>>107780574
That's Nvidia's fault, not GNU/Linux's.

>>107780574
Does it really matter for you? Not like the performance hit matters with a 1030, you're not playing anything other than pixel art games that can run on Intel integrated graphics from 10 years ago.

Also, if you know this, it's really easy to just buy an AMD GPU.

>>107780597
Truth

>>107780574
Rumor has it that it's actually coming this year.

At least it's work in some instances. Lack of software is way worse.
>>107780597
It doesn't matter whose fault it is.

>>107780574
I have 3 nvidia gpu's just sitting around doing nothing. I game on iGPU now.
>RTX A2000 ampere sff
>RTX 2060
>GTX 1050ti
I don't even have a standard atx pc to put them into anymore, I took the miniPC pill. Kek
I don't sell them purely out of fear that if I ever want to play demanding games again I won't be able to buy one for a reasonable price.

>>107780597
You sound like Microdick when they released stats during Vista’s time showing NVIDIA was responsible for 30% of BSODs.
The end user doesn’t care. Fix the shit or fuck off.

>>107780968
>Fix the shit or fuck off

if (FaultModuleName == "nvlddmkm.sys") {
    SetBackgroundColor(GREEN);
    Print("A problem has been detected and NVIDIA™ has shut down in order to protect your computer");
} else {
    SetBackgroundColor(BLUE);
    Print("A problem has been detected and Windows has shut down in order to protect your computer");
}

>>107780574

Well, don’t use Nvidia, they overcharge and they suck. Nvidia is all about locking market with their software and then pulling the rug (CUDA, PhysX, etc).

>>107780574
Works just fine on my machine

>>107781000
which one is better AMD, Intell?

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>>107780574
>lack of true nvidia support on linux is actually the worst thing about linux
No, lack of true Linux support on Nvidia is actually the worst thing about Nvidia. You are retarded to use Nvidia when you literally see why Nvidia is shit and nothing works on it.

>>107780968
>You don't understand, I NEED THE GREEN BOX, and it's your responsibility to reverse engineer the chip inside it!
>>107781260
On Linux, both use open-source drivers and have comparable performance. Intel is slightly better for stuff like video encoding and AI shit. On Windows, AMD wins by virtue of having much more mature drivers.

I use Nvidia on Linux, but I have an AMD CPU with integrated graphics for most stuff.
Works jsut fine.

>>107780574
Yes because nvidia are niggers.

>>107780574
Works on gnome

>>107780968
>The end user doesn’t care. Fix the shit or fuck off.
You fix it buy not buying from companies hostile to FOSS like nvidia.

>>107780968
>i bought moldy bread and when i toasted it and ate it i couldn't stop shitting!!! FIX YOUR TOASTER!!!!

>>107780968
Yeah and how the fuck do you think people would be able to do that? Do you think reverse engineering graphics cards is something you do in a weekend?

Am I really the only one who never had problems with nvidia on Linux? I have a 1080ti and triple monitor setup and everything just works

>>107780574
>>107781580
This. Ever notice how MacOS barely works on non-Apple hardware? This is because Apple develops MacOS specifically for Apple hardware. This should be basic tech literacy. If you want your computer to work make sure the hardware you're buying works well with the software you're using.

>>107781661
Probably, yes. There are many problems with nvidia drivers including the latest one available for a 1080 ti. It's not as bad as the most recent driver though.

>>107781661
nah same here on a 3060

>>107781661
its not that nvidia cards *dont work*. they work perfectly fine, its just that the drivers are sub-optimal compared to AMD, and are much more inconsistent as a result

>Still no decent RTSS or Special K equivalent on Linux
And no, fucking Mango HUD is not good enough.

>>107780574
I can play civ5, Minecraft, terraria, world of tanks, war thunder, and lol on Ubuntu

cope

What's wrong with Nvidia GPU support ? I game on a GTX 1660 it's okay.

>>107781661
The "major" issue with Nvidia on Linux is the drivers are limited to a few specific kernel versions.
Linux "hobbyists" want to run any arbitrary kernels but this is an issue if an Nvidia driver have bugs or incompatibles with that kernel.
The reality is if you are using a mainstream distro that supports Nvidia drivers, they have a handful of driver+kernel combos that are tested and the vast majority of users won't see much issue with whatever the distro hands them.
I was using Nvidia with Linux back in 2012-2013 which few gripes. If anything opengl stuff like Minecraft was more stable under Linux than Windows.

Most ML stuff has been with Nvidia+Linux

>>107780574
Actually the worst thing about linux is you need to tinker all the fucking time.
You debloat windows enterprise once (takes 5 mins) and you're set for life

>>107780613
>pixel art games that can run on Intel integrated graphics from 10 years ago
You'd be surprised. Especially if it's written in Godot. A lot of these have several layers of post-processing effects you can't turn off and are much heavier than warranted. But game programmers aren't different than normal programmers and only test on their monster workstations with 2x 5090s so they say oh these effects are free

>>107783091
You can run Nvidia driver on literally any kernel you have the headers for with dkms.

>>107780574
>>107780968
Don't worry, nvidia is exiting the consoomer market so you won't have to worry about GPU compatibility much longer. You will own nothing.

>>107783156
It's always been the case.
It's a matter of what is reliable with the least amount of issues. Hence why distros have specific versions they have personally tested.
Nothing stopping you from running the latest kernel with the latest driver but expect problems.

>>107780574
Not really, the worst thing about Linux is all the desktop environments suck

>>107783156
Nope

>>107782915
You're on decade old hardware so yeah it should work by now.

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>>107781009
No it doesn't. You don't have a magic PC that's avoiding the huge performance hit in DX12 games versus Windows. You don't have a magic PC that's magically restored the missing features versus the Windows driver, such as voltage control. You're just an uncritical chump who does nothing of note with their system and so doesn't notice things that are broken. Nvidia is "fine" on Linux if you're a tranny who only uses it to rice their desktop and groom kids on Discord.

>>107783342
i think you can "undervolt" by lowering the power limit while boosting clocks

>>107783342
DX12 games often perform better when translated to Vulkan...

>>107780968
How about companies stop being so anti consumer, huh? Maybe if people started raping those CEOs and their nigger investors some positive change would happen for once.

>>107781293
AMDalits spout this nonsense when NVIDIA has objectively the ebst hardware AND with DLSS4.5 your 9070XT is rendered obsolete. Enjoy your 100$ cheaper paperweight lmao

>>107785406
what a fucking brown way to speak

>>107780574
works for me, don't know what additional support you need

>>107780574
Maybe if Nvidia wasn't a greedy piece of shit ruining PC building and the very market that built them up in the first place all to shill the AI bubble.
A company with dubious morals like that doesn't support open source drivers.

>>107780574
>lack of true nvidia support on linux is actually the worst thing about linux
What do you mean? Nvidia optimizes for Linux first when it comes to CUDA.
Nearly all LLMs are trained on Linux servers.

novideo werks fine on loonix. it's just game performance that can be ass.

>>107781380
Microsoft signed the driver and added it to the WHQL.
>>107781587
Microsoft signed the driver and added it to the WHQL.

>>107780597
>>107781293
>freetards explode
Doesn't matter, OPs point stands.

>>107782915
Fucking bugs everywhere. It wouldn't be so bad if they fixed bugs in a timely manner, but if you find a bug with nvidia driver you can bet your ass that it will be at least 6 months before it's fixed unless it's completely ridiculous and breaks everything.

They do fix it faster if it's really bad... but it has to be really really bad.

>>107789261
What does that have to do with what either of us said?

>>107780574
It just works though?
What the fuck do you want? the shit windows has? nvidia app? retard

>>107780574
Nvidia literally said they don't care about consumer hardware anymore so why does it matter.

Doesn't the steam deck run Linux and ship Nvidia cards?

>>107793970
No?
But even if it did valve wouldn't let it rot like that.

I'm running an RX 9070 XT on Gentoo and couldn't be happier with a GPU. Maybe join team red, faggots.

>gayland problems
works fine on xorg

>>107780574
>lack of true nvidia support on linux
Works on my machine.

>>107781661
It's not issues like the cards won't work. It just means you won't get optimization improvements.

>>107793970
It's AMD like every other console

>>107783342
>tinkertranny accusing others of being trannies
Who gives a fuck about voltage control? Do you think these cards don't come off the lines already tuned thanks to millions (perhaps billions) of dollars worth of R&D?

>>107781661
Same with my 5070 and my old 3070ti, got 0 issues.

>>107781661
Never had any issues, but the 30% performance drop over Windows and all the fucking tweaks needed to get games running made me go back to Windows and swear off Linux forever.
Nvidia worked fine on Linux, but it works phenomenally on Windows.

>>107793999
>Maybe join team red, faggots.
I would if;
>FSR 3 didn't look worse than even the first iteration of DLSS
>FSR had anything adjecent to DLAA
>AMD didn't abandon FSR 4 and let random modders make injectors for it
>9070XT didn't offer worse performance on 1440p than a fucking 5060ti even on GNU/+Linux simply because things are developed and cattered towards nVidia
>AMD actually cared about their GPUs and supported them
>inb4 just play native
Most modern games don't offer native but TAA or forced FSR/DLSS, and in that case DLSS/DLAA always wins, simply because neither AMD nor the developers care about AMD.
Now I know you will write something like;
>Imagine still playing video games
Yeah imagine actually doing something on your PC instead of just browsing /g/ and scrolling reels while you pretend that you actually code and are more productive than playing video games.

>>107782410
You can't play lol and know it

>>107794615
Have you considered getting an actual hobby instead of vidya

>>107780968
how about you fuck yourself with a rake, retard.

>>107794716
>AMD actually cared about their GPUs and supported them
I wish nvidia did this. On Windows I could live with Nvidia, on Linux not so much. I hope their current Windows drivers are at least better than their Linux drivers.

>>107794716
>FSR 3 didn't look worse than even the first iteration of DLSS
FSR and DLSS are both conceptually cancerous. I don't play any game that uses them.

>>107780574
imaginary nvidia support works just fine.

>>107780574
The H100 works just great with Linux.

>>107781661
no, i honestly dont understand how it's all so shit and broken for some people, i've used linux with a 2070, a 3070, and a 970, i've never ran into the fabled driver issues that people say that they have constantly

>>107781661
It's all just lies from winshills

This is what's preventing me from switching. I would sell my RTX 4090 but AMD doesn't even bother with making good cards anymore, just budget cards.

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>>107780574
No issues ever.

>>107801311
Eh, it's nowhere near as good as AMD support. You'll have it break occasionally and get kicked to a terminal instead of a GUI on boot after updates, and there is a pretty significant performance hit vs Windows still.
It is plenty usable if it's all you have though. I ran with a 2080 super for many years until I upgraded to a 9070 XT. It was usable in Linux.

>>107781789
I think this should be getting better, a lot of work is being done to add the kinds of APIs and performance counters that stuff like RTSS relies on on windows.

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Works on my machine
The only thing that doesnt always work is DLSS and framegen

>>107780574
most of vINDIA chips IN THE WORLD works on Linux or FreeBSD you stupid mongol.

Noone must to support your TNT2 riva anymore.

fuck this jew-KIKE capture "find the image ... star with 6 spikes"

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>>107794716
>>FSR 3 didn't look worse than even the first iteration of DLSS
Good thing it works on 3 generations of AMD thanks to INT8 since months ago you rock abiding pajeet.
>>FSR had anything adjecent to DLAA
FSR AA is fine and superior in quality to TAA.
>>AMD didn't abandon FSR 4 and let random modders make injectors for it
It takes two clicks and works with every game.
>>9070XT didn't offer worse performance on 1440p than a fucking 5060ti even on GNU/+Linux simply because things are developed and cattered towards nVidia
Lying faggot.
>>AMD actually cared about their GPUs and supported them
Who cares about what AMD does when MESA is superior? I didn't switch to Linux to suckle at AMD's teet for driver support.

>>107803080
>FSR 4 works*

>>107781661
Same, I've got a 4070S and only had problem when a KDE update replaced xorg for gayland

>>107780888
I think it matters who's fault it is. Because it shows the colors of those making the hardware, and what they truly care about.
Remember Green is the color of money, the thing they value above all else.

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>>107780574
Here you go

>>107802219
>want to enjoy game
>something broke / not working that one time
USELESS

>virtualization doesn’t work
>can’t OC memory so you get dogshit undervolting by power limiting at the cost of performance instead of bring perf neutral with msi afterburner
>dx12 performance noticeably worse than on winblows
>framegen doesn’t appear as an option half the time
nvidia is usable but it’s not a good experience
>buy amd
and is fucking trash when it comes to gous, I’d rather suffer with nvidia

>>107780574
then don't buy novideo, retard.

>>107780574
works fine for me. works better infact, then it did when i had an AMD card. used to be that you could install the radeon graphics drivers, or ROCM - but not both. maybe that's not the case anymore.

>>107804199
LMAO imagine being cucked by your OS

>>107804288
huh? you're the one buying broken garbage locked by software.
stop projecting your fetishes on others, you sick fuck.

>>107804298
Works fine in Windows. HMMM.

>>107780597
hardware always comes first.

>>107804288
If you're on Windows, you're the ultimate cuck

>>107804412
Why? Because your shit works and you don't have to pick your hardware depending on your OS or deal with shit like >>107802219
Windows is free, you can literally steal it from Microsoft and runs your shit on the hardware you want

>>107780574
Who cares about Nvidia? They're about to leave consumer market.

>>107780888
>It doesn't matter whose fault it is.
Well it mattered for me when I ordered 9070xt instead of whatever competing shit nvidia had.

>>107803487
Yep, that's about all consumer you'll get from now on. As for GPU you have iGPU in your CPU with hardware video decoding capabilities.

>>107780574
What I do not understand about the "nvidia does not support linux" is that nvidia on the datacenter side only supports linux.

>>107804512
For me mattered more the fact that I can use my Nvidea GPU for photo and video work.

Almost switched my 3090 to a 9070xt on black Friday, but didn't wanna spend the money. Even though I could have mostly made it all back because it's a FE. I'll just coast, dx12 penalty and all.

>>107780574
why dont they have this? are u telling me the ai megafarms are running windows server?

>>107804425
>or deal with shit like >>107802219
The fuck are you talking about retard? Are zoomers really so computer illiterate that they get filtered by a system information panel KEK

>>107806609
Well they're not using Geforce gaming drivers.

>used nvidia cards for years
>changed for amd because of 24gb vram and the shilling
>amd cards suck on linux and everything uses cuda
amd spends way too much money on shills

>>107807274
Amazing, how the fuck are AI jeets this clueless about the software they use? Most tech illiterate group of people on the planet, I reckon.