What are the chances of this being good?
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>>107770984What are the chances of Win12 being released at all? Looks like it's over, even normies have defected.
>>107771011fpbp/thread
>>107770984there will be no windows 12. It'll be WIndows Copilot
>>107771011/thread>>107770984obviously microslop will add even more telemetry and slop to windows, will be vibe coded and tested directly on users. maybe will require constant internet connection with monthly subscription and one will need to upgrade HW to even launch that pile of shit written in react native
>>107770984>>107771011>0%Agentic os. 11 is already a buggy mess. If you think about it, they implemented all their shit AI Spyware features with every update. 11 is a beta for 12. Maby they will add lightweight licenses as a subscription model.10 IoT LTSC is the last Windows.
>>107770984Its gonna be a subscription based could os that will display a 5min ad every time you turn on "your" pc
ZERO ZILCH NADA NOUGHTpic related will be win12's codebase
>>107770984Absolute ZERO.
>>107770984100% because they're just going to make Windows 11 stop working and what's Timmy gonna do then? - migrate to Linux? LOL.
>>107771233>so retarded he thinks "good" means "you have no choice but to use it"Typical braindead winfag
>>107770984No chance. It's hard to imagine it even worse than Windows 11 but I trust Microsoft's mentally retarded baboons they call "devs" to achieve this.
>>107770984Currysoft AdvertOS is DOA.
>>107771011ThisMicrosoft no longer care about user experience, it's all about shareholder.
They are getting rid of all local account loopholes, expect rufus to be killed next.
>>107771517>expect rufus to be killed next.would be funny if that's the way they try to stop people from movingyou'd have to jailbreak your own pc like it's a console
>>107771233This would be trivially hacked. So trivial even normalfags for the most part would fix it or have someone else fix it.
it LITERALLY cannot be worse than win11
>>107771552all the c and c++ code is getting buttraped by the trifecta of ai/rust/indians by 2030it will get worse
>>107771552You are very young if you still believe this.It can always get worse. They have ways.
I just recently installed Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC on my old desktop for like, I don't know, if I ever need Windows again. I turned off all the trash and it's quite usuable. but fuck me, it's SLOW and LAGGY. Windows 12 will hopefully be Microsofts end desu-zan
>>107770984It's 100% vibe coded by AI and jeets as opposed to just mostly vibe coded by AI and jeets like windows 11.
>>107771227haven't been following because it's banal, but is the whole 'rust safe' thing supposed to be some kind of safety net for poorly written code?like, good code will work, and if it's shit code then C isn't too friendly, but rust loves shit code and nothing can go too wrong, so the point of this endeavour is so they can hire lower skilled (and cheaper) developers to make their products?
>>107770984windows was always bad
>>107770984>>107771011the worse it is the betterforce Linux adoption = better driver and software support
>>107771552It will be coded by AI, you can get worse than win11
>>107771552Just wait until they replace the file manager with Copilot
>>107770984depends on who is actually going to dictate the direction.
win 2000 = badXP = goodvista = badwin 7 = goodwin 8 = badwin 10 = goodwin 11 = badtherefore win 12 = ....?
>>107772647exactly. patriots are in control.
>>107772647bad
>>107772647When did you last use XP? It being good is a delusional nostalgia meme.There never was a good windows. The levels of hot fucking garbage have just gone so much higher than anyone other that silicon valley psychos could imagine that people long for the old garbage.Send someone to a gulag and they'll long for the regular prison.
>>107770984It's actually crazy to think I'll still be using windows 7 when this piece of shit comes out.
windows 11 release was 5 years ago
>>107772647>>win 10 = goodStill never true no matter how many times you repeat this. 10 was the indian-coded era of windows, it is forever garbage.>you will now mention IOT LTSC in a desperate attempt to shill
>>107772647>therefore win 12 = ....?All Indian
>>107771011fpbp /thread>inb4 NOOOOO SAAAR REDEEM THE DOWNGRADE VERY GOOD 99% COPILOT CODED IN REACT SAAAAAAAAAAR
>>107770984lol>>107771011fpbp
>>107772647>dos 3.3 = good>dos 4.0 = bad>dos 5.0 = good>dos 6.x = good>win 1.0 = bad>win 2.0 = good>win 3.1 = good>win 95 = good>win 98 = good>win me = bad>win 2000 = good>XP = good>vista = bad>win 7 = good>win 8 = bad>win 8.1 = bad but at least not as awful as 8>win 10 = bad but at least it's not as awful as 8>win 11 = just plain bad>>therefore win 12 = ....?Bad, they used to release mostly good products, but 7 is the last version of windows that I could call good
>>107770984You meant Copilot OS 12? They just renamed Office to Microsoft 365 Copilot (check office.com)
>>107770984the whole ui will be real time ai generated.there corpos, a free trillion dollar idea.
>>107770984LmaoIt's Copilot nowWindows as we know if finished
>>107772576Wait until you hear Copilot Linux is coming tooThey are already accepting AI commits in the kernel
>>107773174>missed windows NT3.1, 3.5 and 4.0garbage list
>>107773174Jesus christ, another human being that actually used these operating systems. I was starting to think its nothing but python scripts and children posting here.
>>107773174no saar you forgot 10 IOT LTSC is very good blessed by shiva!
>>107771227This actually makes sense.>>107772519With static analysis tools and other automated toolchains, it's almost impossible the write "shit code" anymore. MS's problems arise from poor test suite practices (and journalist hyperbole).
>>107773511Nah I'm a faker, the extent of my use of DOS was just playing the games that my dad had pirated, he's a fucking legendI didn't do anything else with a computer really until windows 3.1 was out I think, I only gave 4.0 a bad rating because dune didn't run on it for some reason I think, memory is a little hazy
>>107770984kekw, yeah, windows 12, sure buddy
>>107770984Always by two they come : the shitty OS and the good one.XP :goodVista : bad7 : good8 : bad10 : good11 : badSo we're due for :12 : good
>>107770984It's just going to be called copilot.
>>107771517They can't do that on corporate environments, just get a pro version and stop crying.
>>107773511Bold of you to assume a LLM could not come up with those shitty ranking.Those are not exactly novel and independant thoughts. Those discourse have been held on the internet for decade now.
>>107773986Enterprise.The 'Pro' version are as bad as the 'Family' ones.>>107771517You're an idiot and an unsufferable faggot, btw.
>>107770984Killing Windows off and making a SteamOS clone.
Windows Copilot.
>>107773174>win 98 = good
>>107772788nta but dual booting with IOT LTSC is the only option i have faggot. if my apollo twin, ableton, pro tools, and my decade+ collection of pirated vst's had proper support i would have already ditched it. >inb4 music trannyi work in audio professionally. if i was a music tranny i'd be making breakcore in bitwig
>>107770984they're going to follow the industry's retarded new naming convention and call it Windows 26 because big number good
>>107772788>no ads>no (((feature))) updates>no telemetry (assuming you have an IQ above room temperature)>no forced updates (assuming you have an IQ above room temperature)>stable>SAAAAAAAAAAAR DO NOT USE THE LTSC IT IS LE CURRYHere you go Rajeesh your "Worst failure at forcing a failed meme since dat boi" award.
>>107770984>xp - good>vista - bad>7 - good>8 - bad>10 - goodmaybe the patter will hold up, or the enshittification will finally become insurmountable
>>107771011Came here to post this.FPBP. /thread.Checked and keked.
>>107773963>>10777432610 was bad>>10777429510 was coded by jeets, good morning sirs
Windows 7 was the last good one, every single one since without exception has been made by nonwhites and represents a marked downgrade in quality from 7.
>>107770984>Windows have been getting worse and worse with each generation>"But what if it is good this time?"I got some NFT's to sell you, you seem like a smart man who would be interested in getting rich quick.
Anyone who think linux will win in next 5 years is delusional, look, they released windows 11 like 5 years ago, after 5 years linux desktop hasn't changed much, nobody cared to replace packages with universal installer for all platforms, nobody cared to deliver drivers, nobody cared about pushing terminal away from the end user. linux trannies give no shit, 5 years of windows 11 being a dumpster of fire and nobody cared it's always the same; oh howdy, you hate windows? me too, here is linux, huh? you have problems? well, then computer is not for you lol
>>107774516I'm just going to keep using windows 7. I'll buy hardware in the next few years to build a new windows 7 PC.
>>107774530maybe if you use browser only, this crap has nothing working on it, and 8.1 is much lighter and more optimized than your 7 crap
>>107774589Sure, you should keep using 8/10, you deserve it.
>>107770984GIVE ME WINDOWS 7 IN HALF THE CODE, AND I WILL PAY MONEY FOR IT
>>107771116>It'll be WIndows CopilotCopilot (formerly Windows Copilot (formerly Windows))
>>107771011I agree
>>107770984it will start being "good" as in not a buggy POS that breaks all the time when AI is "good".it will always be state-sponsored spyware. you'd have to be naive to think microsoft hasn't been in bed with the govt since at least 2001.
>>107772759so what do you think is a good OS?
>>107775124Microsoft is retarded in many many ways. But their ability to bungle naming things is uniquely bad. I don't think it'll be Windows Copilot. It'll be something super dumb like Windows: Copilot X 12, 26
>>107770984>SAAAR STOP CALLING THE AI SLOP!>entire workforce is akin to a jeet call centre>win 11 is a cluttered pile of dog scraps and scamwareIll stick with 10 and wait for a suitable replacement. Not sure why no other tech companies are going in on the os market.
>>107772647delulu, all this is fucking trash, there's not even a good basic program, all this shit is stuck in the 90s with a layer of paint on it.
>>107770984not my problem. i'll have a steam machine by then.
>>107773174every single dos was fine.every single pre-NT windows was trash.win2k was peak, it was all downhill from then on.(alright, 7 was okay-ish somehow).as a boomer who doesn't game anymore, windows doesn't have anything more to offer me. I will be switching to Linux on my next build.
>>107775602>Not sure why no other tech companies are going in on the os market.Too busy jerking off the cloud and AI at this point.
>>107771552it LITERALLY can, and it will be glorious
>>107770984i dont know if they can top how great windows 11 is
>>107770984>windows 10THE LAST WINDOWS!!>windows 11THE LAST WINDOWS!!>windows 12THE LAST WINDOWS!!
>>107770984lol
>>107770984As soon as Windows 10 stops being supported by vidya I'm moving to Linux. Thanks to Valve's heavy investment in Linux gaming for Steamdeck they already closed the gap on gaming performance, which was the only advantage Windows had if you aren't a corporation.I already run Mint on my laptop so I could get used to it and its been going pretty well so far.Windows is fucking dead.
>>107775703>as a boomer who doesn't game anymore, windows doesn't have anything more to offer me. I will be switching to Linux on my next build.yeah.
>>107771011FPBP THREAD OVER
>>107776711maybe that is the play in the future. switch to consoles again and just use some normie preconfigured linux distro & DE with no systemd to browse the net since thats all its capable of
>>107776735probably gonna be honestly. still looking at the steam machine here. people say it won't be cheap but no new computer is going to be cheap in the same time frame, either. corporate arch (steamos) might be the go. i've started fucking around with that linux kernel book in preparation. i haven't run a linux desktop in 20 years.
>>107770984It will either be an MacOS clone or a Specific version of MacOS that plays Xbox gamepass and Microsoft office.Microshaft has been so lustful over becoming Apple that they might as well just sell themselves to shit ass Apple instead of their shitty half measure of forcing their operating system to operate like an ad filled Mac.
>>107776762you could probably still play old windows games and use old windows software at least in vmware workstation, since those dont really need a graphics cardout of spite though i will buy old hardware and stick with win7 in future. open source software, the very concept of it is offensive to my senses
>>107776786based.
>>107770984Hopefully there is enough quality control to keep out all Indian contributions.
>>107772647The good/bad cycle is a retarded cope.Every version of windows is shit, and each newer version is shittier than the last.No exceptions.
>>107770984Government approved malware. Spy state cult will be on your ass if you're of any use.
>>107770984Windows 12 will be canceled in favor of WaaS (Windows as a Service). This is what Microslop has been preparing people for all along and likely why they have forced users to install with Microslop account. They are removing the last vestiges of the user operating system and transitioning to the "agentic" (read: not yours) operating system. Which will then further allow corporations to dictate to you, the owner of these devices, what you can and cannot do with the products you "own".
>>107770984Depends if shatya nutella is still jeetmaxxing out about le fucking agentic OS or not. Which is about as dumb as getting in a car and letting it drive you where it thinks you want to go instead of you telling it where to go. Not everything about AI is bad, but the way MS is trying to implement it objectively is. Reminds me a lot of windows 8 being some baby fisher price interface because they thought everyone would be using tablets. Both 11 and 8 have the same quagmire of executives trying to forcibly warp the entire product to serve a niche concept and not the entire ecosystem of customers. Yeah I'm sure businesses will just love it when copilot can be talked into sharing your fucking confidential information by malware promoting it to blab etc. And of course the richest of ironies is this is supposed to make it more competitive than other OSes but is making it so unwanted and uncompetitive some people are going all the way back to windows 7 now.
>>107777293Yeah that will be the year of the Linux desktop unironically. That and people will remember Mac exists again and if this keeps up they will have a chance to shout out to the normalfag masses "we agree, fuck windows, we won't do that" and get the random soccer moms and grandmas back that Microsoft considers a captive audience to exploit.
>>107771011This unless it releases in like 10 years when the landscape is significantly different. But then it's hard to estimate.
>>107771011>>107771011>>107771011
>>107770984By the time it arrives, you'll have replaced your dumpster-dived Sandy Vag.Microsoft will also make some slight changes to the taskbar.So yeah, you rarted NPCs will love it to bits, just like you did last time.
>>107770984I would guess its going to continue the trend of 10->11. More copilot, more adverts, more metrics, more jeet, more slop code. The ironic thing is I am using AI more and more to do shit rather than searching the web, but I don't want to use copilot for this. I wouldn't trust it to sit the right way on a toilet.
>>107778648Yeah as was said earlier it is not "AI bad" it's "copepilot bad" and the fact MS is shitting all over its own legacy inserting it into its own quarter-century+ established ecosystem with nobody asking for or wanting it. Yeah guys we need a fucking AI enabled Notepad seriously. Might as well have a copilot taskbar and copilot power button and copilot curry restaurant on speed dial guessing when Satya wants lunch and ordering it for him.
>>107778648>The ironic thing is I am using AI more and more to do shit rather than searching the webas if you had a choice in the matter. a.i is the only game in town if you need information so you're forced to interact with it. given a choice between a.i and oldschool forums, people would go with the forums, except in the case of research linux, or sites like stackexchange because those communities are filled with a bunch of obnoxious douchebags
>>107778809Also samefagging out of some vicarious wish that an MS employee is reading this to say, people want stability and predictability and reliability out of Windows. Copilot introduces instability into everything if touches and AIs have security flaws which DO NOT HAVE SOLUTIONS at the moment making them something we just cannot trust to be connected to anything sensitive at all like PII just for starters. No fucking company making/providing anything at all is going to want a massively unstable permanently insecure apparatus fingering all its data with its meandering tentacles, in an OS introducing utterly insane problems with with every "update" endlessly thanks to vibecoding, with nothing at all they can do about it besides stop using Windows. They're going to force everyone's hand to ditch Windows and fucking dare blame us for not liking being forced to use a product that have been told assuredly millions of times by now we do not want. Microsoft is not god, this might be written about in future decades and have shitty YouTube documentaries made about how Windows fell. It's truly Titanic disaster they are staring down and yet they keep aiming right for the iceberg.
>>107771011This. They'll still have a Jeet CEO, and be filled to the brim with shit eating jeet devs. Microsoft is cooked, forever.
>>107778809>Might as well have a copilot taskbar and copilot power button and copilot curry restaurant on speed dial guessing when Satya wants lunch and ordering it for him.kek
>>107771098>normies have defected, because the jeets have defecated
>>107771552>it LITERALLY cannot be worse than win11Is this a challenge, Saar?
>>107770984Let's see. Windows 10 is considered good, Windows 11 is considered shit (allegedly) so Windows 12 has a chance of being good.
>>107771517>They are getting rid of all local account loopholes, expect rufus to be killed next.they can't do that without breaking a ton of shit
>>107770984>made entirely with jeetcoding and hallucinating AIOh yeah, it's going to be great.
>>107771098>even normies have defected.You mean they're dropping desktop computers?
>>107777433>yotldit will never come because Microsoft are very purposefully boiling the frog slowly
>>107771227Why not just make AI write in machine code / assembly. fuck rust
oh you mean GeminiOS?kek, I'll become a normie phone tard full time because fuck everything
>>107770984>Made by troons/jeets/HR Stacy'sWhat do you think its going to be absolute dogshit.I am at the point i only use winblows for some games exclusively.
>>107771011dubs of truthfpbp/thread
>>1077709840% They stopped the every second version being good once they hit 8. It has been all downhill since then.
>>107780282I'm like 5s away from putting steam OS or general Linux on my gaming pc. I don't care about competitive games, so no anti cheat to worry about. Just be a pain redownloading games again. Talk me out of it.>>107777050How is the socket upside down but the plug the correct way up?
>>107780866Some games work better with Proton in Linux, cause of all the bullshit in the background of windows hogging all the RAM or CPU resources.The only problem is some games aren't compatible with Proton or you need to do some tweaking.For some .NET lib or something.Otherwise i would have wiped this piece of shit OS long time ago.I don't need it even professionally.
>>107780946Don't steam just do all that for you now? Steamdeck is pretty good at compatibility, and that seems to have rolled into steam generally.
>>107778899>Windows 10 is considered good,Hey let me force you a restart even if you are working on something important.Who in he's right mind thought this was a good idea.And it took them years to address it.
>>107780966Yes steam uses Proton have to set it in properties.
>>107780972>Hey let me force you a restart even if you are working on something important.Literal skill issue kek
>>107772647You faggots have such a short memory and forget what xp was like before service pack 2.
>>1077709840%. I will never use another Microslop product.
>>107778899>Windows 10 is considered goodSAAR
>>107772647>this commentclassic redditor
Only redditors believe in the every other version meme after 10 still sucked massive nigger dick.
>>107770984>windowsIt's called copilOS 12, oldie
>>107771552Pfff, there are still some parts that work somehow in win11, but they are working on them
>>107779762they're going to mac
>>107770984I thought 10 was the last version because some guy said so
>>107783264That was the same sandnigger who caused all this bullshit in the first place. He should be culled. He literally ruined Windows.
>>1077832647 was. 10 was the jeet enshittification era. Zoom zooms latch onto 10 because they are soullessly trying to emulate the organic and genuine love people had for 7.
>>107772759I grew up with xp in highschool and I had a friend who constantly bug hunted the piece of shit for fun. xp to this day is the buggiest most retarded product Microsoft ever released. There were so many ways to break it and crash the system with just basic typical user inputs my autist friend was able to find new one once a week for 4 years straight >Hey, wanna see me crash ms carls computer again with this new one? Every week
>>107773174>>dos 6.xNuh uh, anon. Y'all gotta lay it all out like a gud cuz
Haven't touched a new Windows since Vista.In fact, i still use it.
What was windows 6?
>>107770984The Copilot OS 12 365 App is the futureāa fully agentic OS built from the ground up not to operate a system but to enhance human experience 100-1000x. Face it. AI is the future and Indians at Microsoft are leading the way.
>>107773511im here anonfirst computer was a tandy sensation i too have watched everything go to absolute shit
>>107770984It will be called CopilotOS and no one will use it since Microslop is killing itself
>>107770984With how Microslop is doing right now, none...
>>107773432Any Linux distro will let you opt in or completely remove it and any that doesn't will simply die when people hop to a different distro
It's going to be the most jeeted, most AI inundated and most telemetry riddled riddled piece of subscription pushing shit in existence.If Win 11 doesn't manage to kill the whole thing, Win 12 is going to be the final nail in the Wangblows Microslop coffin. Linux better capitalize on this and make their system as normie friendly as possible to steal the marketshare.It's going to be a mercy killing and the world will be better for it.
>>107782943lmao bravo Microslop