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Prev: >>107778785
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Manuel just made a post on the geforce forums saying Preset K is unchanged.
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>tfw still stuck at home with no car or card at my disposal
>couldn't buy before it was over and I still can't go outside and buy
>almost everything out of stock or up in price now
I'm so fucking tired of this humiliation ritual.
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40 and 50 series - Use Preset M
20 and 30 series - Keep using Preset K
Use Preset L if using Ultra Performance

That's it. No need to overcomplicate things.
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>>107782379
uber/public transport your ass to micro center, lots of stock there
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>you're a jeet for supporting nvidia!!!
>no U, for hating on nvidia!!!
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>>107782422
I'M NOT LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES ANYMORE I'M LIVING IN THE SUBURBS OF SOME EASTERN EUROPEAN CITY
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>>107782432
You need to ROPE right now. Holy shit
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>>107782356
he did not https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/user/15/
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>>107782334
I had a beast of a rig with a 9900x, 9070xt, 96gb ddr5 ram, etc. (the rest of the parts were still like $500) back in August before I lost my job and had to sell my stuff to pay rent.

Fuck bros... I barely got rehired and won't have a pc like that again for a long while
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>>107782411
>be nvidia
>run hotter
>run louder
>stutter more
>cost more
>games look worse than linux PACMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKx9TewMaMw
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Canadian welfare check didn't get sent.

Someone call the socialized wahbulance.
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Just compare the .dll file? wtf is going on, why are we relying on eye tests.
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4080 super or 5070ti?
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>>107782507
3090
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>he's still on DDR4
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>>107782507
Given DLSS 4.5 just got released, 5070Ti.
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>>107782489
You don't "need" a PC like that. A 5600g will suffice, you can play Diablo 2, Factorio, pretty much all emulators. What are you missing out on?
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>he's still on DDR4
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I spit on sub 4K DLSS users.
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What NVIDIA app settings do you guys use? I have: RTX HDR on, fixed refresh, and prefer maximum performance.
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>>107782548
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>>107782507
its the same card
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>>107782526
I also had a 34-inch oled ultragear monitor. Fml. I used to play at 1440p native with games like Elden Ring, Monster Hunter, Dead by Daylight, etc.

I was honestly running out of fun gaming honestly.
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Arc Pro B50 for $470 or Arc Pro B60 for $860? Are these GPUs even good for anything like Stable Diffusion at all compared to their NVIDIA counterparts or am I better off buying a 3090?
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>>107782555
Does that DLSS override setting matter? Wouldn't latest be the default anyway?
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>>107782587
Yeah, It's usually just set to "latest", however I was testing some stuff with 4.5.
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>>107782567
XD
the 3090 trounces it in compute performance UNLESS you are doing fp64 which somehow this card manages to not be gimped in
honestly I don't even know who this GPU is for given how outdated the performance is
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gsync pulsar sirs
https://youtu.be/SXwXGYhi8_I
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>9850X3D
you ready for a ZERO PERCENT increase in Battlefield 6?
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>>107782619
Great another thing no monitor will have in 2026 like hardware gsync modules
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>>107782619
>>107782563
i look forward to the 4k 240hz oleds being rereleased with gsync pulsar in the second half of the year for twice the price
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He has spoken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rnjawJ_QDc
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>>107782624
Why are you playing CoDfield 6 anyway? If you're a true BF fan you stopped playing after 4/1. Even though 1 was clearly a Battlefront asset flip and anyone that says otherwise is a fucking idiot or dumb naive zoomer who can't 2+2.
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>>107782548
RTX HDR is bad. RenoDX HDR mods are a better fix for single player games.
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>>107782619
What happened to auo optronics? They need to make a 480 hz ips panel and throw pulsar on it.
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>>107782657
Sorry let me boot up F1 2025. ONE PERCENT INCREASE!
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Are we going to see 24GB mods on the 5070 Ti, 4070 Ti Super, 4080, 5080 become a common modder shop service?
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>he bought bitcoin over 10 years ago
>he bought RAM before last year
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>>107782713
who cares
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>>107782713
24gb mods are a waste of time. they're doing 48gb 5080s and 4090s.
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>>107782675
Killed by the mainland like most Taiwanese LCD producers.
Good riddance honestly.
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>>107782744
>48gb 5080
Impossible
You'd need 4gb chips
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>>107782624
normies getting duped not knowing mhz on poozen doesnt matter

>>107782643
and it looks like its worse than 500hz strobed so whats the fucking point
havent watched with audio yet
its over

>>107782644
you cant strobe oled you can bfi
some shit like that
not gonna happen
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>>107782643
It's just backlight strobing
The fact Nvidia needs to be involved in this "tech" makes me think 90% of monitor vendors are incompetent
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>>107782510
>>107782520
>>107782557
I ask, because I could get a new 5070 ti from a retailer, or buy a sealed 4080 super
I dont really care for fake frames unless its absolutely necessary
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Some clarifications:

Preset M is the "Latest" preset for all modes. Can be used with all DLSS modes. Quality and Balanced as well as Performance and even Ultra Performance.

Preset L is optimized for Ultra Performance mode and you can use this to see if you like it more than Preset M when using Ultra Performance Mode

From NVIDIA:

Available Now:

With today’s NVIDIA app beta update, all GeForce RTX users can experience the new DLSS 4.5 Super Resolution model in over 400 titles. Simply select “DLSS Override feature - Model Presets” in the Graphics tab, and choose “Latest”. This sets our new Model M across all modes. You can also try out Model L under “Custom”, which is optimized for Ultra Performance Mode at 4K. Ultimately, you decide which balance of image quality and performance is right for your PC.
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rom official nvidia documentation that says L and M are for performance and ultra performance while K got updated and is the default for anythinb above performance mode https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/blob/main/doc/DLSS_Programming_Guide_Release.pdf
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>>107782334
wtf gigabyte
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dlss preset m is dogshit. nvidia lie again and again
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>>107782822
ebin
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>>107782815
that's not what your image says at all, pajeet
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>>107782432
I am sorry for your loss :(
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>>107782834
>jeet that cant read calling me a jeet
lmao
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youtube has mid live stream ads now? unwatchable
maybe u can watch it ad free not sure
literally terrible interrupting live streams holy fuck
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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-dlss-4-5-costs-2-3-performance-on-rtx-50-rtx-20-30-may-be-hit-with-20-drops

OFFICIAL
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Am I really supposed to believe theres AI datacenters running 14 brands of shitty rgb GAMER SNIPER XXX ram in their servers right now. this is such a fake price gouging scam
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>>107782862
you stupid nigger the videocardz guy is just reading reddit posts
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>>107782845
I mean, you just can't read english if you think this says >>107782815 Performance and Ultra Performance are for L and M only.

Which directly contradicts the DLSS 4.5 announcement page which states L is for tuned for 4k Ultra performance, and M is for all presets.
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>>107782871
which is based on an official document from nvidia https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/blob/main/doc/DLSS_Programming_Guide_Release.pdf

YOU LOST LMAO
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>ryzen 5 1600
>16 gb ram 2133mhz
>gtx 1070
>lossless scaling to run most new games even ones that look like shit
how many weeks for the ai bubble to pop?
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>>107782815
lol are you retarded
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Preset M and L are more computationally expensive than previous presets which is why Nvidia is claiming they can be used on Perf or Ultra Perf. Compared to Preset K they should produce significantly better image quality at a significant cost on < 40 series GPUs. Preset K was not updated and can be used if you do not prefer the performance hit from the new modes.
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>>107782883
should be no more than 2 weeks
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>>107782876
the ofiicial announcement page is written by a retarded interm using chatgpt is a press realease while the gihub document is done by the engineering team and can be actually be proven if you were an nvidia user instead of a dirty jeet using aymd
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>>107782619
BATTLENONSENSEPULSARNOMOREBLUR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6-EQoCJVFk

>>107782883
no one is coming to save you
waitfagging is dead, moneymaxxing up
flip those burgers, sell your ass, kneepads, whatever
GET TO THE MONEY - NOW
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>>107782883
until ww3
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>>107782912
you can stop embarrasing yourself now
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>>107782868
The idea is that consumer DRAM is being fabbed less.
What the retards want you to believe however is that these changes are instantaneous and retail prices have zero to do with retailers basically scalping because they have an excuse.

Same thing with DRAM spot prices jumping "only" 50% a few months ago while kits doubled or tripled.
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The 2nd gen. DLSS Super Resolution transformer model is optimized for FP8; older cards like RTX 20 and 30 lack native FP8 hardware support.
That explains the performance penalty discussed in earlier threads.
The new super-resolution model uses 5x compute resources than the original transformer model.
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Funny how everyone that is testing DLSS 4.5 with preset K can notice the difference right away https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-591-74-whql-driver.458947/page-8
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>>107782334
Is that a Y60 case?
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>>107782927
You are using a reddit mod and nvidia press release made by chatgpt as a some sort of gotcha over an official gihub documentation and people actually testing it lmao
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>>107782932
Seems like the true winners here are 4080/4090 owners
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>>107782927
>shill is a also a reddit tranny

imagine my shock
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>>107782960
Those forum autists will pretend to see a difference even when nvidia hasn't announced anything and convince themselves there was a shadow update to make things better overnight.
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>>107782960
that reddit mod literally works for Nvidia
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>>107782981
RTX 20 & 30 series card owners got over 5 years of super resolution upgrades (counting the first gen transformer model).
No one else in the industry offered this level of hardware support.
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>48hz minimum strobing firmware update gonna ship to that pulsar monitor
60hz gamers rise up
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reading comprehension was supposed to be taught in schools
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>120hz

woah finally, was it really that hard?
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no wonder my gpu hotspot was 99c
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https://x.com/harukaze5719/status/2008497833205526867
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this whole debacle is really exposing a lot of third worlders isn't it
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LMAO
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I bought a 800€ 240hz 4k oled monitor while my GPU is a 3080
im retarded
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>all these reddit screencaps

man fuck off go discuss that shit over there
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>>107783058
From that thread
> I'm using M on Quality and it is also a step up over K in both motion clarity and fine detail. Well worth the small performance impact on the 4070.

> I don’t know what’s up with people recommending preset K for quality when preset M is clearly better.
> It has the same motion clarity as K, but it handles aliasing much better. It also fixes the pixelation and blocky issues with volumetric fog effects.
> The amount of misinformation here is crazy.

> Op is wrong, I trust my eyes more than Reddit. I notice M having better image quality as well. I just force M on nvidia app and play like this.

Not to mention the Mod post saying OP is just a moron and is wrong.
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>>107783038
Damn, even the 5080 is leaving the 4080 in the dust with half as much ms penalty as the older gpu
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>>107783073
your inability to read owns you again pajeet
we do not accept your concession, kys etc
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how much less would you sell a gpu with a broken hdmi port? my brother tried jamming a displayport into the hdmi port of my 4070
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>>107783038
Reminder that pic is the cost to run the real FSR4 model (image quality/reproduction parity) on a 7900 XTX.
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>>107783097
im not him i dont even know what you retards are crying about, but whatever it is, you have to go back
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>>107783067
>im retarded
Yes, should have stuck with 1440. At least you can use DLSS to get good frames at 4k, and honestly depends a lot on what games you play
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People are finally waking up to the QD OLED meme
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LMAO X2
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>>107783115
perhaps I splurge on a 5080ti or 5080? to celebrate the new year
I had this revelation last month, I'm in my 30s now and I might have a well-paying job but living in the middle of Western Europe I'll never be able to afford a house
so why shouldn't I just buy stuff that improves the fun in my life outside of work instead of hoarding it for no reason
god I hate everything
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>>107783109
AMDoes what Nvidia dont.
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>>107783141
amd still cant do ray tracing though
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>>107783133
Nvidia themselves said K hasn't been changed.

J and K were Transform model 1
L and M are Transform model 2

M is the new default for EVERYTHING unless you're doing 4k ultra performance, then you want to use L.
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>>107783151
I like how this goes against Nvidia's own documentation. Of course nobody is stopping you from using it with P/UP modes but documentation literally says that K is default for DLAA/Q/B while L and M intended for both Performance modes.
Like FFS ask some engineer who knows how DLSS works to write a tl;dr on the actual feature usage at the bottom of all this marketing crap page.
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>>107783154
why are you spamming images from guru3d and copying posts word for word? are you that retarded?
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>>107783157
Because you keep spamming that Preset K is not changed, stop doing so and i'll stop
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>>107783154
btw it doesn't go against nvidia's documentation, each preset defaults to whatever is the best cost/performance ratio for your quality setting. k being the default for dlaa-balanced doesn't mean it's inherently better and you need to learn how to read
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I remember when PC nerds used to make fun of consoles and their ineptitude of rendering 4k and coping with checkerboard or whatever.
How the turntables have turned
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>>107783154
But that ISN'T what the documentation even says.
>>107782815
The ACTUAL verbage used is
> updated Section 3.12 with notes for Presets L, M and new defaults for Performance, Ultra Performance modes.


You're reading that as L and M are for Performance and Ultra Performance when it's ACTUALLY saying it added notes for L, M, and notes for Performance, and Ultra Performance.
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>>107783168
There is literally several posters with nvidia GPU's that have confirmed that preset K has been improved on specific situations, im sorry to tell you but you lost
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>>107783089
NVIDIA will continue to increase AI compute performance in GeForce GPUs because raster scales less.
The 5090 has over twice as many CUDA cores as the 5080 (21760 vs. 10752), but it's around 50% faster than the 5080 @ 4K native.
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>>107783032
the chip looks fine tho?
the memory looks kinda bad. almost like it was bruned
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>>107783187
See >>107782991

Those retards can convince themselves of anything, without ACTUAL side by side comparisons I'm calling bullshit, especially since Nvidia hasn't said ANYTHING about the older presets getting updated.
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>>107783187
>-source : dude just trust me
go commit die
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>>107783187
they are literal whos posting about their "findings" on an unofficial forum. they dont work for nvidia nor should their irrelevant opinions be trusted. you can keep posting that but it doesn't change reality
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>>107783176
READ NIGGER READ
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>>107783226
the very same line about preset k says its less expensive than preset l meaning it is still using the older transformer model that is not as computationally expensive.
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>>107783203
wdym fine. a quarter of the chip has no thermal paste
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>>107783141
You don't seem to understand that running the official FSR 4 model on a 7900 XTX is as costly as running NVIDIA's 2nd-gen transformer model on a 2080 Ti.
That's pathetic. Absolute trash.
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>>107783226
Holy shit, you really are retarded.

Are you that OP on reddit too? Lmao, you're just a fear-mongering, illiterate retard.
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>>107783235
no it says that both models got updated
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>>107783247
there is literally not a single line anywhere that says preset K was updated
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>>107783240
>default preset K
i accept your concession you dumb jeet
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will dlss4.5 be integrated in the next driver update?
or are you forced to use the app until the 60 series comes out with dlss5?
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>>107783252
>he accepts K is still default preset for DLSS 4.5 above performance mode
i accept your concession
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>>107783237
the part that is missing should be on the heat sink. no?
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>>107783267
i think you need to go back to school
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why the fuck are oled monitors still overpriced 27 inches cost more than full size tvs
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>>107783278
So you can think? maybe learn to read
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>>107783260
Game devs need to update their titles to use the new DLSS models if you don't want to use other apps to apply them.
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>>107783260
>>107783288
and this is the case with most games, you have to mod the shit because the devs are too lazy. even when the bother with official implementation they half ass it and it looks worse the optiscalers own preset done by community.
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>>107783267
No, the Nvidia app forces M over K even when using Balanced/Quality because the new model is so much higher performance, even if M is officially tuned for "Performance" DLSS mode.

> In the NVIDIA App, selecting "Latest" currently forces Preset M across all modes (including Quality/DLAA) because it's considered the most advanced general-purpose model.
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>>107783038
>nigger shits on amd gayscaling because muh non-current gen pernalty is big
>green gayscaling is even worse but since no one mentions such tests it never happened
and now hes getting exposed itt because he cant fucking read
this is the saviour of /pcbg/ btw
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>>107783268
no. i repasted it and its running 10c cooler
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https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.1/

post your score & specs
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>>107783253
That's only for RTX 20/30 series cards, if you do the manual override to set the Nvidia app to use the "Latest" transform model, it defaults to M.
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>>107783312
Actually that's wrong, anon. If you change the quality mode to Balanced+ in the nv app, the preset will be forced to K (old transformer model). I think this is because the performance hit at balanced+ is too big for the new model, so it reverts to the older one that still looks good.
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>>107783315
>>green gayscaling is even worse
You are the illiterate one; there's a reason AMD hasn't officially released FSR4 on older cards >>107783109
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does it matter if I buy a 2600mhz or a 2500mhz 5070ti? I can just OC them myself right? or can you OC the 2600 ones even higher with no problems
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why does he keep on posting literal who comments as (((facts)))?
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>>107783354
it dont matter and yes
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>>107783337
Because you're overriding the override. Using Balanced+ forces the app to use an Nvidia quality preset, which right now the preset for that game uses the DLSS K preset.


That's basically just a day 1 bug, you should be using preset M for the highest quality.
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>>107783288
>>107783301
well fuck this in that case.
was kinda hyped but if you have to jump through hoops for a half assed solution it's not worth it.
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>>107783315
>this is the saviour of /pcbg/ btw
What the hell are you talking about loony troon?
My favorite part of this thread is how whenever you participate the quality goes from bad to jigaboo-hell tier
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I need a 1440p monitor with low input lag for moving my mouse around and a very low minimum brightness. What are my options?
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>>107782952
So what is the big deal about this driver stuff?
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>>107783397
idk, how about you do 5 minutes of your own research and come back with a more specific question
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why does he call anything he doesnt like tranny, poorfag, third world or /pol/?
does he have something hidden on his closet?
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>>107783397
samsung g5
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>>107783397
https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-Speakers-FreeSync-HDMI2-0-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0DK4J3SKT
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>>107783395
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>>107783140
>I had this revelation last month, I'm in my 30s now and I might have a well-paying job but living in the middle of Western Europe I'll never be able to afford a house
Same issue here in the US although the market is correcting (thank fuck) so things are *only* 50% over valued now!

>perhaps I splurge on a 5080ti or 5080? to celebrate the new year
Just find a 5090 at MSRP and say fuck it, in for $1400 on a 5080 might as well bump in a smidge more for a proper good card for when nvidia quits selling consumer GPUs entirely
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QRD on why this monitor is going to retail for almost 3k?
Is there really a high premium on hardware calibration?
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>>107783446
>is for creative professionals
thats why
they're paying extra for color accuracy and certifications
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJdGjRGGU70

IS UP
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Preset M and L are objectively worse in MHWilds. Tons of shimmering textures. Lots of flickering. Oversharpened. Preset K is "smoother" and a bit blurrier but i think oerall it's better. I really hope they're not going to start adding new presets that are not better and just different. I don't need to juggle through a bunch of fucking presets everytime I want to play a game. Just make one better in all situations. You are a trillion dollar company, it should be possible.
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for linux gaming 9070xt or 5070 non ti (they are the same price on the used market here)? red seems the conventional linux choice but does dlss 4.5 tip the scales at all?
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>>107783446
>Is there really a high premium on hardware calibration?
It's panel quality

With retail consumer panels you play the panel lottery where MOST panels will have SOME dead/stuck pixels.
It's expected, and normal for almost EVERY brand new consumer monitor to have SOME pixel issues on the panel somewhere.

In the high-end color mastering space companies with "pro" lines will go panel shopping and pay 3-5x more to get a "perfect" panel to sell for $3-5K instead of selling that identical spec panel for $500-1000 in a regular consumer monitor.
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>>107783464
no FG would be 6ms
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>>107783446
>Is there really a high premium on hardware calibration?
Yes, just like what >>107783455 said

My friend thats a radiologist has to use some retarded (and shitty) certified displays that cost 4x the normal amount for the same reasons
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>>107783464
1.5ms of latency for ~70fps is a pretty solid tradeoff.
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>>107783473
irrelevant since nv driver support is ass on linux
youre free to try whatever you want
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>>107783469
>MHWilds
Game dev issue.
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>>107783469
>I really hope they're not going to start adding new presets that are not better and just different.
thats exactly what they're doing.
these presets are for different game types.
quality may look better or worse on the title.
for example do not play anime games with DLSS because Nvidia does not care to train for them and the results show as ghosting
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>>107783473
Get the 9070 XT for Linux.
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best thermal paste for gpus?
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>>107783473
Linux isn't for video games
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>>107783517
Semen
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>>107783517
hellmans
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>>107783517
ptm7950
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>>107783067
nah native monitor res has nothing to do with your gpu

>>107783115
>Yes, should have stuck with 1440
retarded move

>>107783140
10-100x on stonks and escape the matrix unironically
but before that, buy pc hardware with whatever you have left over so you can go back to flipping burgers harder from the dopamine hit you get in your spare time
>hoarding
communism buzzword

>>107783131
what meme it has better color reproduction
they fixed the subpixels on pc now too
might be non eye raping now

>>107783174
using high ppi your forget how shit low ppi looks until you go back to and it and holy shit its bad
anything below 140 is honestly not even human anymore

>>107783397
540hz ohled
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>>107783517
Phase change pads (Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet or PTM7950).
KryoSheet can also work, but it's electrically conductive (use kapton tapes to protect the SMDs near the GPU die).
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>>107783504
when in January is the steam patch coming out?
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>>107783568
late january but the only big one is the adding of LODs to meshes. that should actually improve performance on potato pcs quite a bit
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>>107783568
Probably around the 3rd week.
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>>107783580
>>107783584
cool I'll finally buy the game if they fix it
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>>107783280
you are one step closer to being tv pilled
either buy on steep sales or you get fucked yeah
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Preset M fucking sucks and is an oversharpened slopfest
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>>107783672
I was looking at my local best buy and a samsung 55 inch after promo and card deal is like $700. 27 inch oled nearby is same price. its ridiculous.
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>>107783687
We can tell you don't own a GeForce card; you don't have to keep up with this charade.
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>>107783735
Right
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>>107783687
thats how I feel about the new DLSS modes, they look oversharpened. its probably great for TVs but its terrible up close.
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>>107783763
I think I'm just going to keep using K
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valve removed the 9070 from the steam hardware survey https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
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https://youtu.be/SJdGjRGGU70?t=261 i will say though, this is pretty impressive. I noticed how really small details were lost with dlss 4 just a few days ago and now that's fixed with 4.5.
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>>107783745
DLSS sharpening filter's been deprecated for over three years. Larp more.
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>>107782334
>Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.
qrd on this?
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>>107783699
Its almost like its hard to scale down the production to fit the same pixel density in a fraction of the space. Add into that thermal considerations and its even harder.

You cannot interchange a 55" TV for a 27" monitor for a million reasons and everyone comparing the two like its apples to apples are absolutely retarded
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5070 Already top 10 at #8

5070 = 4090 really worked
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Can a 5080 actually run modern games at 1080p / 60+ fps with only real frames and no upscaling?
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>>107783699
americans cant suffer you can get open box S95 samsung oleds for sub 800$ at bestbuy

first rule of tvs is never buy non oled, you are NOT going to enjoy that smear shit

>>107783804
>You cannot interchange a 55" TV for a 27" monitor for a million reasons and everyone comparing the two like its apples to apples are absolutely retarded
4x the physical product for same or more price, you absolutely can
a 27" 4k oled should cost 400$ to be price competitive
simple as
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>>107783801
ASrock AM5 boards disproportionately kill X3D cpus, but its still a tiny % of any reported issues with the processors-- it happens on other brands too. It is also something no one 3rd party has been able to recreate (or will admit to knowing the cause of) from either ASrock or AMD
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>>107783826
modern games run with DLSS and Frame Generation
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>>107783817
Not surprising considering the availability issues of the RX 9070 @ $500, and the 9060 XT being inferior to the 5060 Ti.
AMD never wanted to sell the RX 9070 at that $500 price point.
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>>107783831
>4x the physical product for same or more price, you absolutely can
Thats not how engineering works, but keep pretending it does. I will keep laughing at the smoothbrain ignorant takes for the likes of you and anyone else shilling TVs as a monitor replacement.
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I'm seeing a lot of 5070ti/5060ti 16gb running out of stock now
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>>107783826
sure
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OOOOH MSI COMING OUT SWINGING FOR THE MSI LIGHTNING 5090
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>>107783853
Those two cards are the most likely ones to be discontinued by NVIDIA because of the memory chip shortages.
NVIDIA can make more money selling the 5080 with the same VRAM capacity as the 5070 Ti.
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>>107783817
And this was a month where the chinese and net caffes were under sampled by 2%, expect some massive gains next month if they correct that
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>>107783817
its the poorfag card
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>>107783864
oh yay just what we need, another 3rd party monitoring software
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*cough* why didn't I... *cough*... boughted the turdee neinty... *cough cough*
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>>107783880
hwinfo is obviously going to add support for this
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I've been doing monitor research for 2 month straight... There is no such thing as a perfect monitor...
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THE MSI LIGHTNING 5090

ONLY 1300 BEING MADE

DUAL 12V-2X6

OUT NEXT MONTH
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>>107783895
it's $6,500 lol
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>>107783817
it's the only thing people can afford at $700
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>>107783884
the best part is nvidia has no concept of swap on linux. it just crashes. amd will continue by just offloading what cant fit in vram into ram.
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>>107783832
is MSI any better?
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>>107783894
Congrats bra I'm at 6 months research in and they just launched all new monitors
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>>107783894
You would've realized this before the 1-hour mark of your monitor research.
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>>107783910
Anyone is better than the AssRock murderboards they are having to slash prices on
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>>107783864
B-but Nvidia doesn't allow 2x 12vhpwr connectors, it'll make the FE look bad!!
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>>107783910
Should be fine, so is any other manufacturer. Realistically the odds of you having issues with even ASrock are minimal already. Generally pick the chipset and I/O features you want (m.2 slot capacity, USB, etc) and go from there
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KINGPIN'S GONNA BE PISSED MSI SAID THEY WEREN'T DOING XOC SHIT

I wonder what changed their mind got tired of Asus' dickswinging probably
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>>107783926
>ONLY 1300 BEING MADE
Limited production models only. It was the same for the HOF XOC edition card.
Always one step behind, always overrating yourself.
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>>107783945
Kingpin doesn't matter; all he does is jack up the manufacturing cost of the XOC products.
Illya "TiN" Tsemenko was the one behind the engineering designs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2dqHqlyWio
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>>107783947
You can show me in the Nvidia documention where 2 connectors arent allowed unless you only make an a low arbitrary number of them
You won't tho
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>>107783926
Galax gets it for their HOF shit, and NVIDIA is even letting the FE pcb get used by others now.
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>buy expensive QD-OLED
>"yo bro it's flawless, no burn-in anymore"
>gets permanent image retention instead after a few months thanks to the buggy ASUS "OLED care" software
Never listen to /p(iss)cbg/
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>>107783991
I doubt it's the actual fe PCB
More just the aibs implementation of the concept
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>>107783989
>You can show me in the Nvidia documention where 2 connectors arent allowed unless you only make an a low arbitrary number of them
>You won't tho
No one but board partners have those docs and it would be in their production contracts. You think nvidia just publishes ANY of that publicly? LMAO
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PCIE GEN 6 WHEN
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>>107784011
Then you cant prove shit about it being "not allowed"
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>>107783989
I don't have to, because the products that are available in the market support my claim.
Go ahead and find that NVIDIA reference guideline that claims board partners can use 2x 12V-2x6 connectors for a 600W power-limited GeForce card.
Until then, you are my bitch.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rnjawJ_QDc
Unironically buying an AMD GPU has to be some kind of humiliation ritual. Thank fuck I ascended to 5070 Ti godhood lmao
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>>107784023
CES and AMD have NOTHING to show gamers except some 8 core cpu OC'd to get an extra 3% for another $500

Meanwhile RTX FINE WINE GODKINGS just gain more and more wins #BLESSED #KINGSHIT
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that has to be trolling bot
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its kind of funny that all amd showed was a slightly better binned 9800x3d that'll probably still explode in less than a year
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>>107784022
I see a card with 2x 12vhpwr
So they can be made
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>>107784007
Hope their warranty service is better for monitors than literally any other product they make (i.e. not like pulling teeth)
>>107784020
>Then you cant prove shit about it being "not allowed"
I'm not the guy that claimed it was barred, but neither of you have a concrete claim one way or another
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https://youtu.be/SXwXGYhi8_I

2 YEARS NVIDIA

WHY DID IT TAKE TWO FUCKING NIGVIDIA

AND WHERE THE FUCK IS REFLEX 2??????
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>>107784064
>So they can be made
That was never the argument; those are privileged designs for limited edition, overclocking cards.
You won't see a 5090 Ventus with 2x 12V-2x6 power connectors.
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>>107784087
Assert proof they are "privileged" and are exceptions in the documentation
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>>107784007
qd-oled is a no go because of text fringe
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>>107784057
amd had jackshit to show. they didnt even show the 9600x3d thats supposed to come out.
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>>107784007
>i bought a bomb
>wtf it exploded
what did he mean by this
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>>107784105
The products that are available in the market are proof.
ASUS TUF 5090 would be a great candidate to use 2x 12V-2x6 power connectors (military/reliability theme) if NVIDIA allowed ASUS to make that board design.
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>>107783868
5070ti prices went retarded anyways, half the time they're marked up so much that there's no reason to not just get a 5080
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>>107783520
it can be though? i dont want to use microslop software, and linux is fine for gaming now.
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>>107784111
Unironically there's no visible fringing on the latest gen. You do get image retention instead (i.e. OLED "care" overcompensating wear).
Instead of hardware failure you get software bugs now because OLED needs tons of gimmicks to grab a few more months of lifespan.
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>>107784130
>ASUS TUF 5090 would be a great candidate to use 2x 12V-2x6 power connectors (military/reliability theme)
Its their budget SKU line (contrary to what ASUS crack pipe priced them at), and would be a retarded choice to put juiced power delivery on
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>>107784001
Imagine the coil whine.
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>>107783852
>Thats not how engineering works
not my problem, that's manufacturers problem

>I will keep laughing at the smoothbrain ignorant takes for the likes of you and anyone else shilling TVs as a monitor replacement.
just buy a 77" and enjoy real hdr
obviously not ideal for more situations, especially now that the pixelmatrix on monitors are fixed soon

I also shill monitors

>>107783894
first rule of displays, every display is shit
xg27ucwm or a pg32ucmd3 are easy buys however

>>107784007
remember who complained about buggy oled firmware on monitors? It was me
with that said, gotta update the firmware
alot of retards who get this use their monitor in some way that prevents it actually getting into pixel refresh with some fucky setting in windows or otherwise, so it never is off or idles correctly
user error also

>>107784080
the funny thing is nobody gonna buy this not even esportsfags that have moved on to oled

>>107784111
they fixed it with v stripe rgb now though
now is the time to buy
hopefully this version of qdoled does NOT rape eyes
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>>107784144
>budget SKU line
ASUS Prime is the budget/SFF SKU.
The 5090 doesn't have a budget SKU in ASUS's GPU lineup.

> and would be a retarded choice to put juiced power delivery on
Shows how little you know about ASUS's PCB design.
ASUS TUF boards consistently had overspecced VRMs relative to NVIDIA's reference guidelines.
That's why some 4090 TUF could XOC extremely well with modded BIOS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDXPfIVvs1w
The owner of that world-record-breaking 4090 TUF card killed it from overvoltage, not because of board power delivery deficiencies.

Stay in your little retard-corner.
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>>107784130
You're really assuming it's nvidia and not just AIB will
You really assume the absolute best behavior from AIBs and won't stray from that assumption
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>>107784168
I updated to the latest firmware, didn't do shit. Maybe I should flash it again.
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>>107784173
>ASUS Prime is the budget/SFF SKU.
>The 5090 doesn't have a budget SKU in ASUS's GPU lineup.
The TUF is the lowest of their 5090 stack so its the de facto 'budget' SKU

>ASUS TUF boards consistently had overspecced VRMs relative to NVIDIA's reference guidelines.
Which is meaningless for a 5090 unless they use out of spec BIOS to draw more, which is why youre only referencing a 4090.

YOU need to stay in your little retard-corner
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The perfect monitor doesn't ex-

>27″ 5K (5120×2880, 218 ppi)
>5K at 165Hz
>QHD at 330Hz
>MiniLED (2304 zones)
>DisplayHDR 1400
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>>107784183
If AIBs were allowed to use as many 12V-2x6 connectors in GeForce GPU PCBs (in standard edition/production models), at least one of them would have sold 1~2 models to stand out as the safer cards to buy.
It's common sense.
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I'm still on PCIE 3.0
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>>107784168
>xg27ucwm or a pg32ucmd3
I mostly want to play at 1080p because I have only a 5070Ti.

Which of these two is better? Can I just use lower resolution and then upscale at monitor or thru driver software? Would the dual mode benefit more for me since it's 1080p for gaming then swap back to 4K for desktop video/browsing?

I like 120Hz (current TN from 8 years ago but I hate the smear / does pulse lighting from blue busters BenQ years ago)
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>>107784214
16:9 tho, shame
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>>107784214
You don't need more than 1440p
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>>107784209
The 24-phase, 50A VRMs on the 5090 TUF can safely deliver more than enough power OC.
Even just assuming 35A effective capacity of those VRMs, we're talking over 800W of power delivery @ 1.05V.
Stay retarded.
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>>107784214
>only 2304 zones for 5k res
Dropped

I bet it doesnt even have DP 2.1
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>>107784265
it does.
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I bought some RAM back in August (a Corsair 2x48gb 6000mtz 30cl kit) for $311.
Its $1500 now.
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>>107784264
Why would they do ANY of that at the low end of their SKU stack though? Which is exactly what youre advocating for. If anything it would be on one of their astral models, and even then its such a retarded niche. There is a reason any of the crazy OC or XOC models cost a billion dollars and are made in tiny quantities, and its not just 'because the hardware can handle it'
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>>107784217
Two "safer" models are coming or already here (astral btf and now msi)
They drip feed these features because they make more money
If a basic gpu was shipped was 2 connectors they would loose out some on how much they can charge for the extreme high end models
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>>107784214
>only 5k
yawwwwn
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New PC builder. My rig is a 5090 with 9800x3D, why does my AIO sound like a mini jet engine when I play games? Is this normal I was console only for the last 5 years.
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>>107784281
>it does.
I can't read, kek. Its right on the display. My eyes glaze over on the marketing hype pages desu
>>107784310
Check your fan curves either in the BIOS or learn how to use FanControl
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>>107784214
Keeping my eye on this on
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So the only gaming related announcement was the new DLSS? Wow that sucks.
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>>107784296
>and now msi
That's a limited production model for XOC, the extra connector's mainly intended to increase the available total power.
Not a single 5090 card manufacturer released a 600W power-limited model with two 12V-2x6 just to improve the board's safety.
That was the original argument.

>>107784293
The point was to prove the TUF's PCB is overspecced for a 5090's 600W power loads.
The main risk is the 12V-2x6 power connector's ability to handle XOC power loads, not the board VRM's limitations.
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>>107784310
Use HWinfo to check your system temps. also what >>107784319 said.
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>>107784283
Congratulations you're a better investor than 99% of /biz/ now
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>>107784356
rejoice gamers
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>>107784377
53 celisus on average, 63 is the highest i’ve seen it.
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>>107784406
Take your poison: Blur or Ghosting.
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>>107784358
>That was the original argument.
That's the argument you made up so you can be "correct"
Regardless more GPUs are coming with more power connectors. Limited to highend/XoC for exclusivity purposes and not nvidia somehow "not allowing it" that's dumb
If nvidia was that strict they wouldn't allow the btf shit either, or the active current monitoring or hell even just making a card that's better than the FE
Isn't the idea that Nvidia would be "embarrassed" if cards came with two connectors? Why doesn't that extend to everything else?
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Pulsar has completely eliminated high refresh VRR flicker, OLED can't do that

OH NO NO NOLED
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>>107784168
>>107784406
Answer me you schizo posting tards >>107784236

I'm tired of trying to follow people who keep posting about monitors as they're worse than the Nicotroon at this point with the gaslighting and false representation and lack of details (like I'm supposed to know what model# you're talking about or know everything?)
Also "xg27ucwm" doesn't exist unless the M is a typo per google
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>>107784471
>Pulsar is IPS only
doa
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i don't even think nvidia knows what the correct answer is at this point
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>>107784471
CONTEXT YOU FUCKING SCHIZO FAGGOT
STOP POSTING RANDOM SHIT OUT OF CONTEXT
YOURE WORSE THAN THE GPU SCHIZOS HOLY SHIT
AT LEAST FILENAME THAT SHIT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A HUGE FAGGOT
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>>107784485
nvidias answer to performance mode is to throw sharpening on everything
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>>107784471
NOLEDS lost
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>>107784485
>umm you see the latest Preset is actually for poorfag performance mode which only thirdies use if you use Quality or DLAA then you should stick with last years tech in Preset K :)

DLSS 4.5 flopped bigly lmao
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the 6600xt sucks whenever i get close to 8GB of vram usage the fps tanks
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>>107784447
This was always the original argument, that 5090 cards should have two 12V-2x6 connectors at 575/600W power loads strictly for safety reasons.
All the other modified cards are advertising increased power limits.
That Astral BTF 5090 isn't replacing the older Astral 5090 model as the new standard.
Stay mad.
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Is it normal to pay like 900 euros for a 5070ti?
whenever I see msrp its always something like 750, but thats dollars, so im not sure if im getting scammed or not
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>>107784485
why the fuck did he say its for performance and then say m is superior to k
is everyone taking crazy pills today
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>>107784485
I TOLD YOU RETARDS, WHO IS THE JEET NOW
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>>107784559
>>107784549
still you lol
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>>107784539
>This was always the original argument,
When and where?
Your the only one wanting to qualify shit this hard
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>>107782334
Where's the Radeon fag?
Is he having a melty after DLSS 4.5 results came in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmA6T3ZLcAM
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>>107784561
M is meant for performance mode, you can use it on other modes and is a heavier model that K which make it "superior" in terms of sharpness but for any preset above performance you are better using DLSS 4.5 K which is a lighter model willl give you better native fps while still dealing with ghosting, volumetric fog and dissoclusions better than the old k preset
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i still dont understand what dlss is
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>>107784479
If you want a 1080 OLED your choices are one of the dual mode variants that does higher res and then can be swapped to the lower 1080 at higher refresh rates. I forget the exact models, but check this list: https://www.displayninja.com/w-oled-monitor-list/

Filter by refresh rate for models with the + 1080p <Hz here>
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>>107784595
K is still 4.0
M is 4.5
L is 4.5
L is the most resource heavy and looks the best
M is less resource heavy and looks about as good
K and the rest remain unchanged.
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My 15 year old logi ultrax died. What's today's equivalent? I don't need anything fancy.
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>>107784565
Then I guess I'm the only one who remembers this original argument accurately.
It was borne out of the opinion that all 5090 cards should have a second 12V-2x6 connector strictly for safety reasons, not for added performance.
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DIRECTLY FROM NVIDIA'S MOUTH
WE CAN PUT THIS ARGUMENT TO REST
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>>107784614
K is not 4.0 you mongoloid you literally have the documents from the engineer team saying default preset from performance and above should run K preset
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>Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
What speed/CL is recommended?
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>>107784547
You are getting scammed but 900 euro is the new normal for a 5070ti.
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>>107784658
>>107784644
SHUT THE FUCK UP JEET
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>>107784623
>It was borne out of the opinion that all 5090 cards should have a second 12V-2x6 connector strictly for safety reasons, not for added performance
And is there anything wrong with that?
In your opinion, not an argument of how it's so impossible
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I have never seen Nvindia jeets shill and meltdown this hard before
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>>107784660
Any brand that isnt particularly shit?
Might as well invest now while its still not as bad
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>>107784675
My opinion has nothing to do with the fact that there have been 0 "safety edition" 600W 5090s with 2x 12V-2x6 connectors.
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Can anyone sanity check my build? Any glaring flaws? I'm aware I'm overpaying for RAM and the GPU, can't be helped. Just tell me if you see any critical mistakes or very stupid items in this build that should be swapped.
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NOBODY UNDERSTANDS HOW DLSS WORKS LMAOOOOOO THE BENNY HILL THEME SONG IS PLAYING IN NVIDIA COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE
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>>107784184
are you sure that is refreshing correctly and sleeping/idling corretly so refresh triggers?
are you sure it's just not temporary image retention due to your usage patterns that will go away?
but yeah asus does seem have insanely buggy firmware some time
but other monitors are even worse with retard shit like forced mandatory refresh

>>107784214
>perfect
>lcd
>miniled
>ips

>>107784236
it was pg27ucwm* btw I fuck up the naming god damn asus swapping between them every time
the tandem oled will have a better coating and better contrast in light due and the 480hz dual mode
the qdoled will have better colors and no dual mode
both will be good
they might be worse in motion vs strobed 120hz lcd if running 240hz capped

>>107784471
>lcd
*mic drop*

>>107784479
pg27ucwm* like I said, asus is jebaiting me with the model names every day
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AMD lost, get over it.
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Njeets are not having a good day!
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>>107784587
dead
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>>107784712
So what is your opinion on having mutiple connectors on a basic GPU?
All I ask for
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>>107784733
>jeet wish list that he will never be able to buy
>overpays 800 for the GPU
FUCKING KEK
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>>107784733
>$360 motherboard
lol
>$480 for 32 GB
lol
>$230 for 2TB Gen4 SSD
lol there is no difference between the worse SSD and the most expensive
>Fractal Case
lol
>NZXT psu
holy lol
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>>107784734
Seems pretty simple,
RTX 20 and 30 series card owners should stick with first-gen transformer models if they need better performance over image quality.
RTX 40 can decide between G1 and G2 on a per-game & resolution basis.
RTX 50 owners can stick with G2 for everything.
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>>107784763
>>107784768
you guys poorfags or something?
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>>107784758
I've already shared my opinion on this matter months ago.
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>>107784734
it just does
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>>107784781
>calls himself a richfag
>needs approval from the masses before making purchases

lol
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>>107784797
>put together a build
>hey I'll see if anons can give me some good critique
>anons have a melty over me purchasing things they can never afford
>immediately project when I call them out for it.
Damn this is a trash general. I used Chat GPT to assemble my build, way more helpful then you miserable poorfaggots. Best part? Everything is overpriced to feed chat GPT so it's helping me build a PC you'll never be able to afford. LMAO
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>>107782822
>>107782830
kino
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>>107784793
I didn't ask about if Nvidia allowed it or not
Would you be ok with cards with 2 connectors even if on a basic model?
It's a very simple question anon, ignore Nvidia, ignore AIBs
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>>107784776
wrong retard

40/50 are basically the same architecutre wise, it depends on what setting you use
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>>107784781
>crypto jeet
>less than my half year salary
HOLY KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK MY SIDES
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>>107784781
>that BTC price
Based its going back up. I should have bought some more during the dip a month or two ago.

Oh well
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>>107784781
>5 digits (in crypto)
holy poorfag
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>chat gpt
>nvidia nigger still cant read
grim thread
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>>107784839
What you doing that makes you $320k a year rabbi?
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>>107784847
the poor jeet really wants us to believe that anyone is dumb enough to buy a 5080
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>>107784836
>architecutre wise
Not performance-wise >>107783038 you are the retard.
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Damn I really made you poorfaggots seethe over posting my build LMAO.
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>>107784829
Needing (not wanting) a second 12V-2x6 connector just to safely deliver 600W means the connector's design is flawed.
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are AMD still memecards?
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>>107784954
always was
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>>107784914
Still didn't answer the question
Let me know you're a real person and not just a stooge
One more chance
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>>107784958
Why does the OP suck AMD's cock then and act like they're sticking it to the evil tyrant NVIDIA faction by purchasing cards from NVIDIA's cousin?
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>>107784975
because brandwarring indians control the board
now stop replying to yourself it's embarrassing
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>>107784954
Ask yourself if you want to be stuck with Radeon cards until GPU & memory prices return to more affordable levels.
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>>107784975
its just ragebait, no one cares about moralfagging when it comes to consooomer products
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>>107784776
If you have a cpu bottleneck there is no reason to not run the heavier presets
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>>107784739
>>107784602
Thank you
So it appears I can only get dual mode OLED in 27"?

I'll do 1080p for gaming then swap to 4K for browsing
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>>107784970
The single 12V-2x6 connector's fine.
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>>107785001
Yes, because the increased computation is done on the GPU anyway, might as well use it if your GPU is already being limited by your CPU.
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i feel like i retard having to monitor replies from nvidia reps across various social media platforms just to get answers to basic shit
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>>107783895
>AIO card
Aaaand you lost me.
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The only comparrsion that matters is

Preset K - Quality
vs
Preset M - Performance

Nvidia are literally saying to not use the new models with DLAA/Quality as it's just significantly worse performance with barely any visual improvement.
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So when are they dropping driver support for the 40 series then
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>>107784739
>>107785004
Alright
Is THIS the goddamn OLED 1080p@480hz / 4K@240hz that you're dreaming about??
https://a.co/d/enNjdgy

With your typos it makes it impossible to track what you schizos are discussing
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>>107785060
Probably by the time neural texture compression and other new AI features are ready to launch.
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and now hes defending the housefire connector
what else is missing for the bingo
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>>107785020
So I guess you disagreed when GPUs came with 3-4 8 pins even when they didn't have a chance in hell of pulling 450-600w no matter what?
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>>107785058
The real comparison is using preset L and adjusting the render % and shapring filter manually, pretty sure you can do 40% instead of 33% for ultra performance at 4k which should look better while still giving you more fps than performance on preset k or m
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>>107785102
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1pnjcrs/rtx_3070ti_connector_got_melted/
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>>107785080
>housefire connector
Literally 0 houses have caught on fire due to this connector.
Stick to more retard-proof video cards if you can't deal with the 12V-2x6 power connector.
Vote with your wallets.

We all know Radeon cards will use these power connectors when the high-end cards need over 450W of power.
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so the 4080 doesnt cause housefires right?
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>>107785102
12VHPWR wasn't the standard at that time, and the 3090/Ti FEs had no issues safely delivering 300~450W of power with the proprietary power connection & included adapters.
The board design needs improvement.
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I hate you monitor faggots. If you're going to shill then shill with CORRECT MODEL NUMBERS

SOMEONE SPOONFEED ME THE CORRECT MODEL # FOR THAT FUCKING 4K/1080P dual mode Asus monitor

There's like 2 different model #s for that shit and Google/Amazon aren't helping

Either shill right or just fuck off being a huge faggot who talks in riddles
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>>107785157
blame asus for releasing the same monitor like 15 times
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>>107785157
They really need to give monitors more generic names. It's so fucking bad these days. I don't even care if they're cliche and GAYMER oriented. Fucking hell.
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>>107784954
Of course SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
TEAM GREEN FOR INDIA
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>>107785123
A handful of retards managed to cause power connection melts on a 4080; it's quite an exclusive club.
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nicotroon is not taking well DLSS 4.5 being such a success
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>>107785149
>12VHPWR wasn't the standard at that time
No shit
But what made you the opinion that 2 12vhpwr are unnecessary when it's otherwise been a pretty regular occurrence in the past that cards came with mutiple "unnecessary" connectors when it came to regular pcie power?
Did you hate on those cards? Did you have this strong of a conviction about them as you do with 12vhpwr now?
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RAM question (DDR4). My motherboard is an Asus Prime Z390-A. CPU is a Core i7-9700. My RAM is rated as 3200MHz. I have just learned about RAM speeds and XMP etc, and that my RAM is actually running at 2133MHz. So I went into BIOS, went to Advanced -> AI Tweaker tab, set the "AI overclock tuner" setting to "XMP I" and that's it. Speed is now showing as 3200MHz, BCLK is 100, DRAM voltage is 1.35V, all expected. However, the VCCIO voltage is now listed as 1.36V which is apparently insanely high. The setting next to it (which I have no ability to edit) is set to "Auto." What the fuck is happening here? Why is it so high? Also if I choose XMP II instead of XMP I it's the same thing.
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>>107784214
>MiniLED
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>107784214
I'd rather the next gen rgb strip WOLED panel coming out soon
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Swift-OLED-PG27UCWM-rears-its-head-as-new-Tandem-OLED-gaming-monitor-with-improved-text-clarity.1196598.0.html
4k @ 27inches with improved text clarity and all around improvements from last gen woled is going to be nice. Wish those lil nigs would have a release date already.
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>>107785242
>>107785242
>>107785242
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>>107785190
>otherwise been a pretty regular occurrence in the past that cards
Because those past cards were built without knowing the quality of the PSU or power cables, and assumed a standard scenario of 12.5A current delivery per 6+2 pin connector, when higher-end cables are capable of providing double that.
If you pair low-grade PSUs with a 600W 5090, you deserve everything that happens afterwards.
Just buy Radeon cards with 8-pin PCIe connectors if this is a deal-breaking proposition. It's that simple.
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>>107785200
i don't have any experience with LGA1151 but seems like you're right to be concerned desu
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#intel-imc
>There are 2 voltages you need to change if overclocking RAM: system agent (VCCSA) and IO (VCCIO).
DO NOT leave these on auto, as they can pump dangerous voltage levels into your IMC, potentially degrading or even killing it
you might be unable to edit it because it's a non-K CPU, or you need to set it to override mode
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>>107785157
you'll never get the same ones
they even change code by country sometimes lmao
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>>107784739
>are you sure it's just not temporary image retention due to your usage patterns that will go away?
Hopefully since it's clearly not burn-in, otherwise I'll just RMA it.
>are you sure that is refreshing correctly and sleeping/idling corretly so refresh triggers?
You mean letting the screen idle overnight instead of turning it off completely? No that's true, I don't do that all the time. Still that retention is very recent.
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>>107784214
Does it have true 8-bit color? How is the gamut and color accuracy? Can I use this for photography
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>>107785004
>So it appears I can only get dual mode OLED in 27"?
if you want true RGB Stripe subpixels yes, the new tandem LG 32GX870B looks to NOT be true RGB Stripe

>>107785072
I ain't clicking that shit, nigga

it's the Asus PG27UCWM and the PG32UCDM3 I am talking about
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>>107785297
>You mean letting the screen idle overnight instead of turning it off completely? No that's true, I don't do that all the time. Still that retention is very recent.
no I mean doing something that prevents the screen from going into idle, off, whatever the fuck and preventing pixel refresh to run... or buggy firmware where it never runs idk

>>107785235
>I'd rather the next gen rgb strip WOLED panel coming out soon
it's not a WOLED if it's true stripe rgb, it's just OLED lmao

>>107785157
posted about it
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>>107785454
>>107785454
Okay is the 27" RGB stripe released now or is it in the future? This is so fucking confusing since this model # keeps getting reused

Also that link is Amazon you dummy

I guess I will bookmark PG27UCWM and make sure it's the RGB stripe version

Or I will find you shills and make you pay me my money back
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am i really gonna be left with no choice but to go from 3060 ti to 5060 ti at this point lmao
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>>107785484
>no I mean doing something that prevents the screen from going into idle, off, whatever the fuck and preventing pixel refresh to run... or buggy firmware where it never runs idk
Apart from manually turning it off after using it? No, I even run the pixel refresh manually, I do it on average every 3 hours of use. I know that cleaning the screen while the refresh is on can throw it off, but I don't even do that.
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>>107785499
>Okay is the 27" RGB stripe released now or is it in the future?
Q1 2026 nigga it was just unveiled at ces

>Also that link is Amazon you dummy
not clicking your affilate link, nigga
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>>107785507
5070
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>>107785512
Then why you monitor faggots shilling for shit that isn't purchaseable

I hate this general so much, so fucking much
I hate AI
I hate retarded model nomenclature logic (holy shit fuck ASUS)
And fuck your typos earlier which kept having Google rec me the D model instead of the new M tandem model

God this made me all angry
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>>107785543
The best time for display shopping in the US is during Memorial Day sales (discounts on older displays before the new models launch) and Black Friday / Christmas sales.
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>>107785543
>Then why you monitor faggots shilling for shit that isn't purchaseable
Because true stripe RGB will clean up graphics and text alot

QDOLED non standard subpixels create a chromatic aberattion/3d/color vibration effect that destroys eyes

if you wanna buy NOW you can buy a standard WOLED or Tandemem oled if you want old technology with the least eye strain, if you wanna gamble and see if you can cope with eyestrain you can buy triangle shaped subpixel qdoleds already like pg27ucdm pg32ucdm

stripe rgb panels made oleds safe to buy which wont destroy your eyes

>And fuck your typos earlier which kept having Google rec me the D model instead of the new M tandem model
I have been swapping between the xg27ucdm and pg27ucdm all the time before now I exchange the xg to the pg one time for the pg27ucwm and all hell breaks lose
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>>107785543
just get this bwo
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0G631LBJT
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>>107785630
Nice 1 star review

>>107785617
I appreciate this info now. You can understand my confusion and frustration with the typo(s) dealing with the prefix and also the revision suffix (d->m) change

Sorry for the sperg out
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>>107782489
try building a ultra price to performance pc instead. for the games you want to play ofc.
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>>107783266
>digital foundry
bruh.
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>>107783817
>12gb of vram
>192 bit bus
lel. nvidioits aren't beating the allegations with this one.
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>>107786417
Shut up Jay. Go stick your finger in a running fan.
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>>107784023
having to use fake frames to get playable frame rates out of modern games is the real humiliation
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Anons i browsed some reddit threads about the lg c6 and they were saying that the 42 and 48'' don't get any real upgades. I just pre ordered a c5 from c2 and i think i made a mistake. Wtf should i do i already gave a small payment fee
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>>107786446
who is jay. they are known retards over there for not knowing what they are talking about, regularly spreading misinformation, and not correcting it when it gets called out. they are also paid by game publishers and developers to market their games. it's slop.
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>>107786501
Ok Jay. Chill out and get some more free shit from Microcenter.



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