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>>107789508>brand new ryzen 3600 and rtx3060 combo for only $999
>>107789508>won't retool to make more of current chips>will retool to make old chipsyeah, i can see where this is going.
>>107789527because different fabs are setup for different hardware, all the higher end low nm ones are tied up, and the higher 8nms have space for more production
AMD wont let AM4 die. They keep pretending its over.>5800x3d is the last chip guys>jk its the 5700x3d>jk its the 5600x3d
>>107789508reject AIsloppareturn to AM4
>Successfully sends us back in time 6 yearsAI really is incredible. Is there anything it cant do?
>>107789557>Successfully sends us back in time 6 years>AI really is incredible. Is there anything it cant do?Bring Ed's mom back to life
This reminds me that Intel Coffee Lake could be deployed with DDR3, it is time for 14nm to rule supreme once again.
>>107789527>>107789535No need for retoolingNodes are never really superseded, new nodes are mearly added to a fab's capabilities while older nodes continue production.
>>107789596Maybe, maybe not. Chemicals, gasses, implant processes, all sorts of things can go out of use between nodes. It's not necessarily expensive in cash or man hours to switch back but it is in down time for testing and validation and certification. I think this would hit the photolithography tools the hardest since they depreciate the fastest and get junked soonest. You can probably do the same processes on the newer better tool but that just adds even more validation time and is under-utilizing it.
>>107789536They have tons of broken chips lying around still.
>>107789508For AMD, they probably still have Zen 3 dies collecting dust. Not sure why Nvidia is making more Ampere chips unless Samsung 10nm is cheap as dirt or they still have a number of unsold GA106 chips to pair with GDDR6 chips.
>>107789577Coffee Lake cannot support DDR3. The memory controller only handles UDIMM DDR4. You go back to Haswell/Broadwell for DDR3. For AMD, you have to go Pilediver and older.
>>107789557Im praying for COVID 2.0 to come and finish off the boomers desu
>>107789706iirc le racemixing tips man did a video of thatof course unofficial with chinese boards
>>107789706Well you should tell that to gigabyte because they made a 8th/9th gen board that supported ddr3https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H310M-DS2V-DDR3-rev-10
>>107789520unironically what the goyim cattle deserves.
>>107789706Then explain motherboards like these:https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H310M-DS2V-DDR3-rev-10#kfGigabyte even says supports up to a i9 9900KS on this DDR3 H310 board.
>>107789508You can see this as some weird reactionary movement to the fake and retarded increasing RAM prices because of AI.
>>107789744Biostar made one as well. Though this one seems to require it to be DDR3L.
>>1077895085600xi really dont need more than that and i do 3D as jobTech regression is overdue
>>107789508>this is the end>there will be no better products coming >anyone who got 40 or 50 series GPU or 7000 or 9000 Ryzen is lucky
>>107789508They actually never stopped making RTX 3060 This is because it's the best/cheapest entry for Chinese students (CUDA + 12GB)Y'all need to start realising USA/Europe never mattered to Nvidia.
>jeet_nationIt's safe to assume this exact story was posted yesterday without jeet_nation advertising his twitter
why are pclards holding back gaming with outdated hardware? ps6 drops next year quite literally
>>107789508If AMD make a 5950X3D, I'll buy one for my home server.
>>107789738and boomers are betting on ww3 to cull young men who detest them.
>>107790057Bear GPU
>>107789557Tell you to buy bitcoin in 2017 and sell at the top come 2021 or 2025.
>>107789508I want amd to backport zen4 and 5 to am4. I also want a stack of hbm ram to be included on the cpu. Whatever happened to that amd apu from back in the day that was supposed to have a cpu, gpu and hbm all on one chip?
>>107789539This! Return to AM4. last great generation
>>107789965>4 power phasedamn
>>107789536it was clearly over when the 5800X3D came out because everything else you mentioned is just a worse cut-down version of that chip
I know it'll never happen but I'd kill for a 5800X3D with the cache under the cores design.
Will the 3060 at least be cheap?t. gigapoorfag still stuck on 1060, I was gonna upgrade to a second hand before 2026s second quarter ended, but if rich and midfags are not upgrading to newer 5000 series then I wouldnt get their scraps...
>>107790117Zen 3 is 2 times faster than the dumpster fire in the ps5
>>107789508Can they at least produce a revised version? the Switch 2's Ampere based GPU contains revisions from the the Ada Lovelace architecture, and put in a bigger embedded cache like the 40 series, it made a huge differencr.Nvidia are probably too stingy for this, you'd be lucky if they made a bare minimum 12GB version, nope, enjoy being hamstrung by insufficient ram.
>>107789508And here /g/ was telling me that am4 was dead!Am4 is immortal!!!!
>>107789508Why don't they just go back a gen in ram but pair it with 5090s and just give them 128gb of ram or something.
>>107790117The ps6 will at best tie the 9070xt
>>107789508>make 3060 to tackle memory shortage >meanwhile 3060=12gb vram while 5060=8I want to kill myself with a shotgun because I'm tired of making sense and trying to make money to survive in this world
>>107792429it's likely more about the type of vram vs. the amount of it. older ram types can be made on different/older equipment, which may have more available production capacity than the latest stuff. though that doesn't entirely explain it, as both the 3060 and 4060 uses GDDR6 vram, so why not make more 4060's?
>>107792429>>107792487actually, the 4060 and 5060 use a 5nm process and the 3060 an 8nm process, so perhaps it's that, 5nm fabs aren't available so they want to make more 8nm stuff instead
>>107791655AMD was supposed to drop AM4 entirely as in no more Agesa and chips. They walked back on that when people complained online.
>>107789508the only benefit to this is that corpos will have to fucking optimize their software for once in their goddamn lives instead of just saying "what are you, poor?"
>>107789508is it an actual announcement or just AYYYMD cockteasing their fanbase?
>>107789508waitfags get what they fucking deserve
What's the point when DDR4 is getting to the same price point as DDR5 now?
>>107793571people are buying adapters to use cheap laptop sodimm.
>>107793571The point is a lot of people are already running DDR4 AM4
>>107793571Maybe people still have some DDR4 from an older build they can re-use.Easier to buy 4GB extra than sell a kidney to afford a whole 8GB in one go.
>AM4 will still be alive by its 10 years anniversary this September holy based
>>107793571Most people haven't moved onto ddr5 nor ditched their 3050s because it wasn't *and still isn't* worth it.There were no major upgrades, you didn't unlock an amazing amount of frames or better graphics and frame gen is so comically garbage due to both input lag and the fact that it would do crazy shit with fire/flame effects and invent random bullshit in the distance that nobody really saw the point in upgrading to a gpu that needs an anti-sag bracket and keeps catching fire.
>>107789508holy fucking shit dude, i was asking chatgpt what would happen to the consumer tech market if china invaded taiwan (fucking the chip factories) and it said old cpu generations would be brought back into production again, just like this
>>107793706>i was asking chatgptok that's enough Rajesh
we will never escape 2020. this is the new normal
>>107793706>asked chatgptif we wanted to hear from chatgpt we would FUCKING USE CHATGPTWHY WOULD WE WANT TO HEAR CHATGPT THROUGH SOME RETARD ON THE INTERNET
>>107789508can they at least die shrink it so my power bill goes down? amd hasnt updated their apu graphics since zen +
>>107793743No. Premium products use up all advanced node capacity.
>>107789817>/g/ shits on new gen nvidia>nvidia releases 3060So... we are the cattle..?
>>107793808i can go get a laptop with a core ultra 226v right now for $600, its on the heels of a 3060 and it mops the floor with a 3600, if its not saving me a dollar then the fuck is the purpose of it?
The state of things is fuckin' pathetic.
>>107793877>i can go get a laptopPlease do!
>>107793923>i can spend more building a brand new desktop that's already obsolete
>>107793706>holy fucking shit dude, i was asking chatgptstopped reading
>>107793960I suggested you do got a laptop though, the death of the desktop can't come soon enough!
>>107789508>Jeet_Nationkill yourself
haha just imagine if intel hadn't killed optane haha
>>107790117PS6 will have less RAM than what PC had as min standard for at least past 7-8 years - which is 16GB RAM + 8GB VRAM
I never thought it was worth switching from AM4 to AM5. I expected AM6 to be its true successor, but now we might not even see that.
>>107793720>>107793738>>107793983When AI comes into its kingdom, you'll be crying bitter tears, wailing and gnashing your teeth, when Rajesh survives through his alliance with AI and you're left in outer darkness. The future is Indian.
>>107789508thats great but there are no good games coming out
>>107793697wrong.
>>107789508>mfw bought 32gb ddr4 and a 5700x3d like a year ago for about $300feels good man
>>107793738I am so sick of seeing "I asked ChatGPT and it told me this...." as the start of literally every forum post these days.Same thing with email chains, somebody asks a question and the response is always "I asked ChatGPT and it said this..." followed by completely incorrect information.
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>>107795193Agreed, RT is better because it hides more of the fat nigger.
>>107789508Why don't they port zen5 to am4? They can just reuse the same ddr4 Io die too...
>>107789508This is what happens when you don't buy Intel CPUs
>>107794844It's so fucking funny knowing that investors think they've dug into some trillion-dollar industry only to know they're actually financing a zero-profit doomsday cult.
>>107791771Lol
>>107789557It's not sending you back in time. It's making your current tech obsolete. Pretty soon all computing will be done off site and streamed back to your device. And that will be a good thing. Imagine never needing to upgrade your hardware or tinker with overclocking bullshit. By 2030 your 50-series will be worth as much as a DVD player was in 2015. Building PCs will be a niche collector hobby like maintaining physical media libraries.
>>107789508YES THANK YOU AI, I CAN SELL MY HASWELL MOBO+CPU COMBOS WITH 32 GB DDR3 COUPLED WITH A GTX 1050 TI FOR 400 EUROS. THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME A LOT OF MONEY
>>107790117THEY USE LPDDRX TOO YOU MORON. THE CHIPS ARE GOING TO AI DATACENTERS, YOU WILL HAVE A 16 GB SOLDERED RAM AND 8 GB SOLDERED VRAM (GDDR6 OF COURSE) AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY.ps no joke that's the specs of steam machine that's launching for 799/899 usd minimum. Ps6 will be 1K at least
>>107790117>ps6 drops next yearlol
>>107796307sounds like a true cvckold paradise
>>107796307>Pretty soon all computing will be done off site and streamed back to your device. And that will be a good thingThis sounds extremely fake and gay
>>107789508This person reads the daily mail
>>107789577i jerked off to this
>>107789508How is this going to solve anything if the fucking RAM cartel isn't making DDR4?
>>107789508Just bring back the 5700x3d if you want to do something to help gaymers, that and the 5800x3d are realistically the only cpus that save AM4 users from having to get anal raped for 16gb of DDR5
>>107789508We're entering the true appliance era.
>>107789508They really do take people for retarded goy sheep. You don't want new stuff, that's for the AI data centers they are making. You plebs can fight over literal crumbs and they want to make more crumbs for you retards while these fuckers make crusty baguettes for their friends. FUCK THAT.
>>107789557Turn a profit.
>>107790305>I want amd to backport zen4 and 5 to am4.That would be insanely fucking sweet, AM5 is a huge clusterfuck.>I also want a stack of hbm ram to be included on the cpu.My dream is to have an APU with decent number of execution units (this will be coming with Medusa Halo which will have a 24CU "medium" sized version), with onboard HBM memory. It either wouldn't need RAM slots or it would work without any RAM installed. Yeah you can't upgrade your memory but in return you have something like 500+ GB/s bandwidth.But I realise now that even if they made such a thing, the issue would be AMD giving completely fucked up shit support for such a thing. Even Vega 56 had some games it just did not work with whatsoever throughout its entire support history.>Whatever happened to that amd apu from back in the day that was supposed to have a cpu, gpu and hbm all on one chip?HBM cost is very high so they are only using it for enterprise stuff which they can sell at 50x the price of consumer products.
>>107794844esl
>>107789508Please please, make it cheaper
