>>107786093
>the public
no, not even close.
normgroids aren't frothing at the mouth about it, nor are they singing its praises.
They're just using it unconsciously and don't give a fuck.
The only cheers/jeers it gets are from losers on the internet with nothing better to do than fling monkey shit at each other.

Slave mentality. People have grown accustomed to the plantation and they fear being taken off of it.

You need to understand that normalfags fucking love the idea of people 1000 years from now still driving 2 hours to work, to sit in a cubicle for 8 hours a day.

NPCs hate change.

>>107786093
Most people don't hate it, those who do have been told to hate it by the leftist media they consoom

>>107786093
only seething artfags hate AI, every other person, people that actually work and produce value appreciate AI.

irrational hate of the new thing as they perceieve it as a direct threat to their lifestyle (slave away on a job you hate while producing zero value whatsoever) as well as increasing competition (good) in their domain of work

>>107786116
this and it isn't change either. AI is just more algo analysis you can use. normies are duped by it cause they have pea brains and it spits office speak that they are programmed to obey

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>>107786093
Because there is no immediate benefit to the average person. Instead it seems to negatively impact the average person overall.
Not that hard to understand.

>>107786148
>a direct threat to their lifestyle (slave away on a job you hate while producing zero value whatsoever)
And what sort of lifestyle do you think the AI revolution with leave them with instead?

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Fear of permanent unemployment. Fear of death. Fear of seeing their kids starve. Fear of the destruction of society.

In a word, wagecuck fears.

>>107786115
fpbp
most people are ambivalent about it and simply use it whenever they need to

Because it keeps getting shoved into people's faces?
Like these stupid pop-up AI chat windows every site now has or all of Windows?

>>107786148
>>107786165
Eagerly awaiting your response, anon. If people's fears are irrational, then what new and better way of life should they be looking forward to once AI has eliminated the value of their labor?

>>107786265
AI enables a capable individual the ability to produce value equivalent or greater than that of a full fledged company.

>>107786287
>nooo you don't get it, the billionaire who owns the 128-trillion-parameter AI will still need experts like me to talk to it!
Is this the only cope you guys have?

>>107786093
Using up all the resources (water, electricity, ram, copper, switches, cabling etc), taking jobs, creating mindless slop, stealing creative works from people to repackage and resell back to people, all the while offering no tangible benefit to anyone. It's a make work project for the rich. That is all.

>>107786116
NPC's also like to have money they can use at their discretion without the government getting involved or corporations (visa/mastercard) telling you what you can and cannot do with it (social credit score incoming via digital id).

You fucking retarded mouth breathers have no idea what is coming. Mostly because you just sit there gaming and jerking off but cannot fathom how this will be used for evil.

>>107786132
0/10 troll post. Either that ore flat headed retarded person.

>>107786287
Doing what you pants on head retard? Entering prompts into an AI to do the work that you then take credit for. Fucking mongoloid retards ITT.

>>107786338
You just can't prompt like these guys can prompt XD kek. I almost spit out my coffee. These bundles of sticks will be run over with AI too.

>>107786265
>If people's fears are irrational
They are. All this talk about looming ai dystopia and gorillions of jobs getting automated and yet so far the biggest impact of AI was being able to generate smut quickly and google things by typing your query in an LLM chat window.
>then what new and better way of life should they be looking forward to
Not having to slave away on jobs they hate while doing something else with their lives.
>once AI has eliminated the value of their labor
Most jobs produce zero value whatsoever. You doing click-clack on a keyboard? Wipe it off and nobody will notice.

>>107786093
Everyone outside of the tranny lefty crowd is neutral or positive towards it.

>>107786093
I think 90% of it is down to corporations being so forceful in trying to find use cases to justify the insane spending. People were already fed up over all the tech bro scammers and corporations shilling NFTs 24/7. Then when AI came along they just started shilling that instead in basically the same exact way.

People like and use stuff like ChatGTP or Gemini. What they don't like is every customer support now being retarded AI chatbots, social media being 90% Indian AI spammers, and every single website and program having useless AI powered "summarize" features.

>>107786093
it really depends on which point of view you talk about

>in terms of forms of art, the general public despises ai because its works often come across as soulless and have that unsettling feature called the uncanny valley. artists despise ai because it often is trained on their work without their permission
>in terms of coding, both the public and coders despise ai for making what is often times low quality code, resulting in many pitfalls. try microsoft with 30% vibe coded code, windows 11 is known these days for being massively unstable.
>in terms of ecology, people despise ai for consuming way too much water resources
>that's not to mention the current ram shortage
>people hate the corpos who attempt to cram ai to every possible space, since the latter apparently thinks ai can replace the ability to take a shit and breathe.
>generally speaking if you rely on ai too much you lose your own problem solving skills, creativity and such
>even more examples that i cant be bothered to list

>>107786116
The people that run offices did not like the work from home thing and demanded everyone come into the office

>>107786520
i did read a nice article that tackles the problem solving part, by having ai force you to make use of your brain more than less, and i personally condone such an approach.
https://ia.net/topics/turning-the-tables-on-ai

even more, there are local language models (see >>/g/lmg if you wanna know more) which work directly on (You)r hardware, though performance varies and i assume you have a computer that is capable enough to run say most vidya, this tackles the water consumption issue that comes from using llm datacentres

>>107786574
as much as i like the article though, in a way it is also an advertisement for whatever their word document program is, which i dont use at all

>>107786093
for casuals and normies all that matters is the product. If they are funny tiktok videos, they'll watch them. If it's a shitty low quality movie, they'll ignore or make fun of it.

>>107786430
>Not having to slave away on jobs they hate while doing something else with their lives.
Like what? How will they afford to do so? What jobs will be left to human beings? Or do you think corporate goodwill or your God-given sovereignty as a consoomer will motivate the elite to give you UBI?

>>107786093
>deeply hated
It is not. ChatGPT is one of the top download apps both on Play Store and App Store.

People don't hate AI. They hate AI abuse.

>>107786265
nta but you have a redditor's understandment of economy. Jobs dont disappear into thin air, since they are the metacurrency of economy itself.

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>public
you mean reddit mods

>>107786093
I didn't hate it until I understood it's intended to destabilize the job market nevermind the costs
It doesn't matter whether AI-assisted minimum wage retards can even do the jobs, what matters right now is the sentiment that they can (backed by massive tech sector investments)

>>107786624
>Like what?
Like people did in every instance of this happening throughout history of mankind?
>How will they afford to do so?
By doing something else, evolving and adapting.
>What jobs will be left to human beings?
As I already said, for now the biggest breakthrough of AI was the ability to create smut locally which is not a concern unless you are a degenerate with a crippling porn addiction. You can relax because your generation won't have to deal with the consequences of the totally upcoming ai dystopia (source: trust me bro) so you will get your fair share of slaving away if you so desire. There are and there will be plenty of jobs that AI won't be able to do and just like with previous industrial revolutions and inventions that killed off a bunch of jobs new jobs will be made not to mention the impact in all domains of life which is not reduced only to a bunch of people getting fired. It didn't happen overnight and millions weren't suddenly left without a source of income to die homeless on the streets, the changes took decades to be enforced and they resulted in an increase of productivy, reduced cost of products and increased economic growth.
>UBI
Nobody will ever pay for simply existing.

>>107786093
Dyed-haired crazies don't represent the general public.

>>107786093
Disgusting soulless shit made for groids so of course /g/ loves it

>>107786977
I've yet to see a single reason for your optimism re: people being freed from the cofines of jobs they hate. It's magical thinking to assume that once AI has eliminated massive numbers of white-collar "zero-value" jobs that The Market will suddenly produce better, more fulfilling jobs in numbers that won't produce a massive wave of unemployment. Most people I know would be happier doing a shitty office job than working the mines, but who knows, maybe we're in the minority!
>previous industrial revolutions
Famous for their equitable treatment of workers, whose misgivings definitely proved to be completely irrational.

>>107787211
zero value jobs will always be safe since those are management jobs which also happen to be the ones who get to decide who gets replaced

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>>107786093
The value of art (in any medium) is the human expression behind it. AI apologists know this even if they won't admit it; otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to lie about and/or hide their use of it so often (and demand the right to do so).

>>107786093
I hate AI because I think it will lead to the death of creativity and the death of the social parts of the Internet. Facebook, while it was never a bastion of quality, is now completely filled up with AI slop. It's a dire place to go visit.
While visiting my parents, my dad was watching YouTube fail compilations with voice-commentary clearly written and read out by AI. The quality was so awful, and these content farms just push out this garbage to the point where it will eventually fill every orifice of the Internet.
I don't care about the productivity or the effects it'll have on the job market. My own job is probably at risk (air traffic control) eventually but that'll run its course. I care much more about how it'll affect culture, general intelligence and critical thinking. These things are already scarce but it'll become much worse when everyone stops thinking for themselves.

>>107786093
It isn't. The general public tend to not think about it at all.

>>107786977
>UBI
>Nobody will ever pay for simply existing.
This, and at which point does unemployment benefit transform into this "UBI" and how can governments then magically afford to pay it in a larger quantity to a larger proportion of people?
It's not like they're planning to kill off enough people to make it possible? Haha...?

>>107786339
Not to mention killing off jobs.

>>107786093
It's not intelligent, it's just artificial.

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>>107786115
There are surveys about this. American adults seem to have somewhat negative feelings toward AI.

>>107787308
stop being completely unreasonable schizos about anything to do with AI and people would be happy to tag it

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>>107786093 (OP)
>Copilot, "Ask" on youtube, gemini, etc.
They're forced on users and don't work very well.

>AI "art" and "music"
I want art created by humans.

Because of low quality spammy slop produced by indians, same thing happened with crypto back then. Great tool at the hands of everyone else (including subset of nogs) could result in great art, but it all turned to shit when indians touched it and flood the internet with low quality repulsive shorts, images, bots.

>>107786093
The fantasy: AI will bring in an age of plenty and will free humanity.
The reality: Shitty glorified chatbots will be shoved into everything in a rabid scam to defraud investors to build shit that will never actually make money where the general public will both foot the bill and face both short and long term negative consequences leading to the eventually and no-doubt drawn out collapse of everything. Those responsible will never be brought to justice in any official fashion, as history has proven, and so the only pragmatic option for the general public is to take up arms now and kill them in the midst of their action instead of waiting. To take up rifles and just start shooting them in the head.

>>107786093
i just dont like it i think it is evil

ITT: antiAIs pretend the general public isn't using AI more and more by the day and that everyone shares their opinion

>>107787830
>Stabs you, makes every space littered with shit, ruins trust and destroys social contracts
>Puts on mask to blend in and avoid the flack after all of the above
>Wtf you noticed what I'm doing? that's unreasonable you schizo!
>Continues lying and parasitizing

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>>107786116
>OMG AI is going to create a singularity utopia!! We're all going to be living in luxury soon I'm excited as fuck!!!!!

>>107786093
I think we hate the slop being spammed everywhere more than the tool, but people like mixing and confusing things

>>107786093
>have coding problem, ask AI for a solution
>"Here is the solution!"
>generates a semi-plausible response, but its formatted wrong or has some syntax errors or actually doesn't do what I wanted OR it uses outdated functions that got dereprecated years ago
>tell it this, it generates a response that doesn't fix it
>do this multiple times, get something semi-workable
>have to awkwardly paste in new segments each time so the AI gradually loses its grasp on what even worked in the first place
>starts making the same mistakes it made at first all over again
>repeat forever

Its legitimately just dogshti, you'd learn more and make less mistakes if you just googled the tutorials the AI steals from yourself.
Don't even get me started on when it just makes up functions that don't exist

>>107788123
yeah some people are very naive into thinking that the money worshippers who are profitting with healthcare, the same ones who gatekept the vaxx forcing governments to pay while people were dying on mass, are going to let the wageslaves to stop permanently producing for them?

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>>107786902
>4chan is now defending reddit users
holy shit this site is so fucking over

>>107788123
Ironically it's the anti-AI crowd believing this propaganda more because they unironically think it's going to take their jerbs or kill all artists.

>>107786093
companies are using it as an excuse to fire people in masse and not hire anyone and are trying to force it into other shit like google searches where 90% of the time it gives you incorrect info
>>107786116
>we freed you so now you can have zero income

>>107786574
>>107786591
Article kinda nicer spin from the usual "prompt AI to solve your problem" to "prompt AI to ask questions to make you think harder". However can't you just use your own brain for that already? It feels almost patronizing the more I think about it. "You can't be self-critical or think from first principles on you own". It may even atrophy the capacity for the brain to do so. Yes it's hard, but that's a strategy to digest concepts being learning.

>>107788509
>being learning
Shit I need some sleep, but hope the main point comes across. Not even for/against AI, but it feels like the strategy to have AI "help you think" can have a hidden cost.

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>>107788377
It's just going to be used to censor the internet and keep track of your social credit score

>>107788591
They already do that right now

>>107788611
Not as much as they're going to in the future

>>107788624
Woah that's scary

>>107788634
living under technofuedalism is a scary concept to people who aren't brainless NPCs, yes
Indians are already used to living in hell, so it doesn't bother you

>>107788653
True yeah

>>107787380
Yours is an absolutely rare and sane post.
I'm a millennial, born in the mid 1980s.
Nowadays I firmly stand by my observation, that the skateboarding was the last, true youth culture. Which ended some time during the mid to late 90s.
Every other craze which has followed since have become things and activities of observing rather than participating.
At the turn of the millennium, there was an outlier hybrid which included both: the global Pokemon fandom phenomena. At least kids, youth and young adults were conversing about what they observed on the TV and perhaps playing the cardboard game, later the video game with friends.
Noteworthy mentions:
>the LAN-party era before online multiplayer gaming (where multiplayer gaming and vidya became "alone" things despite playing together)
>the Halo/Xbox1 phenomenon that was limited to the North American continent
Both these things preceded the "aloneness" of multiplayer gaming and video games in general.

Since the advent of streaming video (predominantly due to YT and GoogleVideo and then Google's acquisition of YT and their most aggressive push towards its omnipresence) and the advents of social media, which then got put into a cauldron together with the smartphone...
well since all of that happened, the whole world became an observatory where onlookers were gazing into the night sky (their screens) and admired "what's out there" whilst decreasing their own artistic or recreational activities...

I mean... what do younglings do nowadays?
Stare into their streaming video devices for hours and hours, observing. Or playing vidya, by themselves, albeit "together, online."

What I'm getting it that this situation has reached a dire status even before AI became a thing.

With the pandemic mindfuck still lingering on for I don't know how long, I've a hard time imagining any sort of culture or movement of genuine human2human contact emerging any longer.

Soon there'll only be content form the slop machine.

>>107786174
most people don't actively use AI. it's mostly retards/jeets. most people get annoyed when google AI gives you incorrect answers

>>107786148
>while producing zero value whatsoever
that's based though. you should always strive to produce zero or negative value to the company
>>107786287
and what about everyone else? and who is supposed to buy these products?

>>107786430
>and google things by typing your query in an LLM chat window.
you're giving it too much credit. the AI also gives you completely incorrect answers when you google search things

>>107786434
the only people I know who like it are lefties. everyone else thinks it's indian trash

>>107786473
gemini gives you incorrect answers

>>107786520
>>107786574
https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/
either using AI makes you a tard or only tards use AI

>>107788957
>most people don't actively use AI
you cant be THIS delusional

>>107786639
>ChatGPT is one of the top download apps both on Play Store and App Store.
by indians, not people

>>107788002
You sound like you feel somehow threatened that everyone is not embracing AI without questions.

AI can find out a lot of stuff, but you need to aggressively curate it to get it right. Seen this again and again, whether the problem is a technical or a creative one. Meanwhile, we are being gaslighted that we are useless without AI and should feel thankful if we can still help it in some tasks.

That's a perfect narrative to lower wages.

That's not a coincidence – it's by design.

>>107786093
Because the soulless tech morons are trying to automate away the enjoyable parts of our lives to get us back into the work pods for longer and make them more money.
Taking all the money from the slop machines and automating the shitty parts of our lives was the promise of technology, but we won't do it.

>>107788978
>and what about everyone else? and who is supposed to buy these products?
We'll worry about that later.

>>107789088
it's also in the top for particular countries, most european countries actually. Nice try though

>>107786977
AI is clearly a hebrew scam, along with h1bs/indians, to lower wages

>>107786093
i thought only leftists trannies hated AI?

>>107786093
The public was lied to by the one percent in control of the media. We will generate our own entertainment and get rid of the propaganda spewing rich sexual drugged up deviants.

>>107786565
Hard to tyranize someone who's wearing comfy pants at home.

>>107786093
Because my RAM now costs $600 and my two year old GPU is worth more now than when I bought it.

>>107788002
they aren't. only indians use AI. the only use I've ever found for AI is making pictures of hogwheels eating rice with curry with his hands while kevin nash stands in the background or making pics of kevin nash with 14-21 black men

>>107789163
>your post
exactly.
no pop.

>>107786093
Because I can't afford a PC and phones are going back to 4GB RAM, so that people can create AI images of shrimp Jesus that other AI bots react to on Facebook.

>>107788377
most companies didn't hire at all in 2025

>>107789072
they don't. it's jeets
AI is basically worthless
>>107789116
yurop is part of greater india

>>107789125
the opposite. only lefty trannies like AI. they like H1Bs too

I need help bros. My retarded CEO has fallen victim to the AI hype train and has sent out like a 20 page document on all the initiatives he wants us to do involving AI. And me and the CTO are going to be in charge of helping implement it. He doesn’t understand that 90% of the shit on there is stuff we’d do if we had extra time anyway. It’s annoying.

>>107788591
This is my current biggest concern with AI.
As a tool it's incredibly efficient at processing data, and now we have more points of data collection than ever before.
Imagine what you could do with all that data obtained. You could learn so much about human behavior and what molds it.

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>>107789118
>hebrew
conspiracy theory, open racism, not an argument
>h1bs/indians
conspiracy theory, open racism, not an argument
>to lower wages
did they?

To be fair, I have no problem with it in my work life. I’m starting to resent it because the videos are everywhere now, even TV ads. The images are everywhere. Any fucking tech article I see is about AI. Any finance article I read is about AI.

I just like using it as a work tool. I don’t like having it shoved down my throat every time I do anything else.

Personally I don’t like the idea of AI producing art and, even worse, that the public simply doesn’t care if it consumes AI art so long as it’s entertaining.

>>107789442
>conspiracy theory, open racism, not an argument
it's literally fact, it's not a theory. in the late 80s the NSF intentionally lied about a stem shortage with the goal of lowering wages to stem workers and those lies let to Democrat Ted Kennedy and George Bush Senior creating the immigration law that created H1Bs and student visas. The NSF director in the late 80s was jewish and congressional hearings in the 90s pulled up memos showing he intentionally lied to lower wages. it's the same reason the head of the EU wants to import a billion indians and why musk loves indians
https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-costs-of-the-foreign-student-influx/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/04/09/scientist-shortfall-a-myth/f4f88e0e-921e-48c3-9cae-8bb894de2588/
https://www.chronicle.com/article/lawmakers-criticize-nsfs-1987-study-on-supply-of-scientists/
>did they?
a. those raises were less than inflation
b. that doesn't account for all the new entry level jobs not given out
c. that's a bullshit cherry picked image anyway with a snuck premise because it only has 1 year's worth of data when h1bs have been around since the 90s
you're a piece of shit. every h1b and student visa is a piece of shit. everyone who hires h1bs is a piece of shit

>>107786708
Jobs are tasks people have to do for others to get money in exchange. AI isn’t just replacing jobs, it’s also replacing hobbies. Imagine a thing human would do on a computer, AI could replicate it perfectly no matter what it is. What about physical labour? Robot doing it would cost less then the calories in grain used by a human doing that work. The only thing left would be stuff like sports or being theatre actor, and even that could maybe be done by a robot in skinsuit and nobody would be able to tell. The problem is not public opinion, but just the matter of public opinion even mattering. Most first worlders dislike watching AI videos, but if they can’t tell if video is AI then it does not matter what they think, extrapolate it into all actions human can take. If you would be given a bullshit job by state or something and that job can just be done by you paying for a robot that looks like you to do it or some super advanced AI agent to do it for you for less then your pay check then you can’t have fake jobs at that point. I am not saying this will happen in 2 years, but it could happen in 50 years, and it won’t be sudden, so how would you prevent this situation or make a working system in this situation.

>>107786115
Long and short, this. AI isn't going anywhere and most people who use it are cool with it and don't have a strong opinion either way.

>>107786093
I only hate ai because it's being pushed absolutely everywhere. it doesn't belong in 90% of the places it exists.

>>107786093
Hi Bernd. :_3

>>107786093
there's a town in texas that have to live with perpetual 100DB of noise, even inside.
And that's just from a bitcoin farm nearby.

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>>107786093
>go to a doctor's appointment
>front desk replaced with an AI kiosk
>AI tells me it can't find my appointment in the system
>Tell it to connect me to a human
>AI tells me it can't find my appointment to talk to a human but if I'd like to wait it can make me an appointment for 6 months from now
>Bang on the door
>Actual human nurse comes out
>Checks her computer and confirms I have an appointment and the AI was being retarded
>Ask why they replaced the receptionist with an AI when things were working fine
>"I don't know man we all fucking hate it believe me, it's just management trying to save money by creating more work for us fixing its mistakes"

>Go into my appointment, everything is good
>Get referred to a web portal to book my next appointment
>It's another fucking AI
>Skip the clanker and just call the support number
>2 hour wait time to talk to someone
>It's an AI voiceover
>Press # to talk to a human
>It's some Indian
>Hang up, call back and just book my appointment with AI

Has anyone found a good application for AI in the real world yet? I've only ever seen it used to delete jobs and push the workload onto other employees. This is just my most recent experience but the same thing happened to me when I went to cancel my gym membership and they literally didn't have a single working employee in the gym, just an AI kiosk that would go in loops to prevent you from canceling. I had to talk to the indian call center worker to get that one resolved.

>>107786093
>the public
Not really. It's mostly gamers from what I see since, remember, NVIDIA/AMD/Intel all spent decades using games as their marquee thing. It was mostly to showcase progress in Moore's Law and how many pixels and high resolutions you can push on a screen so it was never REALLY about the games, but still.

>>107789627
>It's mostly gamers from what I see since
And the theatre kids demographic.

>>107786977
The problem with people thinking that this will be like another Industrial Revolution fail to realise that Industrial Revolution was pretty much just one of a kind event. Before Industrial Revolution we needed 85% of people to produce food and 15% to be specialised professionals, military or the rich. We could not produce more goods, mine more resources or do big infrastructure projects because 85% of the population was too busy farming and there is limited amount of fertile land, so society was constrained by labour. After Industrial Revolution we were no longer constrained so much by lack of labour, at first maybe but with more technologies the limiting factor became increasingly natural resources. It might not look like it now thanks to our economic system distributing resources in about as good of a way as historically you could, but we are still constrained by resources or rather our ability to extract them as opposed to the amount of people working. Do you think the mining operations are constrained by not enough people becoming geological engineers and miners, or not enough people becoming power plant workers? There certainly are places on Earth where sectors of economy are dying because there is not enough people in that field, but that’s not because there are not enough people in general. People just chose not to go do those occupations or those occupations are too hard for large quantity of people to go there, which is what H1B was meant to be for originally. If there was enough jobs for everyone you wouldn’t have high unemployment and bullshit jobs where you do nothing because there would be huge demand for lots of people to go to those jobs, but there isn’t. We were able to offset the Industrial Revolution 80% job loss from agriculture by massively increasing our production, but to do that again with AI you would need to somehow also increase the resources. More energy and more raw materials to make us all manage more things.

>>107789503
>The NSF director in the late 80s was jewish
and?
>the head of the EU wants to import a billion indians
did anyone ever say "billions of indians must be imported?"?
>and why musk loves indians
and?
>a. those raises were less than inflation
you said wages were lowered whey they clearly weren't, they are literally rising
so either your h1b irrational hoax is not true or they don't actually impact wages
>b. that doesn't account for
why should it account for it? you are not good enough and you don't get a job, it's very simple, it's not a universal conspiracy against you
>that's a bullshit cherry picked image
you are free to provide a more reliable source and it's not cherrypicked as it's consistent with other similar info
>every h1b and student visa is a piece of shit
whatever
>everyone who hires h1bs is a piece of shit
whatever

>>107786093
It's what people are exposed to. And here is what the average person is exposed to.
>Low effort generated slop made likely by third worlders
>The threat of job insecurity due to AI automation
>Elites and out of touch sorts telling them that "they just don't get it"
>Computer hardware price spikes
>Electricity price spikes
>Water price spikes
And the best they get are some dumb funny low effort videos.
The average person sees little benefit from it, and that's because right now the corporate cuckolds are overselling it instead of being grounded.

>>107786093
>why is the slop machine so deeply hated by the people exposed to the slop?

>>107786093
Mr. Slopya Nutella, welcome to our board. Good morning sir!

>>107789442
>Heh just ignore those positions I fired for ai, goy
Kill yourself

>>107789125
I've noticed much more negative discourse and hate for this on the leftist/liberal side too. Doubt it means much, but yeah.

>>107789530
post proof of toile ownership
>>107789611
>Has anyone found a good application for AI in the real world yet?
saving money by pushing work on to other employees and jeets and preventing people from canceling subscriptions

>>107786977
>>107789662
the invention of the cotton gin created more slaves in the US

They are terrified of the inevitable and they cannot comprehend it simultaneously.

Make your money in AI while you can, because those who stick their head in the sand won't have time to dig themselves out when high tide arrives.

>>107789836

>>107786093
. It's being forced everywhere in a development state where it causes more trouble than it solves.

. The fear of fake retard jobs being replaced is justified.

. AI Slop is the flagship product.

>>107786093
>AI is deeply hated by the public
It's not.

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>>107789796
Leftists hate AI because it's just being used in the west to consolidate resources towards the already-wealthy. Look at the current GPU shortage for example, or the mass layoffs currently happening as jobs are being replaced by AI.
If you look in China, optimism for AI is very high despite being a Communist country. Because the CPC is pretty involved in regulating AI to benefit the country and not a few billionaires, the people feel it's in their best interest to promote automation. Americans are perpetually anxious about automation knowing their government only cares about protecting the wealthy.

>>107786115
Ruining the economy and job prospects is enough to justify hating it. If someone believes that UBI will happen, they are mistaken. They would rather wait until people die. If someone believes AI will make new jobs, they are wrong as well. If AI replaces you at the job you are fit to do, it will learn your hypothetical new job faster than you are able to learn and practice it to the level of being employable. Also, there is a problem of getting into a job without having the commercial experience, because companies don't want to train people. So you won't get that new job even if you want to learn that new thing.

>>107789662
>which is what H1B was meant to be for originally
h1b was never meant to address a shortage. it was designed to lower American stem workers' wages from the start. that was the singular goal and reason for h1bs existing.
it's literally impossible for high paying jobs to not have enough workers
>>107789668
>and?
so it was literally a hebrew conspiracy to reduce wages
>did anyone ever say "billions of indians must be imported?"?
yeah, the head of the EU
>and?
musk loves them because they lower wages and make working conditions worse and that is evil
>you said wages were lowered whey they clearly weren't,
you didn't demonstrate this. you posted a single year to year pic from a literally who. post an actual source proving this
>so either your h1b irrational hoax is not true or they don't actually impact wages
you are lying. the white house has released a memo saying h1bs drove down wages as much as 30% in some areas
>why should it account for it? you are not good enough and you don't get a job, it's very simple, it's not a universal conspiracy against you
there's systemic discrimination against white men, microsoft is being sued over it and they are hiring h1bs illegally because they can pay them less. it's a crime and conspiracy. this is why everyone thinks luigi did nothing wrong, boot licker
>you are free to provide a more reliable source and it's not cherrypicked as it's consistent with other similar info
it's a cherry picked image made by a literally who and is false and runs counter to what the white house has reported. you're a liar and you are lying
>whatever
you are obviously an h1b and a boot licker.
keep it up. high unemployment always leads to more luigis

>>107789929
normalfags don't care
they're busy watching tiktoks and paying bills

>>107789796
>>107789901
the opposite. I've only seen leftists who also love h1bs shill for it

>>107786093
It is not even AI. It is just next generation programing and automation. This time it is the automation of menial white collar labor.
The problem is that is not evolving and developing organically.

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>>107789952
>leftists who also love h1bs
do you know what a leftist is or do you think corporate democrats are leftists?

>>107789930
>so it was literally a hebrew conspiracy to reduce wages
and how did you reach that conclusion?
>yeah, the head of the EU
quote, link... anything?
>musk loves them because
I didn't ask why he loves them, I'm asking so what? one random person loves them, so what? is that an argument?
>you didn't demonstrate this.
I did to the best of my abilities, I'm not even from the US
>saying h1bs drove down wages as much as 30% in some areas
and? do you realize that h1b is not only for indians right? I'm from europe and I would qualiy if I posess the qualifications (I don't recall the requirements, only that you must have a degree) and it is for workers in specialized domains that are not restricted to SWE only for instance
>there's systemic discrimination against white men
systemic means that an entire system is built around it, microsoft (a private company with its own policies) being a bunch of asshole is not systemic discrimination and now they get their ass handed to them (rightfully), it's a crime (if they are proven guilty) but not a conspiracy
>it's a cherry picked image made by a literally who and is false
I repeat myself, you are free to provide a more reliable source
>you are obviously an h1b and a boot licker.
I'm neither of those two I'm just amazed at your combination of conspiracy theories (that usually take root in low education and lack of critical thinking/evidence) and singling out of specific ethnic groups for no purpose at all confirming your bias

>>107789981
leftists have always loved fucking over and enslaving workers. it's why marx advocated for open borders, so he could import indians to drive down the value of labor

USA about to invade Greenland over AI slop

>>107789981
The man on the left genocided, enslaved and brutalized his own people into abject poverty, stole every fake local election (and many more abroad) via Dominion, Smartmatic and the Carter Foundation (hello Jennifer McCoy), kidnapped and sent untold numbers of destitute street children to Cuba for prostitution, flooded the west with drugs, trained mudslime terrorists and travelled first class arround the world on litetal trillions of bloody oil money buying politicians, the media and celebs to help him keep that sweet tyranny going on forever. The murderer that replaced him did even worse and is now about to taste what it's like to eat shit everyday and have nothing to live for.

>>107789863
Yes, because you were now less limited by the number of spinsters and more limited by production of cotton, so you needed more niggers in America harvesting cotton to match the increased consumption of raw cotton by cotton gins.

>>107790021
>and how did you reach that conclusion?
it's literally in NSF memos that were released during the congressional hearing I linked in a previous post and the at the time new director of the NSF admitted as much in the congressional hearing
>quote, link... anything?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWMe55Zv8_s
>I'm asking so what
musk is indicative of all tech billionaires
>I did to the best of my abilities,
which obviously are not very good, because you didn't prove shit
>I'm not even from the US
a. no shit, that's why you are retarded and evil
b. post proof of toilet ownership
>and?
lower wages is a bad thing
> do you realize that h1b is not only for indians right?
over 75% of h1bs are indians and over 2/3rds of h1bs are either entry level or the bracket just above entry level.
>I'm from europe
so, an indian
>and I would qualiy if
fuck off, we're full
> and it is for workers in specialized domains that are not restricted to SWE only for instance
over 2/3rds of h1bs are either entry level or the step right above entry level. we don't need them, they exist to lower the value of labor. if we were paying h1bs $1 million per year that would be another thing, but that isn't what's happening. h1bs get paid less than Americans for similar experience and location
>systemic means that an entire system is built around it,
it is
>microsoft (a private company
microsoft is a publicly owned company, not a private one
>being a bunch of asshole is not systemic discrimination
they are literally violating the law and the aren't the only
> now they get their ass handed to them
they're going to get fined for less than the amount of money they made/saved discriminating. so yes, it's systemic
>I repeat myself, you are free to provide a more reliable source
I did, the white house
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/restriction-on-entry-of-certain-nonimmigrant-workers/
>I'm neither of those two
you admitted to being indian and you're bootlicking, faggot

>>107790021
cont
>I'm just amazed at your combination of conspiracy theories (that usually take root in low education and lack of critical thinking/evidence) and singling out of specific ethnic groups for no purpose at all confirming your bias
you're obviously a boot licking troll. have fun with your unlimited indians there in yurop

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>>107790074
>marx advocated for open borders
have you ever actually read Marx before?
https://monthlyreview.org/articles/marx-on-immigration/

I suggest you do, because his view of immigration is probably a lot closer to yours than the Jews in power would have you think.
Communists, Marxists, and Socialists do not support open borders. Generally they are on the side of "managed" immigration and not letting your country get flooded by migrants that drive down wages. Where they differ from the classic /pol/tard take on immigrants and borders is that Marxists also don't want to exploit and destroy other nations to force people to come to the Imperial Core for safety. US foreign policy is trapped in a paradox of wanting to exploit the third world and then being surprised when third worlders come to the US after their home was destroyed because they still need to earn money to live.

Corporate-managed AI is basically the exact same thing except cutting out the immigrants. You still get job destruction and wage depression anyway but without the ethnic food restaurants that make immigration at least slightly culturally beneficial.

>>107790074
Anon every right leaning politician in my life time has given massive tax breaks to large corporations, and cut any sort of social supports they can.

>>107789611
My ISP replaced customer service team with AI.

I had a pretty complex issue (changed connection type, needed pro rata refund of old service, needed old service disconnected, and new service 'moved' across into my old services place as my main connection).

It did all of it with one simple sentence explaining the issue. Genuinely easier than dealing with an indian on the phone.

>>107790210
he literally argues for the abolition of borders in the communist manifesto
communist, socialist, marxists and leftists want open borders so they can fuck over workers and genocide white people. that's why there are no left wing politicians who are pro closed borders and deportations
>no they need to come here
destroying the third world is based and they should not be let in
immigration is always bad
>>107790246
every leftist in my life has pushed for more jeets

>>107787308
That's just pride and vanity masked as art. Narcissists hate seeing their vehicles of vanity being destroyed.

>>107790195
>new director of the NSF admitted as much
but that doesn't make a jewish conspiracy, so what?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWMe55Zv8_s
wasted 5 minutes and not a single word about billions of indians being imported
it's a measure to combat illegal smuggling of migrants, which is a crime, so what's wrong with it?
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/mt/ip_23_6081
and why are you so concerned with the migrant situation in europe anyway?
>musk is indicative
musk is a single individual and his opinions are not indicative of anything, today he says one thing tomorrow another, so what
>no shit, that's why you are retarded and evil
ad hominem
>lower wages is a bad thing
but did the wages actually get lower?
>over 75% of h1bs are indians and over 2/3rds of h1bs are either entry level or the bracket just above entry level.
and?
>so, an indian
you are acting dumb on purpose
>fuck off, we're full
that's not for you to decide
>we don't need them
not for you to decide
>microsoft is a publicly owned company
you get what I'm saying, it's not a systemic issue on a government level, doesn't change what I said earlier, one company acting bad doesn't imply there's discrimination against whites or whatever
>violating the law
and they will be punished for it according to the law
>the white house
it says nothing about h1b being a jewish conspiracy or it being a scheme to lower wagies
some companies abused the system, that doesn't affect you as you are not an h1b hire
>you admitted to being indian
that is something you made up in your mind including many of the other things you said
>and you're bootlicking
bootlicking how, or who, again generic statements with zero meaning
>you're obviously a boot licking troll.
more ad hominems
>have fun with your unlimited indians there in yurop
the emigration situation in europe shouldn't concern you

>I'm disatisfied with the disaster brought about by communist policies that have perverted basic constitutional rights, therefore more communism is needed
kys

>>107790398
>communist policies
which communist forced you to slave away for shekelstein?

>>107789088
While I wish it was true, it isn't. Just go to any work space and you'll see normalfags relying it on everything. The third world using it is just a detail.

>>107789088
India only leads the US in Chatgpt usage per capita by 10%. That's not a huge difference.

It’s seething furries and astroturfing

>>107790371
>but that doesn't make a jewish conspiracy
are you a jew? it was literally a conspiracy done by a jew
>it's a measure to combat illegal smuggling of migrants,
how does importing more migrants solve the issue of migrants coming in?
>it's a measure to combat illegal smuggling of migrants,
I'm not. I hope you take in a billion jeets because I hate you and immigration is always bad.
>musk is a single individual
his opinions are the same as other billionaires as seen by the mass importation of jeets into multiple nations and the mass hiring of jeets by the tech sector
>ad hominem
don't care. you are retarded and evil
>but did the wages actually get lower?
they did. see the white house link I posted in the previous comment.
>and?
there is no reason why Americans couldn't fill those roles. the companies are violating federal immigration law to import jeets to lower wages
>you are acting dumb on purpose
I'm not. most yuros are indian. that's why you love other indians.
>that's not for you to decide
IDK what they do in your third world country with a monarchy and shit, but we have a democratic republic here in the US and as such it is very much for me to decide as a citizen
>you get what I'm saying
no, I do not
> it's not a systemic issue
it is a systemic issue. do you think racism is fine when companies do it?
>one company acting bad
it's not one company. it's every publicly traded company. they bragged about how over 90% of new hires since 2020 have been nonwhite
>and they will be punished for it according to the law
I'm sure they won't
>it says nothing about h1b being a jewish conspiracy or it being a scheme to lower wagies
it literally says companies are using them to lower wages
>some companies abused the system,
every company that hires h1bs is abusing the system
>that doesn't affect you as you are not an h1b hire
it affects every American because it lowers wages you illiterate piece of shit

>>107790371
cont.
>that is something you made up in your mind including many of the other things you said
you said you aren't American. that makes you indian
>bootlicking how, or who
bootlicking the mega rich and tech companies, boot licker. you are one good desi dog
>more ad hominems
don't care, you're a boot licker
>the emigration situation in europe shouldn't concern you
it gives me joy to know you will soon be flooded with jeets
>>107790398
pretty much. all h1bs should be deported and anyone who hires them needs to have their wealth nationalized and be deported

>>107790453
>>107790596
source?

i dont know anyone in the real world who is mad over ai

its just terminally online twitter trannies and 4chan schizos, horseshoe theory in action

>>107791031
I'm sure a ton of people are mad over AI due to all the layoffs and hiring freezes in 2025 and the fact AI only produces slop

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>>107786093
>waste trillions in money and water
>people get fired left and right
>made the internet 10 times worse
>everything keep rising in price despite ai slop and the quality going down
>more massive surveillance
>let the environment burn, more data centers
AI fags told me AI will make the World better, so i guess two more weeks until i see it

>>107787822
>people working in an industry think that industry is good, actually
wow

>>107791060
was going to happen regardless of AI

They feel treathen by skynet impression of AI or like I robot movie

>>107786093
Classist paranoia. At the end of the day AI just another step into the automation of the workforce, the current fear now is mostly rooted in that it's threatening to replace "professionals" at offices and not just "low skilled labor" at factories and such like has been happening for decades. No, I'm not taking my meds.

>>107786093
I tend to agree with the leftist on Mastdon that generating videos with AI is unethical because of the hundreds of gallons of water it uses, that is why I never do that (vid or image gen). But as for chatting I use AI frequently. The anti AI crowd always says AI doesn't give a factual answer it gives what sounds like an answer. And they are correct to an extent. They ignore the fact that DeepSeek, ChatGPT, Gemini and Grok have good fact checking abilities constantly modifying what they are saying. A better way for the anti crowd to think about AI is the machine is giving something that sounds like an answer and is wrong but then modules come in and correct it over and over into it becomes more accurate, and this happens in real time before the user sees the text.


So the anti AI crowd is tribalistic. They are just waving a badge of loyalty on Mastodon when then condemn AI. Take them serious and listen to their ethical concerns but don't give into the mob mentality. People who are extremely anti AI are motivated mob mentality not logic. Just use AI responsibily via fact checking and admit when AI bullshits you.

>>107791472
I don't like communism, I voted for the president 3 times. but if the current system is only benefitting mega rich heebs, I think we should try a different system where heebs don't benefit

>>107786093
I'm copypasting this from the other thread:

Because nobody wanted or wants AI. It's just something for inferior people. Using AI immediately signals that you have no talent of any sort, no drive to learn a skill and fundamentally that you have nothing to say or do. It's something for the retarded, basically. The general public (normalfags) understand this implicitly. Those who are a bit smarter understand that AI is genuinely harmful in all possible ways, ranging from crippling your own creativity and mental abilities to being active spyware working against you.

If anything AI shaming should be a more pervasive thing.

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>>107791543
>They ignore the fact that DeepSeek, ChatGPT, Gemini and Grok have good fact checking abilities constantly modifying what they are saying.
pretty much everything gemini says here is incorrect
>Piazza wasn't removed
he was
>Pratt hit a grandslam
Pratt walked with the bases loaded to tie the game and Ventura hit a grand slam after him
Also I don't understand why it didn't just give me the correct answer. Keith Lockhart ran into Piazza at a play at the plate weird and injured Piazza's arm (idk if it was intentional) and that's why Piazza was removed

>>107791031
This is the truth and reality of it, but never forget where you're posting that.

>>107790371
>it was literally
crime done by a jew, not a conspiracy
>how does importing more migrants
it's to prevent smuggling migrants illegally and nobody said anything about importing billions of them
again the EU migration policy is not of your concern and you are changing topic
>because I hate you
not an argument, you are out of your mind
>his opinions are the same as other billionaires
source: trust me bro
>retarded and evil
ad hominem
>they did
for h1b hires, yeah
>companies are violating federal immigration law
and they will be punished according to said law
>I'm not
yes you are
>most yuros are indian. that's why you love other indians.
generalized statement with no meaning
>but we have a democratic republic
correct, which is why it's not up to (You) to decide as an individual, if the majority votes for it then that's how things will proceed, your link doesn't say h1b because your democratic republic thinks that it needs them, the only requirement is now to cough up $100k and companies might get a $100k fine for it, and again if I qualify nothing prevents me from filing an h1b application no matter how much you rage and seethe when presented with this fact not an opinion
>no, I do not
I expressed myself in simple plain english, it's a (You) problem if you lack in reading comprehension skills
>it is a systemic issue.
it's not institutional therefore it's not, one company acting naughty is not a jewish conspiracy against white men, go play the victim card somewhere else
>racism is fine when companies do it?
now what I said and I don't think that either, you made it up
>it's not one company
regardless of how many companies do it they will punished if found guilty, no problem here
>company that hires h1bs is abusing the system
if found guilty of abusing the system then yeah sure
>you said you aren't American
so anyone who's not american is an indian? are you american only with papers or by birth on american soil? is musk an indian?

>>107791012
>bootlicking the mega rich and tech companies,
you are free to point out the statements where I explicitly defend the mega rich and tech companies, otherwise you made it up (again)
>you're a boot licker
refer to the previous point
>it gives me joy to know
I usually don't get joyful from bad things happening to others but apparently you do
again EU migration policies are not of your concern and they have zero impact on you and they are not relevant to the discussion, specifically since the beginning I was calling out conspiracy theories and racism which are signs of low intelligence that you keep showing every single time you get to type something
you failed to explain in plain english how it's jewish conspiracy and why every h1b bad (because again, accorging to your own democratically elected government it's not bad and only cases of abuse of the system are to be punished)

>>107786093
interesting tool in the wrong hands (jews and jeets)

>>107791472
It's replacing cognitive thought with slop, independence with dependency

>>107797144
Didn't people say the same about television?

bcz, just like gingers, it has no soul.