>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/



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>>107785298
Yes, NVIDIA gave people with older RTX card an official option to try out the new transformer upscaler model.
They have the option to choose between performance & improved image quality.

Meanwhile, RDNA3 card owners are still begging for FSR4 support on AMD's social media accounts.

>>107785298
>Midrange card from 5 years ago can't make use of technology announced yesterday.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Swift-OLED-PG27UCWM-rears-its-head-as-new-Tandem-OLED-gaming-monitor-with-improved-text-clarity.1196598.0.html
give me a release date you faggots

>>107785242
DLSS 4.5 looks good!

>play gooner game with 4.5
>5090 is guzzling 400w on dlss quality as opposed to the 300 it was before
i dont think whatever miniscule increase in quality was worth it jensen

I gave FSR4 a try yesterday via optiscaler and it does look massively better than 3
Rise of the Ronin doesn't look (as) atrocious now

>>107785432
Eh, they still cant even release the 1440p 4th gen woled they were supposed to release months ago
even if they give a release date i wouldn't hold my breath
if youre in the US

and it's probably gonna cost like 1,200 or so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xsvMzvspQ

i hate asus but they're the only ones innovating

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This is my new PC build, shit is rough out here.

Going to have to buy the cheapest mobo I can get, because the budget is tight, but if it works it works

Going to have to reuse my used PSU, granted it is 1000W but cant afford to buy a new one

Going to have to reuse my NVME because can't buy a new one. If it gets bad like my 980 fails on my, I'll have to rip out the SATA 500GB PNY from my thinkpad.

Going to have to reuse my GPU, RX 6700XT because I cant afford a new one.

Going to have to buy the cheapest case I can get.

Going to have to skimp on the monitor cheapest 24" one because the budget is tight, $1000 no more.

Yea I would like to buy a 9070XT but I just cannot afford spending $2000. $1000 max and even that is high.

>>107785491
tried FSR4 in KCD II and it was still blurry shit
like expected
i don't know why i'm supposed to care about AI upscaling until they can solve the vaseline problem

>>107785432
>paying $1200+ for a 27 inch oled
stop buying this shit

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>Samsung put matte slop on all 2026 OLED TVs tripling down
>Samsung mixmatching panels
>Samsung put a ugly metal bezel around their flagship TV
>Samsung falling behind Tandememe woled slop TVs
>QDOLED TVs are going extinct and only monitors which are glossy to a majority left as qdoled
it's over

>>107785491
FSR4 and future AMD Radeon upscalers are being ported into PlayStation consoles.
Sony even set up a dedicated QA team to help assess the quality of the new upscaling models for AMD.
They need to look good on large screen 4K HDR TVs.
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2024-mark-cerny-fsr-4-to-play-a-key-part-in-the-next-evolution-of-pssr-upscaling

>>107785491
i have a hard time telling the difference between the new XESS dll and FSR4. The only real difference is the performance.

>>107785550
>he doesn't know how good 27" 4k OLED is
My condolences

>>107785550
what to buy instead then? HUH HUH?

>>107785527
ASUS has the largest budget out of the major Taiwanese AIBs.
Gigabyte & MSI's combined revenue is smaller than ASUS.

>>107785571
>>107785577
thats 55 inch oled tv money

>>107785542
Maybe don't buy a 9800x3d so you can get a new gpu or a monitor with a higher refresh rate
You're not getting to be getting any use from it with a 6700xt in AAA and way less will hit 180 in most e sports.

>>107785577
Don't listen to that guy. He's probably on some shit LCD panel coping and don't want you to have nice things.
t. Own pg27ucdm and it's amazing

>>107785604
>buying TV for computer use
Moron

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>>107785609
9800X3D is just future proofing, I'm not buying a 7800X3D when its just less performance. I want the best if I'm going AM5.

>>107785604
you can buy open box 55-77" qdoled tvs from bestbuy for cheaper
americans can't suffer

>>107785647
>>107785542
bait

>>107785242
>>107785298
>>107785355
I have a 4080S and with preset M I get 71 FPS while with preset K I get 68 FPS.
Quality wise I can't tell them apart, so I'd say it's a win, free performance.

>>107785646
Been under a rock?
TVs are great monitors nowadays

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>>107785253
>potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell

I just tested on a 5070 and 5060 ti on 2k. Results were really similar, difference between preset M and preset K was almost equally the same with preset k being roughly 1-2 fps faster in avg, L was a little bit too heavy for both cards, maybe around 7-9% less fps compared to preset K in the worst case i tested.

at 1440p DLSS balance with preset M now look like quality used to look in preset K but you may need to manually lower the sharpness from the nvidia app panel as its indeed really sharp in some games.

Preset L is the biggest question mark i have, the image is not good enough to really make upscaling from 720p to 1440p look good on a pc but i can see that there almost there.

My veredict is that both presets only make snese if you game on a 4k display that is bigger than 27* like a TV in which you can use preset L and do ultra performance or use preset M and enjoy a much better experience on 4k performance mode

>>107785665
Not practical if you're doing anything but gaming. Just have a normal monitor for you PC and a TV for your gaymes.

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>>107785242
Where's the Radeon shill?
He should be doing double shifts not slacking off, specially now.

>>107785671
Those new presets are fine @ 1440p if you want to get rid of the ghosting/smears at a performance tradeoff.

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>>107785646
The 42inch LG C4 and C5 make for great monitors.

>>107785708
How far away you're from it?
What do you do on it?

Should I upgrade my PSU if I'm getting a 5090? I have a Corsair RM1000e and a quick search says it should be fine with it but I want to be sure 1000w is enough for the fucker after undervolting it.

>>107785708
>The 42inch LG C4 and C5 make for great monitors.
Yeah assuming you want sit 20 feet from the desk to deal with a 42" display because the pixel density is ass

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buildzoid was right, TRAS is a meme on AM5. just set that shit to max.

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>>107785719
>Should I upgrade my PSU if I'm getting a 5090? I have a Corsair RM1000e

Its completely fine even not undervolted
t. 9800x3d, bunch of drives, 5090 and a RM1000e

So does this new shit push 5070tis forward somewhat?
the guy selling his sealed 4080S still hasnt sold it and im debating between that and a new 5070ti, theyre about the same price, but the warranty on the sealed one is obviously limited

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> r9 390
> gtx 1060
> gtx 960
> rx 580
wtf do you do with your old gpus? I'm not even sure with the AMD ones even work because the driver at the time shit the bed or a memory module dead

>>107785751
sell it on ebay. people will buy it used or broken for parts.

>>107785746
5070 Ti has the better frame generation support, and Reflex 2 if that ever materializes.

>>107785723
Pixel density is higher than most 1080p and 1440p monitors

>>107785751
amd ones are great for linux
nvidia ones are great to sell to cattle

>>107785242
My Samsung evo sata ssd just died. Is there a way to find out how old it was and if I can recover the data?

Also wanna ask, are evos notorious for failing alot?

>>107785769
And if I dont use fake frames?

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>>107785741
Thanks anon

>>107785746
Well see how the new DLSS runs on ampere compared to ada and blackwell, that could be you in a few years if they do the same for DLSS 5.5 or something.

>>107785560
So, in English, doc?

Also rare this TV, it was a gift from family 2 years ago:
QN75QN90CAFXZA
Also it was a gift as an excuse for them to let said family use my guest room twice a year as their AirBnB

>>107785780
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080-super.c4182
4th best card on the market

Where can I bulk buy some m4 x 30mm screws for cheap? Amajew listings are like 10 goybucks for a pack of 10 PC fan radiator screws

>>107785789
>>107785741
Is it atx 3.1 compliant? It could melt you know

>>107785827
aliexpress, moddiy

>>107785242
>14700k
ive been using it on 10 iot ltsc since i got it over a year ago. should i go to 11 ?

>>107785780
Buy the cheaper one if the warranty is valid for the sealed 4080 Super.

Why does preset K at quality give me worse performance than no AA at all?

>>107785725
>buildzoid was right, TRAS is a meme on AM5
yeah because he tested it lol
as simple as that
apparently used as a single-row refresh, if you know the rest of your settings are stable tRCD+tRP will also work
going too low will hit on-die ECC

>>107785812
>rare
rate
Holy shit I hate my phone

>>107785772
Comparing a 4k TV to lower res displays (in particular to a 1080p panel) is just disingenuous

Even so, you're wrong for 27" 1440p displays

>42" at 4k
>104 PPI

>27" 2k
>109 PPI

>27" at 4k
>163 PPI

>32" at 4k
>140 PPI

????

if nvidia is re-releasing 3060/80 can they please fucking add av1 encoding?

>>107785827
Amazon?
https://a.co/d/foC9h6j
Your mistake was looking for fan radiator screws rather than just m4 x 30mm which are a dime a dozen when not sold for "water cooling"
Just make sure you actually need m4 x 30mm

>less pixel density is better
I really don't get this..

can someone think of the poor ai farms

>>107785836
>Is it atx 3.1 compliant? It could melt you know
No and that doesn't really matter. Buy the type 4 12v-2x6 cable for it and you're fine

>>107785859
Are you using a turing gpu at 4k?

>>107785751
hang them on your wall

>>107785881
Just saying if your ok with most 1080p/1440p monitors, 4k at 42" is acceptable.
Most 1080p panels are 22-24" with 1440p being 27" most of the time.

https://www.techpowerup.com/344831/cooler-master-gpu-shield-adaptor-and-psus-addresses-pesky-12v-2x6-connector-meltdowns
this time it will be fixed for real

>>107785863
I went down a couple ns just setting it higher instead of lower and its more stable on top.

>>107785718
>How far away you're from it?
Between 75 - 90 cm.

>What do you do on it?
Gaming, media consumption, shitposting mostly.
Occasional productivity use.

>>107785723
It's around the same as a 1440p 27 inch. At my distance it's still good enough to run at 100% scaling.
Basically like four 1080p monitors in a 2x2 pattern.

>>107785946
>Basically like four 1080p monitors in a 2x2 pattern.
21 inch* 1080p monitors

>>107785892
Thanks
I think m4 is what I need because I ordered m3 screws but they were too thin for the fan holes and slipped through

I think preset L looks better than M

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>>107785708
I was researching if I could put a usb-c to hdmi2.1 cable from a laptop to use a dp1.2/dp1.4 port with active conversion and dsc to get more than 4k60 from that port to tv but apparently it breaks vrr and a bunch of other things, maybe, the more you know though
I shouldn't have boughted a hdm2.1 cable
this the most annoying thing with a tv rn, can't max out the hz, or well I most likely can turning a dp port into hdmi2.1

42" is really not that large too

C6 will have 165hz and new processing chip but no new features otherwise no new panels no nothing

>>107785812
>So, in English, doc?
just schizoramblings, but big if true qdoled death on tvs, no more qdoleds

>Also rare this TV, it was a gift from family 2 years ago:
>QN75QN90CAFXZA
lcd tvs are only ok for watching content if you wanna interact with it or play gaymes it's instantly over and you will become suicidal

>>107785893
depends on distance to display

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>bought a RTX 5090 to play demanding games
>end up playing pic related in 1080p
kino

>>107786006
>it breaks vrr and a bunch of other things, maybe, the more you know though
>this the most annoying thing with a tv rn, can't max out the hz
lol useless
buy a monitor not a tv as I said

>>107786052
based

>>107786059
It works fine with HDMI, his problem is DP to HDMI conversion fucking it up.
144Hz + VRR is no problem on my C4 with a 4080S and HDMI.

>>107785845
Windows 11 has a better OS scheduler for those Intel hybrid core CPUs.

why does nvidia label it with letters?
9800x3d
5090
4K 240hz

what is the best imagine Q? L, M?

>>107786085
For Ryzen 7000 / 9000 too.

>>107786100
M is better but heavier. L is lighter and mostly for Ultra Perf scaling.

So this is just a richfag general now?
No sane person with average income is buying parts right now

>>107785514
Figure I'll wait to see if they'll release it in the US soon, and if not I'll just get the PG27UCDM.
Or is the PG27UCDM still superior? People seem to really split over QD oled vs Tandem oled. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and grab the monitor now.
>>107785550
27 inch 4k is fucking great

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>>107786100
Objectively, the best preset for image quality is L, but the performance hit is massive on rtx 20-30 series gpus, so it's been relegated to ultra perf. The next best is M but it is also a performance hit so it's recommended that you use it with performance mode.

>>107786119
You are wrong.

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>>107786140
>You are wrong.
Stop reading reddit.

>>107786164
silence, retard https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/blob/main/doc/DLSS_Programming_Guide_Release.pdf

>if I don't want to use the 12vphr cable adapter I for my type 4 corsair psu I need to shill out 30 bucks
>my 750 watt gold+ psu is still good desu
>pondering if I should just go full retard and get a 850-1000 w psu
this sucks so ass

>>107786137
/pcbg/ is going back to what it always was. Americans only. if your pcpartpicker is not in USD then dont bother.

>>107786169
>DLSS_Programming_Guide_Release.pdf
Can't you read? >>107786164

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>>107786059
I have no native hdmi2.1 port like I said
>Lol useless
on the other hand oled has VRR flicker....

>>107786137
normies only buy smartphones and laptops not gaymen pcs

>>107786138
>PG27UCDM still superior?
not if it gives you eyestrain/headaches/vomiting due to the subpixels
and worse contrast in lit rooms
the real competitor is 5th gen qdoled vs the new (w)oleds

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1q5u1i9/official_nvidia_dlss_45_super_resolution_faq/

>>107785987
It does, but its heavier

Cant wait for this DLSS shit to burn out cards quicker and force you to buy another one

>>107786196
>on the other hand oled has VRR flicker....
I only ever notice it when something is running at low FPS. Like 40 - 50 FPS and constantly jumping between that. Mostly it's shit like Razer UI or Nvidia App that cause it.
Never had an issue with actual games.

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>>107786196
>not if it gives you eyestrain/headaches/vomiting due to the subpixels
WDYM?

>>107786237
Day 1 4080 here and still going strong. Already way past warranty.

>buys TV
>sits 2 meters away from it
>recommends everyone else to buy a TV instead of a monitor
You need to go back

>>107786196
>not if it gives you eyestrain/headaches/vomiting due to the subpixels
I could handle CRTs back in the day so I should be fine.
Does it look bad though?

>>107786212
so this shit is a nothingburger unless you game at 720p or 1080p at 4k.

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>>107786212
preset L is some come to jesus moment in terms of sharpness and motion clarity, if they can get reflex 2 to make 30 fps feel like 60 people will unironically be lining up to buy 6090's with 8gb of vram in 2 years

>>107786308
no, they're still wording it in a retarded way. it should provide all of those improvements mentioned in the post for DLAA/Quality/Balanced, but the performance hit is so big that they want you to use it in performance mode.

>>107786247
A small percent of subhuman hypochondriacs have an adverse reaction to QD-OLEDs

>>107786274
anon said 70 to 90cm

>>107786006
>but big if true qdoled death on tvs, no more qdoleds
Are qdoled the best for tv? So this move is just a way to cheap out even more for fab process?

>>107786274
>>107785946
>>How far away you're from it?
>Between 75 - 90 cm.

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>Gigabyte, MSI, PNY, ROG
These are the most trusted nvidia brands right?
>asus, zotac
These are usually not really well liked.

any other brands I should trust or avoid? Also since all of these brands LOVE to have like 3 fucking different series of the same card(Shadow, Gaming OC and Ventus in MSI case) which ones should I seek and which to avoid?

>>107786318
Pretty much. There's a picture quality benefit but the performance benefit of upscaling itself is minimized.

I.e.
K - Not as good but more FPS
M - Better but less FPS
Both still run the game at higher FPS than native though

>>107786368
preset k is like using msaa at 4x
preset m is using msaa at 8x
preset l is using msaa at 16x

they apparently cant make a once size shoe fits all preset so they are now putting the research/experimentation responsibility on the end user which imo is retarded but that's how dlss has always been i guess

>>107786368
>>107786318
correct me if im wrong but dlss3 still runs better than dlss4 but looks worse?

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>>107786242
might be gayme/monitor/settings dependent but yeah I've seen it strobe like a motherfucker turning it on a 240hz qdoled

>>107786247
qdoled monitors have a higher rate of causing eyestrain than woled so far
people speculate this was due to various reasons
I think the subpixels diamond matrix is most likely the worst thing
may or may not be solved due to higher ppi on pg27ucdm
may or maye not be solved even more due to v stripe rgb on the new 5th gen qdoleds
it depends

>>107786274
42" is like the max you should try on a desk before you enter the fuckery zone

>>107786302
I used crt back in the day daily never had a problem
qdoled subpixels are way worse
>Does it look bad though?
no it looks good but it does not matter if your eyes can't focus

>>107786329
>this man has better genetics than me (allegedly)
it's fucking over

so eye strain does not exist? entirely made up? are you taking up that battle?

>>107786347
for gaming, for high color volumes, if you listen to certain people... maybe yea

>>107786394
correct

>>107786317
8gb is more than enough goyim. You're only gaming, AI needs it more.

this place is not greddit, go back

>>107786402
Share the Ariel snapshot where he says you shouldn't degrade your QOL just to be anti-NVIDIA.

>>107786348
90cm is still a stupid distance to sit from a desk, and only really works if you arent actively using the PC, as in gaming with a controller or just watching shit on the monitor

>>107786402
>so eye strain does not exist? entirely made up? are you taking up that battle?
I never said that, but the claim is it was only effecting QD-OLEDs, which is retarded to think.

Maybe its exacerbated for some people with them, but claiming youre throwing up from it is comical and clearly some genetic disorder. Works on my eyeballs anon

Maybe people should turn the brightness down or stop looking at them for 12 hours straight from too close

>>107786318
If you can tank the fps loss then you run preset L, if you cant then you run preset M and if that its still too bad and you dont care about ghosting and shimmering then you go for K, honestly it may also depends of the game, a correct implementation, in some games were DLSS was implemented like shit i can see these new model saving their devs asses

where can I find a unc friendly psu with 4 sata cables?

>>107786389
No, you're not supposed to force it.
Different Presets are for different DLSS scaling levels, you're supposed to leave it default and let the game decide depending what you pick in the game settings for DLSS, i.e. Quality, Balanced, etc.

You're literally "using it wrong". But sometimes you have to, if you want to use it for older games, etc.
Just do per-game profiles depending on what quality level you use *OR* just set everything to default at let Nvidia handle it. People find a reason to bitch either way.

>>107786454
>90cm is still a stupid distance to sit from a desk
Not if you have a 42 inch screen. As I said, even 100% scaling works fine from that distance.

Trying to come up with a build that represents spending the most amount of money for the least performance, without being obviously retarded.

Kind of a "The prebuilt special"

>7500X3D
Kind of a "you knew you needed an X3D CPU but decided to save like $30 and lose a chunk of performance for it.
>8GB DDR5
You'll buy a second stick later, right? When the prices go down.
>9070XT
Paying $600-700 for this is what you were putting those savings towards. (9060XT 8GB is probably a better pick here)
>Some cheapo B650 MOBO, maybe even A650...
Motherboards are all the same, right?
>Peerless Assassin
Probably the best part in this build.
>Dramless SSD of some kind.

>>107786467
in theory the preset will change automatically depending on quality mode you set in game, but that only works in very specific games and only after updating the streamline files to 2.1.0 for now. you can force this functionality by forcing quality mode per game in the nvidia app thoughever.

>>107786507
That was my point, yeah.

>>107786511
i personally think they rushed this out the door just so they'd have something for gaymers at ces. seems odd how they've basically fumbled at explaining it all day

>>107786522
Probably, officially it releases 13th Jan with the new Nvidia App.

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>>107786461
Seasonic Prime or Focus should be the boomer-friendly option.

Still hate your monitor faggots. Still typing wrong model#s because you're mass replying like turbo faggots.

Monitor and TV discussion= massive faggots, either type like a normal human being or stop being insufferable know it alls that type about in-jokes and showing e-celeb talking head as screenshots.

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>>107786437
lol

>>107786454
>but the claim is it was only effecting QD-OLEDs
I have never claimed that, people have gotten eye strain from woleds, lcd (no shit) too
but it appears woled subpixels are less eye straining than qdoled since people swapped to it from testing qdoled first

>but claiming youre throwing up from it is comical
yeah that was from comedic effect and from redditors reported posts in the past, I know people here can't pick up on nuance and take everything literally
I have never gotten a headache, nausea any of the sort
I have gotten blurred vision from the shit
which I wonder if there was something wrong with me during that period, if the coating on that specific monitor is actually severely that bad, plastic gloss coating warping colors, or if all qdoled glossys are like this, but it's not since they use different coatings all of them, it was truly horrendous
matte qdoled in comparison did not behave like that and did not give eye strain to the same extent or if even at all, at the same time I could see the fringing still, but it was not as bad as the one before, but as rtings also report the matte coating REDUCES fringe compared glossy on the 4k 32" qdoleds, so it might be purely the subpixels or not, still not sure

>Maybe people should turn the brightness down
had zero effect, I used both full blast, nothing to do with too much brightness, the glossy was straight harsh

>>107786550
You can't read. Sad!

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>>107786484
I am saying that being forced to sit that far away is trash, hence why the TV is *too fucking big* to properly function as a monitor. What is so hard to grasp here?

Quit recommending fucking TVs instead of monitors, they serve two different purposes and are designed as such. Goddamn you people are fucking idiots. I hate this goddamn board and thread every time I come into it

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>>107786567
You don't need more than 3 separate SATA cables (where each cable has 4x SATA connections).
The Prime has plenty of SATA cables, but you'll have to pay an extreme premium.

>>107786560
Post video links or stop posting random talking heads you fucking faggot.

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>>107786605
This guy tested (and returned) two separate 32" 4K QD-OLED monitors at his expense.

>>107786575
>>107786575
This has nothing to do with TV vs monitor though, it's about size.

>>107786500
Well here's the changes I did to mine.

>120MM AIO Cooler
HP's and Dell's love to put 120MM AIO's on their higher end chips. Which costs more than a good air cooler and performs worse.
>500gb Dramless SSD
For some reason prebuilt companies are also against giving good sized drives.
>5060ti 8GB
Prebuilt companies love this GPU. Even though it's more expensive than a 9060xt 16gb.
>Overspecced PSU
Prebuilt companies don't want to deal with returns from bad PSU's. So Dell and HP often put 80 plus Platinum units into their PC's. So I overspecced the PSU here.
>A620 MB
People who buy prebuilts are never going to use those features anyway.....

https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/RYwVqH

The more i test dlss 4.5 the more i like preset L over M

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>>107786575
Works fine for me. Old work in progress pic tho.
Chair is pulled out, usually it's closer.

>>107786635
noo anon that's too far!

>>107786635
why does this picture looks like it's using preset M

>>107786575
How far would you put a 2x2 21inch 1080p setup?

>>107786600
what is this site?

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>>107786640
Kek, the wide lens her makes it seem even further away.

>>107786635
Aren't those speakers too large for that placement?

>>107786635
>>107786656
That looks reasonable to me

>>107786659
They are near field monitors.

>>107786661
Same, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten one. Anything under 4k 42 feels small now.

>>107786650
Official Seasonic product page for the Prime TX.
They stopped making cheaper GX Primes.
https://seasonic.com/prime-tx/

>>107786635
what desk is that

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>>107786575
nta but 42" is perfectly doable as a monitor, after this you have to make compromises things get even fucking higher vertically
for fuck sake you got 52" 6k uw like the new dell meme that is the same vertical height as 42" 16:9
fully bottomed out to bottom of desk 32-42" is about it
people who raise up their monitors are actual psychopaths though

>>107786616
returned one, free
sold one, same price (minus delivery fee maybe lost 5€)

>>107786605
of what? people talking about the eye strain question?
ok here is one guy talking about the exact thing I mention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3DkYK0fW5A

>>107786635
Post tape measure distance from head position when typing to the display

today has been an eye opening experience watching placebo fags get btfo by their delusions of grandeur

>>107786635
>>107786656
Based

>>107786676
DIY.

>>107786681
Already did, 75 to 90 cm. See >>107785946
Depending if I'm laying back or not.

>>107786691
Post a picture, not the imagined distance, go on. I'm waiting

>>107785904
Using a 4080 at 2k

So if you dont use fake frame tech, amd wins?

>>107786684
They're not testing the difference methodically.
People needed to keep track of specific scenes where DLSS4 fell apart in motion and reproduce that exact scene with 4.5 and the "new" (kek) K preset.

>>107786627
Hooked up to a 4k 32" TV.

>>107786454
>90cm is still a stupid distance to sit from a desk
from the desk itself or from the monitor screen?
if you meant the latter, it's a completely normal distance, anon

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>>107786699
Does this help?

>>107786734
Just buy Radeon cards.
I want everyone else in /pcbg/ and 4Chan to own Radeon cards.
I want Radeon to have at least 40~50% of the PC GPU market share.

>>107786740
Take 1 second and search retard
Literal front page of pcpartpicker shows modern dual GPU setup

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/3drD4D

>>107786734
No because Nvidia is also better at raster

>>107786734
Better yet, if you don't need any of that "Shader" bullshit you can pop in a voodoo card.

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>>107786749
>hand
you're brave anon, I respect it

>>107786769
Kek.

>>107786749
I'm 80cm from my 32 and it's huge

>>107786550
what about the montech century II? I can find it for cheaper and I don't need to register to a new store

>>107786749
>less than 70cm away eye position when sitting up straight
Lmao. Lol. Lmao

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>>107786635
>>107786691
>>107786749
That's basically visual acuity distance aka retina

>>107786790
It's supposed to be.

>>107786799
I know.

>>107786796
No? The screen to the edge of the table is already exactly 60cm. Ass 15 - 20cm when sitting up straight.

>>107786808
>Ass
Add* kek

>>107786791
That's a good PSU.
https://hwbusters.com/psus/montech-century-ii-1050w-atx-v3-1-psu-review/11/

>>107786760
Im trying to compare the 9070 xt and the 5070ti and they are mostly the same in terms of performance, but the 9070 is like 300 europoors cheaper

>>107786734
yes saar, now please amd saar so i can eat in bangladesh saar

>>107786822
A 5070 Ti obviously isn't worth 300 EUR more than a 9070 XT.

>>107786822
Thats because AMD does not support their hardware as long as nvidia, for example they just announced they will end support for RDNA2 which came out 5 years ago while nvidia is supporting cards that are 8 year old with new features, even if you are a troglodyte that must run native you are sitll gonna get fucked in 3 years when the 9070xt gets put in maintenance mode

>>107786635
Hey anon is that the c4? I’m upgrading from c2 to c5 and wanted to ask any anon here who did go to c5 if it’s a waste of money or worth upgrading to

>>107786749
Also do you also use your second monitor? Kinda seems like a bloat

>>107786839
This is info I can actually use since im buying it as a spare

>>107786799
Where can you calculate that?

>>107786749
>>107786808
How tall are you? Do you have to look up?

>>107786839
WINDOWS does not support their hardware as long*

Linux supports AMD gpus as far back as the first DX11 card.
Nvidia is abandoned for anything pascal or before.

>>107786799
>That's basically visual acuity distance aka retina
>says 75cm on the short end, more likely closer when actually typing/using it
>15% closer than "visual acuity distance"
Ya sure, totally fine and without issue kek

>>107786855
His info is wrong and bot info. Do your actual research instead of getting scammed by bitched like a jit you are.

>>107786856
https://andreabrandi.com/app/calculator-distance-tv-monitor

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Alright did I fuck up. I got this LC-Power 560W 80 plus silver PSU for a spare PC a year ago. The only reason I got it because at the time it was the only new 80 plus silver PSU for sale. And I just wanted it because 80 plus silver models are so rare.

>>107786853
>Hey anon is that the c4? I’m upgrading from c2 to c5 and wanted to ask any anon here who did go to c5 if it’s a waste of money or worth upgrading to
That's a C4 yeah, so can't help you with that. C5 isn't a huge upgrade over C4, but the remote is apparently shittier, not that you use it when it's doing monitor duty.

>Also do you also use your second monitor? Kinda seems like a bloat
Yeah, it's comfy. It's not in the way either.

>>107786856
>How tall are you? Do you have to look up?
No. My eyeline is about at the top of the monitors (speakers), like 1/3th from the top of the TV.

>>107786876
You almost made two sentences. Good job.

RTX is a no go since their drivers are bad. crash on Windows, stutter on Linux. what else u gon use it on? windows 7? mac? lmao.

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>>107786885
Forgot pic.

>>107786870
>>says 75cm on the short end, more likely closer when actually typing/using it
Considering the screen is 60cm from my edge of the table and the edge is 20cm from my stomach while sitting straight...

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>>107786890
Yeah avoid Nvidia.

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>>107786895
portrait monitors are a meme
take the landscape pill

>>107786895
portrait monitors are not a meme
don't take anon's landscape pill

>>107786901
Based. I don't really need the second screen but it comes in handy, nice to have a portrait screen too.
It's 2560px portrait, compared to 2160px of the 4k main display.

>>107786907
Kek.

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-announces-geforce-rtx-5090-proart-as-nvidia-opens-founders-edition-pcb-use-to-board-partners

>it's a 5090 fe but with a usbc port instead of hdmi 2.1
holy based

>>107786881
Check the spreadsheet, which isnt posted in the OP anymore for some reason. The efficiency rating is meaningless to what the guts of a PSU really are and its design, generally.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1719706335#gid=1719706335

>>107786822
If you upgrade more frequently the 9070XT is the better choice.
If want to upgrade less often, 5070Ti will stay relevant longer.

>>107786899
>30 series
>6000 series
what year is this? lmao

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I hope that someday I'll be able to experience 4k 60fps in modern games

>>107786921
no wait it's 2 dp, 1 hdmi 2.1, and 1 usb c
wtf that's retarded as shit

is there a case similar to the H7 flow 2024 that has a huge empty space at the bottom and NO PSU shroud? I've longed for freedom from the tyranny of the PSU shroud for a decade at this point.

only time i've turned my monitors portrait in the decade i've had a mount for it has been to play Sound Voltex
it's a meme

>>107786923
Since its meant to be a spare, I guess longevity it is, assuming it doesnt burst into flames after the warranty is up since itll be in storage for however long my current card survives

>>107786922
LC-Power is not on that list.

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where are my landscape brothers at
i expect this to be used in the next OP

>>107786921
Kinda a disappointing design, desu.
ProArt 5080 was nice. This just looks too plain and the branding makes it look cheap.

Should have gone for a more woody design.

I'm never building a PC again

>>107786984
At the rate its going, none of us are

Inter-dimensional beings will fix the ram prices, they need some too

>>107786959
>LC-Power is not on that list
Then IDK, see if you can find it on jewgle with some reviews but its a crap shoot with no name brands unless you can find whatever the Chinese OEM is

>>107786925
people overpaid for ampere and rdna2 remember they arent getting rid of those anytime soon

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>>107786895
You actually motivated me to see how far I stand from my c2 and I’m actually 85cm away from it, sometimes even more when I play my office chair back. I’ve been on this setup for more than 3 years and I did tons video editing and countless hours of gaming. Every client/friend who came here was amazed by the quality and had clients edit with me for hours and they didn’t complain about the distance, so 42” is king for me for desktop atm.

>>107786945
5070 Ti isn't worth overpaying 300 EUR over a 9070 XT.
Especially if you plan to keep it sealed as a backup card.
Why do people come here and ask questions if they're going to waste money anyway?

>>107785751
that is a really stupid collection

>>107786138
>is the PG27UCDM still superior?
No because it's the screen that gave me image retention on the last thread.

>>107786899
>>107786925
nvidia really sold a 3070 with only 8gb of vram while amd gave you 16gb.

Is UPS a must ? Few months ago main switch box almost melted and fried my speakers. But its been fixed now and otherwise electricity is stable. I just dont want to risk my thousands of dollars build have the same fate as my speakers. But I also dont want to spend 400 extra $ in these hard times for a UPS

>>107787031
In 4 years the 5070Ti will be DLSSing shit at 120fps.
The 9070XT will be discontinued and going for €200 on eBay.

>>107787026
>hardcore andy
Gross

>>107787026
get some key caps bro. they aren't that expensive.

>>107787074
Completely depends on the electricity in your area

Please just give amd a chance. Please.

Why TVfags insist everyone else to use TVs for desktop PC? Like fags who're excited to tell everyone they're homos.
You have your preferences and keep it to yourself.

>new super resolution model
>dynamic mfg
>pulsar
Meanwhile FSR 4 when it is available is only DLSS2 tier (not bad, but inferior to current models) and FSR FG is unusable.

Also this just in:
Nvidia wins console war with Geforce Now. Xbox has already crumbled, and Playstation will follow next generation. Microsoft and Sony would rather simply publish games and distribute them from Nvidia's servers. PS6 Pro will be the last traditional console

>>107787078
I play era idk why the hc icon is there

>>107787089
Is the g buttons of k95 which I don’t use. I’m looking for a new keyboard tho because this is a 9 year old keyboard lol

Seriously considering aliexpress ram

>>107787074
>Is UPS a must ?
No but it can be a good idea.

What UPS are you looking at that is $400?

Good quality sinewave UPSes can be found for ~$150-250 almost anywhere depending on the wattage you're looking for it to support

The main caveat is you really need to get a proper sinewave one for electronics

>>107787096
A display is one of the most important PC interfaces; it's fine to talk about it in this thread.
32" LCDs used to be TV sizes, and many thought them to be too big to be used as monitors.

>>107787068
And the 3070 was and still is massively better on average. In fact it still plays modern games relatively well because of DLSS, while the 6800 was obsolete on launch against the games of its day

>>107787110
>I play era
Based. I am about to transfer my war from anni to era, fuck TBC I ain't doing that shit again

Wish I had copied my main war back in the day when they offered it from classic, oh well.

>>107787121
CyberPower CP1500, heard its good and has enough juice for beefy builds

>>107787122
>many thought them to be too big to be used as monitors
Still are. 27" max.

>>107787096
because oled monitor prices are absolutely retarded. a 27 inch shouldnt cost more or the same as a 55 inch.

>>107787141
>higher pixel density shouldn't be more expensive
Bruh...

>>107787136
Thats the same one I have. Its ~$250 on lolmazon in the US atm-- CP1500PFCLCD

Highly recommend it, runs my main PC, monitors, and server without issue. Won't last very long on battery (maybe 15 mins not under load), but at least prevents surges and going off from flickers during storms

>>107787154
its double the panel size.
double the complexity.
double the shipping costs.
double the retail space.
double the power draw.
the logistics behind 27 inch costing more make no sense

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got a reference 7900gre, xfx 210 7800xt and a kfa2 4070. don't ask why i got those. do you guys think i am going to be able to sell them on ebay to waitfags?
>>107787110
>this is a 9 year old keyboard lol
lel

>>107787154
They will die on that hill saying it shouldn't cost more to manufacture a more densely packed panel (as well as cooling it)

I have given up talking to them about it. They are actually retarded or intentionally ignorant

See: >>107787166's instant reply. They know nothing about manufacturing or electronics design whatsoever.

PC owners try to understand screen technology challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

>>107787158
Its a 100 more here in the Eu. Guess its better to be safe than sorry. Things just add up in building a pc from new eh

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>>107787130
lmao

>>107786989
My 2nd PC has just been nothing but problems despite me having good parts. My original shitbox was bulletproof

>>107787195
I JUST WANT NICE LOOKING FONTS AND LOW INPUT LATENCY A HIGH REFRESH RATE ON A FUCKING ULTRAWIDE MONITOR. IT'S NOT THAT HARD. JUST ARRANGE THE FUCKING PIXELS BETTER.

>>107787132
Era is thriving right now desu. It’s so much fun. Started leveling an alt aswell. Fuck TBC and tranniversary servers. I have a 52 warrior on anni but I’ll move him to era aswell.

>>107787178
What’s so funny about my k95?

>defending paying more for less

>>107787261
pay for deez nuts

>>107787219
nothing funny about your k95 keyboard. my keyboard is just 17 years old.

If you can't see pixels with naked eye then you've been scammed.

discussing anything with people whose bottom line or ego relies on not understanding something is always a great idea

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Time to post this again

>>107787219
>Era is thriving right now desu.
Unfortunately my anni war is on a PvE server so I am stuck going to Mankrik, which is dead as fuck. REEEE my fucking friends rolling PvE fucked me

poorfag nvidia update
my 5090 looks better on K

if you want your PC to be fast then your only answer is linux which means your only answer is AMD

>>107787325
no i very much like micro cock up my ass. i also like nvidias little cock as well.

>>107786575
>>107786635
>>107786680
TVs suck in general
Imagine having to use a remote for simple things

So 9950x3D2 was a lie?

>>107787325
Not everyone is a friendless tard anon

>>107787199
wasn't the rt in far cry optimized for rdna specifically?

>>107786921
Is it an actual FE pcb or just the concept?

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>>107787344
no need.

Why do people even recommend AMD cards? Nobody buys them. The only place you see them is on youtube. They have sold more 5090s than they have sold 9070XTs

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dfg won

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Would this be fine? Speed is the same as samsung ssd's.

>>107787349
>wasn't the rt in far cry optimized for rdna specifically?
Maybe, because AMD's RT performance sucked dick in nearly everything else in that gen
>>107787361
I went from a 6950 XT to 5090, no regrets. I would have considered AMD but they decided to shoot for the mid-high shitter tier of cards and skip out on anything top end. Too bad

>>107787349
>optimized for amd specifically
>as oppose to optimized for nvidia every other time
again. shove your goym shilling up your ass nigger jew.

>>107787361
hipster brand

>>107787335
>>107787348
Found the Windows retards enjoy your slow as shit PC.

Is 16GB really not enough or is Alex Battaglia an alarmist?
Kinda fucked when the only option above that is 2000-2500 if you can even get it.

>>107787374
Decent DRAMless SSD.
Not bad if you're not planning to do heavy video editing, etc.

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Alright, I followed /pcbg/'s buying recommendations and think I'm finally ready to build.

>>107787361
Nvidia is broken on Linux & Windows 11 whatchu gon use it on freebsd or mac?

>>107787395
It won't be enough when the next consoles become the target
So like 7 years from now

>>107787395
stop watching youtubers trying to sell you stuff
16gb is obviously enough

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>>107787389
Linux Slower than Windows 11

>>107787339
Use scripts and hotkeys?

>>107787389
Run an x-lite build. Quit being a bitch.
>>107787400
I see who won the powerball last week

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>>107787389
I LIKE THE SLOP. I LOVE THE BLOAT.
>>107787408
that's a notebook

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>>107787395
Use your own brain for a second.
Game developers aren't porting titles that less than 3% of the Steam user base can utilize.

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>>107787397
>Decent DRAMless SSD.
I don't really know what this means.
>Not bad if you're not planning to do heavy video editing, etc.
I just want somewhere to install my games and store porn.

Should I go for a better SSD?

>>107787402
Where did you pull this information from? It just works for me.

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>>107787199
>radeon
>rt+4k
You are sadly mistaken
Pic related was typical. And DLSS Balanced would have provided 60 FPS at 4K while Radeon could barely muster 20 FPS

>>107787427
>I just want somewhere to install my games and store porn.
The drive you posted is perfect for that. Great balance of budget and performance.

>>107787427
>I just want somewhere to install my games and store porn.
That SSD is fine for this use case. Store porns on a HDD.

>>107787423
game developers are also retarded and don't optimize shit. 8gb of vram is a meme.

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New DLSS is awful for Ampere GPUs, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but I replaced RDR 2's DLSS DLL with the new one, and with Preset M I have severe performance regressions at 4k, and the only way to activate it is by using DLSS performance mode, balanced/quality gives you Preset K and Ultra Performance gives you the new Preset L.
>Native, no AA gives me 40-43 FPS
>DLSS Quality (Preset K) gives me 45-47 FPS
>DLSS Balanced (Preset K) gives me 47-50 FPS
>DLSS Performance (new Preset M) gives me 38-40 FPS
>DLSS Ultra Performance (new Preset L) gives me 50-52 FPS
my GPU is a 3060.

>>107787457
stick to dlss 3 or dlss 4, 4.5 is for the big dawgs

Guys please, what power supply won't cause coil whine? it's driving me insane

>>107787457
buy a 50xx gpu if you want to use the latest model

>>107787465
>big dawgs
so you mean fat people?

>>107787427
You're fine
Dram is just ram embedded into the SSD, that ram tells the sdd where every file is or might be, making everything slightly faster
The issue of dramless ssds is that the more you fill them up, they slower they become, so let's say you but a 1tb one, in reality you'll only be able to use like 800gb ir you don't wanna lose performance

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>>107787455
Then don't buy those types of games, or wait until those half-assed titles are discounted. Vote with your wallet.
Find new friends if your set is peer pressuring you into playing unoptimized trash with them.

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>>107787443
it doesnt just work. cant even get solid 60fps in fortnite. mobile phones can.

>>107787457
New DLSS is available for Ampere GPUs
The same cannot be said about FSR4 on RDNAPoo

>>107787484
You've been posting that WEB since November 2024.
Epic migrated that game to the more performant, upgraded engine.
But you can't post new benchmarks because you'll have no leg to stand on.
Get mental help.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/L7nrkCbkClWN_nRvx26jrQ/order/asc/

>wipe windows
>coincidentally one of my accounts gets breached
unlucky or insane timing?
did i have some malware waiting for me to lose my session token to hack me easier?

DLSS 4.5 is amazing, if we keep gaining quality but losing performance it'll eventually just end up being functionally like playing at native again. Full circle. Poetry maybe even

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>>107787339
>>107787410
Start doing this.
>hotkeys + corners

With sound:
https://files.catbox.moe/8ggjyf.mp4

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>>107787484
time to bring up radv bro didn't listen 2 years ago but maybe people will buy amd now

>>107787484
Shader compilation happens on all cards and the stutters are worse on Radeon
t. laughing in rtx at techn00b poorfags

>>107787519
Just use MFGx10, ez.

>>107787361
Nvidia has paid shills pushing Radeon to idiots because Nvidia needs a competitor to avoid legal trouble. Nvidia thanks Radeon buying browns for their service.

>>107787519
Officially giving access to the upgraded transformer model to RTX 20 & 30 users is the better option than leaving these guys to find modded versions like RDNA2 & 3 card owners are coping with.
RTX 20 and 30 series card owners can always revert to the G1 presets.

>>107787026
>>107786895
maybe I should have buyed the cheap C4 when they were available
now kinda forced to wait for C6 if you want 165hz the only meaningful upgrade
but the battle is harder than ever considering monitors have more hz and going true RGB stripe
brutal

>>107787060
kek

>>107787096
you can barely call 42" users TVfags
55" to 83" are the real tvpill sizes

>>107787137
the point it goes over eyeline level it gets progressively worse
bet you are a psycopath that raises the monitor up more from your desk too

>>107787154
>phones cost jack shit
deboonked

>>107787166
low volume of production + they scam us
the same point being that rog monitors cost 2x as much as other monitors with the same panel in it

>>107787180
>They will die on that hill saying it shouldn't cost more to manufacture a more densely packed panel (as well as cooling it)
the fact that 1080p monitors are still being sold and even qhd is insane to me
like why are they not just mass producing 4k

>>107787339
>TVs suck in general
better pq and lower input lag than what you are using most likely
>Imagine having to use a remote for simple things
you don't have to use a remote (*if you buy the correct tv brand)
a remote is vastly superior to navigating a display vs being hunched over like a phaggot trying to swap inputs and change settings, you are insane

>>107787400
this reminds me maybe I should look in the discount bins in retail stores for ram

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>>107787446
Alright, thanks.

>>107787447
Yeah I do store most of it on HDD's but I like to have some close by on my PC.

>>107787476
Thank you for the explanation. I guess that's the reason this SSD is not sold out and at normal price.

>>107787519
paid Nvidia post

>>107787524
Why do buying amd cards make people so mentally unwell

>>107787576
Buyer's remorse

>>107787566
Thirdworlder reading comprehension award for thinking I'm praising dlss. It's ok though. Your 9060 xt is enough Rajesh.

>>107787576
It’s the crushing buyer's remorse when one realizes nobody is impressed by their overrated Radeon RX card.

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5080bros, how we feeling?

>>107787638
Anon, please use some support, I can hear the PCB cracking.

>>107787638
FIX THE CABLES

>>107787638
Pretty good. Generating fap fuel in illustrious/pony every day to fuel my porn addiction. Barely play games anymore. Why bother when anything i can imagine can be spat out in slop form within 4 seconds with the power of Nvidia GeForce RTX

>>107787651
I think the pic makes it look a little bigger than it is maybe. It's been in there for a year now with non problem.
>>107787654
Honestly, how do I do a better job with the pump cables next to the ram? I didnt see any solution that doesn't have some visible cable running.

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>>107787651
>pcb cracking
>when it's only a square in the center
fe cards built diff

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lol mlid

this year's ces was pretty mid huh

>>107787722
The monitors were pretty nice; they're getting better practically every year.

>>107787722
electronics aren't for consumers anymore so it's pretty obsolete

>>107787722
What were you expecting? QD-OLED doesn't glow purple anymore and Pulsar eliminates blur. Already knew new RTX cards are a year or more out. I would rather have massive advances in AI than trash AAA video gaymes anyway

>>107787675
>Honestly, how do I do a better job with the pump cables next to the ram? I didnt see any solution that doesn't have some visible cable running.
At least route them properly.

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>>107787744
i wanted cool cases and shiet but i suppose asus delivered