Long story short all the tutorials of programmers i watched online, never liked what I saw. They all look dead inside, depressed, robotic face and speech completely lacking emotions. And they are content creators-programmers. I wonder what real people who sit at the screen write instructions all day look like. One needs to sacrifice having a fun charismatic personality to be a coder right ? *John Carmack looks all right though. A bit nerdy but doesn't radiate sadness.
>>107795161>I wonder what real people who sit at the screen write instructions all day look like.Kids, don't write yourself off. Strive for higher things in life than modern day slavery. Don't become a code monkey. You will end up like the guy in the bottom right.
>>107795161Dennis Richie had it written into his contract that you could not talk or ask him about any stuff outside of work and lived at his parents house until he died. Programming is not for people with "normal" brain chemistry.
>>107795210>Dennis Richie had it written into his contract that you could not talk or ask him about any stuff outside of workBased. I'm at work to work not to make friends or help losers with no social life feel better about themselves.
>>107795161>Skill entirely based around being a prime soulless corpo drone>Guise why isn't the heckin' indian youtube tutorial charismatic and enjoyable like my vtubers?
>>107795161@grok show him in a bikini
>>107795210that's based as hell wdym. imagine having to put on your kneepads and suck up to your manager after work fucking lmao
>>107795161>I wonder what real people who sit at the screen write instructions all day look likeI mean isn't this true literally for 99% of jobs out there? Have you ever seen a construction worker smiling and so on while performing his physically demanding tasks?Truth is that if people had choice that wouldn't work on soulless jobs stuck in an office with a bunch of people they hate, it pays the bills and puts bread on the table so you shut the hell up and do the job because if you don't do it then there's a massive line of people who are happy to take your place.People are depressed not because they have to endure the living hell of sitting in a comfy office with AC doing click-clack on a keyboard, they are depressed because there's little incentive and no optimism for the future of their progeny and country.We are living in supposedly the safest and richest times of humankind yet suicide and depression rates especially among the younger population are extremely high.
>>107795161>John Carmack looks all right thoughFunny, considering his autism.
>>107795161Most programmers are normal people, if a bit introverted. John Carmack does not stand out character wise.>youtube tutorials1) They are making tutorials, the goal is not to be fun, but to be informative.2) I'm not surprised. Making courses is one of the most dull things I can imagine and content creation is a worse grind than any job, why else do you see so many professional youtubers go insane. If a "content creator" isn't a soulles husk when he starts, he becomes one after a few years.
>>107795161They look lifeless because modern programmers are in most cases people who don't like it but went into it to because of money. This applies even more for Indians and Asians who are forced by their parents to choose one of 4-5 careers pretty much.The people who make tutorial videos about programming are trying to escape the office. They are the type of video that any retard with a couple years of experience can make.People who actually like their jobs either don't make videos or make videos of very niche personal projects they made for fun.If you don't want to endure their negative vibes, just use books instead and talk to people with actual passion on online groups. You will get better at learning without getting spoonfed plus you will build some actual connections with people that will probably do well in their careers.
>>107795210source?
they get a bit happier when they turn into trannies.
>>107795287A lot of construction workers seem actually pretty happy around where I live, but maybe it depends on the country and area. Lotta people find construction quite satisfying since you are building actual tangible things every day with your own hands that will stand and be used by real people for many years. Money aside, the main drawback is the climate and risk of injury, but if you work at a temperate place that follows safety regulations and you take care of your body, you can minimize the physical long term damage a lot. Tbh I think the most bitter people I've met were either office workers, teachers or healthcare workers. Staying inside for a long time with people you don't like definitely fucks up people's brains. More so if you don't enjoy the work.My dad worked trades till 60 and he has always been mentally healthier than most techies past 35.
>>107795161> amateurcurious, above average intelligent> young professionalbottom of the barrel status wise, but will progress eventually> veteranneck beard, dreams of selling all possessions and joining a sex cult
>>107795161>They all look dead inside, depressed, robotic face and speech completely lacking emotions.Most people are like this.
>>107797595I was off a bit https://dmrthesis.net/story-and-question/He had no friends outside of his business colleagues, he rarely socialized, he did not have (nor never had) a relationship with anyone, he wouldn’t talk about/acknowledge discussion about emotional issues in any form. There were topics that were completely off limits with Dennis – mostly having to do with any form of personal intimacy. This was true for his Bell Labs colleagues, who speak of Dennis’ personal life as a kind of private zone where they do not tread, and true with his siblings also.Half the good programmers have shit like this in their background
>>107795161It's a soul sucking corporate job that you feel like you shouldn't hate because you make good money. Of course they look dead inside.>>107797618That does seem to be the case. Good for them I suppose.
>>107801286>There were topics that were completely off limits with Dennis – mostly having to do with any form of personal intimacy.why did I feel like you were describing me
>>107795210Based, if I was as important as him, I'd do this too.Every time I opened up about things I liked or did lead to scrutiny and ridicule first from my parents, then peers.>why did you ...?>why don't you ...?>what will it give you?>can't you just be a normal boy? our neighbors ...So when I could move out at 25, I cut out all non-essential human contact (except 4chinz), and quietly enjoy things I like in solitude.Maybe some people do not mean harm these days, but I am not gonna take the risk.
>>107795161We only have one real programmer in our IT support team and he is the most intelligent and least assertive team member IMHO. Not sure if he fully realizes the powers he holds. Maybe he does and is choosing not engage in rat race with his intellectual inferiors. Or maybe I am putting him on a pedestal. not sure.
>>107795161>They all look dead inside, depressed, robotic face and speech completely lacking emotions. Isn't that basically every adult person?
>>107795161>programmers must be extrovert go back to your shithole
intelligent guys.i guess the more you goes into exterme in iq the more you tend to have a personnality that deviate for normalcy maybe ?
>>107802824>Not sure if he fully realizes the powers he holds. Maybe he does and is choosing not engage in rat race with his intellectual inferiors.My guess is he is shy, has bad social skills and you are overstimating his intelligence.
>>107795161You're watching Rust tutorials aren't you?
>>107795161Video tutorials for programming suck. Text is superior. If you don't have the patience to read you don't have the patience to learn programming.
>>107803271I sort of agree but not quite. Absolutely you want a good book on the subject. That should be the foundation, but eventually you're gonna hit a wall and the book will be effectively closed till you figure it out on your own, and that's where getting secondary input from online tutorials comes into play.
>>107803271Multimodal learning by combining various forms of media is superior. Books are good but supplementing with video and exercises is even better.
>>107795161idk, i am a programmer but i never was a slave. I use my skills to take what i want, not beg someone for dimes.
>>107803271Text is indeed better because LLMs
People are different. Some are autists. The others are troons. Don't worry about it. Also youtube tutorials are the bottom tire of knowledge.
>>107803138Yeah 145+ IQ makes people divergent because they notice the bullshit
>>107803297What additional information do online videos provide that textbooks do not?
Anyone ITT is neurodivergent but afraid of taking the IQ test because it might end up in double digits? Imagine being weird AND dumb.
>>107803594Potentially different approaches, just like different books themselves.
>>107795161>One needs to sacrifice having a fun charismatic personality to be a coder right ?No. People who choose to become programmers don't have those things in the first place. Or they soon learn that programming is not for normies and give up.>real people who sit at the screen write instructions all dayFiguring the instructions to write, to make the right things happen is satisfying though. Feels like being a wizard crafting arcane spells.
>>107795161John Carmack is literally a sociopath. He's just so interested in computers that he stays on the right path.
>>107803877How'd you even know he's a sociopath if he's staying on the right path?
>>107795176So what do you want people to do? Become unemployed hobos?
>>107803949Police report from when he got arrested as a teen as well as other anecdotes about him. He's incapable of feeling empathy or sympathy but he's not interested in hurting people.
>>107795176Chad posture. I bet he runs for fun
>>107803981>Police report from when he got arrested as a teenMany pepple get arrested as teens for stupid shit. The teenage brain is a dumpsterfire, but most outgtow it eventually.I seem to recall American McGee was arrested for stealing a modem. He made something out of his life and appears to be a happy family man.>as well as other anecdotes about him.Like?>He's incapable of feeling empathy or sympathy but he's not interested in hurting people.Not having a capacity to feel empathy makes you a psychopath. A sociopath has said capacity, but it's only ever excercised towards a very few, very close people, like a child or a mother.
>>107804050>Many pepple get arrested as teens for stupid shit.Tyrone, please
I'm a programmer, I'm a business owner (the real kind, with employees kiddos), and I've had sex enough times to not need any more kids.I'm mildly concerned about the impact the hardware price rises will have on the marketplace but otherwise I'm pretty happy with the way things are going.
>>107804075I have seen enough code from "programmers" out there to not assume competence any longer.
>>107804100I don't work around indians so there's a whole lot out there that's in a firm "not my problem" camp
>>107804067Kek, but it's true. It may not be strictly signature nigger behavior like armed robbery or gang murder, but rather something more tame like trespassing or drunk shit.
>>107804108Your joint must be small then.
>>107801286thanks for sharing really interesting,especially that the "loner" thing happened after high school many such cases.Some people bound deeply with others and struggle to bound with newcomers,i guess he was like that.
>>107803647Where do you even take tests?
>>107795161The people you watched probably don't even like programming, so many pseuds that are in just for the money in the industry, in content creators and even in this board at this point.Try watching actual hackers, I recommend you try watching tsoding (on twitch/youtube)
>>107805845tsoding is a hacker?whats his background?
>>107806011He is a hacker yes.
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