lunduke is based
>>107787411Because rust fixes flaws that makes it hard for states like israel to make spyware.
>>107787486>jews>basedPick one.>>107787490>107787490That makes sense.
>>107787411i hope you do realise all jews and corpos want to rewrite everything in rust.At least be aware of that.Not talking about the language itself(that i couldn't care less i won't use it).
personally i do not care for rust, but does lunduke have any technical ability or is he a grifting charlatan? jannies should take these threads down immediately anyway.
>>107787601>grifting charlatanYes, he is just a grifter.
>>107787601The reason nu-/g/ likes lunduke is precisely because he's a retarded hack with zero technical knowledge about anything doing political yapping masquerading as technical analyses.
Because Rust reinforces the same old "do one thing, do it well" mindvirus that has infected software development since the autists took over in 1969. It's all about muh context-less byte-level allocations.
>>107787411search for gnomethey mindfucked him so hard
>>107787670It's better than Jeet-slop which is do everything and do it all like shit. Just say you're a jeet who got filtered by the white man's language.
>>107787670Everything you wrote is wrong.
>>107787411Isn't that the same guy who said that the internet as a whole should have mandatory ID verification just because people were criticizing Israel?
>>107787731>>107787796White men want nothing to do with your autism. We just laugh at you and move on with our lives.
>>107787832>Because Rust reinforces the same old "do one thing, do it well" mindvirusIt does not. Rust does not reinforce that at all.>the same old "do one thing, do it well" mindvirus that has infected software development since the autists took over in 1969.That did not happen. "Do one thing, do it well" has never been mainstream (even among people who claim to do it), and "autists" did not take over anything in 1969.>It's all about muh context-less byte-level allocations.That is not true. Only someone who has never used Rust and doesn't even care to learn anything about it would say that.
>>107787877>Rust does not reinforce that at all.So how many Rust projects out there use manual arena management with unified lifetimes all the time?>"Do one thing, do it well" has never been mainstreamNT: do one thing, do it well. Can only create file handles one at a time. Can only close handles one at a time. Initially, with IOCPs, could only *submit* requests one at a time. ReadFileScatter/WriteFileGather: submit either read or write requests for one file at a time, without error codes (which is something fucking libaio got right).UNIX/Linux/POSIX: same shit, different asshole. Can only open or close files/sockets one at a time. Can only mmap/TLB shootdown one at a time (best explanation I've ever heard for that behavior is that the retards want to be able to page out memory of processes who are actively changing their memory map layout, which is insane).It's so mainstream you don't even notice it anymore.
>>107787411>4 months agobaste loondook strikes againcrabs in ptsd, never to recover
>>107787486
gaslighting thread. kikes absolutely LOVE r*st & rustroons. its why then invented them.
the messiah shall return
>>107787411that is an exceptional jewactually not a scammy vile creature like these other guys
>>107790103He cries about open source developers not being pro-Israel and then defends Palantir for "combating antisemitism."
>>107787601>grifting charlatanHave you seen his attempt to create his own Linux?
>>107792795You mean "Linux distribution".No one in their right mind would make their own Linux *kernel* in the year of our Lord 2020 + V + 1.>unless they're severely autistic
>>107787601He's one of the og linux guys, has been talking about it since forever. Probably has a tech background but I've never seen any information about it.
>>107787411because it brings nothing interesting to the tablekeep using C and C++ like a normal person, both languages are growing faster than rust anyways
>>107787411The Jews love RustAll that's happening here is the classic "you must pick a Jew" option they present you with, where they make sure their people infiltrate both sides of an argument then demand you pick between them.Fuck the Jews and Fuck Rust/AI and any other pointless new tech.
>>107790103that award goes to louis rossmann. lunjew is just another slimy jew who cries antisemitism any chance he gets
>>107787411Lunduke is based and I'm tired of contrarians pretending he's not. There's nothing wrong with being Jewish. There's plenty of based Jews who are on our side with 99% of issues.
>>107787411he's just milking you off clicks 4 shekles... smarten up you fucking retards
>>107787411I love the onions faces he makes
>>107788021>NT: do one thing, do it well. Can only create file handles one at a time.>Can only open or close files/sockets one at a time.That's a complete misunderstanding of what "do one thing, do it well" means but there are operating systems that can open and close multiple files at a time, like OS/360 which became z/OS. "Do one thing, do it well" comes from OOP but there's nothing against multiple open or closing files in that philosophy. The idea is that "open" itself does one thing (opening files or devices) and actually UNIX/Linux doesn't follow that at all, like ioctl which does a whole bunch of unrelated things.
>>107794687>"Do one thing, do it well" comes from OOPhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy>Make each program do one thing well.>Write programs that do one thing and do it well.Not a single mentioning of OOP.>ioctlAnd yet it *still* operates on single sockets.
>>107794752>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophyBecause the UNIX "philosophy" people stole the idea, like they stole "everything is an object" and made up "everything is a file," but neither of those ideas actually apply to UNIX at all. OOP operating systems like Genera and Smalltalk were becoming popular and the next big thing and UNIX people wanted to pretend they had something like it already. It's just the UNIX version of the "we have food at home" meme.>And yet it *still* operates on single sockets.But it doesn't "do one thing" at all. It does a whole bunch of unrelated, arbitrary things.
>>107794816>UNIX1969>Genera1982>Smalltalk1972Besides: no, that's not why they did it. They did it because the PDP-7 had a pittance of the memory of a fucking 8086 (which was itself limited to 640 KB conventional RAM), and mode switching was relatively simple (only a couple registers would be swapped out). Wasn't the case anymore by 1989 though (release of the 80_4_86).
>>107794752https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/rename.2.html>rename - to change the name of something>also it changes it's location>also it deletes the a conflicting file at the new location
>>107787411compromises structural stabilitythat's why we've invested so much in stainless steel.if you want some chinkshit, then use rust, if you want something stable, use steel, C?
>>107794934What if I want to rename multiple files at once? What if I don't want the function to block?
>>107794923>>Simula 67>1967>>UNIX>1969But they did not "invent" the "UNIX philosophy" until the 80s after people already said those things about OOP and modular systems. UNIX is not as important as you think.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_concerns>In computer science, separation of concerns (SoC) is a software engineering principle that allows software engineers to deal with one aspect of a problem so that they can concentrate on each individually. Concerns can be separated in various ways. Separation of concerns in terms of time is the underlying motivation of software development lifecycle methods.[1]>Edsger W. Dijkstra in his 1974 paper "On the Role of Scientific Thought",[2] coined the term separation of concerns in relation to software qualities such as correctness and efficiency.>Carlo Ghezzi in his book "Fundamentals of software engineering"[1] promotes Separation Of Concerns as the primary way to tackle the inherited complexity in software production.>According to Carlo Ghezzi, the main benefit of software modularity is that it allows the application of the separation of concerns principle to system components, or "modules." Module details can be addressed in isolation; furthermore, module integration is treated as a separate concern that deals with the overall characteristics of software modules and their relationships.
>>107794936>if you want some chinkshit, then use rust, if you want something stable, use steel, C?C is like cardboard. Rust is like steel.
>>107794934The command is called "mv" (move) and the function is called "rename" for some reason (UNIX is not a consistent design). The "rename" function can actually end up moving something to another drive or just change its name in the file system without moving anything, which is an inconsistent design.
>>107795125>UNIX is not as important as you think.Riiiiiiight. It only influenced:>direct, certified descendants such as MacOS (Apple), AIX (IBM), HP-UX (Hewlett-Packard), Solaris (Sun/Oracle)>UNIX-likes, such as Linux, BSDs, and other microkernels (even if they claim otherwise)>NT on a syscall level (NtCreateFIle only opens a single file, NtClose only closes a single file, despite mode switches having been an issue as early as V86 mode)>Module details can be addressed in isolationWhich leads to completely state-blind code, where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand does - meaning that there is a very good chance two functions do the same exact things multiple times because the interface didn't export a capability.If you want to have a fun afternoon, go test how often SDL calls CreateFileA/W *on the main application file*. Completely gaga.
>>107795252>MacOS (Apple)The original Mac OS wasn't based on UNIX.>>UNIX-likes, such as Linux, BSDs, and other microkernels (even if they claim otherwise)None of those are microkernels and don't even have similar system calls. You're making things up in your head instead of actually reading documentation.>>NT on a syscall level (NtCreateFIle only opens a single file, NtClose only closes a single file, despite mode switches having been an issue as early as V86 mode)NT was influenced by VMS, not UNIX. UNIX didn't invent any of those ideas. FORTRAN and BASIC also only open a single file with one statement. Opening multiple files is older than UNIX too.>Which leads to completely state-blind code, where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand does - meaning that there is a very good chance two functions do the same exact things multiple times because the interface didn't export a capability.It leads to the opposite because both interfaces import the same module, so they reuse all the similar code and have no functions that "do the same exact things multiple times."
>>107795335>>107795335>None of those are microkernels>even if they claim otherwise>muh documentationI don't give a shit what your documentation says. I will print it out, take a dump on it, smear it in your face, and there is nothing you can do about it. The API is a clear message-passing one like you would design for a microkernel.>It leads to the oppositeI have traced and disassembled applications where exactly that happened. You have NO idea what you're talking about. Don't bother replying.
>>107795385>>None of those are microkernelsThey have nothing in common with microkernels.>I don't give a shit what your documentation says. I will print it out, take a dump on it, smear it in your face, and there is nothing you can do about it. The API is a clear message-passing one like you would design for a microkernel.You literally didn't read any of the system calls.
>>107795403Didn't I just say "don't bother replying", retard?Unbelievable. Can't even follow the simplest instructions.
>>107795414Unlike Linux. The hybrid LARPing as a monokernel.
>>107795414Because you're literally hallucinating and pretending that's reality. You're slandering microkernels by pretending something that is not a microkernel is actually a microkernel because you're hallucinating like an AI instead of actually learning about what you're talking about, or better yet, trying it out and seeing how it actually works.
rust is fine as a languagerust evangelicals are annoying as fuck
>>107795538I don't consider the opinion of certified retards like you to be worth reading.
>>107795593>I don't consider the opinion of certified retards like you to be worth reading.That's another thing you're hallucinating. Your hatred of Rust and microkernels is based on hallucinations and misunderstandings.
>>107795625>says the retard who doesn't understand how real software worksDidn't ask, go back to your idyllic books.
>>107795656>So how many Rust projects out there use manual arena management with unified lifetimes all the time?
>>107788885Bad news bearsI was starting to like him
>>107795642>>says the retard who doesn't understand how real software worksRust and microkernels were both made by people who understand how real software works and want to make things better.>program written in C is buggy>NO! C IS PERFECT! IT MUST BE RUST'S FAULT!
>>107787486Based indeed. Shitskin communism btfo.
>>107795709>C IS PERFECT!I wish. But, no, the people who made Rust were sick and tired of C++ (don't blame them), and the people who make microkernels (with VERY few exceptions) have yet to move past 1982.
>bryan lunduke has denounced nazismCringe>bryan is jewishCringe>bryan isCringeWhy are jews?
>bryan lunduke is based
>>107787486He's retarded and believes any software developed after 2005 is a political attack.
>>107787411Because rust is garbage.
>>107796075And yet it doesn't require garbage collection, curious
>>107796282Bro why cant you keep politics out of...Oh gawd damb
>>107796282What year was this?
>>107796289Killing the jew is not going to make me tolerate kids or women (a.k.a. kids).
>>107787411If the software is good and freedom-respecting, why obsess over who made it or whether it's considered chudware/trannyware/whatever?
>>107787411 (OP)lunduke is a jew who grifts for nazis in the IT world.it's the easiest and effortless way to make money.>>107787601trannies worship jews so that will never happen.and no, lunduke has never showed proof that he knows how to program. quite the opposite, he has made statements about code that could only come from someone who has never coded anything.
>>107795758>>bryan lunduke has denounced nazism?????????he's a zio.
>>107796847>A nazi reminisces in Der Angriff about his journey to PalestineThe fuck am I reading.
>are you now or have you ever been jewish?>no i stopped being jewish five minutes ago>are you jewish right now?>no>oh you wont mind if I check your EARLY LIFE on Wikipedia?>YOU FUCKING ANTISEMITE
>>107793634louis rossman refuses to mention the jew, so nah.
>>107787411Body mutilation competition...
