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The AIs are making extremely confident claims that my business and the domain name it's served on is a criminal enterprise, and I have to argue with it and point out the lack of evidence for 4-5 rounds before it admits it was wrong.

The source of the problem is that the domain is a generic word (let's say cars.com) and the criminal enterprise (which once did exist) called itself, let's say, Cars Collective. But again, no connection to my domain name at all beyond the partial word match.

It's gotta be costing me a lot of money. Traffic from Google has dropped hundredfolds to now 0-2 clicks a day.

What would you do in this situation? If I start ranting about the problem on the About page it could be offputting or scary to potential customers.
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>>107795518
rebrand
its pretty much the only thing you can do
and you dont get rid of the old domain, you show a landing page saying "we are now xyz, you will be redirected in 5 seconds, or click link here"

bc what are the alternatives?
sue google + perplexity + openai ...?
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To make the whole situation even dumber, the crime group had their own domain name, carscollective.com per my example. The AIs are citing this as direct evidence that "CARS.COM" is the crime group. The sources linked have no references to cars.com at all, only carscollective.com.

>>107795550
I've spent years on this and it's a premium domain. Holding out some faint hope that maybe someone with a bone to pick with AI or google or something will write about the case and get the problem fixed. Suing megacorporations isn't really an option.
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>>107795691
sorry to hear that anon
this is bad

>someone to hear about it
maybe try to make some noise on social media?
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I didn't read the post, but the title of book you posted contains what is called a "SLIPPERY SLOPE FALACY!", sorry!
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>>107795518
blud released a book in the big 2026
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>>107795691
I am way too poor to have any decent domain so I am glad you spent a lot of money on a richfag domain and got cucked by Google.
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>>107795792
your generation is completely dysfunctional
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>>107795518
find an attorney to sue for libel. I am sure some attorney that hates AI would love to do this for free.
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>>107795518
Why not just sue Google?

Lol, sounds preposterous, but it's this exactly the kind of shit defamation lawsuits are meant to take care of?
If you even want to consider this option, save images of everything the AI is doing, cause they'll simply delete everything later.
Who knows, maybe a simple decease and desist is enough to force them to correct their mistakes.
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>>107795903
(not op)
this is a long shot but this could work.
heres how i see things:
op makes noise on social media
an attorney whos angry at aishit chimes in
lets say you do 50/50 on the damages
google will either cease and disease
or they will settle
social media publicity will also play a role here because your silence will be worth more
op + lawyer are 1M richer, each
google spends more on their toilet paper, monthly so from their perspective they dodged a bullet
and everyone lived happily thereafter
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>>107796269
>google spends more on their toilet paper, monthly so from their perspective they dodged a bullet
google spends more on their toilet paper, monthly so from their perspective they dodged a bullet in exchange for peanuts and a handshake
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>>107796269
I'm considering it, but weighing it with the fact that damages can't be proven to be very high (biz is a couple years old), and I'm european, and I don't like drama or meetings or social media.
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>>107796338
i completely understand it
i probably wouldnt have done all that either
i would prolly go with my first recommendation: just rebrand
but if thats not an option, what i outlined above seems to be a viable alternative
and the social media think is a key element in how i see things-

theres the dimension of how much you can damage google's brand
its gonna motivate them to settle
and then theyre not paying for damages, theyre paying you to keep silent, theyre paying to protect their brand
the calculation is:
how much are they gonna lose if you do anti-advertising for them vs how much would it cost to make you happy and move on with your life

if they go to court, yeah sure the judge is gonna fine them 50k instead of a couple millies
but they have been judged and deemed guilty. theres no two ways about the facts, because these has been established by a judge
50k is not gonna make you happy
and so youre gonna damage their brand as badly as you can. also legal costs etc
settling is the rational option. but that hinges on a decent social media presence, a free lawyer, and it is quite some hassle
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>>107796469
I just realized I can ask Josh from KF for advice. He has dealt with US lawyers from Europe for years, and he hates Google so he'll probably reply. Thanks!
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>>107796564
happy to help. godspeed.
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>>107795760
get back to the trenches ivan you're supposed to die in a foxhole from ukrainian drone fire lol
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>>107795518
>tech sector memed itself into thinking computers could never make a mistake
>Partially because they were running really simple code on something that literally only runs code bare metal, unlike humans who have to run it through 10+ filters before they start calculating
>Partially because tech bros are the same slack jawed consumerists morons as the rest of the lower class and incestuously gobbled up sci-fi slop who got all their stories by reading popular science magazines.
>Now we're scaling up computers and forcing math into faux pattern recognition and thinking "well it can do 2+2 so why can't it tell a murder from a public indecency case?"
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>>107795518
Not reading the thread beyond the op. Good job posting here, now start posting this shit on reddit so all the AIs can "learn" it.
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>>107800407
AI is beginning to learn from itself by being trained on slop.
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>>107795518
Sue
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>>107795903
>Lol, sounds preposterous, but it's this exactly the kind of shit defamation lawsuits are meant to take care of?

No. First problem is actually finding out who to sue. You can't sue the AI since it's not a person. The second is proving intent. Was the party you're sueing intentionally trying to cause damages? Then you actually have to prove damages. Can you equate loss of business/revenue DIRECTLY to the AI having incorrect data.

Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (1996) give a lot of protections to websites (even websites like 4chan which is good). But it makes sueing them for content posted on their sites nearly impossible unless they were posting it themselves.
If someone posted something defamatory on 4chan for example the victim wouldn't be able to sue Moot.
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>>107795518
cool larp
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>>107795813
Nah bro I'm pretty sure the peeps who can't into a video editor are the dysfunctional ones.
Getting a PhD is the equivalent of paying a company to train you in MS DOS operation for 10 years except the year is 2126
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>>107795691
Lol rich retard. Hope they steal everything from you.
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>>107804752
It's just a random noun, I don't own cars.com. Got mine for $5k 15+ years ago and I honestly should have just put it in s&p500 instead
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>>107804357
written word is best to express complex ideas because you can re-read the phrase youre reading
monetization-wise it doesnt compare, its not even close
and good luck censoring a book or a pamphlet

youre inferior in every metric, weaker in the head, and weaker in the body
and youre so retarded youre proud of your handicap and laziness
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>>107804977
Language is what transmits complex ideas, not text, the only thing text has going for it is that it's space efficient
>you can re-read
You can re-watch. duh. Text can't even explain simple ideas like to dunk a basketball. Text only gives the illusion of explaining complex concepts. You are a midwit if you fall for it.

Programming languages are specific languages to translate relatively simple ideas into machine instructructions, much simpler ideas than what midwits are trying to vaguely gesture at with language. Look at your post, all text, no substance.
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>>107805066
you never worked with anything complex in your life.
imagine a python manual in the form of a an audiobook
youre absolutely ignorant
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>>107805066
>>107805079
btw
i mentioned python because im fairly certain you worked with at least that, not because its something *actually* complex

now picture this:
you need someone else to connect the dots for you
youre that fucking dysfunctional
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>>107804357
So zoomers are proud of being illiterate LMAO
>nah bruh I ain’t reading no books, that’s cap fr, way too many words n shit
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>>107805079
>>107805115
>python is complicated
lol please tell your elder to cut off your slums' internet access
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>>107805137
>catastrophic reading comprehension failure
imagine getting btfod by 10 lines of text

youre mentally handicapped, theres no two ways about that
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>>107805136
after
>reading books is for whites
we present to you:
>reading books is for uncs
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>>107805136
>>107805155
Reading is literally useless tech. You might as well be proud you can format a floppy disc in less than a minute
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>>107805167
called it.
>Reading is literally useless tech.
even using a shatbot involves reading you complete unbecile
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>>107805155
Nobody who knows python (or any programming language) learned it from a book you braindead nigger.
>Imagine learning a programming language from writing programming, video tutorials and senior employees, and above all else maintaining your own large scale software project

Nobody "learns programming" from books, otherwise there school wouldn't exist
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>>107805187
>struggles to come up with any use for reading
>... chatbots...?
LMAO, chatbots are not useful. other than for Braindead unc trying to slurp the ocean
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>>107805219
>ad populum
are these "everbody" in the room with you?

also thats not what you use a manual for you drooling retard
what the fuck are you even doing here? you dont program
youre obviously too retarded to do other types of engineering
whats your tech-related business here?
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>>107805261
Get you're antiquated SHITTECH off /g/ unc. Go play with the other geriatric faggots elsewhere.
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https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/16011537?sjid=93630711506538213-EU#give_feedback

now kys
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>>107805617
>still seething
>40 mins later
in a decade ill get sucked by barely legal zoomettes in exchange for reading their bills to them
and you will be begging for food on the streets
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>>107805671
>If I learn to read, surely this will get me laid
lol lmao even
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>>107805671
unc, in 2036, the only barely legals will be alphies born 2018-2020 (depending on jurisdiction), the youngest zoomer will be 24 by then.

retarded pedo unc can’t even get his ages right
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>>107805709
i already know how to read you idiot
but as made obvious itt, you dont
and i intend to take full advantage of the fact that the older amongst you already have children. who will be even more deficient than you are
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>>107805734
>learn2read
>mind is warped by brownoid propaganda
Nah thanks senpai I'm good.
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>>107805721
>unc, in 2036, the only barely legals will be alphies born 2018-2020
yeah. i know. and?

holy fuck youre dumb
which is all the better
retard chicks fuck best and are easy
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>>107805781
You have and will never fuck. You are an autistic loser if you read, worse than a speedrunner desu.
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>>107805854
whatever lets you sleep better zoomzoom
for me, its cumming in a tight hole.
keep your cope, ill take the girls thankyouverymuch



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