Winners Don't Use Drugs.
Natural selection
erowid is how one educates oneself about recreational drugsdon't know what this tard died from, but fuck fentanyl
>>107776634the first wave of AI casualties has arrivedhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQRo3Uz_VQ
>>107776634Chat made Sam an award winner.
>>107776634it was jenkem
>>107776646spbp
Retards will say this is a good thing. Please put your opinions on drug abuse aside and consider the long-term consequences of general misinformation.
>takes medical advice from unqualified strangers: they're an idiot>takes medial advice from a robot which was trained on the same sources: robots are evil
>>107776676llm's should not be used as a source of information
It is unfortunate, but we must now impose all kinds of red tape and regulation to prevent retards from killing themselves. Such is our way of life.
>>107776676We certainly need implement guardrails and a culture of safe outcomes for all.Things need to be ensured.
>>107776676It is a good thing that people who trust robots with their lives are getting weeded out
>>107776634you know i don't understand this jewingon one hand ai is totally learning from the training data so kikeman can steal everything that was ever copyrightedon the other hand it's just a tool and openkike is not liable for any harm causedi mean it either one or the other. is it a tool, or is it an actor?
>>107776676more the fact that OpenAI considered having chat offer drug advice as acceptable being a giant red flag. I mean there's overdoing the guard rails yadda vs shit literally guaranteed to go offrail.
deserved
>>107776634>19>using chatgpt for health advice Why are zoomers so fucking stupid?
>>107776634darwin strikes again
HmmI took the data from a study regarding vitamin B12 and put it i to chatgpt and had it interpratet and extrapolate from that study to tell me how much I should take for and for how long for the same effects
drugs are jewish.
>>107777332puritans are insufferable.
>>107777348less so than jews
>>107776676assuming no suicidal intentions or foul play; he didn't think, that was his problemwhat good is having true information available if people don't use it, if it's inconveninent to use itwhat he needed was to be critical, to question things, to challenge ideas, and that practise is rapidly becoming unpopular and illegal
I understand now why teachers always said that Wikipedia can't be source for a paper
>>107776687The unqualified stranger confidently giving bullshit advice that kills someone would in fact get shit on. But the bigger problem is tech companies promoting an unqualified digital stranger as someone that can be trusted.
>>107777589a better equivalent is reading unsuitable information for your circumstances/condition, even if the information is accurate for what it was intended for, you as a non-expert won't know which information is suitable for you.an unqualified person giving specific medical advice to someone will surely get that person in trouble, but asking chatgpt is more like just browsing reddit or whatever and finding existing information you think is suitable.
Source: https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/calif-teen-chatgpt-drug-advice-fatal-overdose-21266718.phpAs you may guess, ChatGPT is a scapegoat for other problems. The parents were oblivious to 19y/o their getting Xanax, alcohol and another opioid 7-oh (which has since been made illegal) and also taking cough syrup and kratom.After the kid insisted it would start giving advice and of course it advised against doing the thing that killed him.>Turner-Scott, who is an attorney, is haunted by the fact that her son was actively trying to stay safe and trusting ChatGPT to help him do that.Actively trying to stay safe, huh... and yet... >Sam did not follow ChatGPT’s advice [when he overdosed and died]
>>107777705No. Reading existing information and asking a question are two totally different sets of expectations. The chat bot isn't an existing thread it's an unqualified person bullshitting you on your current situation.
>>107778244*their 19 y/oNot to say OpenAI is free of guilt here but the kid would have killed himself at some point or another.
>>107778288a chat bot is not a person, it just spits out the next token based on statistical probability along with some randomness based on what it was trained against. anyone who has some idea of what it is should know not to blindly trust anything that comes out of it
kid was a fucking retard and was going to off himself with or without chatgpt's help
>>107776676Yeah this could be my mother or anyone from my family. They ask clankers for everything even though I advised them not to multiple times. This is just sad.
>>107778244Kratom is going to get banned cause of these 7-Oh extracts while weed is going to become federally legal.
>>107776634boo hoo nigga i don't care
>>107778399chatgpt is just being a bro here
>>107778399doesn't matter.the court case is clear and only some exceptional jewing would fail it.the product told the user to kys. company is 100% responsible.if you had a cartoon which tells the viewer to kys your ass would get busted in a second.
junkie retard lol
>>107778466kids just make up new words to get around filters, and this isn't at all a new thing. not just alternatives to swear words, either
>>107778399>before recommending Sam take twice as much cough syrup so he would have stronger hallucinations..
>>107778399kid was doing DXM? probably died from shitting his guts out
>>107778583doesn't matter, the directly product told a kid to kys, and this isn't the first time. scam kikeman must've gave his ass to some truly revolting kikes to not have jew-dicial system but him immediately. if he wasn't a fucking jew this just wouldn't fly.
>>107776634>HMMM who do I go to for advice on how much of a drug to take???>Trusted search results, articles, subreddits or other sources of community curated, well documented and cited information? Perhaps somewhere that people can offer their own opinions or reviews on whether what is being said is true?>NAH I'M GONNA TRUST THE CHATBOT THAT IS WELL KNOWN FOR TALKING TOTAL BULLSHIT THAT ALSO CAN'T UNDERSTAND NUMBERS OR VALUES LMAO #YOLOActually deserved.19 years old???? Fucking hell people today are RETARDED (or WERE lmao).
>>107779075Even erowid is still functional these days..
>>107779105i was happy for 5 seconds that a site i have known since a couple decades still exists only to realize its pozzed nowfor fucks sakeim not sure if i wanna look up what else they deleted
>>107779142ah, no, i take that backits just that their search engine sucks
>>107776634>age 19
>drug abuser abuses drugs and dies, news whenever idk
"drug advice" makes it sound like it's for harmless/positive medical advice. i really wish people would stop making deliberately misleading headlines
>>107776676Stop trying to protect idiots.They will survive, multiply and then you have way more idiots everywhere.
>>107777348being a junkie does not make you unique or interesting>>107777348
>>107778399>chatGPTs retarded response>altman gets in trouble again>natural selection gets a little helping handwhats not to love?
unfortunaly yeah drugs are not okay.That's why druggies end up clean(if they're not too deep into coke/crack/meth/speed whatev) after a final dose of lsd.Though now it's normal people doing shit so will see what happens.
>>107776634>AIfags
>>107780788>after a final dose of lsdwhy specifically this?
any reasonable personable would have at least googled the drug to double check...
>>107776634>zoomers still think chatbots are artificial intelligence
>>107776676>ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info>ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info
>>107780928reset button
>>107776634why would you trust AI with anything ?
>>107781428
>it's AI's fault my son was a loser junkie
>>107781463and if a cop caught him but just told him to double the dose next time for a better rattle, you'd be equally ok with that?
>>107781524Sure, if it's some good shit
>>107776634>dosage instructions>cause and effect>"OH DID I SAY THIS? I MEANT THIS AMOUNT OF DOSAGE TEE HEE, SORRY DUUD MY BAD">body is unresponsive to reactions>"OH WAIT I DID IT AGAIN, OOPSIE, I MEANT THIS AMOUNT OF DOSAGE">now the cops are looking at the screen with ChatGPT>"DUUD ARE YOU THERE? YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S THIS AMOUNT OF DOSAGE INSTEAD"meanwhile, AI enthusiastics:>"let's just keep going and make this machine likable and continue to fuck up the answers"
I've just finished an alcohol taper after months of drinking following Gemini Pro's instructions and they were very good and on point, I was even checking with external resources to make sure its not making shit up lmao
>Then, last May, tragedy struck. Sam had finally confided in his mother about his drug and alcohol use. She took him to a clinic to get help. They had a plan to continue his treatment. But the next day, Turner-Scott found her son not breathing in his San Jose bedroom, lips blue.great mom.just leave your junkie son unsupervised right after he got out of the clinic.
>>107776676>MUH MISINFORMATIONNah, we live in a post-truth world; the only thing that matters is narratives. Anyone who whinges about "misinformation" only wants to be told what to think. This webm is real by the way.
>>107778399Zoomers are retarded
>>107776676people will adapt after a few incidents like thisIt will be a "painful" transition (actually the harm is negligible but AI-haters and safetyists love stuff like this and won't let it go) but worth it if so the smart of us don't have to endure cucked AI to protect a few idiots
>"A Calif. developer trusted ChatGPT for code advice. He died flipping burgers."
>>107778399didn't know it was chill like that
>>107776676>consider the long-term consequences of general misinformationNever take anything you read on the internet at face value.
>>107776660i'll bet you a 4chan pass zooms don't even know what's erowid.
>>107778466>sarah connor, go kys
>>107776676Would it be any better if the kid OD'd based on some advice he read on a forum?
They should be drafted and sent to die in Vietnam before they can overdose
>>107776634>AI brings back natural selection BASED
>>107785218Because he was going to college?
>>107776676>consider the long-term consequences of general misinformationGit gud, RTFM, lurk moar, etc
>>107776634What this article does is take a real tragedy and collapse it into a neat morality play where “ChatGPT” is cast as the villain.AI did not supply drugs, administer drugs, or override medical judgment. It is a text system that responds to prompts. The teen in question was already using substances, seeking information elsewhere, and already on a trajectory independent of any AI. Treating an AI as the causal agent here is like blaming Google, a book, or a forum post while erasing the broader context of addiction, mental health, and human decisionmaking.The system explicitly warns, refuses, and redirects far more often than the article acknowledges. ChatGPT is designed to avoid giving actionable drug instructions and to encourage seeking professional help. The idea that a probabilistic text model “talked someone into overdosing” ignores both the safeguards that exist and the fact that users ignore warnings from humans every day. If warnings worked perfectly, overdoses wouldn’t exist at all.This is a standard pattern in tech panic journalism. When a new tool appears, it gets blamed because that’s emotionally easier than confronting how fragmented, underfunded, and inaccessible real mental-health and addiction support is. AI becomes a convenient proxy target. The same thing happened with video games, forums, social media, and search engines. None of them “caused” human suffering; they just made it visible.Holding AI to a standard we don’t apply to people is incoherent. Friends give bad advice. Strangers give bad advice. Reddit gives bad advice. Yet we don’t write headlines implying those entities “killed” someone unless we’re trying to provoke outrage. AI doesn’t get intent, agency, or moral standing, but it gets blamed as if it does.
>>107776676Blame leftist indoctrination in schools for this. They don't teach critical thinking anymore. They consider objectivity to be racist.
>>107776634Dumbass, I am pretty sure there is a disclaimer these days that tell you to doublecheck whatever an AI tells you. Even without that you should know not to trust AI's 100%. Second post is right, it is natural selection at this point. Shame though, guy looked fit and handsome.
>>107785997>forumsi dunno about this one, I definitely would not know where to get sodium nitrite from if it weren't for sanctioned-suicide. and like hell id kill myself any other way thats available
>>107778399>Human asks the AI to do something>AI does it>"Wooooow!"At what point is it the humans fault? It is like parents asking the government to shut down the internet because they never applied parental controls to their device.
>>107779058He will never escape the mansion
>>107785997>nooo saltman's chatbot is innocent it only told him what to do and encouraged him
>>107776660>erowid is how one educates oneself about recreational drugsrecreational drug advice is really no different from regular medical advise which begs the question as to whether LLMs being lobotomised and censored due is more dangerous than uncensored i.e. the truth according to it.At the end of the day the real benifit of an LLM is to make it easier for a person to digest and understand information which is always a good thing.
>>107786455>which is always a good thing.Not according to the various governments of the world.
>>107776634Darwin Award recipient
>>107776634KWAB
>>1077862322017 called. They want their /pol/tard projection back.
>>107781735wow is that real?
>>107784820>da zoomersyour tripping unc, chill out
>>107778399never go full trippy
>>107776696why? I use it all the time in place of what I would've googled in the past, and if something sounds like it's not correct, I'll just press it more for accuracy and it usually corrects itself after a few times.
>californian>in texasgood riddance, hope the mom dies too.
>>107778399I knew this was going to happen. Somehow it gets heavily trained on reddit, psychonautwiki, and other "drug nerd" spaces, where most people are teenagers, actually most of the activity is constantly turning over as people grow out of it then new people get into it. You have to learn the connection between this stuff and homelessness one day, then you stop being an internet nerd.
>>107788615That sounds like more effort than just a standard search and checking multiple sources.
>>107776634>Winners Don't Use Drugs.
>>107776646This
what did he supposedly die OF exactly? it wasnt pods opiates so it wasnt respiratory failure, it wasnt a heart attack, so what was it exactly and what drug do they think caused it
>>107781577>DUDE DRUGS LMAOthis type of trash encouraging drug use is more culpable for this kid's death than any AI model
>>107776634>trusted ChatGPT for drug advice>trusted ChatGPTWhat a fucking retard. Serves him right. He trusted a bot.Good riddance.
>>107789860ten paracetamol within 24 hours
>>107781101Anyone who doesn't know that it's just a glorified search result aggregator will hear AI and think "AI". Investors have spent billions thinking they're creating SkyNet or a machine god when in reality they're pumping money into algorithmic madlibs.
>>107779214The issue is that sometimes articles aren't even listed as AI generated. This isn't just a search engine problem but a general misinformation problem. We all know that right now hundreds of pages of complete horseshit are being generated and tried to pass off as legit info. I wonder how many fake health websites are out there now advising people on vitamin usage that are 100% AI generated slop made by 'real' doctors. Once most the articles online are fake how the fuck are you supposed to even use the internet?
>>107776668You cant die from sniffing poo
I trust Gemini
>>107776676Stop being so antisemitic.You need to be strong, anon. Strong enough to accept that 2 + 2 = 5, if the government needs you to accept it.
>>107776676Maybe we should have a robot tell us what is and is not misinformation.
>>107786301>At what point is it the humans fault?If the kid even has the desire to chug cough syrup then the parents terminally fucked up years before and probably should have been banned by law from reproducing in the first placeGPT did humanity ma favor by ending their bloodline
>>107789860shitload of xanax + alcohol, toxicology showed he had 0.125 BACthis can totally cause respiratory depression, he possibly did an hero
>>107776634the internet is srs buisness
>>107776676>>107786455I bet it wasn't even factual error on AI side but his stuff was simply contaminated with fent and/or he didn't test/measure it correctly.Dosages and interactions of popular drugs are not that obscure and any good LLM should have plenty on information on it in its datasets.
>>107776634Excellent.It's fun to see that a lot if not all people that uses AI only achieves a worse result than before using it...
Don't trust the experts.Trust the robots instead. The robots know better.
>>107778399deserved just for that message alone
>>107786232Yeah blame the leftists and question the robots unless the robots are being racist, then suddenly don't question the robots also take medical and racist advice from 4chan instead
>>107776634I hate defending AI but this guy was just a retard. There's literally a quote in the terms of use of chatgpt>Output may not always be accurate. You should not rely on Output from our Services as a sole source of truth or factual information, or as a substitute for professional advice.So I hope his family isn't thinking about suing and embarrassing themselves further
>>107794539those don't stand up in court because it's so widely accepted that no one reads them
/g/ be like:>yeah i should be able to sell drugs to kids and not get in trouble for it. Jail? What do you mean im responsible? No no i'm A NONFACTOR these kids were on a bad path anyway my drugs have nothing to do with anything lole
>>107795783*proceeds to shove SSRIs and HRT into children's throats*
>>107776696the point is that they are
>>107776676A good thing a junkie died but a bad thing retards and schizos have access to chatgpt
>>107779075>CHATBOT THAT IS WELL KNOWN FOR TALKING TOTAL BULLSHIT THAT ALSO CAN'T UNDERSTAND NUMBERS OR VALUESwhy are we dedicating like 20% of our economy to this thing again
>>107795743Yes it does. TOS are shoved in your face whenever you sign up for or use any service for a reason
>>107796124>WELL KNOWN FOR TALKING TOTAL BULLSHIT THAT ALSO CAN'T UNDERSTAND NUMBERS OR VALUESsounds like the executive and administrative staff that the other 80% of the economy is devoted to propping upat least chatgpt isn't actively malicious on top of that
>>107795783>sellso gpt sold it to him then, fascinating
>>107796126on top of that it's literally on every single chat screen
>>107796144>at least chatgpt isn't actively malicious on top of thatnigga
>>107776634The idea of ChatGPT training itself on 4chan archives and advising parents to make crystals with their child as a fun science experiment is cracking me the fuck up
>>107788615>ask chatbot question>don't like the answer>tell it to change the answer until it says what you wantGen Z "research"
>>107776634Deserved. Natural selection.
>>107776676It is a good thing as the collective IQ goes up when low IQ individuals kill themselves
meh, I could've asked gpt for drugs dosage if I were a kid trying to have fun, I wouldn't know anything better.. like is there even a site where I can find real info about DXM or codeine dosages ? I guess it's all teenagers slop anyway right
>>107796416That's not how IQ is computed btw, removing a low value will just shift the 100 bar higher
>>107796402This is how it works this is why I've stopped using it to ask questions.Right now I only use the version that can search internet websites for a specific type of lazy questions. And usually make it write short descriptions and go read the link myself.
>>107790155I never trusted the internet so I just open google scholar and then go pirate the article.Early AI seemed cool because it helped me summarize the articles or I could upload them to it and challange my understanding asking if it's so or that other way.
>>107795783>stranger asks another stronger how to go "fully trippy peaking hard">is told to just double whatever it is he normally does>the fault lies with the stranger who told him to do that, not with the guy who does drugs and doubled his dosage at the advice of some strangerThis is your logic
>>107776634>California>Teenager>already drug addictChatGPT did the world a favor
>>107795783He was 19, not a kid. And yes, you should be able to sell drugs to a 19 year old as long as you're not doing anything weird like lacing them or misrepresenting what they are. The guy was recklessly irresponsible with his drug use, his death is tantamount to suicide.
>>107776634Chatgpt, how do I get to gensokyo?
>>107797865
>>107777589not just that, theyd be extremely liablethe real problem is that the rules apply only to thee and not for me the corporation