Why are all FOSS note-taking apps so bad at editing text richly, while MicroSlop Winjeet Notes does it seamlessly?Editing paragraph spacing seems to be the hardest thing for open source developers, while M$ does that with 3 clicks.You have to overwrite some CSS hidden in the options.Copying between these apps also screws formatting up, e.g. in LibreOff Writer, while it works fine in Word.Things like adding line breaks via Replace, also don't work.
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>>107782162Have you tried Obsidian? It is the only note taking solution you need.
>>107783435It's proprietary though.Honestly, most of the OS ones work, too.But it's hilarious (and infuriating) what basic creature comforts are missing almost universally.
>>107782162OneNote is literally (and I mean literally) the only note taking app that can do tables and rich text properly and intuitively.All the other programs are markdownslop. Like>DUUUUUUUUDE it can do LE MARKDOWN it does everything you want ZOMGMy only gripe with it is that its search feature is non-existent. Like, it is so bad you're better off considering it as such because this piece of shit isn't going to find what you're looking for. The UI is fine, but the feature doesn't work.>>107783435Markdownslop. It's only useful if you do very basic editing with little formatting.
>>107783494>It's proprietary though.If only that was its biggest disadvantage.
>>107783505>markdown>mathjax>code blocksliterally what more do you need for taking notesother programs exist if you want actual formatted documents
>>107783986>autistic mathfag can't imagine how other people could ever need actual formatting features that he doesn't needYeah, this is why so many FOSS programs suck ass.
>>107783986Limited formatting options mean that readability suffers, which is a huge problem for notes that you are presumably going to reread or skim.Put yourself in the shoes of a user who is used to having formatting at a single finger-move as a given - massive annoyance. Deal breaker. I am not sure how all of these devs just pretend that it's a non-issue.Add to that the broken copy-paste scenarios from the OP.I once switched apps just to have a font size menu.
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>>107782162Microsoft killed OneNote with the new version of a notepad. Rich text is for faggots
>>107785177>>N>IG
>>107785330>>>N>>I>GG
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>>107782162Because you’re comparing a locked-down, single-purpose frontend that cheats in every way it can to a bunch of community tools that are trying not to paint themselves into a corner.Windows Notes feels “seamless” because it barely does anything. It controls the entire stack, targets one OS, one rendering engine, one clipboard path, and one narrow feature set. Of course paragraph spacing is three clicks when the app quietly stores everything in its own opaque format and never has to care whether that text survives contact with anything else. It’s smooth because it’s shallow.Most FOSS note apps deliberately don’t go all-in on rich text because rich text is a swamp. The moment you commit to “real” formatting, you’re now in HTML/CSS hell, clipboard incompatibilities, cross-platform rendering bugs, and user data that becomes fragile the second it leaves your app. That’s why many of them choose Markdown or lightly structured text: it’s boring, but it doesn’t rot.LibreOffice vs Word is the same story. Word “works” because it’s the de facto standard and everyone else has to reverse-engineer its behavior. LibreOffice actually tries to respect open formats and standards, which means it can’t rely on undocumented hacks or special-case behavior. When formatting breaks, it’s usually because Word never played fair to begin with.And the CSS thing isn’t developers being incompetent, it’s them refusing to hard-code UI assumptions that explode the moment you change themes, fonts, DPI, or platform. Microsoft can say “this is how it works, deal with it.” FOSS projects can’t.If anything, Notes is the bad model here: pleasant until you need to leave the garden. Open-source tools are rougher, sure, but your data is yours, your workflow isn’t hostage to a product manager, and when something is missing, it’s at least fixable in principle. I’ll take awkward spacing over a polished dead end any day.
>>107786281>programs that do their job correctly are bad actually
Just use Org Mode in Emacs
>>107786281thanks chatgpt>>107782162drop your 'notetaking' it's a longstanding fad from 10+ years ago. the second brain thing is retarded, that's what ai is for
>>107788854You can link your second brain to AI. Obsidian and NotebookLM or whatever AI you use is unbeatable.
I just don't understand rich text in notetaking. Seems like a waste of time, but most people's notetaking usually seems that way to me. I just need= Header =- indented dashes - outlining scopes of thingsA whole paragraph about why you can use indented dashes to outline the scope of a concept would normally go here.[[https://wikipedia.org/indenting-a-hyphen.php | article about indented dashes]][[file://~/.indented-dash.jpg | picture of an indented dash]]Vimwiki is literally perfect, since most of my "notes" are plans, and you can just have links to any material that the note-taking syntax is too retarded for.
>>107782162The core of OneNote was created before Microsoft jeeted itself. The people who created it are no longer there. It's just a matter of time before it gets jeeted too. They already have been killing off some of the older niche version of the program. Eventually it will be Electron in the Cloud with most of the old core functionality broken.
microslo worth piriting>2017 onenote>2017 visio>2017 word>2017 excelDONE
>>107782162plain text note taking is all you need.
note taking without pen input is completely useless
>>107789903>>107791231You can do it in plain text.But being able to add further visual elements, such as colors and a variety of additional symbols, or even handwriting, makes it much easier to organize and use. Again, it's incredible that some people do not understand that.I can surely drive some second hand Soviet shitbox, but I would always prefer a newer, better car instead.
>>107793064>Again, it's incredible that some people do not understand that.you know what else is also incredible? that some people can't grasp this isn't true for everyone:>I can surely drive some second hand Soviet shitbox, but I would always prefer a newer, better car instead.
>>107793105Yes, but we are going into fringe cases.The majority of people who use note-taking SW and organizers prefer to have one click options to stylize it and make it easier to read.That's directly related to the core purpose of the program. And many of these alternative apps have paid versions that do not provide these core benefits either.
>>107793271/g/ is a fringe case
OneNote is all great until you have to do ink annotations
>>107786281kill yourself plz
>>107782162OneNote is garbage at conflict resolution.
>>107786281>playing nice with other software through generic interop, even though you're not actually targeting interop as a feature, is more important than the actual software features themselvesReally faggot?
>>107782162notes.text + ssh + eMacs/vim/nanowhat more could you possibly need?
>>107782162take the org pill
>>107793816idk, I use onenote to organize my class and student administration with PDFs, tables, pictures, text. It needs to be fast, reliable and cross platform and preferably work online as well (since I use school computers too to work).I also use it to organise the renovations around the house. With the same requirements. There is no alternative that can do it as quick and seamless as onenote. I'm also sharing a notebook with my boyfriend (male). >>107793393I found it to be pretty good desu. I've had more problems with Apple Notes. >>107793308Which program works better? Because I have found non. Apple notes crashes a lot when annotating PDFs, that plugin for obsidian is gimmicky as fuck. Didn't try the other stuff.
>>107793064>or even handwritingThat's just absurd. What are you keeping notes on? The papers you pilfer from your neighbor's trash? Why do you need that in your notes, directly? It's on a computer.
