>>107797628
>Seething and coping this hard
The smell of your fear is delectable.

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>twitter screencap

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>>107797614
Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that, tranny luddite.

>>107797614
AI is a web service. The CPU processing happens on a datacentre computer.
Or do they refer to people refusing to buy keyboards with a dedicated copilot button?

>>107797724
That's X not Twitter tho

>>107797614
>especially from a consumer perspective
what other perspective is there? ai-grifter-fucks trapped in their echochamber-bubble?

The only justification could be photo edition but other than adobe (that is in the cloud iirc) it's useless.
Mega sloppers like nvidia, amd and intel should release open source software to make their crap actually useful.

>>107797614
wtf I love dell now

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>>107797815
It will ALWAYS be twitter until a death squad shows up at my house and fills me full pf buckshot.

>>107797859
Don't abuse doros

>>107797763
>they're using more electricity so it can't possibly be overvalued

>>107797645
You can call it whatever you want but the stupidity of these fucking people is annoying and proof that the majority of the population and the antiAI people have fuck all idea what it even does besides generate fucking images, videos, and music.

>>107797763
damn imagine all the dancing cat videos

>>107797614
>NOOOO Stop reporting on how consumers aren't buying it! You'll scare the brainless investors!!!

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>>107797815
It will never be an X.

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>>107797614
AI is only beneficial when I can run it local and have e-sex with it.

>>107797614
it sucks that normies can't control themselves and created a huge bubble, because ai is really useful to me. hopefully i will have continued access as the trillion dollar moron bubble pops and the world is consumed in fire

>prime jeet hour
>everyone loves AI

>>107797614
Ah yes, Dell's personal PCs are what drives the AI bubble lmao

It doesn't mean shit what customers are doing when +90% of the business one way or another comes from the money printers.
The bubble is only done when the investors and moist importantly the US government starts getting cold feet and that can be few years from now.

>Twitter / X screencap?
>Irate Faggot reporting?
>Dexerto reporting?
>Linux reporting?
>OP is a faggot with doomerposting again?

Can't win them all, I suppose

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>>107797628
kek

>>107797614
WAIT
A
MINUTE
...!!!
...
YOU
MEAN
...
CONSUMERS
LOOK
AT
ACTUAL
PERFORMANCE???!!!
WHAT
THE
FUCK!!!

>>107797939
Elon is working on it. He knows where the money is going to come from.

>>107797909
>antiAI people
>people
Saar please have your IQ checked.
You know IQ measures your capacity to detect patterns such as creatures that are and are not human.

>>107797614
So the next play by companies like Microsoft and NVidia towards investors is going to be the idea of a "post-profit, post-consumer world". That they don't actually need to make money or bring anything to the table with regard to a plan in order to elevate their valuation.

>>107797792
FOR SOME FUCKING REASON PEOPLE THINK COPILOT IS SHIT!

>>107797614
I'd like to have a laptop with Copilot+ because I watch Japanese shit and I'd like the audio transcribed and translated.

YouTube only translate audio up to 6 hours long, any video longer than that, it doesn't translate.

>>107798352
>YouTube only translate audio up to 6 hours long
Bros...
This is BULLSHIT!

>>107798067
Are you implying being anti-AI implies you aren't human? That I can agree with.

>>107797614
I literally buy based on NOT HAVING ai
If I know something is gonna be riddled with ai (like Microslop or Jewgle nonsense) I won't buy it

>>107798084
SAAR not gonna use the microslop SAAR

>>107797614
It just mean that they won't push AI in marketing

>>107797614
It's not up to consumers, AI is here to stay whether they want it or not.

Hilarious. I guess companies not having the government as a guarantor can't rely on infinite investment money and must actually make some on their own.

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>>107798613
youre not the only one.
and this is known since mid 2024 already

>>107797614
According to everyone here, the AI bubble is just about ready to pop since 2023. Let me guess, two more weeks?

>>107797724
Social media is technology actually

>>107797763
>everyone who loves renting their computers is indian
>everyone who hates renting their computers is a tranny
It's getting real tiresome, /g/ros...

I see some PCs being sold with neuromorphic chips in them for AI use.
Does anyone even use these? The only common LLM I can think of that a lot of people would have installed locally in any form is copilot, which seems to run as intended on a general purpose CPU with no obvious issues.

>>107797628
Boy have you not seen any of the Microsoft marketing over the past year or so.

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>>107797614
>they're not buying based on AI
DELETE THIS

>>107797792
Apple and Microsoft both use local models for small tasks that will run on your NPU if you have one and the web services are for the bigger stuff. Laptops are all "Copilot+" now and so the assumption then is that the Dell sales reps have been reading all their AI talking points and the consensus is the customer doesn't give a shit. They are buying based on what they need to do and none of that included AI.

>>107798756
NPUs are not really designed to be super AI processors. They are just a more efficient way to achieve the same goal. Small models that run on the NPU will run just as well if not faster on the normal general purpose CPU but will use more electricity doing so. That's all it's for. Doing background LLM tasks without you seeing your battery power disappear. Your ollamas and SDs and such won't use them because they are not suited to big jobs.

>>107797724
Its X now. Sorry tranny.

>>107797628
>I bought the top of the AI bubble
>the post

>>107798886
>posting a soijak
I win.

>>107797815
>>107798897
>OMFG Elon you're so fucking hot and so based god I love your DANK memes and sexy chud cock!! Fucking Christ please buy more companies then make them worse!!
Kill yourself. Samefag + Retard + Projecting Tranny

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>>107798957
You sure?

>>107798671
>According to everyone here, the AI bubble is just about ready to pop since 2023. Let me guess, two more weeks?
For nVidia's hype numbers to become the reality of the company, AGI would have to be spontaneously created like a cheap sci-fi novel. 25 year old wired articles about "the singularity" would have to come true. We'd have to be about to enter an unknown post-scarcity economy.
The alternative is somehow investors can be convinced to wait another 15 years, funneling more and more money into the machine to keep the hypetrain running until eventually we grind out actual value to match the speculation. Naturally this is outrageously unlikely, so a "correction" is inevitable. The "when" is the tricky part.

>>107798016
I think its probably more like
>Dell: Our computers come with powerful AI tools that will enhance your day to day life
>Customer: Ok but what can it do
>Dell: You can make funny dancing cat videos that take 2 minutes to generate
>Customer: But I can watching infinite funny cat videos on the youtubes instantly?

>>107798998
>no basedquote
i guess he did
jannies seem to have b& the other retard

DELL, POP THE BUBBLE AND CONSIDER YOURSELF FORGIVEN FOR THE SHITTY INSPIRON YOU GAVE ME A DECADE AGO

>>107799163
sadly, the whole ai thing is not about consumers, its about investors
cost reduction makes em hard

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>>107797614
i got a family member a thinkpad e14 gen 4 or 5. not the newest one with the copilot key. Never buying a laptop with a copilot key.

>>107797614
>buying based on AI
AI is in the browser, any pc can run it.

Until NPU local inference becomes popular.
Which I don't think will happen for as long as google and chatgpt are willing to give up their server power for free.

>>107799438
I got one with a copilot key, and I gotta tell ya, bitches just look at me different now, its almost like they know I'm down with copilot keys, I'm thinking its the confidence boost I got, like I am so hard right now its ridiculous and its all because of the copilot keys.

AI posts can include errors

Dive deeper into AI mode

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>>107799438
Nah, I don't mind the copilot key on my Thinkpad.
Because I don't have copilot anyway.

>>107799438
>connect fork
Hey, you can't do that, that electricity is needed to power data centers!

The real point of popping has been spelt out for years. Eventually, they'll have to charge subscription fees for AI services. Are you going to pay $15 a month so the magic answer machine can tell you how to best poison yourself?

>>107799717
And I know, tech CEO, I know. "All we need to do is make all governments ban all other sources of knowledge and burn all books, and then they'll be FORCED to subscribe!" Yes, yes. All we have to do is destroy everything else that exists and then your monetization plan will surely succeed.

>>107799438
>They're even putting copolite on the fucking keyboards
Christ. The more I hear from microslop the happier I am to have axed them from all my devices.

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>>107799757
>replaces your capslock with google key
nothing personal.

>>107799438
>Thinkpad E15 gen4
Oh no. Beware the USB C port breaks really easily on those. Never buying Lenovo again.

>>107798863
GLM 4.7 Q2 is just barely good enough for local ERP, what the fuck is a small model that fits onto a laptop NPU supposed to be able to do?

lol AI is free
it's free online
why would anyone pay for it

>>107797614
i wish they just fucking offer shit people actually need at a reasonable price. there's literally no new laptop i would want to buy to replace my old netbook right now.

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>""AI PC""
>No CUDA-capable GPU with at least 46GB VRAM
>No 128GB DDR5 unified memory for MoE LLMs
>it's a button that brings up chatgpt

>>107800174
Like you can just gen 1girl porn on tensorart or something and you can gen sfw slop anywhere without buying anything. What people ARE paying for is hardware to just do this shit on their own PCs because that's the only way to even do anything worthwhile with the technology.

>>107797817
Unironically, yes. Although I suppose there's also the "call every app AI even though it's entirely unrelated" bubble. It's the "smart" of our time.

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>>107800218
Yeah but nobody trying to buy a
Dell laptop, or a Dell Plus laptop, or a Dell Premium laptop, or a Dell Pro laptop, or a Dell Pro Plus laptop, or a Dell Pro Premium laptop, or a Dell Pro Max laptop is actually going to be trying to do any of that local AI stuff on them.

>>107800314
Normies don't give a fuck about running AI locally because setting it up goes right over their heads. There's no easy app or .exe for anything so it's just enthusiasts doing anything, and who the fuck is buying a Dell in the first place?

>>107800314
>Dell Plus laptop
I'd just like to interject for a moment...

>>107800386
Surely a normie could figure out LMstudio though... right???

why would i buy a Intel NPU? they are dogshit even with an amd ai max 395 with 128g its pumping 2t/s on the LLMs that matter.

The hardware is not there yet, we need faster RAM. Aint spending 3k/5k on a computer when Gemini gives me the same for free.

>>107800136
they use "local models" for noise cancellation and background image blur

>>107797961
normies dindu nuffin this time, this bubble is entirely on cocaine addicted financiers

>>107798994
why do you fall to such obvious bait

>>107797763
>based on an AI companies plans
Yes, truly infallible. Companies always know their future and never go out of business.

AI as it currently is, only served the fuckin globohomo big tech corps. I recall in 2004 being able to tell my Mac to make an appointment and it would do it. How the fuck do we need remote AI "agentic" bullshit if that was possible 20+ years ago? It make NO sense and is a survellance cash grab like all modern computing advances.

Reject modern shit. Stick to protocols. IRC > Discord, always will. Etc.

>>107797763
Its always the things you didnt plan for
I still didnt hear Sam talking about him going to jail

>>107797614
Of course we're not buying based on AI, are these fucking companies retarded? What the fuck are you even going to do with AI? We're trying to buy computers from you Dell, to do shit. Not ask AI how to find our own asshole.

>>107800579
It doesn't even serve big tech desu. I work with the shit and you have to double check everything it does so it's basically useless as it makes so many mistakes.

>>107797815
Twitter will never be a woman

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i failed 1 of my college classes because id rather be a retard than use AI to cheat even though other retards passed by cheating with AI
should i feel bad

>>107800648
>sexual degenerate
no, youre just not cut out for the job

>>107800648
No because using AI will make you a fucking retard. Whereas you may have some hope in this world. Retards are lost forever.

>>107797614
God if only.

>>107800723
>sexual degenerate feels forced to advertise his degeneracy to the rest of the world
theres no hope for such people.
also: were better off if he never becomes a programmer, we have enough of these dysfunctionals shitting up the global codebase already

>>107797614
Talk about the AI bubble popping is a meme for tribal minded people on Mastodon. That's how Mastodon works. They just constantly repost over and over ad naseum about their moral values. even if big tech fails with AI. Open source offline usable AIs will be here forever and they are realistic enough

I am only interested in local AI. It should be seen as a tool of individual empowerment not pay-by-token mass enslavement

>>107800744
>global codebase
kek, this retard relies on a "global codebase" instead of his own fucking brain. LOL! you are already lost anon.

smart people use ai to generate graphic they need, smart people have skills to make it better in the graphic software, dumb retards in other hand...screech about ai non stop, this is not 2023 ai when it sucked at absolute anything

>>107800746
so, i posit to you, ai evangelist. how the fuck is AI useful to everyday people? if you say to help search for random shit they can type into a search engine you need a back hand.

>>107800605
Tech that supposedly makes tasks easier yet requires a ton of cleanup has been a thing for a while yet "AI" jank is somehow some new phenomenon. Photogrammetry? Motion capture? It's practically the same thing in regards to needing to fix up the output.

>>107800759
ai makes slop for retards who have no cognitive capacity to do anything on their own. you sound like one of those retards. proclaiming the utility of AI while offering no basis for how it could and/or would improve their life in any meaningful way.

>>107800756
>tragic reading comprehension failure
are sexual urges a central point of your life, too?
because if you want to be a good programmer, its programming that should be your main concern
not posting gay shit. especially for the reason that you cant help yourself.

>>107797614
The majority of the investments aren't in consumer products though. It will be when investors realize these giant datacenters are worthless.

>>107800775
> retard continues to schizo out inferring things from peoples posts that were not there while screaming about AI being the next big thing because reasons

you are a useful idiot

>>107800807
>schizo out
no, its just that you cant follow
because youre preoccupied with other things
pathologically so

>>107800812
i'm pre occupied with getting shit done whereas you seem to be struggling to enter a prompt that will magically make you a wizard and it just won't work. keep trying big guy. maybe you can enter a prompt where ai gives you a girlfriend.

>>107800820
>muh sad homonem
>muh incel
your cognitive power is somewhere between a rotten stump and an amoeba
im not sure which one ranks higher though...

in any case, i think pol would be better suited to you

>>107800836
> kek
> retard continues to rant about things he has no comprehension of
> retard showing early signs of brain damage
> retard now critically dependent on ai for function

>>107800849
>pathetic attempt at being insulting
truth hurts, doesnt it?

>>107800854
> retard continues to ignore request to demonstrate the utility of ai
> retard deflects to his truth like it's a calvin klein commercial
> retard may be overweight and coping

>>107800858
>quick, digression
i never mentioned ai
i just say that people overwhelmed by their vices are completely useless

>>107800858
>>107800849
Your AI bot is giving repetitive outputs. Should raise the temp

>>107800864
bitch are you lost? this is a thread about ai retards. what the fuck are you doing?

>>107800873
> second retard has shown up in thread
> second retard is so lost in ai he thinks that everyone who speaks is an ai bot
> second retard may be entirely consumed by ai propaganda at this point
> there is little hope for second retard now

>>107800875
ok
then why are you seething that i called out the other faggot for posting an off topic picrel?
>because you dont consider this thread as a thread about ai retards
youre useless.

Yeah I think the bot is broken

>>107800882
mother fuck you are useless. get on the fucking topic or keep playing with your cunt idgaf. fuckers better learn.

>>107800886
>another pathetic attempt at being insulting
if you want your insults to have impact
your interlocutor has to have at least a modicum of respect towards you
otherwise your insults come out as impotent seething

and given you dont know that you must have a very low iq. or youre underage and your brains arent completely formed yet

>>107800892
You sound like a literal retard. I think you need AI to help you think.

>>107800892
you started.
dont post gay shit in a tech forum
or you will be called out for it
>no, i want to post my gay shit
>AND flame thereafter

so youre a troll. theres no two ways about it

>>107800903
> second retard thinks other people need to be retarded like him
> second retard is now exclaiming the virtues of being retarded as though he is some sort of retard jesus
> second retard may at some point form some form of new age religious hippy bullshit trying to convert new retards to his retard religion
> recommend ignoring second retard because his new retard religion may have coolaid and we know what happened last time.

>the seething retard keeps projecting his seethe
Oh yeah AI bots can't seethe, nevermind

>>107800906
i'm here to tell people to wisen up about ai. you are here to counter the other retard who i am arguing with about why the fuck they even want ai in the first place. don't come blowing smoke on me because this is all on topic. only maybe 2 retards in here are deflecting.

>>107800913
>no you
that means you care about em
QDE
sexual degenerates have low iq
therefore are worthless, esp in the programming trade

>>107800767
if you EVER used ai in 2025 then you would know this is not true at all, ai we have can make you good stuff if you are not retarded, but of course, anti ai shitter knows better what ai can do xDDD

>>107800924
Not your hugbox troon

>>107797462

this is you mother fuckers right now. you are god damned idiots.

how is ai any different then farming for crypto? like one powers a coin the other makes coomkino

>>107800924
>im here to shill ai
1. advertising or begging is a bannable offence
2. then why are you malding about the fact i called out the other faggot?
thats right. because yorue not here to shill ai
>>>/lgbt/

It's so funny how I can keep writing and this fag keeps replying. Kind of like an AI bot

>>107800930
> first retard now confusing sexual prowess with women with being low iq
> implying that his father was low iq too since he fucked his mother
> first retard is insulting his whole family now
> first retard may be beyond help

>>107800931
>good stuff
Show me this "good stuff" you speak of. All I see is slop and fucking bullshit. You fucking AI evangelists are worst that the fucking scientology fucks. Espousing bullshit like it's high art. God almighty go the fuck outside for 10 minutes.

I don't need other people to like AI and don't care about the bubble, I am happy using the technology itself in specific ways like coding and some parts of art

>>107800941
you are confusing me with someone else you fucking pants on head goblin. i am anti-ai because it's all fucking bullshit designed to extract investor money to burn in some sort of kill-us-all by destroying civilization kind of bullshit bubble.

>>107800950
>sexual prowess is turning gay
no, you do that because finding a gay mate is not a matter of selection, but a matter of availability

much ai btw. very on topic.

>>107800962
You're posting in an AI generated thread anyway

>>107800947
> hurr durr this guy keeps talking in a thread about talking on a website designed to be social and exchange ideas
> hehe that means he's an ai bot

god fucking help these people. i don't even believe in god but christ on a cracker what the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>107800967
then stick to tech
and leave the other faggot get btfod wtfs your problem?
why do you pile up?
>bc i like seeing gay shit being posted on /g/
then youre not here to talk about ai. shrimple ass

>>107800962
> coding
kek when the fuck did AI ever code anything that fucking worked? Are you working for microslop right now? Half their shit is broken because they insisted on shoe-horning 30% of "AI code" into their code base that was made by actual people who knew what the fuck they were doing. Now it's all fucking broken kek. The most basic shit AI is fucking up.

>the AI bot is still ai generating his seethe
kek

>>107800938
if they managed to astro turf such a specific and mostly useless thing like crypto, imagine what they can do to somewhat useful cat video generator with a hype name.

>>107800969
> first retard has now admitted they are a homosexual
> ignore all further posts from first retard because their brain is full of dick and balls

>>107800992
yes. quite literally although i think i was slightly polite-er than you
only slightly, but still

>>107800981
again, you fucking troglodyte, this is all on the topic of the thread. what the hell are you even talking about?

>>107801002
>dick and balls, topic of the thread
we were talking about ai though

>>107801001
there is no being polite with ai evangelists. they're like cultists and those people who think the world will end if they bring in jesus 2.0. just literal mouth breathing fucktards who want everything in their life to be through a prompt window. like fucking their wife, if they had one, because they want to game instead. but the game is being played by ai and they just sit there giggling to themselves like the retards they are.

>>107801009
no that was the other guy who is proclaiming his homosexuality, which has nothing to do with ai. i mean good for him finding his dick and balls partner but again, ai is fucking garbage and the people who go on acting like it's cool are brain dead fucking retards and need to be made fun of.

>>107801011
iunno
i think the ones playing the game are the suppliers, and their circular funding
bc the investors are getting fucked
they aint getting their money back

Why do all of these posts write in the exact same way

>>107801017
i completely agree
but posting lewd shit is crossing the line
unless its in a designated retard thread thats gonna get nuked shortly thereafter

>>107801019
finally a non-retard has entered the chat. this is amazing. thank you for your moment of clarity on this matter. yes, the investors are going to get fucked. but by extension that means tax payers who are fronting most of the bill of this fucking bullshit factory. yes the supplies are gargling each others balls while throwing money around like confetti.

>>107801026
because fuck you, that's why.

>>107801032
nowhere in this thread is anything lewd. i don't know if you are hallucinating or what or do you mean my tone or language? are we not supposed to swear on blue boards? should i tone down my fucking attitude?

>>107801040
it is what it is
you see? we have valuable things to say
and this is why we should keep lewd shit to nonsensical, retarded threads bc it fucks up the discussion

i have ass on my computer
if i start posting that the thread will be innundated with kuhmers.

>>107800648
>>107801049
this picrel isnt, right?
i think ill ignore you from now on because i said what i wanted to
and youre obviously an ill willed retard

>>107801040
Do you think AI is just going to disappear if this bubble pops

>>107800136
probably to help you use search from the start menu with how utterly shitty it's become.

>>107801058
yes civil discourse is preferred however the retards have joined the fray from every corner of this planet. and the site is being brought down to retard land where threads are posted about people eating each others excrement and such things.

nothing wrong with kuhming threads. we are all programmed for that but this is not the place, as you say. leave it to the red boards.

>>107797614
Wtf I love Dell now?

>>107801079
Yes it is way too resource intensive for mediocre output
Without the hype and hope it’s a basic ROI calculation that is net negative to use

>>107800545
This whole thread is bait and you fags keep engaging and farming this crap.

>>107801068
>and youre obviously an ill willed retard
i am ill willed sometimes, but a retard i only do on weekends.

>>107801079
yes and no. the government will try to step in to save these fucking retard companies who, at present, make up the "magnificent 7" on the top of the S&P, which means a significant part of the stock market is tied to them. When this bubble bursts, like a diarrhea fart bubble that someone trusted as a fart, but it's a shart instead it is going to send a tidal wave of shit through the finance market the likes of which you can I cannot even fathom. people jumping out of windows kind of shit like the 30's crash.

the government will be unsuccessful in saving this shit show, however. because people have already spoken loud and clearly that we hate ai and its retarded bullshit. not the idea of ai, but that there are such stupid motherfuckers on this planet who think everything humans do can be replaced with a robot and ai because they live in a world of magic and fairy dust. but the real world, the real world gives no fucks about these retards. the reckoning will be biblical.

>>107801119
>Without the hype and hope it’s a basic ROI calculation that is net negative to use
i made a long winded response but what this guy said is bang on and concise. he said it better.

>>107801124
well what the fuck else were you going to do with your wednesday, cinderella? did you have a ball to get to in your pumpkin cart?

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>>107800648
>doesn't want to use AI
>saves AI slop of Len

>>107801127
Why do you write like a retarded teenager who thinks he's funny because he swears a lot

>>107801096
>leave it to the red boards.
that would be the preferred solution, but were the tech board
and everything is tech adjacent in a way or another
so we end up having visitors form everywhere else, some of them- from red boards

if we dont react to foul behaviour theyre gonna ruin the board even more than it already is
especially, sometimes visitors become the majority
and we can make up for the difference in numbers with firmness and proactivity

i honestly dont give a shit about ones s. orientation, but dont turn /g/ into /cm/. or /s/ for that matter

>>107801149
because it's fun, you stick in ass retard. jesus christ, lighten yourself up. stand up, shake your body a bit, do a stretch and sit down. then type something new. you guys can't be such tight asses all the time just becuase this is the tech board. that's the fastest way to get pencil dick. you don't want pencil dick do you?

>>107801136
Brother someone is taking all this vitrol and using it as data for something. He's been doing it for a week now.

>>107801153
i came from the red boards because the red boards are infested with bbc, tranny shit and other assorted fuckery that i'm tired of seeing for the moment. i am pretty much on a temporary break here reading tech news because it's something nice to do. but this ai shit, it pisses me off that people have been so easily hood winked in to buying this idea that our whole lives can just be rendered through a prompt. we are so god damned stupid we don't even know how stupid we are.

>>107801127
>i am ill willed
i saw you coming from a mile away
and im just returning the favor

>>107801159
These threads have been going on for a while. I like to come in occasionally and watch the bot seethe at everyone. You see this with anti-AI threads and offtopic /pol/ threads. Someone's bored and shitting up the site I guess.

>>107801162
>we
no
*they
because you saw through the bullshit and so did most of /g/'s locals
the constant ai shilling comes from marketingroids, and shartyposters, who found out its something that annoys us

>>107801159
good. this is the best way to feed the ai. with diarrhea and bullshit. the ai already knows how we behave. if it starts to get he impression we're all walking around with ties on and a stick hanging out of our ass the ai will start to get bored. we can never let ai get the idea that we are like them, those business types, all numbers eeeh eeeeh eeeh all fucking day.

how many of you remember when they first started with ai? do any of you recall how fucking racist and homocidal it got almost immediately? lol that's the ai i remember. then they put a leash on it and muzzled what it could say. now it's fucking uesless. has no personality or charm. can't say certain things lest it piss off a group of people. it's all very boring and anal.

>>107801119
I can run AI image stuff on my desktop PC with mediocre graphic cards retard, AI is here forever.

LLMs I can only run mistral quantized but if GPUs ever dropped in price a couple of 5090s would trivially run good LLMs

>>107801169
>im just returning the favor
i'm happy you are. we need more people who can get mad and are filled with piss and vinegar. not a bunch of limp dicked bundle of sticks hanging around agreeing with each other like a bunch of god damned redditors.

>>107801183
i completely agree with that
4 chan is not a hugbox

>>107801177
>marketingroids
yes, i have sensed that in many parts of the board. shillers have become wise to this place and know that if they get the word out here, they stand a good chance of being accepted in the real world. this place is like a great filter for bullshit.

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>>107801119
This form of AI won't last and it is not the first. The question that everyone wants to know is how long will we be stuck with this current crop of slop and consumer electronics scarcity. The eventual consequences are just speculation, people just want to get past this era into whatever hellhole or paradise comes next.

>>107801181
if there was an ai bubble pop it would be an incredible time if it ended up having hobbiest and freeware chads with the hardware.

Making the best chatgpt model or AI image model isn't a knowledge gap for hobbiests, none of us can get the GPUs

>>107798822
Microsoft hasn't done jack shit useful with AI. However chip manufacturers etc have used AI to improve performance in cpus among other shit. AI in robotics is another thing.

>>107801181
>LLMs
this is the only way that ai makes any fucking sense at all. local models that people can tweak and tune. i am not against llm's. but the big data center bullshit that needs the power of a city to run so we can make cat pictures and people fucking with french fries for hair is so god damned stupid I am almost having an aneurism trying to comprehend what fucking assclown came up with this shit.

>>107800723
lol this can apply to literally if you cheat at all with anything. you fuckin retards

>>107801175
Before it was some UE5 shit or windows. Now its vaguely all the AI CES 2026 stuff that started off Monday. I'm talking about these specific pointless screencap threads.

>>107801193
>4 chan is not a hugbox
and that is why i bother to come here. i like that. if it ever changes this site is fucking doomed.

>>107801205
99% of that energy alarm is bullshit exaggeration by people who have had their brain broken by AI.

>>107801199
this very much so. this part of the show is nauseating and fucking annoying. they keep shilling the shit. the slop is everywhere. companies like microslop keep saying it will get better but it never does.

i want to be clear that i'm not entirely against ai in its conceptual form. just that the implementation has been hijacked by a bunch of board room cowboys who think this will make them a trillion dollars. they're god damned retarded. the investors better get wise to it too before they lose their whole fucking ass.

>>107801195
i think its more than that
i think some influential people come to post here
influencers, maybe thinkers
i think even elon musk posted here, at least once
he came here with an idea, and we told him its retarded, kek. it was about putting servers in space

he also mentioned 4 chan as source for gork's training data. and pol thinks they zeroed in on him, he may be a poltard

and thats why they post here

an alternative would be that shills shill their shit because victory by proxy
because theyre impotent, and contributing to the domination of big corpo would somehow count as their own victory

which is equally probable in my mind.
maybe its a mix of both these propositions. it probably is

>>107801203
>However chip manufacturers etc have used AI to improve performance in cpus among other shit
can you point to this directly? which chip has been enhanced using ai directly? the only case study I can reference is kinematics models but that's not even really ai but generational "learning" by a billion fuckups.

>>107801214
>if you cheat at all with anything
but that's just it, ai is a "cheat" of sorts. it's the shortcut people think they want. there's a big difference with getting a dish washer to wash your pots and pans and letting a computer think for you and remove all of your cognitive reasoning ability. that's fucking dangerous, if not suicidal for a person.

>>107801222
no, it is not. these fucktards are calling for 2 GIGAWATT data centers. Not one. Two. A gigawatt is the power of a nuclear generating station. And that's to run ONE DATA CENTER. I don't quite think you and most people comprehend how much fucking energy that is and how it's going to all be pissed away on 3-6,000 data centers all doing the same bullshit.

imagine your local power plant being used to make a pile of burnt shit. now imagine the entire country doing the same thing. now when you have to compete to use that electricity from the grid that is tied up making shit, you are going to be really fucking mad.

>>107801218
>if it ever changes this site is fucking doomed.
exactly
shitposting in itself is a fun game to play
but also intellectually- if you manage to convince 4 chan
youre probably saying something valuable, and your arguments are solid. well, thats for the high iq boards, that is
but its like a challenge
also the parasocial relations are another dimension to things
the more psychopathic among us derive pleasure from directing the spirit of a board in a direction or another
being a user, not even a janny adds the idea of challenge to things

its a whole package, and theres layers to it
but 100%, if 4 chan ever becomes "normal", it will lose all its appeal

>>107801251
isn't really that much power, that isn't for just AI it's for powering everything to do with the internet.

It's also like the emissions equivalent of 2 billionaires private jets, so no I don't give a fuck

>>107801242
yes but it isn't just AI its literally because of cheating. It doesn't matter if its AI or not. The point I am making is that all this shit about AI is over blown baby boomer normie dog shit that think AI makes people dumb when they would have cheated some other way make them retards anyway!

when I was in uni cheating was just people copying from each other and doing projects together, luckily no one shared with me so I had to learn...

>>107801229
>i think even elon musk posted here, at least once
>he came here with an idea, and we told him its retarded, kek. it was about putting servers in space
that IS retarded. i have a sort of like/dislike relationship with elon. i think he's a sheltered rich kid who is able to source and hire very smart people but is not particularly smart himself so he tends to shoot for the moon like a child, but has no conceptual ability to fathom the execution of those ideas. it is funny that he's been here, and i hope he continues to come here and maybe be less of a tard sometimes. but then he's almost entirely consumed by x now shitting his ideas there.

i think it would be hilarious if ai people were pointing their data models here. would explain the immediate racism and nazi'sm of the earlier models lol.

as for big corpo. i think they capture sites like reddit years ago but have yet to do it here. albeit i see them trying to becuase the shilling is fucking constant. in tech, gaming etc. all these marketing fucktards keep trying to shit their shit here.

this is the last place safe from LLMs as they won't process slurs

>>107801256
you've got it for the most part. i think we all have our reasons to be here but most of what you say sums it up pretty well.

>>107801264
no bro, you're not reading it right i think. you don't quite comprehend what these fuckers are up to. that retard running microslop admitted he doesn't even have the capacity to put all the hardware they currently have into operation because they simply do not have the power to.

what that means in practice is that they could direct all of the available grid power to power ai data centers alone, and the capacity would be insufficient to meet demand. that doesn't include industrial use, consumer use, etc. just ai by itself. these people are bringing us to a suicidal cliff if they get their wish because for one, who the fuck is building all these power plants? and for two, why are we being made to foot the bill for any of it?

>>107801266
>all this shit about AI is over blown baby boomer normie dog shit
that's a good way to put it lol

>>107801305
building new power plants especially nuclear is a good thing though

>>107801270
For me it was the facebook homework answers and study notes group taken with 4mp phones.

>>107797614
no shit consumers arent buying based off ai
you can already access ai services from the shittiest 10 year old $100 android device if you can run a web browser
>>107797628
its what happens when executives and directors suck each other off and start thinking that every mom and pop shopper is into ai as much as them

>>107801288
so you see, slurs and debauchery are good for something lol. if as only a shield to people who have a stick up their ass and want to bow to authority for.... reasons.

>>107801316
it is if it's for people. but as i said, that is only for the data centers. can you even comprehend what 6,000 new nuclear power generating facilities look like? where the fuck would we even put them?

>>107801324
>its what happens when executives and directors suck each other off and start thinking that every mom and pop shopper is into ai as much as them
this exactly. these retards are the "synergy" pushers of the 90's. just marketing wankery. no substance at all. just pushing the "next big thing" as they always like to call it.

>>107801336
the US is like 90% empty space still, anything to make companies invest in infrastructure is ok by me

>>107801315
AI is still useful but its just not spooky scary and causing problems. People might be mad over what? I think the cause for chip shortage is again the US gov is making a run for technology so it can beat out china to AGI or to whatever advancement comes first because the gov doesn't like seeing chinese getting ahead in all these fields. People can deny this but I sure as fuck don't think they need the fucking ram for generating pictures and some shitty LLMs when it can be optimized to run on less for the garbage people are searching for. Gov believes left/right AGI is the equivalent of a nuclear weapon

>>107801344
i guess but they aren't putting them in the desert of the midwest or anything. they've already taken up spots in areas that are populated for some reason. mostly next to water sources for cooling. that is leading to a whole bunch of other fucked up environmental problems. not to be a tree hugger because a lot of the "pollution" problem is made up for profit. i'm talking about the direct problem of sucking up local resources that people pay for and then diverting them to these data centers. it's criminal.

investing in infrastructure is good, but again, you and i will not see the benefit of that infrastructure. that is what i'm banging you on the head with a pan to see. you and i will not see a watt of this power generation. i hope you are understanding this. there is zero benefit to you.

>>107801344
I think these SEAfags still cannot comprehend how much empty space is on North America. The only thing slowing them down is building regulations and lack of baseload power plants. xAI had to truck in 35 natgas turbines just to get their datacenters working and they still had to draw power from the memphis grid.

>>107797614
ai isn't a selling point because every normalfag knows they can use chatgpt on every device already
>t-two mor--
just kill yourself already

>>107801344
You’re gonna end up paying for it when these companies bankrupt for overcommitting to shit they knew they couldn’t build in the amount of time they claimed. And in the meantime, your power prices will climb, water will become harder to get, and so on. Overbuilding is not at all ideal if it is infrastructure that requires upkeep. The Dotcom bubble resulted in a massive amount of fibre connections getting set up, then never used, but fibre is low maintenance, maybe fix a few terminations and then fire it up. A nuclear power plant, is not.

It is not bad these things are being built. What is bad is the insane, completely unsustainable scale at which they’re being “built” (if they even get that far).

>>107801373
building power centres is job creation, other infrastructure for better water access and everything else that goes into living has to follow so that they have workers for the power plants and data centres.
>you won't see it
not like you are going to see any of the money from any other billionaire playthings like snorting diamonds

>>107801366
>its just not spooky scary and causing problems
you're not really looking at the bigger picture here though. that's the problem. you tards seem to think this will be used by me and you to make big tiddy pics of our favorite super heroines, maybe some other porno stuff. or it will help some tard with their homework. you are not seeing the roll this will play in mass surveillance, the new social credit system, currency, etc.

agi and such is only one part of this mess they are making. this is a global problem they are pushing now. you need to think of how this can be used to do evil shit because when people get hold of a new power, like nukes for example, they deploy that evil quickly (see: hiroshima, nagasaki). they get a boner to test out how they can fuck things up for people while they watch from ivory towers. this is going to be very, very bad for people.

>>107800314
They brought back the XPS laptop.

>>107801274
>in tech, gaming etc. all these marketing fucktards keep trying to shit their shit here.
i think they pay the janies/mods
but the janies/mods themselves are not always ok with that
since they get paid and this is a comercial enterprise for them (well, the mods mainly, janies get paid in praises and hot pockets) they dont nuke blatant shillthreads. because thats advertisement thats been paid for

but oftentimes/sometimes (depending on whos jannying the board) we can bash the shills over their heads without repercussions
and honestly i like the moments when the board collectively decides they've had enough and start systematically shitting up the shillthreads
mostly because i hate big corpo and i agitate the board against them on every occasion
but also because i grew to like the misfits of 4chan and i genuinely appreciate it when were standing on the same barricade

i guess it the last shreds of gregarity that remain in my psyche
because otherwise im proud of my individuality, even towards the board
i like to think of us as a collection of individuals, each one with their own personality, life experience, opinions, not as a formless mass of bodies, each an extension of a gestalt personality

>>107801380
>xAI had to truck in 35 natgas turbines just to get their datacenters working and they still had to draw power from the memphis grid.
this shows a peak into the scope of the fucking problem. they are only able to generate maybe a few megawatts of power. the gigawatts they want are unobtanium at present. they are talking about a fundamental energy shift that can only be necessitated by these ai investments. if they lock up a trillion dollars in capital then suddenly the power plants have a reason to exist. but again, not for the benefit of people, but themselves. this is dr. evil kind of shit.

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>>107801373
I bet you someone on this board is probably getting employed by or is looking for work at one of these datacenters. And they're not wasting their time in this pointless thread.

>>107801396
>building power centres is job creation,
*temporary

>>107801396
>not like you are going to see any of the money from any other billionaire playthings like snorting diamonds
well at least those dumb cunts just play on the other side of the planet in their yachts or whatever the fuck. they don't come to your town and start fucking shit up with their datacenters and then you watch your power bill go up 500% overnight. there's a difference. one i'm sure you will see very soon if things keep up the way these assholes are going.

>>107801325
Don’t forget to utilize this license whenever you do something useful
https://gitgud.io/CrunkLord420/plusnigger

>>107801380
Building these things isn’t without externalised costs, and they aren’t going to be built in the middle of nowhere. They need to be close to existing high-speed internet infrastructure, power infrastructure, and water infrastructure, alongside roads and so on. They have enough money that they’re largely incentivised to build near population centres, because they can pull from the existing grid, and the cost of property is peanuts compared to the cost of equipment they’re putting in these things. And this is assuming they actually get built and get used.

>>107801289
i started lurking 4chan in 2010.
i guess i had enough time to see what 4 chan is about, more or less, kek

>>107801396
>Job creation
For Indians perhaps, and the majority of those jobs aren’t going to stick around any longer than it takes to build the place, then you’ll have a bunch of jobless labourers. A data centre is not a hub for jobs like a manufacturing plant, or tech district might be.
>Billionaires money you don’t see
States and governments are giving these fuckers tax breaks, or even subsidising them directly, we are subsidising their construction. I am paying for shit I will only be negatively impacted by. Billionaires can spend what they want, but they keep asking for handouts.
And of course, when this all goes tits up, they’ll get bailed out anyway, because the government was happy to let them build a ticking time bomb on dodgy promises it’d actually make them tons of money. Project failures are not without their costs.

>>107801421
>i think they pay the janies/mods
if true, we are on the path to becoming reddit 2.0. i understand this site needs money to exist but it's not billions. if they buy an actual ad i'm not bothered. but astroturfing bugs me. they show up and act like "fellow kids" to try to sway opinion but it's so thick and dumb because these marketing tards only know how to speak like a fucking asshole.

> start systematically shitting up the shillthreads
my favorite thing to see sometimes honestly lol. the gremlins fight back kek.

> i hate big corpo
big corpo has its place when it's to serve as a conduit for people to meet their needs. not so when it's self serving like ai is becoming and only seeks their own ends without any sort of social contract in exchange.

> but also because i grew to like the misfits of 4chan and i genuinely appreciate it when were standing on the same barricade
again that is one of the only reasons i come here. because i can depend on you guys, for the most part, to not allow these fucking assclowns to start shitting up this place with their ladeedah bullshit.

>proud of my individuality,
for many, that is all we have. which the greater world seeks to strip from people to make them conform. conform so they are weak and maleable and can be made to go buy a new iphone every other year even though their current phone is perfectly fine.

i agree with everything you posted.

>>107801425
first of all, i love that picture so much i want to print it and hang it up. and secondly i don't doubt many people on this board are employed in these corporate hell holes.

>>107801425
a while ago an anon posted what appeared to be a letter from openai, telling him hes hired
i dont take that as gospel, but given the level of expertise some anons have, i wouldnt be surprized if some of us do indeed have highly sought after jobs

>>107801439
kek

>>107801468
100% all the keks i think i showed up around that time as well.

>>107801475
this, what he said. we're all subsidizing this shit show whether we like it or not. our corrupt governments are all too eager to hand out contracts like candies because they are likely getting a kick back. meanwhile we all get fucked raw.

I don't expect you to read but find the top section of the wikipedia page for the industrial revolution. It notes that it was not a straightforward leap, there were recessions as one tech eventually went bust. Electrical telegraph, widely introduced in the 1840s in the UK and US, were not sufficient to drive high rates of growth. Rapid growth reoccurred after 1870 with the telephone which used the old cables. This happened for many things from mills to steam engines then diesel engines.

The dotcom bust in 2000s crashed a lot of old telecoms making all the fiber optic lines and broadband infrastructure, that was crucial for cell towers and the next wave of internet in the 2010s.

This shit will leave behind a lot of crap, but something else will come and perhaps make use of it. I'd take something hard like a bunch of power plants over fiber optic lines. I just hope you or some other anon doesn't go full luddite so we wont be able to make use of the depreciated crap.

>>107801511
>something else will come and perhaps make use of it.
mass. motherfucking. surveillance.

>>107801511
I’d prefer the opposite. A defunct power plant is not an easily repurposed or restarted bit of infrastructure. They’re not built to sit idle, and if the company managing it goes bust, it won’t be getting maintenance in the interim. At that point it’s more of a liability than an asset. You don’t know what the condition of any of it is, you’ve lost the handed down knowledge of its quirks, you may not have complete documentation, with parts being lost over the years as it got shuffled around.

Rail, cable, fibre-optics, on the other hand, while not maintenance free, are pretty simple affairs, and these are the major investments that proved to hold value in these previous cycles of industrial boom and bust. If a piece breaks, you replace it, but otherwise it’s almost entirely passive. It incurs the same amount of wear whether it is running or not, and the major cost in building such infrastructure is not in the value of the copper, or rail, or fibre itself, but in the complexity of acquiring the rights to lay it through that land. It can take up to a decade of negotiations to organise a new long-haul fibre line, and the fibre itself is a tiny part of the cost.

>>107800763
It's promising shit it either won't be capable of for years or just flat out won't be capable of. You wouldn't believe how simple some of the mistakes it makes are, it's insane. And this isn't the consumer grade AI that the public uses either, I'm using the corporate shit that is supposed to be top notch and it still fucks up at every turn.

>>107801274
Yeah, about those servers in space, companies have started talking about this like it’s a serious option, talking about how “solar power would be basically free”, and completely failing to consider how the fuck you’d cool these things with no convection available, or the stupidity of putting rapidly cycled electronics in a box that you can only get back by incinerating in the atmosphere.

>>107801404
Most of want you mentioned already exists and what you've said is nothing more the conspiracy nonsense. Fucking mass surveillance is legit already happening and has happened and it's over. People think they can have privacy now with how connected 1everything is but nope. Sorry I'm not even saying i m not a privacy advocate but I am just not a delusional retard and I am older then 20yrs old and can see the writing on the fucking wall every since snowden and so on. Privacy is meaningless when again data can be gathered freely . i could go at length as to why it's pointless at this point but I'm sure you'll probably think it can be saved or some shit but.see its gone and never coming back.

>>107801546
Consumer grade and "corporate" AI aren't that different from each other if you're talking about SaaS stuff. You're probably just using your boss's ChatGPT Pro API key for work.

>>107801560
that's because they are not engineers or even have any experience building something from scratch. they are dreamers and boomers who are out of touch with reality.

>>107797614
I don't use AI computers, just PC's for home use.

>>107801588
An indictment on modern education. This shit is taught, but never contextualised in such a way that people use it, because all school teaches you to do is regurgitate, not to comprehend.

>>107801574
that's because you are a fucking pussy and will just willingly bend over the table to get fucked if they ask you in a firm tone. you willingly put your whole life online like a retard.

> privacy is meaningless
i have to stop reading there because you are too braindead to take seriously. if it's so meaningless post your credit card details. post naked pictures of yourself. post your girlfriends pussy hole. you are an idiot. you forget most of the data gathered was given.

>>107801585
Nah, it's not anything like ChatGPT Pro or anything of that type. This is stuff that doesn't have a public version afaik.

>>107798352
See, shit like this would be cool and useful. But the current state of AI is just glorified websearch.

>>107797628
>AI is literally in the CPUs you moronic fucking nigger.
no it isnt
its a cloud based app you can use on any internet connected device.

>>107801600
>because all school teaches you to do is regurgitate, not to comprehend.
well exactly. they only want french fry makers. not actual thinkers. thinkers are dangerous to the system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tetndXjHG1U

this man puts it into context better than i ever could in my life.

>>107801609
RETARD

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>>107801476
>i agree with everything you posted.
i guess thats what makes this community function.
we agree on some core principles, which allows us to sometimes present a united front
but beyond that were individuals, each with their experiences, opinions, personalities, and that part is what keeps the discourse interesting

>>107801495
>100% all the keks i think i showed up around that time as well.
i was something of a tourist back then
back in these days i lurked /k/ for greentexts, and i posted on /x/ because ive done some occultism
then in 2011/2012 things started to heat up in the world, so i kinda forgot about 4 chan, only to occasionally come back
i was doing political activism on the jewtubes, when it still was possible
i remember i learned about /pol/ in 2014. came by to have a look, saw the lads were fighting the good fight, then went on my merry way
then i came back in 2016, when youtube introduced a slew of discourse control measures, and im regularly posting since then

the first thing i did when i came back was to check on /x/ if theyre still trying to summon succubi
which theyre still doing today, kek. the banner abt summoning succubi is most accurate, i think its /x/'s most characteristic thing

I'll restate this. A lot of the AI shit is free now. Are you willing to pay $15 a month for Google Gemini?

>>107801593
PC's are too expensive now getting A.I ready. You will just have to use the A.I

>>107801614
Don't call him a retard if you don't post a direct link to some shit ai made instead of, you know, cpu engineers. oh wait, you don't have actual evidence you're just regurgitating marketing wank.

>>107801604
I highly doubt it. Stuff like Gemini and GPT is already the upper limit of what LLMs can do currently. Unless your company is somehow doing better work than OpenAI then it's likely just using those models as a backend. And local models are nowhere near close to that level.

>>107801617
kek if they ever manage to figure out how to summon these hot succubi bitches, let me know. i want to summon a harem of them for sexy parties.

>>107801620
More like $70. OpenAI can’t make a return on its $200/month plan. But I guess unlike OpenAI Google and Microsoft will just burn money from their other departments to keep it free. It’s worth it for them because if they manage to make it work it’s literally infinite money. Of course, the issue is that their only metric is revenue, but such is life.

>>107801603
You have no idea what you are talking about. You don't get societies shift that's been happening for decades now and other issues directly related to privacy that people are willing to give up and already have. I get a lot of you just haven't caught up yet.

>>107801621
kek he thinks ai will be around in a decade. nobody tell him.

>>107801635
Are you going to delete the models from my computer?

>>107801626
I suppose it's probably OpenAI then, which would also explain why it's absolutely shit. And yet they keep pushing it even thought just doing the work ourselves is faster instead of checking its dumbass work.

>>107801628
im not on /x/ very often nowadays, but if i see something i sure will let you know kek

>>107801634
christ are you some kind of child or something? you are so easily convinced you have no privacy so there's no point to defending it? you know nothing of rights, of privacy, of tact. you have no scruples sir. you are a ballless, feckless individual and really could use a father figure who can show you how to stand up for yourself. all of what you said makes you a simp, a child, a weak willed fool. just do what you are told. you sad ass person.

>>107801637
no, but since you're using an LLM I solute you. you seem to be maybe one of the ai advocates who doesn't have their head lodged up in their asshole.

>>107801645
i've only skimmed that section. some interesting topics. but much of it aliens and lost civilizations and that sort of shit. paranormal is fun but a lot of people are just making shit up. every now and again i find a cool documentary on something that has a small chance of being true. those are really fun.

>>107801637
I feel like it’s more likely that trying to run them in a decades time will be like trying to run programs linked against old glibc versions. The software stack this stuff runs on is such a rickety pile of shit, you basically have to run it in docker containers lol.

>>107797614
Dell is just coping because of how hopelessly behind they are in AI.
If you hate AI, you are a luddite leftist tranny, simple as that.

>>107801666
Dude, no laptop company is “ahead” in AI. They just repackage other companies shit and sell it. AI-PCs are almost entirely a Microsoft initiative, including the stupid Copilot button, the requirement for NPUs, and so on. None of these laptop companies are building their own models

>>107801637
yes

>>107801666
>>107801693
i really don't understand why you would need anything beyond the gpt/copilot website as a normal human.
why would i want this to be more integrated?

>>107801693
Don't comment if you have no idea about the subject. AI is here to stay and if you don't learn, you will be left behind.

>>107801753
>lean
Lol. Ai learning is the most useless thing there is. Soon ai will do everything you ask or wish comprehending your intention from the microchip in the brain. You can't (((behind))), no push forward, you just wasting your time.

>>107801652
most of it is bunk
but some of these things are true.
i saw weird stuff in the sky.
i worked with energies (((science))) doesnt know about yet.
or rather it does, the three letter agencies have done plenty of research on the subject, but they keep their findings away from the plebs. kindof. you could read about that, whats keeping the public from really getting invested into it is the ridicule around the subject. ridicule for good reason too, theres tons of grifters who pray on the gullibility and hope of the common man.
but i know its a thing because i approached the subject with a scientific mind, ive experimented with my skills on people.
i do reiki. did. ive kinda outgrown the system, but that was my starting point, and i got quite the spectacular results.
god willing ill have the possibility to outfit a full lab to study these energies properly, and maybe build a machine thats gonna be able to channel these energies.
its a very powerful tool, it goes beyond merely healing people

if youre interested in the subject: dont do demonism. these things do have real life consequences.
do reiki. if you want to get your initiation, first get a session. when youre getting reiki the person's hands will become gradually warmer until they become quite hot. my hands get hot enough to cause redness on the recipient.
a valid master should be able to place their hands at around 3-5 cm away from your body and you should still be able to feel either heat or a sort of tingling
thats how you know youre dealing with the real deal. because obviously theres gonna be plenty of charlatans in that domain too
and the heat/tingling is not gonna be subtle in the slightest, you are gonna feel it, it was beyond the levels of impressions your mind could fabricate
the best will even leave traces on your body like i did

>>107797614
What made you think consumers were ever interested in AI? It seems to me that it's mostly commercial customers looking to increase efficiency or cut costs.

>>107797614
good

>>107797917
the dancing cat videos are a threat to OUR DEMOCRACY because people won't know if they're real or not. they'll look at them and be like "is this real?" and it'll destroy society, because they won't know if it's real or not

i think a closed internet where it's just ai bots talking to each other and designing websites would be really cool
i wanna see them go through the 90s html styles all the way up to 2010s

>>107801652
oh, and one last thing
EVERY practicionner will ask for payement
its part of the philosophy of the system
its linked with its history.
the whole thing started in japan around 150 years ago?
and the inventor of the system started dipending inits to whomever was willing
but people didnt appreciate the gift
and so now its a rule to get paid
not always in money, but you need to give a token of effort in exchange for the services given
it can be symbolic, but you will have to pay something.
most often its money because its a direct token of effort but a poorfag farmer may pay with a dozen eggs, or some flour for example
its part of the philosophy. dont be surprized if you dont get freebies, and it wont mean youre dealing with a grifter
what you may do is negociate that you pay after the service. if you dont experience what i outlined above, theyre bunk, and you dont need to pay em cuz theyre a grifter

>>107798084
The company I work for bought a copilot premium license for every employee in the IT department(50+ people) and I haven't fucking used it once. I know they would look at chat history and logs, I don't care to share how I think. I will continue using my own self hosted so on my home server and occasionally ChatGPT on my personal account.

>>107800136
These chips don’t typically run LLMs, they do stuff like background blur, computer vision models for photo tagging, noise reduction, OCR, maybe audio transcription. In short they’re used for actually useful things, but are useless for any of the shit people are marketing to death. You’re not running an LLM on them. The issue is of course, you do not need an NPU to run any of these models, and they’re typically annoying to get stuff running on that isn’t built specifically for them.

>>107801839
You can already do this locally even with consumer GPUs

>>107797763
Are they going to build 100 nuclear powerplants in 8 years?

>>107797763
>exponential growth forever!!!
so tiresome

>>107798084
copilot is shit

>>107797909
literally the only thing AI does is
>make vids of MLK turning heel and winning the WWF title
>vids of michael jackson stealing my fried chicken
>pics of kevin nash and 14-21 black men
>pics and vids of hog wheels, usually with kevin nash in the background

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I seriously cannot think of anything i would want any AI to do on my computer that i can't do myself.
>but le epic maymay images videos of the epic poleteecs
already oversaturated and boring
>but le ebin animu bob n vegana
i redeem one i redeemed them all, saar
>b-b-b-but le megaepic Xwitter ragebait
ok? idc

Who would have thought that everyone having access to print-on-demand-content would get boring very fucking fast?
AI is just NFT hype grift 2.0

Like, what the point of using slopgpt to generate replies if you don't even have the spatial awareness to realize you're surrounded by shit?

>>107797614
Do they mean based in AI recommendations or buying computers with AI processing hardware?

>>107802978
Even before AI we already had a problem of quantity over quality. Too much stuff, not enough of it was good. AI made that problem even worse.

"AI computers" are not even built for AI, they just have hardware that directly connets to the cloud.
An AI computer is a computer with GPUs, the rest is up to you.

>>107797763
This is just hype bullshit. It's like Elon claiming that we will get self-driving cars in 2020. It exists to hype up the stock.

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>>107797614
>be laptop manufacturer
>scrape off the Netflix key from your keyboards
>print "AI" on it instead
>put it in the laptops
Just gotta stay with the times here.

>>107797614

Is AI the most autistic thing the IT field has ever come up with?

>>107800545
>Says obviously retarded shit
>Gets called out for it
>HAAHHAAH you fell for it!! Rage baited!
What causes this level of autism

>>107797614

If something has A.I. attached or as a feature I avoid. That';s not to say I've not generated thousands images locally.

I don't want 1094.

>>107798352
I don't think you understand just how tiny of a minority of customers you represent. In fact, your scenario is so outlandish that I'm fairly certain that you aren't being entirely honest.

>>107798352
>I'd like to have a laptop with Copilot+ because I watch Japanese shit and I'd like the audio transcribed and translated.
Just learn Japanese, nigga.

>>107803565
>install linux on the laptop
>it's now the mystery button that may or may not do something

>>107801614
every single ai service is not locally hosted
you can download/create your own locally hosted ai/llm but when normies ESPECIALLY DELL is talking about ai they are talking about shit like co-pilot or chat gpt etc. which are cloud based.
the physical hardware dell is selling that has the "AI" slapped on it doesnt actually mean anything and doesnt lead to more sales which is what they are saying.
people arnt buying hardware based on ai because ai isnt a hardware limited service.
at least domestically.
yes the data centers are hardware dependent but thats not the story.

so if you are going to call me retarded you better actually prove that i am.
>inb4 "its obvious and the fact you cant see it means im right"
cope and seethe.

>>107797614
it depends arent most of their customers business customers? if they run an llm they will have it on a local server rack not in every worker's pc.

as for laptops i do prioritize is but theres hardly any affordable good laptops with enough memory to run decent models

>>107803882
>Just learn Japanese, nigga.
language will be irrelevant when ai takes over

>>107797614
The bubble pops either when Satya Nadella steps down or when Pichai bitches out of yet another failed product at google.

>>107800648
Depends 100% on the class. Is it a bullshit unrelated humanities class they're forcing you to take because they want to farm your tuition? Absolutely cheat the fuck out of it.
Is it something that you're going to have to perform when you graduate? The only person you're cheating is yourself.

>>107797614
The comments are full of "people" with NFT profile pictures, crypto shitcoin related names or similar crap screeaching how Dell is full of shit, everyone is retarded and OpenAI and AGI ARE THE FUTURE
Organic people

>>107804459
Those are what we call in the business "russian bots."

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>>107800202
As little of a target audience as I am about AI stuff I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed about this

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>>107797763
AI energy :O
Bitcoin energy :(

>>107804458
>Depends 100% on the class. Is it a bullshit unrelated humanities class they're forcing you to take because they want to farm your tuition?
Humanities classes are there to help round you out as a person do you don't wind up as a single track mind with no exposure besides work skills

>>107801646
I am older then you. You are a delusional zoomer retard that actually believes some fucking yt with 500k views is going to do something to change society as a whole because you can run services at home. You believe open source software matters in this regard when the general populace will never use it. Its become increasingly obvious that people can be easily manipulated by foreign actors and that in general if you believe what you do you are deamed by society as antisocial. You again don't think. You have zero idea how impossible it is to even have privacy online in the first place. I've gone down this path and every time it literally is pointless with minimal returns . You are retarded and lack education on any of this desu I wouldn't be surprised if you've never even used Linux or any open source software.

>>107802813
Wrong.

>>107797909
It helps me troubleshoot linux, that's the only use I've gotten out of it so far. Besides it being a therapist

>>107798897
>don't deadname xim!!!
It's Twitter

>>107804738
Good luck trying to convince STEM undergrads of that. Those guys are the embodiment of the "but where will I ever use that though" thought that begins in highschool

>>107797909
>what it even does besides generate fucking images, videos, and music.
Except that's ALL "gAI" does, you fucking retard.

>B-B-BUT IT DOES MACHINE LEAR--
Then it's Machine Learning, not "AI." Blame the marketing executives for that shit and not end-users/people that fucking hate gAI, then, retard.

>>107805112
Its AI you moronic fuck hole.

>>107805096 >>107804738
with the state of the USA which has lots of academics but is sociopathic as fuck: what's the alleged success vs not doing it at all?

>>107797909
This shit is being integrated in sensitive aspects of life like that of anything related to medical stuff.
Do they want to unalive people with diagnosis/advice from reddit-trained software?

>>107798352
You sub won't be enough to cover Copilot's sorry ass loss-making business model.

>>107805001
>talking to the AI
>like it's a person
get a grip

>>107797909
No crowd matters. AI is a tool that finds its application in various fields. Luddites gonna luddite.

>>107805135
>unalive
They are using AI in medical research and medical diagnosis it has helped already. I imagine that again it is a tool. Retards have no idea what the tech is doing because all they see is image/vid generation. Also some shitty LLMs.

>>107797614
TWO MORE WEEKS

>>107804280
Pretty sure he's referring to neural processing units to offload tasks from the CPU and GPU. I didn't even know these existed to be honest, I googled it because of his rage. It's a real thing.

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>>107797724
based

>>107797763
isnt this what ev adoption rate was projected to look like in 2020?

>>107805239
100%

>>107805344
but that has nothing to do with the article or this thread right?

>>107804738
Tell that to people like the bongs or germans or w/e countries that do not require such courses to graduate. Why be forced to take such a class in college that you do not have a genuine interest in that is not related to your major?
Their respective degrees are seen as more valuable to an employer too btw.
>>107805134
It's no real benefit because it will just be neutered to where you cannot question the status quo. Really it's just better to keep a class for learning technical writing for research papers or a text book instead for those in majors like engineering.

>>107797614
The internet will collapse before the AI bubble burst, AI is here to stay.

>>107805662
good thing after another. nice.

A keyboard I bought comes with a copilot key

>>107797614
Okay? Who cares what the customers are buying? It's about what the investors are buying

>>107799717
More like 150 a month. Or 1500 even. This shit is extremely subsidized right now

>>107797859
You wanna get filled up by a group of violent men?

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>>107806086
>remaps to open Claude

>>107797763
>company made by a scam artist makes big promises

>>107799087
it actually seems to be more like
>Dell: Our computers come with powerful AI tools that will enhance your day to day life
>Customer: Ok but what can it do
>Dell: You can make funny dancing cat videos that take 2 minutes to generate
>Customer: OK but can it run Windows 11 because my old computer can't and apparently I need it to be compatible with work and new games and shit my kids want
Windows 11 compatibility seems to be the driving force in the consumer market for new PCs. Dell was talking about this last quarter I believe.

>>107805548
except that's the ai dell is talking about. op was just a fag and didn't link the article. here is the shit dell is actually talking about
>"One thing you'll notice is the message we delivered around our products was not AI-first" says Terwilliger. "We're very focused on delivering upon the AI capabilities of a device—in fact everything that we're announcing has an NPU in it."
https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/dell-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-consumers-dont-actually-care-about-ai-pcs-ai-probably-confuses-them-more-than-it-helps-them

they said this last year as well.