just use mpv

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I don't want another Gentoo install to fuck up the moment they rev python AND IT ALWAYS FUCKS UP THE MOMENT THEY REV PYTHON.
I'm in the Live CD right now what do I install that I can bootstrap onto this laptop.

>>107769049
hii, Noob anon here. I'm wanting to move to linux because win 11 sucks but i only have a Galaxy Book Go (ARM64, windows only) and noone seems to figure out yet how to properly put linux on it and idk what to do either.

>>107769049
chat, is this real?
https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/whole-system-freezes-while-gaming/20518

>>107775027
>Gentoo
Just use Arch and stop hurting yourself.

>>107775119
ARM, especially qualcomm arm is kinda cursed on Linux. You're SOL unless you get yourself a cheap mini pc or used thinkpad.

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>>107769915
cope

>>107776225
lmfao that picture

>>107769541
who's winning now?

>>107772081
>not quite sure what that means
i can only imagine he's talking about ctrl+h in fm's to toggle hidden files

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my little i5 can't candle this...

>>107775119
check if your device or something similar is on the list
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Main
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/

>>107774304
I'm not certain, but I would assume it depends on your gtk theme.

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Has anyone recently tried running adobe software under Linux? How were the results? Specifically photoshop and illustrator.

I know that game compatibility (via compatibility layers) is getting better and better, was wondering if that goes for other software as well beyond games

>>107775027
How did it fuck up? I feel like you're missing some info here because you could have just added a package.mask entry to stay on the older Python instead of installing them both (and then needing to add the new version to PYTHON_TARGETS and optionally PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET)

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>want to install a random distro manually to a PC (the neckbeard way of installing)
>boot up Ubuntu installer because Ubuntu installer has a nice live system
>want to install over SSH because don't want to drag the PC over to your desktop
>Ubuntu live system doesn't come with SSH (also F2FS utils are missing (want to create F2FS root))
What are some recommended live systems for this purpose? I already neckbearded myself such a system but it just so happens not to boot with this particular old Intel PC, works with my two new'ish AMD systems.
And I know I can install stuff while on the live Ubuntu system, it just feels retarded.

>>107777690
>Ubuntu live system doesn't come with SSH
aint no way?
>want to install over SSH because don't want to drag the PC over to your desktop
so what exactly are you trying to do? start livecd and connect to it over ssh?

>>107777690
install
gentoo

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>>107777767
Literally doing that.
>>107777764
There is a way, I can install SSH server with APT but it feels retarded doing so as it's all lost on reboot.
>start livecd and connect to it over ssh?
Yes. And I can do that but I'm asking if there's a smarter live system than Ubuntu installer.

>>107777807
both arch and gentoo have pretty neat on GUI installers that jst throw you into livecd environment
im not 100% if they have sshd tho

>>107777856
i fucking hate this keyboard

>>107777856
>they have sshd
they do you just have to start them

>>107777287
Haven't bothered installing CS6 in Linux for my wine prefix. Might report back if I do that.
I don't actually know if wine has a functional 'hosts' file or do I need to use something external like OpenSnitch to stop the wineserver pinging out Adobe ip addressess. In any case I'll find these answers via search engines faster than from this thread... Bye.

I'm editing

MAKEFLAGS

in

makepkg.conf

. Does the numeral after -j specify the amount of physical cores that my processor have? So that if I have six physical cores I should specify -j6?

>>107778033
its not just about cores, gentoo guide also talks about RAM
if i remember correctly they recommend 2 Gb per core
you should check their handbook tho

>>107778057
Really? Can you link it? There's no mention of that in the Arch wiki:
>Users with multi-core/multi-processor systems can specify the number of jobs to run simultaneously. This can be accomplished with the use of nproc(1) to determine the number of available processors, e.g. MAKEFLAGS="--jobs=$(nproc)".
Although I suppose running multiple processes in parallel does have some bearing on the amount of RAM in use.

real women (t girls) use Arch.
cishit men just can't compete.

>>107778140
>Although I suppose running multiple processes in parallel does have some bearing on the amount of RAM in use.
the absolute state of arch shitters.

How did you guys learn Vim? Like, actually learn it.
I did all of vim-adventures, got an anki deck and went through the first chapter of vimtutor, it feels like a great pace but there's just a fucking lot of stuff to interiorize

>>107778166
>learn vim
you don't.
just use it. learn a new command when you feel you're pushing a button repetitively to get to where you want
don't try to learn it. absolute waste of time since none of it will stick.

>>107778162
relax not every teenager on this board needs to have basic understanding of compsci
>>107778140
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Stage#MAKEOPTS
this one i believe
>>107778166
vimtutor and then just use it
noone uses even 50% of vim's keybindings, trust me on that one
we only use stuff that we actually need
usually you come across something inconvenient/problem and then you wonder of there is a solution to that in default vim and then you look it up and then it turns out that there is and then you just start using the solution on daily basis

>>107778162
I mean, intuitively, I'm sure running tasks in parallel does utilize more RAM, but I'm not going to say so definitively because I ultimately don't know. And I would've installed something like Mint or Bazzite had Arch not been shilled to me. This isn't the first time that you've harassed me either. Do you patrol these threads or something?

>>107778219
depends more on what is being compiled.

>>107769449
don't be afraid to try new software. rather than trying to get windows software running, looking for a natively supported linux alternative.

>>107778219
This:
>>107778237

Big object files being compiled (LLVM, Chromium, etc) will use a lot of RAM if you run them with too many cores/threads. Spawning the subprocesses is cheap, combining fucktons of object files together in one go (all of which are pretty ridiculous in size sometimes) is not.

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This is a fresh install of kubuntu and when I try to install either of the nvidia drivers I get this same error. Anybody know what this means or how to fix it?

>>107778381
Oh hang on, I'm using ubuntu 24.x and according to nvidia's page it looks like they only released drivers up to 20.x Is that my problem potentially?

>>107778140
2GB per compilation thread is likely what you need, it all depends on so many factors like the language used.
Set up ZRAM too, it's likely you'll exceed 2GB per thread at some point.
>>107778033
You can also use $(nproc) to make it portable between different setups with different number of CPU threads.
>cores
Threads.
>>107777856
Oh cool, the guys invented desktops.

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>>107769049
I posted it in /hsg/ but may as well post it here too.

What are your opinions on dataset recordsize for a ZFS SSD mirror that will host Linux virtual machines? I'm torn between 16k, 32k, and 64. My gut says to do 16k, to reduce write amplification, but I'm wondering if that might have adverse affects on KVM/QEMU VMs. The vms will be raw img files.

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Tried installing Nobara and got the this issue. Then tried Fedora and got the same issue. The screen goes dark and you can't continue the installation process. I was using alt+space to try and run something but I just kept getting the same message. I'm using 12400 and 960 4gb.
Nobara-43-KDE-2025-12-27.iso
Fedora-KDE-Desktop-Live-43-1.6.x86_64.iso

A search shows that it's not only me or those particular distros. I'm not well versed enough with Linux to know how to fix something that isn't even installed yet.

>>107778469
Sounds like something is wrong with the KDE in the installation environment. Try booting with graphics fail safe or nomodeset. Once you get it installed then it'll work fine.

Here is a low down on Linux distros and who they are for
>Arch
Trannies
>Ubuntu
Faggots
>Fedora
Faggots
>Gentoo
Faggots
>Mint
Ultra Faggots
>Catchy
Faggots
>LFS
Galactic Level Faggots
>Suse
Faggots
>Slackware
Heterosexual white men

There you go. There is only one distro for the straight white man

>>107778432
Probably not, you're going to need to give us more than that though. I'd try installing the nvidia drivers in the terminal. You should get a better error message that we could actually help with.

>>107778469
You could try a text based installer since it's KWin crashing. It's been forever since I've installed anything but Debian, so I can't tell you how to get there with Fedora. It's pretty easy with Debian though.

My gut blames your 960 and/or KDE. There's a reason why everyone shits on Nvidia Linux support and Krashing Desktop Environment.

The easiest thing would probably be to try installing from a live usb with another DE like MATE, XFCE, Cinnamon, etc. At the very least it won't be KWin crashing if you do.

>>107778437
>ZRAM
>memeram
just use compressed swap, which is zswap, and a real swap partition or file.

What fonts should I install for comprehensive, consistent glyph coverage?
I'm on Artix btw.

would the easiest way to turn a USB port on and off be with powertop? can it do individual ports?

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>>107778545
>NixOS
10x coders that shit on everyone else.

>>107777287
>>107777967
I might have backuped a wrong CS6 installation archive (I had couple of different one) and I could not get the keygen to work. Too annoyed to try again, maybe in couple of weeks. But you need these dependencies anyway:
>allfonts dotnet40 dotnet48 dotnetdesktop6 dotnetdesktop8 dotnetdesktop9 vcrun2022 d3dcompiler_43 d3dcompiler_47 d3dx9 atmlib gdiplus msxml3 msxml6 vcrun2005 vcrun2005sp1 vcrun2008 ie6 fontsmooth-rgb gecko
There's some overlap but because vc2022 is installed first this doesn't matter.
Still thinking about migrating back to windows even after few months of using this shit daily.

>>107778786
typos galore yes yes, fuck you

>>107775531
does anybody have any ideas on this?

>>107778800
i'm not in your chat. i would not be caught dead in a chat with you.

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should it be safe to update nvidia drivers from the debian experimental repo or should i just wait? 550 ain't good

>>107778822
What's the worst that happens? You just get kicked to a text console and reinstall the sid version. I wouldn't be afraid to do it.

>>107778817
ye ye, read the thread, tell me what you think about solving/diagnosing the problem.

>>107778720
Use case for physical swap?

>>107769541
>anon cannot comprehend that some people have spine and self worth
many such cases

>>107769836
never post anything similar pls
this is fucking useless

>>107778822
it depends on how confident you are that you can fix it if it doesn't work

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>>107778545
best distro for pedophiles?

>>107778526
How does this work? I opened the grub and added nomodeset, when I was done it booted normally and didn't give me the chance to boot from the flashdrive.

>>107778552
I messed with KDE Plasma in Bazzite and I liked it. I didn't like cinnamon all the much.

>>107769449
There’s tons of good YouTube channels that will help the transition. Just try to keep in mind that anything that seems odd only seems that way because Windows did it wrong. Not necessarily always the case but for most things Linux a group of relatively knowledge people came together and decided to do it for a reason. For most Microsoft decisions either a lone Indian made an executive decision that nobody bothered to question or a Jewish committee did it to make .1% more profit at the expense of usability.
Linux is infinitely better and you don’t need to be a power user nerd to get it

>>107778822
update
mainly wanted newer drivers cuz screen tearing for touhou and i didn't want to switch to x11
new drivers fixed it, but web browser is slow
it'd be best to wait for a stable release

>>107779684
Try this.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/getting-started/#_nvidia

Otherwise you could try doing a Debian install. They have a text based installer and you can pick KDE as the DE and deselect whatever is the default in the installer.

>>107769901
You can also just install Ubuntu/mint whatever for easy + drivers, then install hyprland, then log out and change the session to hyprland and log back in. Aside from the package manager there isn’t a huge difference between the two distros (for someone getting their feet wet anyway)

>>107779678
https://sourceforge.net/projects/suicide-linux/

>>107774222
My fellow teens would never shit up your ‘log ong unless it was funny

>>107778545
>There is only one distro for the straight white man
Yes, and that's Debian. The only people who unironically use Slackware are boomers who still believe dial up is new technology.

>>107779802
well its not very funny and there needs to be some explanation behind 24/7 "buy macbook now buy buy buy buybuybuy", "bindows is better because bideogames" and "linux is when troons and browns" nonstop bait

>>107778720
>>107779570
Doesn't ZRAM count as "real swap" as it's considered a block device?
How would ZRAM + Zswap work together?

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Is it just me or the debian wiki gives 403?
https://wiki.debian.org/

>>107780363
Loads for me

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>>107769049

>>107778444
could I have that pape, anon? pretty please c:

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>>107780805
yandex my dude

>>107769049
Based Steve Jobs was a fag who rejected chemo and ate fruits instead

>>107769449
If it's steam you use for bought games bazzite is better. If not zorin os is lighter on ram and cpu

>>107780890
Not bad. Makes me realize how much google gimped its reverse image search

>>107778142
agp

>>107780974
it's been long enough i don't remember when google reverse image search was good, i only have a lingering feeling that it was good initially

Nobara on an older pc(12400, 960 4gb) or Fedora? Most of my games aren't graphically amazing(Battle Brothers, Crystal Project), but I'd like to try Overwatch 2 just so I can connect with my brother. Would it take long to start with Fedora and make it similar to Nobara's settings?

>>107779748
Legend, thanks! I understand what I did wrong earlier.

>>107780890
>Russian spyware
No thanks

>>107780307
Yes. Badly because zram does some weird block layer kludgery. zswap can function as better zram, but everyone is used to zram, and they're identical for the purpose of compressing <=1/2 of system memory on an infrequent basis. Which is all most people use it for.

should i disable baloo?

>>107781032
>2022 cpu
>2015 gpu
eh?

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>>107769836
>Germany restored

>>107781710
VGH...

I know here we're chuds who hate AI, and to a certain extent I do too, but I think AI is lowering the entry barrier for Linux considerably.
In the past few months I was able to easily solve my issues with Linux by simply asking Gemini or ChatGPT, no reading wiki, documentation or old forums involved. And the level of hallucinations decreased drastically when compared to a year ago for instance. I'd say Gemini is slightly more accurate overall, but there are some cases where it fumbles a bit and GPT takes the lead.

The age of Linux might be finally upon us and AI might be playing a big part in it.
Still, I do like human input sometimes, that's why I still come here sometimes to ask questions, so you faggots can call me nigger.

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How the fuck do I export a Plasma global theme?
>just use konsave
That's not what konsave does; konsave does not create a global theme with a .js file under

/plasma/look-and-feel/MY-THEME/contents/layouts/

. I just want to export my current configuration in a way that can be swapped out in Plasma Settings.

>>107782581
>Step 1. Install plasma-sdk
>Step 2. Launch Plasma Global Theme Explorer (the executable is lookandfeelexplorer)
>Step 3. Click on the hamburger menu and click "New Theme..."
>Step 4. Fill out all the fields and hit OK
This will create a global theme based on your Plasma configuration under ~/.local/share/plasma/look-and-feel/ which you may swap out in Plasma Settings or share to other people.

>>107782352
Don't put /too much/ faith in it. I can't recall the details, but a few weeks ago I had to do a re-install thanks to listening to "AI" and getting my system borked beyond my willingness to type all the shit into a phone it would take to solve it any other way (had already made a few attempts and was getting nowhere). I do hate it though, no matter how "helpful" it can be.

>>107782929
You don't have to type anything, retard. Just use the in app "+x select camera and take a photo.

>>107778545
giga based. I have been running slack for a few years and it games and runs faster and smoother than my laptop fagdora with k(uck)de set up.

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>>107783125
I don't install MUH APPS. I access GTP or Claude through Duck.ai via Firefox and no amount of "muh helpful" makes installing jew apps on my device worth it.

I HATE THE ANTICHIST
FUCK "AI"

>>107782929
Of course. Hallucinations and misinterpretations are still a thing. One of the custom parameters I use for these bots is: if you're not sure of something, do not waste my time in wild goose chases and tell me it is not possible. I noticed this lowers hallucination incidents a bit.

But even in the case you don't trust AI enough to execute any of the commands it suggests, it's gotten pretty decent at at least steering you in the right direction to solve the problem. At least that's what my experience with it has been recently.

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>>107783208
Well, the way I solved it was just returning to Debian, the UNIVERSAL OPERATING SYSTEM, and no longer needing to concern myself with problems.

Truly
SIMPLE
AS

Will we ever get something like nixOS or Guix but actually useful?

hello lads, a new linux convert here (mint)
some games I'm playing have in-game videos that don't play, I'm guessing mint by default doesn't include the necessary codecs
is there a common pack I should be downloading or something to resolve this? this whole situation is giving me flashbacks to downloading the combined community codec pack to watch anime 15 years ago

>>107783346
nixOS is a meme. It's pushed hard by YooToobers chasing views and like via the ole
>Guy guys guys!!! Look how smart I am for installing this meme distro!

>>107783349
>I'm guessing mint by default doesn't include the necessary codecs
Have you installed

mint-meta-codecs

?

Anyway I bet you will ditch Mint sooner or later because it's a meme distro recommended by people who don't actually use it but remember seeing it get recommended to newbs 10 years ago. For anyone who insists Mint is good for newbs, call me when Mint lets you right click a hard drive in the file explorer.

>>107783208
>Hallucinations and misinterpretations are still a thing
everything in LLM's output is a "hallucination"
any factual correctness is a coincidence and reflects factual correctness of the training data and not LLM's "abilities"

>>107783349
You also need proton-ge. It includes codecs that are not in the default proton.

do you recommend to install the kde-utilities-meta and kde-system-meta or its better to install packages individually?

>>107783589
ok kid

>>107783589
Well, "its" ability to properly select from "its" training data is crucial, too. Two "AI"s can train on the same factual data but one have more poor selection and assembling of output than the other.

>>107783653
>lookup whats included
>make an informed choice
Nah install it anyway what are a few MB more these days. Its not that they come with background processes unlike on some other OS.

>>107783346
Silverblue, coreOS, microOS all have the benefits of immutability with none of the declarative autism of nix

>>107783589
>acktually *arguing semantics for the sake of arguing*
Alright, little bro.

>>107769901
just use whichever chatbot of your choice to help get it setup
im using arch right now with the help of archinstall and gemini
if it weren't for gemini, id be on mint right now, but llm's just make troubleshooting 30x easier

>>107783645
This is not true in no shape or form.

>>107782352
This is actually a very bad idea, especially when you're not familiar with the topic. This is exactly how people create systems that are impossible to troubleshoot. It might work with Windows but on Linux when you input a command it just runs no questions asked. There is nothing wrong with reading arch or gentoo wiki and manpages, it's how you learn how stuff actually works.

>>107783847
Well you caught me on a technicality.
Here is your (You).

>GE-Proton does include some extras to get videos in a bunch of specific games working.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/guides/view/why-some-games-on-linux-steamos-steam-deck-have-broken-videos-and-what-you-can-do/

>>107783346
Fedora's Atomic distros have existed for a decade now. Universal Blue project made Linux usable to both normies and advanced users and basically "solved" desktop Linux.

>>107783720
Nobody is using nix or guix for the immutability.
>benefits of immutability
There are none, its a forced meme.

>>107784366
Linux was usable to normies before the atomic distro meme existed.

>>107784381
>>107784395
>There are none, its a forced meme.
>atomic is a meme
Tell that to Android, the most successful Linux distro which is actually used by normies.

>>107784401
Android is not a linux distro.
Android is successful because its pre-installed on every phone and tablet and theres no alternative os you can install on those devices due to the hardware being locked down
>he wants linux to be like android
No, fuck off.

>>107784381
>There are none.
There are tons of benefits if you value your time.

>>107784475
Linux users generally do not value their time or don't care about productivity either.

>>107784366
So what is the server equivalent? It seems like Ubuntu, Debian and the various RHEL clones dominate there still

>>107784366
I started using GNU PLUS LINUX within days of getting my very first computer without any prior computer knowledge at all in 2001. The distro I used for the first few years didn't even have a DE, it used IceWM and was perfectly usable by someone like me who didn't even know what any of that was.

I use punch cards to program and get by just fine. Never improve anything, ever! For any reason!

>>107784475
If you valued your time you would use a regular distro instead of being stuck on an immutable distro that constantly breaks and creates problems that don't happen on normal distros.

>>107784496
There's nothing stopping anyone from using nix or guix as a server os. Doesn't it have its own container system?

>>107784401
Android's use case is creating one OS image for one device which ships in the millions. Where the user isn't nominally allowed to alter the base system. This is a good situation for atomic deployment. Millions of individual users, who expect to be able to change whatever they want, deploying your OS on random devices is an insanely stupid situation to use atomic deployment.

>>107784577
Fedora 43 KDE broke for me the moment I rebooted it. Kinoite just werks

>>107784621
>Fedora 43 KDE
Works on my machine

>>107783677
>to properly select from
it doesnt select anything
you are implying that a NN that was designed to predict next word in a sentence is capable of logical reasoning which it isnt
>Two "AI"s can train on the same factual data but one have more poor selection and assembling of output than the other
you shuffle training methods around until the output is satisfactory according to your criteria
the NN just takes input and produces output
it doesnt "decide" anything, YOU do
>>107783738
>"semantics" arent important
god i fucking HATE you midwit niggers
not to be uncivil ITT or anything
in this very fucking thread you can see examples if what happens when people believe that an LLM output has anything to do with reality

also thats not what semantics mean, dipshit

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>>107784649
>it doesnt select anything
KEK
Holy fuck. YES, it damn sure fucking well does, RETARD. You don't give it a query and get totally random results. It looks at your query and then SELECTS from its total sea of data to ASSEMBLE its response output.

You have ZERO business calling that other anon or anyone else a nigger or a dipshit, you dipshit nigger.

>>107778552
>I'd try installing the nvidia drivers in the terminal.
Do you mean downloading the driver from Nvidia's website and using that, or do you mean running the same command the driver manager is running but running myself in a terminal? If the latter, is it literally as simple as 'sudo apt-get install <correct driver>'?

>>107784496
Server equivalent of what?
An immutable distro? There doesn't need to be one. The server equivalency of immutability is already solved with tools like Docker. You don't need your OS to be immutable because your entire build and deploy system is immutable. You only care about your service/application having a reproducible build.

An atomic distro? Again, there doesn't need to be one. Most servers aren't continuously updating while running. They're re-deployed with a clean and up-to-date OS image using Kubernetes, AWS or Azure, then the server software you need is installed onto that clean image.
Even if you are continuously applying system updates on your server, it doesn't really need atomic updates. In case something goes wrong manual intervention can be done by the system administrator or the developer group assigned to maintain the system/project. An average person's computer isn't maintained by a group of engineers or anyone at all. Your average tech-illiterate just wants his/her apps to work and the OS not to shit itself in less than 5 years.

>>107784618
Atomic just means the update system doesn't allow partial/broken system updates. That's something that benefits any system or OS, not just smartphones. And unstable system updates are a common issue on Linux desktops.
>individual users, who expect to be able to change whatever they want
Well then it's good that Fedora's Atomic distros don't restrict you from doing anything at all. Most parts of the system support overrides and it gives you a package manager just like a "normal" distro would. Exceptions which require deeper knowledge exists, but they're edge cases which only matter to the minority of skilled or niche users.

>>107784577
>immutable
>breaks
>creates problems
>t. never used an immutable distro
I've never had a Silverblue, Kinoite or Bazzite system break. Meanwhile "normal" distros (Ubuntu, Mint, Manjaro) broke really often.
t. used Linux since 2014

>>107784643
They're using legacy NVIDIA hardware. Something is pretty much guaranteed to always break.
I used to have a 960 just like them and it was what pushed me over the edge to AMD the moment they became viable.

>>107784649
actually ive changed my mind
it is partially about semantics and not "semantics"
im just used to you faggots always misusing terminology
>>107784726
>my heckin' glorified NN powered autocorrect acshually consciously analyses all the possible choices for output and makes a choice based on logic, reason and previous experience of real life world
tell me retard (not to be uncivil or anything)
when you ask your chatgeepeetees and what not about what color is the sky
and it answers you that its blue
does it do it because most of the text out here says its blue OR because it fucking SEEN it with its own EYES or read about it in a book and UNDERSTOOD the physical processes behind rayleigh scattering using circuits in its brain that are responsible for LOGIC?

>>107784888
>doesn't allow partial/broken system updates
Normal dnf doesn't allow broken updates either. There's no good reason for disallowing partial updates. This is not a niche case.

>>107784929
>consciously
AND RIGHT THERE is where you have jumped the tracks from anything at least /I/ have previously said. In fact /I/ even put "AI" and "it" in quotations. But "IT" is essentially a PROGRAM that is PROGRAMMED to SELECT, among various other things which "it" is programmed to do.

>>107784888
I've seen multiple anons in these threads have M$ bazzite and other immutable systems break on them, not to mention that one popular youtuber who installed M$ bazzite ended up having it break on them

>>107784726
This is why "AI" is so fucking dangerous. People think that just because something sounds like it knows what it's talking about, that it actually does. I know actual *humans* who can talk about shit they know very little about and others can't tell. If a known thinking, sentient being can bullshit people on purpose, imagine what something that doesn't know it exists let alone know what it's being asked can do, especially when it's been trained on the cumulative stupidity and bullshit that the human race has spent decades frantically spewing onto the internet as fast as we possibly can, and hundreds of years of stupidity and bullshit we've been spewing into books and movies before that.

When someone creates an "AI" that develops what looks like self awareness and reasoning and so forth completely free of anything humans have already created, we can start talking about the possibility that it's capable of logical though or reasoning or anything other than a language simulator designed to spit out shit that *sounds* like language but doesn't even necessarily need to be.

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>we reached a point where you can easily run a Windows program on pure Wayland but for a native linux program (X11) it's impossible, example: aseprite

>>107785145
>People think that just because something sounds like it knows what it's talking about, that it actually does.
Indeed, and in fact it is programmed to project confidence even when it knows it doesn't know. I figure ultimately the entire thing will wind up being a massive appeal to authority con that's essentially mostly pre-programmed with allowed responses.

>>107785075
sure, we have finally arrived at why semantics are important
it "selects" the same way how a machine at a factory selects shit walnuts from non-shit ones or whatever the fuck
but it doesnt "select" the same way a conscious being does

but then if we understand all that why do we keep using the term "hallucinations" is beyond me, since due to everything that has been said earlier ---everything--- that these models output is a "hallucination"
>>107785145
>When someone creates an "AI" that develops what looks like self awareness and reasoning
when that happens i suggest 9mm to the dome for an easy way out

>>107785185
They need something like WINE but for running x11 on wayland without needing xwayland

>>107785185
>>107785265

you can run wayland session inside X11

>>107785185
Wayland can't run DesktopGoose while X11 can. Checkmate.

>>107785290
Nobodys talking about running wayland inside x11

>>107785212
OK, I'm pretty well aligned with how you're putting it there, and that walnut analogy is breddy excellent. The semantics are indeed crucial, but "hallucinations" /can/ be a decent enough /analogy/ of /convenience/ in describing things as we "experience" them as "users" (though /we/ are the ones being used). The whole thing is extremely /dangerous/, but essentially everything is doomed regardless!

>>107784889
I also had a 960 and never an issue with it (besides lack of vram), went amd after it though for various reasons.

>>107785351
well ive decided that we are

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>>107784819
>>107778552
>>107778381
apt infoms me that nvidia-driver-470 cant be installed because it depends on nvidia-dkms-470 and while that package is installed, it is not configured...

This is what happens when I manually try to reinstall nvidia-dkms-470

>>107785265
There's nothing stopping you from running a windowed X server.

>>107785398
>but "hallucinations" /can/ be a decent enough /analogy/ of /convenience/ in describing things as we "experience" them as "users"
i disagree
hallucination is when a person perceives something that isnt there, a.k.a perceives reality "incorrectly"
but LLM's arent even capable of "perceiving" reality "correctly" in the first place, from their "perspective" there is no difference between what we consider correct output and incorrect one
it creates a notion that LLM's are supposed to be able to distinguish bullshit from non bullshit and that if just tinker with them enough they will be able to do that reliably
when in reality there is no bullshit detecting circuit inside, there is just "whatever the fuck" generating circuit

I don't care man I will continue using AI to help me troubleshoot linux problems
seethe and dilate

>>107785523
What happens if you run

 sudo apt --fix-broken install

?

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>>107785615
Basically the same thing. I'm gonna try switching back to the open driver and manually install the nvidia driver from the terminal and see if that makes any difference

>>107785532
Well to me the "AI hallucinations" are often where things get referenced that do not exist, rather than just mistakes. "They" will cite books which do not exist at all. There are two distinct possibilities in such cases: 1) they are just making shit up, in the most common sense of "just making shit up", or 2) they are somehow abstractly mixing things from the sea of data and "think" it actually does exist, but it was just "bad parsing".

It is impossible to know which of those things is most often the case without having direct access to all the code involved and being able to understand that code with great precision, but as I mentioned, I suspect the whole thing is /ultimately/ being built into a GRAND appeal to authority con scheme, essentially proclaiming ARTIFICIAL GOD. It's still very early days yet and pretty far from that claim being made by more than the scattered susceptible schiz, but it's actively being worked toward.

>>107785592
It sounds like you expect to have perpetual "linux problems". Why don't you get the "AI" to tell you what all you need to just go ahead and do to no longer have "linux problems"?

>>107785687
>>107785615
>>107778552
This is a log that it refers me to by the way.
https://pastebin.com/c4wmJQ3v

I also tried sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-460 and even nvidia-dkms-460 but both also installed the 470 version and in the dkms packages both had the same problem.

>>107785727
>It is impossible to know which of those things is most often the case without having direct access to all the code involved and being able to understand that code with great precision
there is no conventional code to speak of, there is just simulated neurons "connected" with each other during training
this is why it just "makes shit up" (in a non common sense, its not purposefully lying), people are "designed" for rational though to an extend while LLM's are just blank NN's which got some data "shoved" into them
anything interesting that is going on is just an emerging property of data and training methods since there is no complex, predesigned circuitry going on inside

>>107784889
>They're using legacy NVIDIA hardware
Wrong, it’s a laptop with simple integrated Intel graphics and F43 KDE still threw a shitfit

>>107785528
XWayland even has libdecor support to display a decorated window that you can drag and resize about. You can run Openbox or whatever inside of it and it'll behave identical to an X11 session only in its own window.

>>107785410
You obviously never tried to use Wayland with it then. Bugs I had with it only recently got fixed the past few years. The drivers are still bad today but it was even worse back then.
I replaced it with a 5700 XT the first chance I got.

>>107769049
>2000
>Still works actively on Linux
>Linux still Is a piece of shit
Fucking lmao

>>107786238
somehow linux works for 3rd world rice farmers but not for (You)

>>107786238
You have to compare it to every other kernel that is also a piece of shit only Linux is less of a piece of shit so it wins over anyway.

There's a reason every electronics device of any significance whatsoever runs Linux (except when a realtime operating system is needed for critical systems)

>>107786250
>shitting on the street works for third worlders but not for you
This isn’t the brag you think it is.

it would be kewl if someone reports this one as well >>107786262 , it doesnt let me do two in a row

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>>107786238
The most backwards thing about this is that in the end it's going to end up better not because he actually makes Linux work proper for normies, but because jeets will make Windows and Mac so unusable that even Linux is more preferable. Literally no one wins.

>>107786262
>>107786262
>a 70 IQ indian in Hyderabad can make some rupees with Ubuntu on his Stinkpad
>anon can't run a terminal command
It's a (You) problem.

Is there any real reason fedora has a "workstation" and "KDE desktop" build instead of just one distribution that lets you pick during the install? Is there something major preventing me from downloading workstation and just typing dnf install KDE (or whatever command installs all modules of KDE) and clicking the lil gear icon and launching with KDE? or vice versa? I don't really understand it's not super clear.

>>107786332
im just trying to leverage whatever i can for you to go away
since i cant possibly convey to you how much of a massive nigger you are for going into a thread that specifically asks of you to be more or less civiland and posting 23 iq sharty lolcow ragebait
you simply cant comprehend why breaking social contract is bad so what the fuck am i supposed to do about it?

>>107786386
They make multiple live spins so you can try them out. Yes, they could probably make a universal installer that asks what desktop you want to install if they could be bothered to do that. This is the approach Debian and OpenSUSE (I think?) take.

>>107786386
Historically, GNOME was the only main "edition" and KDE was a "Spin", but now they are treating KDE as a main edition too. They also started revamping the Anaconda installer so we may or may not have it all on the installar on the future

>>107786386
Running multiple DEs is generally not recommended for multiple reasons, but the main reason why there's 2 installers is because it allows the iso to be smaller and it makes it easier to maintain them separately.
Some distros do have a DE selection during the install. For example CachyOS comes with KDE by default, but during the install process (assuming your connected to the internet) you're given the option to swap it for whatever you want. Debian does the same but they default to GNOME iirc.

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>>107786386
i used fedora everything net installer. Didn't want to have workstation or kde when doing fastfetch

to the anon that helped me with my wifi disconnecting after waking from sleep, you saved my ass bro. i love you >>107765207
I don't know why the fix did not work on Fedora, likely because the .conf for modprode.d wasn't present in Fedora. But since it was on Mint's, the fix worked.

>>107774991
https://github.com/ravachol/kew

>>107786230
well, yes, not trying it was the obvious choice with nvidia back then. It's one of the reasons I got an amd now.

>>107769049
does 4chan still wordfilter 'ponies' to 'steve jobs'?

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it has been 0 days since i last tried wayland and couldn't get basic shit to just work (this time it was gnome asking for muh permission to share m+kb with deskflow)

>>107787620
i think it still wordfilters basedstemd to basedstemd

>>107787620
ponies

>>107786485
>Running multiple DEs is generally not recommended for multiple reasons
How come? I've seen multiple DE support built into a lot of startup managers

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>>107780380
>try a VPN
>it works
>mfw debian wiki is region blocking me

>>107770283
What reasons are there to use any frontend over plain nftables?
>>107769901
Arch install wiki is shit and the installation is completely manual so you could install Arch as EndeavourOS.
Although manual neckbeard Linux installation is the same regardless the distro so it's worth learning.

Looking for a manga reading program. I'm used to Honeyview but that doesn't work right on Zorin

>>107789313
Someone in your country's IP range was probably DDoSing it or something so much that they just rangebanned the whole country

>>107772830
NTA but I'm literally in the middle of setting up arch for the first time. Sell me on btfs snapshots vs just yoloing it with ext4. I have never needed to roll a device back to a snapshot (I have never had snapshots).

>>107790030
idk, I also have never had to use them, so ext4 would not have been a problem for me either. I do think it offers some peace of mind especially for arch, since updates can't break you (unless there's a btrfs kernel bug I guess). btrfs has some nice features like compression and reflinks. But I don't like having to remember to set chattr +C on a bunch of stuff.
/shrug

>>107772769
do a btrfs scrub to check for corrupted files
you are using btrfs right?

What ia good pdf software for Linux? Something like Foxit that lets me fill forms and sign documents? I have tried Libre Draw but it looks like ass.

>>107790030
it's a safety net if shit goes south

>>107790265
Firefox has a PDF editing interface these days which lets you add text/sign documents and such.

I need help understanding how to run exe utilities in wine. As I understand, anything command line is run through winecmd rather than doing Windows cmd stuff, so it throws an unknown command error for a ton of stuff, breaking most scripts and... executable arguments. I've tried running .bat files with "foo.exe arg1 arg2" to no success, same goes for adding the .exe in Lutris and configuring arguments there. I seem to lately be mostly interested in games that need tinkering to work right even in Windows and that shit cascading into linux is proving to be a real pain in the ass.

>>107790828
Wait, does wine really not support the feature set of... cmd? In a way that breaks real scripts? That's surprising, I would figure that DOS-era shit is long mastered by now. Or is it just missing various .exes that it expects to be in the path?

>>107790870
That's my understanding, yeah. It's only a very limited set that has been implemented. Not even conditionals and whatnot. I guess the expectation is that people would write bash scripts, which is real fuckin' antiquated with how much wine is being used for now and those things relying on windows native support communities.

>>107790926
That's really weird. cmd is obtuse but it seems like it'd be really simple to implement compared to everything in win32 and it's entirely feature frozen afaik. I could see someone slightly more autistic than I am doing it for fun. There's probably an open source implementation somewhere for freedos or something too.
I mean I know there isn't that many batch scripts these days but come on, any project that can implement d3d12 well enough to run ue5slop should be able to re-implement cmd.exe in its sleep.

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>>107769049
I'm trying to clone some qcow2 VMs and then convert the qcow2 files to .img files. I know it's possible to convert qcow2 <-> .img, but I'm not sure how I'd handle this in the VM's XML file itself. Do you just edit the driver name from

<driver name='qemu' type='qcow2'/>

to

<driver name='qemu' type='raw' discard='unmap'/>

after converting to .img, or would I have to do something else?

>>107790828
>I've tried running .bat files with "foo.exe arg1 arg2" to no success
Your wine install is broken, you're invoking it incorrectly, or you're not providing whatever specific execution environment your program expects. Just `wine cmd` to bring up a prompt or `wine foo.bat` should be all you need.

wine cmd isn't 100% equivalent, but basic things like environment variables and arguments work.

I tried to swap de to cosmic and everything was shit. How do I swap from gnome to cosmic on arch? It messed up my audio devices last time as well as pretty much everything else it was a mess. I used to use pop os and loves the de it was a custom gnome then I think and cosmic I tried in beta and is pretty good but I only use arch now.

>>107778800
>>107775531
>>107778936
Try asking normally next time instead of Twitter speak.
As for your issue, it could be bad memory.
Check your RAM.
I had the same issue before but mine was in windows.
Would freeze when running Firefox of all things.

>>107775531
I suspect nanonigs.

why does top, neofetch, and gkrellm all show different memory usage?

What's the deal with Slackware? Why don't they just include flatpak in the install and be done with it? Do they realize no one uses it because people don't have time to fuck around with dependencies when every other distro on the planet has evolved to handle it?
I get that it was all the rage back in the 90s, but now it just feels like a high school kids project.
Complete shit.

>>107791873
If you intentionally use an intentionally obtuse distro, you will get what you asked for.

>>107791897
I use Fedora as a daily. I only like to mess around with other distros either through a VM or an external SSD.
Gentoo was fun. Slackware is just doghit. Looking forward to messing with LFS just for the hell of it.

>>107791873
>i don't understand slackware
ok

>>107789437
I use Mcomix. It's kind of ugly but you get used to it. Otherwise there are some more new school ones that look more modern and have more features, like Hakuneko or Komikku. I chose Mcomix because it was the closest to old school Honeyview. It's definitely barebones though,

>>107790926
>>107790870
You are not using wine in proper way.
Of course you can run fucking bat files and whatever else you want.

>>107791956
it's dogshit. it's literally some kids high school project now. poorly maintained. poorly updated. poorly supported.
why would you want to bother with that kind of dogshit.
if you want full control and customization, you go Gentoo.
If you want a full on challenge, you go LFS.
If you want some "difficulty" to force you to learn, you go Arch.
If you want dogshit, you go Slackware.

do you trust the chaotic-aur repository?

Given the amount of retards in this thread seems like most people should not be using linux or even windows at this point. AI will only make things worse but this will be more apparent in ~5 or so years from now. Game console or a phone is a more reliable device to these people.
Protip: read the fucking manual, retards

>>107792001
No one's had anything bad to say about them, so they seem fine.

>>107792031
i just dont want to compile some packages that i want to use from the AUR
it would take too long on my shit laptop

>>107792052
The whole point of it is that they compile the packages first on their end then turn them into binaries for you to install from their repo. It's a useful service.

>>107792010
Slackware isn't hard.
>Easy to install
>Easy to set up
>Easy to use
Yet reatrds act like it some stupid ass badge of honor to waste 4 hours of your day trying to figure out what dependencies an app needs so you can fucking use it.
That's not "learning" anything. That's applying "skills" to anything. That's not "toubleshooting" anything.
It's literally nothing but you chasing down broken links to wget from and googling "what libraries does this fucking app need?"
Slackware provides ZERO educational value. ZERO skill development value. It's a 30 year old piece of shit that should have died 2 decades ago when Red Hat got into the rpm business.

>>107791177
you can just try and see what happens
>>107792200
anon for the people who have never chased down dependencies this IS a learning experience
its like installing arch
yes there is nothing hard about it and its in some contexts just pointlessly tedious but if you are doing something like that for the first time you can learn quite a lot
in fact id go as far as to recommend trying to install arch in a VM or on bare metal to the new people just for the educational purposes alone

Steve Jobs was a zionist satanic motherfucker
He will be remembered like the shit he was

>>107792274
i hope on his death bed he was regretting being a massive retard that refused treatment in favor of drinking juice
i hope he was in agonizing pain

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>>107787797
i fixed your image bro

if i use -Rns to remove a package it will also remove dependencies that are optional for other packages
how can i make it so that it doesnt do that?

Hey /fglt/
I know Bazzite gets shit talked a lot, but did anyone here come across any actual issues with the distro or is it just "it sucks because atomic"?

>>107792772
it shouldn't remove packages that either either dependencies for other applications (hard deps, not optional ones) or you've installed them manually (explicitly installed).
if an optional package for something else was installed as a non-optional dependency for something you're removing, then said dependency will be removed, as optional dependencies aren't considered dependencies in this context, optional deps are just ones that are listed for user convenience

>>107792870
It being atomic is the exact reason it doesn't suck, no more broken updates like on non-atomic distros.
What sucks is having to reboot when you install packages with rpm-ostree or when you install a system update. dnf, pacman and apt modify your system live because the system is non-atomic, so unless you're installing drivers or a new kernel version there's no need to reboot. But then again, Android and iOS are the same as Bazzite when it comes to system updates and clearly nobody cares.

I've personally used it since the release of Bazzite 41 and I had no issues whatsoever. Nobody I know irl has issues with it.

>>107791544
Free vs reserved vs available

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STILL stuck on 6.12 .... Never seen gentoo kernel being stuck on a version this long.

>>107792001
As much as I trust AUR, meaning I don't

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>>107793129
Do you understand how the stabilisation process works?
They only stabilise the LTS kernels marked "longterm" on https://kernel.org

There's nothing stopping you from adding an entry to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords like this though:

# mark all kernels less than 6.19 for installation
<sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin-6.19.0 ~*

>>107769449
I would recommend CachyOS instead if you are into gaming.
t.another windows refugee

>>107793029
could you elaborate? i'm new to linux and i thought gkrellm would be a cool way to monitor my system's resources but i'm confused on why it doesn't match top or neofetch (also is neofetch reliable or is it just pretty?)

>>107791544
Different methods of accounting. Use ps_mem if you want something that will track usage accurately.
https://github.com/pixelb/ps_mem

>>107793255
>Do you understand how the stabilisation process works?
Yes? But I only use stable packages.

>>107793352
Then you should understand why it is pegged at 6.12. That's not going to change. If you want it now then you can get it through package.accept_keywords.

>>107793359
I see, I missed that on kernel.org last time I checked. I'll try to set it to 6.18.3

>>107793374
If you set it like >>107793255 then you'll be able to install any 6.18 version. If you just always want the latest kernel then you can not specify the version and do:

sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin ~*

>>107793388
>>107793374
You'll probably also have to add keywords for virtual/dist-kernel too e.g:

<virtual/dist-kernel-6.19.0 ~*

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>>107793388
>>107793410
Seems to work, cheers.

>>107792951
I'm less bothered about updates and more about it being a little bit more restrictive. If I find a random convenient application, usually I find a way to easily install it on an arch based distro (because there's an AUR for literally fucking everything) whereas here I don't know if it would throw a fit.
I'm thankful at least there's a lot of applications that have either an appimage or a flatpak available in any case.

>>107793335
okay i'll give it a look, thanks!

>>107793309
yeah i just wanted to see if neofetch's memory usage agreed with top or gkrellm and it didn't match either of them, my bad

>>107793431
Just booted into 6.18.3 and my mouse feels weird, damn. I guess it has some issues with my hardware.... Mouse is like lagging behind sometimes.

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>>107769049
why is it red?

>>107793473
what am i looking at?

>>107793470
Yeah damn, I'm noticing lagg in everything I do. Moving the windows, browsing the web (librewolf), like every action has a random delay sometimes. Does not happen on 6.12..........

>>107793434
It's not really restrictive compared to other distros. You can always use rpm-ostree to install packages from Fedora's repo. You'll just have to reboot when you do so because of the way A/B partitions work.
>AUR
I mean, that's only available to Arch and Arch-based distros.
Technically you can always use Distrobox to install packages from other distros and I assume if you pull Arch into it it will let you use AUR. Distrobox is pretty much like WINE just for Linux-on-Linux and DistroShelf comes pre-installed on Bazzite.

>>107793630
Yeah I might be overthinking it. I guess I should give it a shot.

>>107793620
Anyone else experiencing this? I cannot find any bug reports on search engines.