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>using a full tower desktop pc in 2026
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>>107774234
Yeah, I live in a house. You know, with space.
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Lowest I'm willing to go is some kind of SFF build. Any smaller than that and I might as well be using a laptop.
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>>107774234
if you bought something like this in 2010 like Dell Studio or a Mac Mini you were rightfully called a faggot.
I LIKE having a giant, noisy tower PC next to me. also this >>107774245
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>>107774298
>I LIKE having a giant, noisy tower PC
This! So much this!
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>>107774234
I'm also considering just buying a fuckass SBC but every time I start up minecraft I'm reminded that I could not play on a 2048 chunk render distance if I did.
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>>107774234
Sorry kiddo unlike you I'm not underage.
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>>107774234
I'm wondering how you'll upgrade the CPU in it next year.
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>>107774330
zoomers throw away and replace consumer electronics every 2 years while whining about their parents ruining the environment. The idea of repairing or upgrading something is alien to them.
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>>107774330
No need to, this isn't 2000.

A 2018 CPU is perfectly usable in 2026, If you believe otherwise, you fell for memes.
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>>107774298
>I LIKE having a giant, noisy tower PC next to me.
I like having a huge PC so I can have proper airflow and cooling. Runs quiet even under heavy load.
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>>107774341
The oldest zoomers have already turned 29 this year btw.
>>107774366
Also this, checked
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>>107774245
you are arguing with a critical mass of retards who dont live with their parents but also dont live on their own, instead they rent a shitass room in some shithole apartment and even have several room mates, so they cant install a proper desktop in that space

by now you should be aware of the demographics here and their respective hardware choices

>an ancient thinkpad is all you need
translation: poor neet living with mommy

>amd bulldozer and some ancient videocard is all you need
translation: poor neet but parents still pay for the electricity so why not

>a small minipc/macmini is all you need
poorfag working dead-end job flipping burgers stocking shelves driving trucks at 4am living with 6 other poorfags so physical space is an issue
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A bugman's choice.
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>>107774234
"just use this monkey puck with bad thermals, no IO, and no way to modify it :3"

Made for:
1. the gorilla monkey
2. the ignorant / wageslave freetimecuck
3. dilation min-maxxers "look at how KYUT my BAWX is UwU, so small!!! (ACKK)"
4. jeff geerling "guys don't buy this retarded monkey puck, but... GUYS HERE IS MY MONKEY PUCK SUPER CLUSTER" (all the theoretical speedup gifted by amdahls law himself wasted on overhead in interconnecting each monkey puck brother to its sister)
5. female "programmer" (needs the desk space for their html cheatsheets) / EU inhabitant/pod resident (needs the space so the microwave can open)
6. landfills (MMMM, BAWL GRID ARRAYS)
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>>107774396
>retards who dont live with their parents but also dont live on their own, instead they rent a shitass room in some shithole apartment and even have several room mates, so they cant install a proper desktop in that space
I try to remember this when interacting with people on this website. a majority of you are dirt poor cockroaches living worse than my great great great grandparents did, eating your shitty processed food everyday living in a 35m2 box
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>>107774396
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>>107774234
Expect almost no one uses full tower desktop anymore. Everyone uses mid towers. Pic rel is an actual full tower.
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>>107774467
t. zoom zoom
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>>107774234
Agreed, desktop towers are obsolete. Docked laptops for workstations and some 4u compute nodes in your server closet are the patricians choice.
Idk why you have ewaste in the op though.
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Recommend me a small PC with replaceable parts (RAM and SSD at least) and can do light gaming (Wii/3DS emulation).
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I have a dedicated mini PC for everday use and a tower for gaming
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>>107774442
after a while here you start to sniff out the opinions of obvious brown favela residents who either cant afford the hardware they are talking about, or they just post engagement bait (for a poorfag one of the highest achivements in life is getting 1st worlders upset "i am starving but ay least i made that RICH guy reply to me haha take that buddy you're just like me now!)
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>>107774520
The one in OP's pic checks all your boxes.
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>>107774500
>Docked laptops for workstations and some 4u compute nodes in your server closet
imaging ousting yourself as not only a wageslave but a virgin too
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>>107774396
>>107774442
>>107774541
Stop talking to yourself.
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>>107774551
Can you really change the SSD and RAM of that thing without having to tear it apart like with most "big" brands?
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>>107774438
>3. dilation min-maxxers "look at how KYUT my BAWX is UwU, so small!!! (ACKK)"
lmao
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>>107774557
I would have you know that sometimes I send your cuckbox threads to a friend of mine so we can laugh at your antics.
I will continue to make a single reply per thread to farm engagement so please keep making these.
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>>107774656
Yes, it's easy. The one I had was completely toolless, just pull off the plastic lid and bam.

Many of the makers of these small PCs make a "barebones" version for $300 less for you to add your own ram, ssd, and OS.
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SFF chads report in
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>>107774396
>projecting this hard
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>>107774520
minisforum ITX mobo
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>>107774467
Gorgeous. I have the same CPU heatsink in a fullsize tower as well.

I'm the oldest of oldfags.
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>>107774234
This is how PC's should be. The gpu should be in a separate, detachable box.
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>>107774234
i don't see a slot for the gpu. where does it go on that?
>>107775346
spoken like someone who's never used an egpu.
>why can't i have a bunch of boxes on my desk that eat up more space than if i just built a normal computer
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>>107774396
back when i was renting with roommates we had a debian server full of all our pirated shit sitting in the hallway next to some guy's bicycle, shit was so cash
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>>107775485
>i don't see a slot for the gpu. where does it go on that?
I bet 50 shekels that you don't actually need a discrete GPU.
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>>107775660
Uh, I do. YOU may not, but don't project onto me.
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>>107774234
i cannot fit my RTX 5090 inside of that matchbox
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>>107774234
My 3.5 slot 4090 weighs as much as a PS5, it wouldn't fit in that.
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>>107774234
Bro I LOVE everything soldered and irreplaceable!!!!!!! Consooooooom!!!!
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>>107774234
I need power for my gaming and video editing professionally, but I must admit I've been longing for an era of tiny tech.
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>>107774320
it's the tiny fans that have to cool micro toaster ovens that sound like jet engines taking off
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i looked into the current state of single board computers, and theres like a million different flavors of pi now. why does there need to be so many?
raspberry, orange, banana, rock, walnut, cherry, probably more
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>>107774551
>>107774996
Which models do you recommend? Both companies have dozens of them available.
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>>107776832
because any shitter can cook their own ARM SBC
you don't even need to care about the software because somebody will do it for you when everything is open source
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>>107774234
None of the convenience of a laptop, with none of the upgradeability of a desktop.
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>>107774234
Yes.
Also I realize it's currently a spaghetti monster. My 2011 power supply died last week and I haphazardly tossed a new one in
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I have both, small pc for jellyfin server, slim case for main rig
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minisforum reporting in
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>>107774234
imagine the thermals
also: arrhenius equation and how a 10°c increase in operating temps reduces your semiconductor lifespan by half

but i guess you enjoy running your componants at 50% of their nominal performance and buying hardware at overinflated prices
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>>107774996
>2 slots
>up to 96 GB
Are there 48 GB RAM sticks now?
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>>107777202
>componants
*components
pardon my latent dyslexia
it tends to show up whenever im distracted
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>>107777202
>buying hardware at overinflated prices
But I don't buy macshit
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>>107776832
its beyond me how nobody has claimed pizza pi yet
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>>107774298
Why does a giant tower have to be loud? A compact form factor increases the need for actively cooling, including small fans with high frequency whine. A giant tower can incorporate both passive cooling and large fans for active cooling, both of which reduce noise.
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>>107777202
They just have a laptop heatsink and a blower fan in the top half of it. It's just going to be a laptop chip with integrated graphics. It won't perform as well as a desktop and won't be great for gaming or anything else that needs much GPU, but it's enough for most things, and in a small enough package that you can just stick it to the back of your monitor with mounting tape, tie up extra cables, and have effectively an all in one PC.
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>>107777238
no, but you buy hw when it breaks, not when its at an optimal price
i dont. i never had a component fail on me if it wasnt mechanical damage for cause of me occasionally being retarded
my machines run for 10 years on average
i think its because of a+++ thermals (i remove side panels. immediate 20°c drop in temps)
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>>107774376
People still talk about their parents after they turn 18, which is something you'll discover for yourself after you turn 18.
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>>107777266
>you can just stick it to the back of your monitor with mounting tape, tie up extra cables, and have effectively an all in one PC.
yeah, but whatfor?
you need a house to have your aio pc
but when you have a house you have space for a desktop
or even several of them if you think about using mini pcs as servers
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>>107777280
u wut m8?
I have never replaced a machine before, I had to gift them, a pentium3, an amd 3200+, core2quad, an core i5-4670k, several chink mini pcs, never had something die on me either on 25 years either
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small pcs are cool and all but what if you have 4090s/5090s in a beast machine? the small machines won't cut it
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>>107777307
arhenius' equation is still a thing
and i keep hearing about people whose shit breaks after 3-5 years of use
this shouldnt happen. the difference bw our uses?
they have shitty temps.

and yeah, i remove sidepanels since ages
since i had an athlon xp 2500+ and i overclocked it
from 1.83 to 2.25 ghz, all on air
these were glorious times...
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>>107777303
Maybe someone with a little desk. Idk, I have a normal desktop PC on the floor next to my desk. I kind of want one of those desks with a cubby built into one side to put a PC in.
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>>107777350
you can modify an existing desk for that
or you could build an enclosed shelf for your desk and build your pc in that
also yeah, if you have a small desk, just put your desktop on the ground.
theres no reason to pay a premium for the size factor especially since the compromises it implies make for an inferior machine with a shorter longevity in the end (the latter- is if one puts a gpu in there)
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>>107777323
Some mini-PCs have OCuLink or even support for docking with a PCIe slot, otherwise one could use USB4.
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>>107774234
>take shorter showers
>use paper straws
>turn your lights off
>stop using towers PCs
no thank you
also
>tower desktop
what the fuck is even that? desktop is horizontal, tower is the exact other type, you sit it vertically.
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>>107776872
Anything from Minisforum is good, GMKtec is second place. I wouldn't trust any of the other ching chong no name brands.
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>>107774234
>BUY LE REFURBISHED OFFICE POOTER!!!!
kys, shill
I won't buy some shitty company's e-waste.
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why would i have one of these when i could just have a full tower and a laptop/winmini
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>>107776716
>Mac
>Trannysized keyboard
>Faggot mouse
It's getting a reach around from gross abominations because you are both lesbians time sisters!
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>>107780808
>see computer
>think about trannies
prime /g/ material
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>>107777219
Yes
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>>107774234
>>using a full tower desktop pc in 2026
yes. i don't live in a caravan/van or call my car a "mobile home", nor am i running a point of sale cash register.
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>>107774234
Enjoy not being able to change components I guess
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>>107774234
this or a notebook? witch one will give me the least amount of headache in the long run?
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>>107774467
OP could grow weed in that badboy and save up for a normal computer
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>>107777255
Desktops have issues with thermal density.
Mobile dies and mini PCs in general dont output as much power for a given die aera.

The 30 watts that a mini pc may output can actually be sinked into the cooler so any fan only needs to ramp up considerably on a constant load.
Desktops have the problem that they do anything and the CPU can boost to hundreds of watts in an instant. This ends up spiking temps relatively high due to a bottleneck in heat transfer between the die and the IHS and most motherboards just immediately ramp up the fan in reposnse leading to more "loudness"

On equal footing with each CPU being limited to 30-50w, a desktop will be alot quieter. Some heuristics to fan curves can also cut down noise in higher power situations.
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>>107774234
>those who know
bro i feel you 100%. like why are you willingly under go CBT by getting a loud, big and high watt pc? but those faggots will learn, sooner than later. AMD and Nvidia had no consumer GPUs at CES. They will learn to appreciate:
>efficiency
>minimalism
>portability
>fps per watt
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>>107774234
Perfect to put more dragon dildo on it!
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>>107781980
To me that just sounds like a whole lot of giving up
>efficiency
The difference in each isn't enough to care, that is unless your country has been plundered of it's power generation capabilities
>minimalism
Only valid if justified correctly
>portability
Not necessary if you have a stable position in life
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>>107774564
>>107775130
sure bro let me guess you live in a mansion and you make 7 figures yet a minipc is all you need right?

you poorfag dipshits are not even self aware to see only your kind is recommending those.
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>>107774234
>using a computer that makes noise in 2005+21
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>>107782724
Jokes on you
I have heavy tinnitus. I alway hear noices
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>>107774234
Power supply needs to be INSIDE the PC. You know with ground so there's no issues with feedback from audio cables..
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>>107774234
That shit can't even fit two 480mm radiators. What is this? A baby's toy?
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>>107783862
You can have ground with an external supply too, retard.

Internal power supply takes up a lot of your limited space and make your thermals worse.
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>>107774234
>dad i want a computer
>the computer
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Gonna rebuild from Enthoo pro 2 SE to actual super tower AX700. Might be too chunky, but better more space and not need it than less and need it.
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>>107787033
go for it.
I have ITX motherboard in 4U rack case.
shame they don't make true big tower cases anymore.
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>>107782222
>didn't deny it
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>>107781924
That's why you use an AiO.
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>>107788951
AIOs don't fix the fact modern CPUs have thermal densities rivaling nuclear reactors
it's purely down to a bottleneck of getting heat out of the silicon. More cooling helps but something like a 360mm AIO is well beyond diminishing returns.

Even direct die doesn't yield the results you'd expect from watercooling. Water cooled CPU is always going to run hotter than a water cooled GPU despite the CPU taking half the watts
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>>107789466
Obviously, the dies are much denser then a modern GPU's.
But having more thermal mass helps, specially when it boosts ridiculous watts and amps, that's why AiOs are better then just heatsinks in this case, even with most of the bottleneck being getting the heat out of the die.
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>>107774320
How does it feel to take it up the ass?
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>>107774234
Insert PCI-E card into this box now. If you want to add a GPU you need to have support for oculink or thunderbolt and need to buy expensive enclosure and PSU that will cost as much as middle shelf gpu.
After this you are still limited to one gpu. There are usecases for second gpu, like for example GPU-Passthrough, Lossless scaling user second gpu, dedicated GPU for rendering, for example Blender.
Still you are limited if you want to put an additional card like sound card and you won't solve that problem. You just can't. Retard will argue that "onboard audio is good" now. I believed in that saying and ran several computers without one for like 15 years and now I can say they are fucking retards. I've had Sound Blaster Live 24bit long time ago and didn't use it in later PCs. But recently I've thought that I mainly enjoy retro games and wanted EAX. I've bought Sound Blaster Audigy RX (modern Sound Blaster Audigy 5 with hardware EAX 4) and it not only handles EAX, but everything sounds better than onboard audio in AM4 X570 AORUS ELITE. And these onboard audio chips are supposed to be "good HD audio". I've tried USB DAC (Sound Blaster G5) few years before that to check if that statement about onboard chips being good nowadays. It was like 2-3 times more expensive than that Sound Blaster card and it didn't made an impression on me. At that time I believed that statement, because the DAC was a disappointment. I would need to gaslight myself to think it did anything other than amplify the sound. But that Sound Blaster had clear difference right after setting it up and I now know, that this statement if false.

So, while the compact box is nice. There are compromises. If you don't care about GPUs or Audio then I guess it's ok. I think mini-pcs are just better, more reliable portable computes than laptops. You don't need to worry about keyboard, display, hinges failures and overheating.
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>>107774234
You can't game anything decent on that mobile in disguise.
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>>107774467
TBF that's because we don't need masses of space for cables / 5.25" drives anymore

A mid-tower is large enough for all your hardware unless you're some radiatorfag

Mass storage is better left in a separate machine/location.
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>>107774376
Zoomer is a US regional thing. What you call zoomer in your place is culturally much different in Eastern/Center Europe. We were like 5-10 years behind depending on region and our experiences are much different. What you call the oldest zoomer here has the experience more like a gen Y, and there were also major cultural differences, because the americanization of culture wasn't yet a thing and there was a stark difference in how we experienced that time. Globalization ruined culture and nowadays I can say the culture or lack thereof is the same, but it wasn't the case at that time period here.
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>>107774245
Wait until Adam Something or another of those tardtubers learn about it!
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>>107774234
>cuckbox
real men use desktop PC's stop being a little gay faggot
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>>107774366
my shit is from 2007 NOOB
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>>107774234
I still have enough testosterone to be able to lift my 13kg case, tyvm

I don't understand the appeal of small things in general, are you guys gay or something?
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>>107774234
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>>107774396
I have both a mac mini (current pc) and a full tower (previous pc). The mac mini suits my needs very well. I'm not a gamer nor an AI slop artist. I just do programming, browsing the internet and the occasional pirated movie.
It just works, it's fast, and the small form-factor is convenient more often than not.
But let me guess, you need more.



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