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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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My advice is that you should’ve been building in 2022-2024
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there's no good reason to get a 5080 over a 5070ti, right?
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>>107804194
not in a world where the 9070xt exists
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>>107804194
5070ti is going for almost the same price as a 5080 in some places, if it's within $100ish difference I'd just buy the 5080, otherwise not really
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>>107804129
I like how people are shitting on something that isn't even officially released yet.
That's what we get for asking for early broken things, people being too retarded to appreciate it.
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>>107804218
it's buttmad amdrones
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>>107804190
Thanks, that worked
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>>107804194
>>107804204
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>>107804220
>>107804218
People update their drivers, slap on latest DLSS because its what Nvidia and others recommend, and thats what they get.
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>>107804241
it's an optional features you have to select manually
nvidia doesn't even recommend using it, nvidia recommends using their game profiles instead of manual configuration
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>>107804248
>nvidia recommends you use the garbage game dev dlss2
lmao
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>>107804269
no, their own nvidia app profiles not game dev
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>>107804241
Normal people aren't even supposed to touch that shit
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>>107804283
got a list to these profiles? because its probably only gay AAA shit
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>buy cpu and mobo
>wait for ram prices to go down
S-Surely...
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>>107804129
FSR4 > DLSS4
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>>107804310
Anon they're going to go up
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Should I spend like $120 on a keyboard?
I have never really had an issue with typing on a keyboard before, but I dunno I guess my typing experience could be better maybe probably
I don't know if this mechanical keyboard meme really makes a difference
and maybe I should get something new and nice to go with the rest of my new mid-high end PC

Otherwise the money might be put towards saving for a VR headset if the steam frame doesn't cost an exorbitant amount or if something actually good comes out or if meta quest goes on another $200 off sale
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>>107804376
you do you
i bought a shine 5 the first day it went on sale and i plan to keep it another 10 years at least
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>>107804376
you can get a mech keyboard for like $50 these days. don't spend anymore. the only practical advantage is that they never break. i'm still using my 12 year old mech keyboard
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>>107804129
>non-nicotroon bake
what happened ?
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>>107804194
Plenty of reasons if you've got a 4K monitor.
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Ngl, this is a pretty cool feature for an AiO:hot swappable fan tray
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Q2 2027 current rtx 6090 predictions, 18 months to save up your shekels
we waitin'
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>>107804437
>cool feature
no, this is one of the few cases where:
>usecase?
applies.

doesn't even look like you can add your own fans in there.
>buy our blue tray for $99.
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>>107804465
It's lian li proprietary fans for specific product
You can buy their lancool memesize fans on aliexpress for $5 directly from their store
If these have no infinity mirror crap but just rgb and meme hotswap the entire tray of fans is probably $20
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>>107804465
>usecase
cleaning the cat fur out of the fans and rad
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>>107804394
>>107804416
Guess when you consider how long it'll last (hopefully) it's not a bad purchase. If I keep it for 12 years that's ten dollars a year. And I'd be using it daily.
I've spent more on less lasting things. Glasses don't last that long and cost more.
Okay I'll get it
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>>107804448
>he thinks there will ever be a new consumer Nvidia card ever again
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>>107804465
>usecase
Pull fans
Deep clean fans
Dust rad fins under the fans
Push fans back in
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Has anyone done a comparison of Price-To-Performance, including DLSS?
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>DLSS will make modern games playable and increase perform- ACK
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>>107804516
>he thinks nvidia will give away 98% market share for free
dis nigga
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>>107804448
i'll wait it out if its a first-gen chiplet gpu. there's risk of it being buggy or having weird scaling issues if so
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>>107804560
Huh, a free 10% FPS bump is pretty nice. Better than most driver updates.
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>>107804583
it's a 12% LOSS from the previous iteration
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>>107804448
Just like the predictions said the 50's super cards would be announced at CES or are these different predictions?
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>>107804569
5% of their revenue and falling, they're post consumer
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>>107804129
How much latency is everyone getting on their computers in gaming? I was watching yt videos and with dynamic FG DLSS 4.5 and also Linus yt on latency and with FG lots were getting 45ms. I've got an extreme OC with cpu/ram and card and only get 7ms without FG, and 20-30ms x4. I don't use it because it obvious.
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>>107804190
wtf is this sorcery?!
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>>107804596
But it looks better?
Increased fidelity at the cost of frames is what we do here...
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>>107804569
They don't care and the demand for enterprise is skyhigh
Assuming they do make gaming gpu, you can expect 1(uno) 6090 per microcenter on launch and instead of selling they will auction it, resuply after 6 months
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>>107803977
>From what I read it's going to use Realtek, not the Aquantia.
Yea cause it uses like half the power of the Aquantia.
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I think I bought the top bros
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>>107804646
Nicotroon is desperate now that nvidia officially confirmed that both preset M and L are used on performance and ultra performance, with DLSS 4.5 upscaling from 720p (performance mode) looks better than DLSS quality on 1440p same goes with ultra performance at 4k which now looks better than even DLSS performance

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/580689/dlss-45-super-resolution-faq/
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>>107804712
Lol we're nowhere near the top yet.
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>>107804599
>believing retard rumours
not me nigga

>>107804607
ai slop sez 11%
source nigga
>more money bad
dis nigga

>>107804672
>giving away 11% of your revenue for free
>giving away 98% marketshare for free
dis nigga
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>>107804529
Someone affectionately called the DLSS schizo used to post them all the time. Generally big reviewers refuse to do so for three reasons:
>image quality comparisons are hard, and reviewers don't like to work hard to provide in depth, quality reviews
>radeon didn't have anything close to dlss for three generations, meaning even on a value front there would be absolutely no way to shill radeon to the fanboys (e.g., RTX 3070 regularly faster with higher image quality than the RX 6800 XT)
>reviewers are dinosaurs and generally refuse to acknowledge and engage with modern technology (honey, how do i start the car again? i used to just put the key in it!)
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>>107804712
This is the new bottom
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>>107804646
60 fps is standard not 50. image quality is secondary to running properly. even consolebabbies know that
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Thoughts of Precision Boost Overdrive?

I saw it disabled in my BIOS and was wondering if it might be a free upgrade. Do you use it on yours?
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>>107804744
see >>107804725
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>>107804753
Took my 9800X3D from the 2nd percentile to the 90th. I think it's mandatory.
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>>107804744
Then it's a good thing DLSS 4.5 at "balanced" still looks better than DLSS 4.0 at "quality" in most games, so once you switch the DLSS 4.5 to "balanced" in game, it will look better than DLSS 4.0 on "quality" while also getting higher FPS.
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>>107804753
doesn't do anything unless you have a 16 core chip
for a free upgrade you need to overclock your RAM
>>107804769
it especially doesn't do anything on the 9800X3D, that CPU runs at 5.2 locked with default PBO limits
of course curve optimizer is still nice for saving some power
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>>107804725
>looks better

pointless if you're running in stuttery sub 50 fps

you'll get those hecking great screenshots for reddit though!
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>>107804788
Maybe mine is a faulty sku, mine didn't boost anywhere close to 5.2ghz without PBO.
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>>107804725
amd will catch up in 2 years
just you wait
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>>107804792
>I'm continously missing the point
If you're running at performance or balanced instead of quality, you'd be way above 60fps, while still looking better with no ghosting.
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>>107804805
DLSS 4.5 performance still has lower frames than DLSS 4 performance
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>>107804801
you might be confusing precision boost with precision boost overdrive
with boost disabled it only goes to 4.7
or you enabled eco mode
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Is there anything intelligent to say about board sizes other than to buy whatever has everything you want on it?
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>>107804827
Ahhh I probably am. Sorry kek.
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>>107804769
>my 9800X3D from the 2nd percentile to the 90th
lol what. can you elaborate?

did you just go PBO>Enable or basically went all in and did manual overclocking with the settings
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>>107804801
Most likely your cooling or CPU.

Mine sits at 5.2GHz all day if I let it.
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>>107804736
>ai slop sez 11%
Q3 numbers show gaming has fallen to 8%
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-third-quarter-fiscal-2026
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>>107804739
nobody cares about framgen, show us raster bitch
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>>107804739
But isn't DLSS and frame gen done by the hardware itself? So, it's a part of the GPU, that people are presumably paying money to get?
And reviews are just pretending it doesn't exist?
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>>107804832
has whatever you need + fits in your case
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It finally happened guys, my old Samsung spinpoint F3 HD103SJ from before Seagate bought Samsung's HDD wing has failed the quick self test and is showing bad sectors after almost 15 years of use. What HDDs offer both performance, reliability and are cheap like it did? Surely today the standard is about 3TB to 4TB for what it offered?
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>>107804846
reviews pretend dxvk/proton/vulkan doesn't exist even though its much faster than dx11 & dx12
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>>107804821
... Anon you're being obtuse at this point


DLSS 4.5 at Balanced looks better than DLSS 4.0 at Quality.

It doesn't matter if DLSS 4.0 could hit 85 FPS at preformance if it looks worse than DLSS 4.5 hitting 65-75 fps at the same quality level when they're both getting over 60fps.

You have SOME argument for games where you can't maintain 60+ fps even at "performance" mode, but otherwise you're just being retarded.
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>>107804821
Good thing now you can use ultra performance and gain both FPS and image quality because now in dlss 4.5 ultra performance does not break down
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>>107804836
Possibly, honestly I'm too scared to double check as I thought I overtightened my cpu cooler.
The CPU throttles pretty hard on a stress test, but in gaming doesn't exceed 70c.
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>>107804839
No, just you and your fellow autistic retards still believe this shit.
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>>107804846
Well it was recently confirmed that they recieve a significant amount of money form affiliate links (their audience buying gpus) and most of the affiliate partnership payments are from AMD gpu sales so is on their best interest that they dont make AMD GPU's look bad, we all know the truth Steve from hardware unboxed revealed that her daughter has a 5080, the card that he dogpiled the most from this gen and not a 9070 XT
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>>107804837
>giving up 8% of your income as the highest valued company in the world
>giving away 99% marketshare for free as the most valued company in the world
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>>107804913
talk to me next year when its at 3% of their revenue and you're still coping
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For a new 5060 Ti, is there any brand recommendation? Galax, MSI, Asus?
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>>107804607
>>107804837
>giving away BILLIONs of dollars for free to radeon so they can build better gpus
their current drip feeding strategy is much better for their long term prospect
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>>107799535
You were right anon, it got delayed, good thing is that the price is back at 254US$ so my order probably won't get cancelled.
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>>107804935
They're busy targeting trillions of dollars from AI companies and the US military
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>>107804956
and they're busy trying to keep competitors out of their game while doing that and not feeding them free resources to disrupt their market
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>>107804129
My RTX 5070ti just arrived

Time to play Dave The Diver
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>>107804947
Forgot pic
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>>107804927
cheapest one
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>>107804560
>>107804596
>it's a 12% LOSS from the previous iteration
Less of a performance hit when RDNA3 cards are running stitched-up FSR4 vs. officially implemented FSR3.1.
Those bag holders still want the better-looking upscaler.
Palpable sour grapes and all.
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so is all the good oled monitors coming out in february in the US? a lot of them have reviews from 4-6 months ago and they're STILL not out or under backorder.
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>>107804923
>moving goalposts
I accept your concession
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>>107804846
>But isn't DLSS and frame gen done by the hardware itself?
Yes, although the models the hardware uses are software. Theoretically, one card could have more TOPs but not have access to the best model (Radeon cannot use DLSS). The end result is a product of both hardware and software

>that people are presumably paying money to get?
Correct, and a vocal subset of "people" (you see them all the time in this thread) would like to deny the existence of these features for obvious reasons. Historically, reviewers have been willing to ignore those features for the reasons stated above, the least of which is not that they want to pretend that a particular brand was competitive. They did their audiences a massive disservice, and they haven't been held accountable for their actions.
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So what are the most stable drivers for the 50 series? Specifically, for the 5070 ti. I'll mostly be using it for Blender and not very recent games.
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>>107804560
>>107804583
>>107804596
Jesus Christ you people are literally braindead.
It's a loss if you misuse it, it's supposed to be used with extreme upscaling where it would NOT be a loss in performance but better image quality then DLSS 4 offered.

It's like you love pretending to be retarded or you actually like to misuse things and then complain.
I wonder if some of you even realize how wrong they are.
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>>107805055
A few notable ones like LG's 27" 4K RGB OLED panel (ASUS PG27UCWM) are scheduled for Q2 IIRC.
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>>107804927
cheapest one that has 16gb, out of those the sometimes you can find asus prime models close to msrp and those are triple fan with metal backplate and thermalpads for the memory on the back so if you plan to use it as a workstaiton card or running AI shit 24/7 you may want to get that one, outside of that i would look for reviews but if its for gaming you'll probably be fine with the cheapest models, if you pick a MSI ventus though expcet them to be loud and have to do some fine tunning in terms of fan curve, Galax i have no idea if they are good but dont pay premmium models unless you literally live in an humid place and have no AC
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>>107805046
>stitched-up FSR4
And keep in mind that the FSR 4 on RDNA 3 is inferior in quality to FSR 4 on RDNA 4. And on top of that, RTX 20 and 30 users still have access to the prior models (particularly DLSS 3 Super Resolution), which all have massively better image quality than FSR 3
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reminder that AMD stands for Another Massive Disaster
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>>107804956
Are we gonna keep pretending that Aymd is any different, this is steve from gamer nexus admitting Nvidia won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCrKGY9F1o
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So for DLSS 4.5 you use Preset M if you want Performance but switch to Preset L if you want Ultra Performance? Did I get that right?

Why is this so fucking clumsy lmao. Did they outsource this code to two teams of jeets then forgot and just went welp just put both in.
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>>107805071
The Delivery Driver when he takes it back
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>>107805071
576.80 is considered stable
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>>107805129
No, if you're on a 40/50 series card for 1440p or 4k, use Preset M on Performance or Balanced, you can try Quality as well, but it's usually oversharpened.
Only use preset L for 4k ultra performance.
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>>107805046
Meant to say DLSS4.5 incurs less of a performance penalty vs. DLSS4 compared to RDNA3 cards running the prototype INT8 FSR4 vs. FSR3.1.
FSR4 runs even slower on RDNA3 if it tries to emulate the FP8 instruction through FP16 and the shader fallbacks.
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man why is there no fucking release date on any of the new monitors announced at CES, is it all vaporware
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>>107805129
If the nvidia app is set correctly the game itself will pick the appropiate preset automatically, so if you are using balance or above it should automatically default to K unless you force preset M from the nvidia app,

Not only that but i want to remind everyone including a certain canadian that preset K did not come right away with the first version or beta of DLSS 4.0 originally, it was added later on and there may be preset K equivalent for DLSS 4.5 that works better and has less oversharpening when upscaling from higher resolution or outside of 4k upscaling (the oversharpening its worse on 1440p and 1080p monitors)
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Hey, what's the difference between the OC and non-OC versions of the 5060ti card? There's a $20 difference on amazon
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>>107805182
>If the nvidia app is set correctly the game itself will pick the appropiate preset automatically, so if you are using balance or above it should automatically default to K unless you force preset M from the nvidia app,
What does this even mean?

If you set your Nvidia app to override and use the "latest" model, it'll use model M, even if you pick DLSS quality or balanced. And that's how it's supposed to work.
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>>107805186
at best like 2% higher clockspeed for 1% higher performance
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>>107805199
Not when you enable PT + Ray Reconstruction.
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>>107805186
The performance difference is non-existent. Sometimes cooling can be a little better on the OC cards, but the 5060 Ti is a fairly low power card, so you don't have to worry about cooling too much. Sometimes you can find professional reviews that provide fan noise comparisons for the exact models you're looking at, for instance at techpowerup.
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>>107805199
Thats not supposed how it should work based on what the engineer team said, after the beta it should automatically default to K on anything beside performance and ultra performance at least until we get preset K equivalent of DLSS 4.5
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>>107805186
The core clock and memory clock is probably 15-40mhz higher.
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>>107805071
Just use the Studio Driver, it can game just as fine too.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mHapwM8Vab8

>m27p6s
>2304 zones
>looks to be glossy coating
oh shit nigga
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any anon with a 5080 here? what clockspeeds are you seeing it hit in games when at 100% gpu usage?
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>>107805215
No, you're retarded, you've been repeatedly called out for this lie

Shut the fuck up.

4.5 preset M is NOT just for performance. It was tuned for performance but it also works and SHOULD be used on balanced, or even quality in a game by game basis, ESPECIALLY for games with bad ghosting from DLSS 4.0's model.
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>>107805236
Nvidia FAQ, OFFICIAL ENGINEER TEAM RESPOSNE SAYS IM RIGHT , SUCK IT JEET

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/580689/dlss-45-super-resolution-faq/
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>>107805235
It should meet or exceed the advertised game clock so 2.7+Ghz.
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>>107805210
>>107805222
Already sold out, so I guess it'll be the OC. Thanks anyway bros
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>>107805249
this 4.5 debacle has really exposed a lot of you retards as illiterate third worlders
it says it is OPTIMIZED for performance as in you get the best image quality to performance ratio using preset m on performance mode dlss, however it is still better in terms of image quality across ALL qualities
L is also the best looking model but the performance hit is so high that you should only use it with ultra performance
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>>107805235
Depends on your 5080's cooler and stock power limit.
TechPowerUp's 5080 FE tested at around 2600MHz average.
This chip can be stably overclocked to sustain 3GHz if the card's cooler can keep up with it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/44.html
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>>107805271
enjoy your card bro, remember to properly tune it when you get it so you enjoy 10% extra performance without increased temp, power draw or voltage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyejyMt0u9A
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>>107805249
I'm English American, as white as white comes. My mother is a technical writer, and her mother is a librarian. I can assure you, my English skills well exceed your own.
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>'AMD PLEASE FEED US INT8 FSAAR4!'
>'I'll TAKE THE PERFORMANCE PENALTY! IT'S STILL FASTER THAN NATIVE!'
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>>107805273
No is not, the models have oversharpen issues heavily on any unreal engine 5 game or game that has a separte sharpened filter running alongside DLSS because the models were tuned for agressive upscaling
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>>107805250
>>107805277
That seems awfully conservative compared to non-FE 5090s which I'm seeing are hitting 2.8-3.0ghz in games
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>>107805300
why would people even want the int8 version for rdna2-3 when it looks so bad? are poorfags really that desperate to squeeze another year out of their rig?
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>>107805306
those oc 5090s are using 550-600w. many 5080s are limited to 360-400w.
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>>107804851
>has whatever you need + fits in your case
figured, thanx anon
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>>107805306
Because the 5080 FE stock fan curve is optimized to be bearable in daily use, it's not set for maximum stock performance.
The card OCs just fine.
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>>107805177
Asus can't even release the monitors they were supposed to release months ago
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>>107805336
5080 OCs great. You can get like 3.2GHz with minimal tweaking.
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does any of you own the shilled ktc VA mled monitor from the OP?
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i need to see how dlss 4.5 ultra performance runs and looks on a 5k monitor
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>>107805424
I have the M27P6.
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>>107805437
it heard from reviews that dynamic dimming and text doesnt work good on these (aparently firmaware issue), got anything negative to say?
also, any idea how it compares to a non dimming ips?
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Does this KVM switch exist? Looking to be able to pass a basically infinite amount of pixels, I have 3 QHD 240hz screens.
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>>107804129
Im having an issue with my PC.

Sometimes, it used to randomly turn off, but it stopped doing that. Now what it sometimes does is, after turning it off, going to bed, and then trying to use it again after I wake up, it doesnt turn on, so I need to power drain it. One time, I just touched the top of the PC and it started working again. Sometimes one of the LEDs in the case randomly turns on in the middle of the night.

But now, its not turning on at all, even if I power drain it. Tried three times and on the third try there was a spark in my PC. Is there an easy fix? And is the issue my power supply?
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>>107805480
Either PSU issue or you got something shorting the motherboard like a loose screw or mobo tray in the case
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>>107804376
As long as its waterproof, has replacable switches and detachable cable then get the cheapest one you can. I got a Ajazz one for 60 bux and its going strong.
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>>107804129
What causes this flickering? Recently I started to play Witcher 3 and I notice it in castles or mountains.
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>>107805462
I can compare it to my other monitors with are a pair of BenQ PD2700Qs, that released 10 years ago and were pretty budget when I bought them.
Compared to them, it's way better!

Dynamic dimming and general text performance seems fine. It's definitely not perfect. You can see a little glowy effect around postboxes 4chan's tomorrow theme, for example. But, you kinda just get used to it, and it only really becomes noticeable on internet browsing. It sometimes happens if I'm playing a game with a really dark scene, and the crosshair is white. You can see a little glow around the crosshair as the dimming zones around it light up.

It's pretty minor, it's not quite OLED quality. But, at 1/3 the cost of a good OLED, you do have to accept some drawbacks.

HDR is great. Coming from an old monitor to having HDR is really nice. HDR on this panel especially is really bright, and there's been scenes where it's pretty flash-banging and difficult to stare at directly. Overall, I really like the monitor. I kinda got it because my old one broke, and I needed something but didn't have a lot of cash at the time. So, I had tempered expectations, but it exceeded them by quite a lot.
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>>107804376
>>107805502
ymmv I had an Ajazz keeb and it shorted out and zapped me
it is your primary way to interface with the computer, worth getting a good one, I use Logitech MX mechanical.
I would stick to known brands. Logitech, Ducky and Leopold make good keybs.
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>>107804376
>Should I spend like $120 on a keyboard?
If you really like it.

If you're a coder or engineer or anybody that does stuff with numbers, you'll want the numpad.
Also important for some games.
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>>107805505
LOD/Mitmap Bias issue, it sometimes happens when using these upscalers.
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Any suggestions for a good linux workstation build? I don't need a gpu as it will not be used for any major gaming.

Prices seem to be going nuts so I would like to keep it a budget build, but i dont want a potato either.
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>>107805534
>I would stick to known brands
I'm a huge fan of Roccat.
I used to be Team Logitech but have just replaced too many Logitech products over the years and their support is terrible.
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>>107805533
thanks

does anyone have the t6 va panel? can you game with that?
>>107805234
>double the dimming zones next generation
looks like the wait continues, fuck
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Reminder that by xer own admission, nicotroon was like 12yo when this aired https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8NUtM4sexc
Xhe was used by both amd marketing and the grifter techtubers.
I implore you to be kind and understanding senpais.
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>>107805534
Guess I've been lucky idk. I had a Hexgears mechanical keyboard for 5 years prior. That one still works perfectly too, only bought this Ajazz cause I was bored and it had an LCD screen.
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>>107805585
>looks like the wait continues, fuck
you have 8 million dimming zones right now
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>>107805505
I'm guessing it's because people are testing it on games without native DLSS4 optimizations.
Witcher 3 and RDR2 are tuned for DLSS2.x, a model override won't look as good compared to titles that were designed around DLSS4.
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best gpu for 1k to 1.3k yuros in yurop? looking at 5080s primarily, found an MSI Ventus 3x OC one but i read something about them frying themselves idk
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>>107805626
just get a 5070ti. do you think its worth the premium for 10% more fps?
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>>107805604
from my limited research it seems oled is complete trash.
half the brightness of my ancient ips panel that i never use past 40%, but apparently OLED at 100% is a sure way to fry it in a couple years
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>>107805462
People recommend you to turn the local dimming zones off for SDR content for most miniLED monitors.
Skip KTC if you expect user-upgradeable firmware; treat the factory shipped version to be the final/complete one.
https://us.ktcplay.com/pages/user-manual
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>>107805681
if it's 10% more price for 10% more performance then yeah i think it's worth it. this will be my last GPU until china figures out how to mass produce this stuff in 2030
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>>107805681
This is hard for autistic people
>> b-but, b-but, this ones numbers are bigger!!!!
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>>107805686
OLED is only considered low brightness because there are LCDs bright as the sun.
You wouldn't use an OLED at full brightness unless you really hate your eyes.
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>>107805707
>>107804231
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>>107805686
oled is 100% worth it as long as you have IQ higher than room temperature.
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>>107805686
let's unpack this
>half the brightness of my ancient ips panel that i never use past 40%
is this your only metric? I mean I guess maybe
G5 beats miniled TVs kek
>but apparently OLED at 100% is a sure way to fry it in a couple years
rtings testing show that miniled (tvs) die out earlier than oleds and suffer catastrophic failure way earlier, so allegedly it's the opposite
>it seems oled is complete trash.
slow pixeltransitions, per-monitor-dimming-algo that you rely on to not be shit (its shit anyway), bloom, lag, viewing angles, everything else?
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Can someone give me a perfect optimized fan curve I can use?
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>>107805770
for what?
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>>107805761
ok, so your point is everything else is even worse, quite the convincing sales pitch you got there.
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>>107805715
I've been wondering
I had a Dell G2724D, it says the max brightness on it of 400 nits
And I used it at like 30% brightness (I don't think the screen turned off at 0% so I mean I guess that not actually 30% but still)

This seems standard too, I'm looking at a list of montior see pic

And apparently OLEDs get like 1000 nits seems to be the standard
So that means it's over twice the max brightness of am IPS. And that's still considered low brightness? I dunno something seems off here. I must be missing something because if OLEDs have low brightness than the average IPS would be considered straight unusable
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>>107805795
on miniled yeah was the opposite
miniled has more brightness, what else?
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>>107805777
One for everything. I'm tired of quiet mode not being good for gaming. I'm tired of gaming mode too noisy for desktop.
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Is there a good 3 pin DC fan controller/hub that I can buy and install in my case, such as on the front 5.25 bay?
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>>107805815
And the new woled says it has 1500 nits, this is almost 4 times the IPS monitor max
It should blind you
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>>107805815
fullscreen the old ones are like 250nits, new ones are like 300nits full screen
1000 nits is tiny peaks on hdr
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>>107805770
Everyone's ears and hearing sensitivity are different.
If you want the fan curve to focus on minimizing noise:
0 ~ 60°C: Set it to the fastest fan RPM where you can barely hear the fans running.
Between 60°C and 85°C: test things out, and decide on whether you want more cooling performance or a quieter system
85°C and over: set it above 80% or even at 100% fan RPM if there's a big difference in cooling between the two speeds.

https://support.arctic.de/en/pwm-settings
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>>107805852
Set your all fans at the highest rpm your ears can tolerate at a static rpm while also not hitting TJMAX temperature by measuring your components with HWinfo64. Then you can scale lower from there the PC will only get quieter and it's safe as long as you don't exceed that TJMAX.
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>>107805730
ok i didnt realize there was such a strong disconnect between price and performance with this gen. usually it's linear but 5070 TIs are about 800€ while the most viable 5080s in stock are MSI Ventus ones and PNY ones for 1100€. so like 35% more cost for 15-20% more performance?? kinda cringe

i might still order the 5080 because of how fucked the GPU market will be for the next 5 years
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>>107805921
only 12% more performance*
yes its cringe because the 5080 was originally supposed to have 24gb vram to justify the 33% price hike
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I'm wondering if getting a 5090 ROG Astral at $3700 is a good price
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>>107805815
It's not that simple; contrast affects the display's perceived brightness.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/comparing-oled-and-lcd-brightness-and-exploring-samsung-displays-truebright-certification
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>>107805937
thats a used car
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>>107805921
>>107805929
or you can buy the 5070ti, oc it, and save your money or spend that money on something else in your build like more ram or ssd.
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>>107804129
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rwp0NuqDlw
wendel has spoken
ddr5 needs active airflow for reliability
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>>107805948
electricity is cheaper than gas
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Could someone explain op's webm? I am not very smart with these comparison videos.
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>>107805973
Not really with AI and libshit green agendas.

T. In HVAC and in Colorado where all the Cali implants landed after COVID/summer of love 2020
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>>107805990
Beta Software = Beta Bugs
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>>107805956
you are likely right. i think the true reason why i want to get a 5080 is because my friend got one and i dont want to feel one upped
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>>107806030
Don't play "Keeping Up with the Joneses" thats how people stay poor
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>>107806048
u calling me poor? im getting a 5090 now with EXTRA aislop frames
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AMDsissies humiliated again...
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>>107806030
Get a better screen than him
You'd flex more playing on a 3060 oled ultrawide (slideshow I know) than a 5090 16:9
every screenshot you'll take will reflect your unique experience
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>>107806069
another major disappointment
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>>107806030
get a 5080 miku to dab on his plebeian 5080
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>>107806069
>Company does something that's most profitable for the company.
What was he expecting them to do?
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>>107806108
amd arent that good at scamming investors. they should double down on their strengths of making and presenting good products instead
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>the 5090 matrix benchmarks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bbpjlYo14k
what the fuck, that shit is a literal 6090
imagine getting any other 5090 and getting left behind that fucking much by a super custom
humiliation ritual by ASUS
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>>107806119
>Very good product saar
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Just playing video games for 1st time with my RTX 5070ti

Holy shit. DLSS and Frame Gen is really the magic. Cant believe i missed this for years
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>>107806131
> Power-limited GPU runs faster with a higher power limit.
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>>107806146
yes for dlss
nope for fg
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>>107806105
I wish I had this sort of "it's fuck you/inheritance" money
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>>107805969
kek, i remember this discussion like 15 years back. Boomers argued on overclocked ddr3 that no (((heatspreader))) cools better, and an aio is trash and requires an additional fan.
Basically this problem is the result of people prioritising looks
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>>107806150
It's almost what happened going from a 4090 to a 5090 though, 25% more fps for a 25% higher TDP
By that logic the Asus STRIX is a 6090, the actual king card
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>>107806131
Meh. They messed up by making one of the connector a btf one that only works in like 3-4 boards.
MSI's upcoming 5090 lightning z already looks better for having two standard 12v-2x6 connectors and the same 800w tdp
Also the matrix is about as fast as a rtx pro 6000 Blackwell (~110% 5090) for 150w higher power draw
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>>107806169
I wouldn't trust MSI on that one unless they also add a software for monitoring pins
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>>107806156
It's only 5 small payments of $380 away from being yours :^)
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>>107804725
He's still banned right now but either way he doesnt understand care about this he shits on the 5080 for its memory bus as if there's anything wrong with 256bit. He's tech illiterate.
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will single sticks of 32 gigs ever come back into stock? you can buy one and later buy a second of the same one
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Panic bought

>7500F
>5060ti 16
>32gb DDR5
>2TB SSD

Will this last me until the market stops being retarded? It was the best I could do. Maybe I could have downgraded the SSD and RAM for a better GPU. Idk if that was the right move.
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>>107806119
Isn't AMD like all-in on India?
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>>107804129
>>107804129
Guise 3rd worlder here with a
>5600g
>550m asrock steel
>32 ram 3200 ddr4


So anyways bought this back in 2022 before life kinda happened and while I have been playing some stuff in my free time nothin's been the same really. As far as I knew back then was that I needed a decent enough card so games could run ultra on 900p. I know most people get upset about low end hardware but honestly medical bills and bills in general mostly take out my money, i'm not super poor or anything it's just that I'm not at a stage where I can overspend on a hobby that I might not even be able partake in days and choose to save money for possible family emergencies. Only thing decent about the build is the motherboard and I can undervolt and overclock the gpu to a ps5 ish kind of power, for everything work related the cpu is doing just fine if needed

With everything said, what card should I look into? just consider that a 250$ card is probably around 800-1000 here, same reason I don't care about buying another monitor to play games like
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so its only frame gen that gives latency right?
not dlss?
I just got my 5070ti in, still in the box, sealed and everything
Its not really an upgrade over my 4080, more like insurance, but im considering returning it anyway and using the money to buy other shit, like furniture, or saving it in case my cpu dies or something
Everything going up in price this hard is really demoralizing, I feel like if my system breaks in the next 2 years im gigafucked
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>>107806251
No, because DDR5 is 10x more difficult to get sticks stable with each other unless they're factory matched compared to DDR4.

If you buy a single DDR5 stick, either relgate yourself to running base JEDEC speeds, with a 2nd stick later, or be okay with replacing your single stick with a new 2 stick kit later if you want stable EXPO/XMP speeds.
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>>107806270
>from 4080 to 5070ti
Holy mother of retardation
Return that shit
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>>107806279
again, it was mostly insurance in case it breaks in the next 2 years or so
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>>107806289
It's not a 5090, 80 don't melt
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>>107806272
so my only option is to be a 32 gig cuck or spend more on my ram than i did my OLED monitor
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>>107806270
Unless you do competitive, Latency is nothingburger
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>>107806270
DLSS is the overall Nvidia branding for technologies like Super Resolution, Frame Generation, Reflex, and probably Ray Reconstruction as well. Super Resolution decreases latency. The added latency of FG is low as long as your base framerate is high enough.

I would start using the 5070 Ti and sell the 4080 by the spring of next year at the latest.
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>>107806304
I mostly play rollslop, input lag will be the bane of my existence
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>>107806292
I genned a bunch of sloppa on that 4080, figured I might have reduced its lifespan
Granted this might all be bullshit, but the thought of being stranded with no gpu 2 years into this hellhole shitfest was a little bit scary, so I caved and bought the 5070ti before it basically doubled in price
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>>107806272
it shouldn't be any harder than ddr4 unless you're mixing ICs?
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I've done it I built my dream PC
>Mechanic Master C26
>Asrock B650 m.2
>AMD Ryzen 5 7600
>MSI Ventus RTX 3090 24Gb
>32Gb RAM DDR5 5200mhz
>Kingston 1Tb SSD
>Cooler Master V750 psu

I can run anything and fast, I still have to get another 2Tb SSD and case fans
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>>107806269
>what card should I look into?
5060 Ti 16 GB
3060 Ti, 3070, 4060 Ti 16 GB, and 4070 are fine if you can find them cheap
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>>107806254
You're fine
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>>107806337
this shit won't last two years, the general trend is a price increase, you'll see prices come down before they go up again
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>>107806314
Youll be fine with 2x Frame Gen. More than that is unnessecary
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>>107805969
>ddr5 needs active airflow for reliability
looks like wendel bought Jewfus'es course
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>>107806254
probably nothing to change. i personally would get a beastly processor like 9800x3d if i could spare the funds but thats mostly because i hate CPU bottlenecks more than anything else
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>>107806339
Anon, DDR5 is SIGNIFICANTLY harder to get sticks stable compared to DDR4, even factory matched sticks.

It's why you basically CAN'T get 2x2x16GB kits and expect them to be stable at EXPO/XMP speeds, you're basically forced to buy a 4x16GB kit, or be okay running JEDEC speeds.
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You know what, ill return it
If it comes down to it, ill buy a used card for cheap and just get a 1080p monitor or something
if there truly will be no 60 series and its all gonna be geforcenow subscription slop, ill just tap out of this hobby after all
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>>107806399
I don't care at all desu
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>>107806156
>$1,899 becomes $2,900 "with no fees or interest"
what the fuck lmfao who uses this kinda shit, i thought klarnaing shit was free
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>>107806430
>if there truly will be no 60 series and its all gonna be geforcenow subscription slop, ill just tap out of this hobby after all

Or just go back to older games
I've been having more fun with my Ayn Thor than I've had with my high end computer doing high end gaming
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>>107806444
You can't do math. It's 5x380 (1500+400). All financing is 0% unless you miss a payment or go beyond a threshold and even then it kicks in lower.
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>>107806471
it appears i had typed in the wrong numbers while talking to my mom on the phone using my headset. this is what i get for phoneposting
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>>107806430
>>107806463
the ultimate redpill is getting a high quality 1080p 120hz oled chinkheld capable of low latency av1/hvec streaming and enjoying all your games through that. 1080p 120fps is far easier to run, you have it portable in your hands, and you can take it anywhere since Wifi7 and 5G is so good now with AV1.
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>just play pixelslop
No thanks
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>>107806521
you can play quite literally any game as long as your pc can run it
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>>107806527
On what pc dumbfuck
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reckon theyll bring out a 5k or 6k 40" monitor? i cant go back to a smaller screen after having this c1 for so long and bigger wont fit on my desk comfortably
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Is getting naked better than wearing an ESD wrist band?
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When people say they are undervolting

Do they mean simply lowering power draw from stock or also overclocking then lowering power draw?
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>>107806597
any pc capable of hvec or av1 encoding
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>>107806008
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>>107806606
you lower the amount of milivolts the hardware is using. raising/lowering power limits and clocks are optional.
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>>107806601
LG dropping the 52" 5k2k monitor, it's VA so you know it's shit
would not recommed

40" what? LG also has 5k2k 39" tandem oled coming out
that's smaller
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>>107805469
bumping this beautiful MS Paint diagram. Surely I am not the only anon who /worksfromhome/ and also /gamesatwork/
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>>107806606
Mostly the latter because simply lowering the power draw reduces the card's performance.
Overclocking the GPU + setting a stricter maximum GPU core voltage limit can retain or even improve the stock performance while drawing less power.
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>>107805139
That would be theft.
>>107805151
Thanks.
>>107805233
I was considering using the studio drivers but I didn't know if any version woud be fine or not.
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>>107806343
Congrats, bro.
I hope it didn't cost you too much considering the current prices of ram
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I NEED IT

GIVE IT TO ME
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>>107806254
Yes
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>>107806800
>27"
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>>107805969
WATCH THIS VIDEO

YOUR DDR5 COULD BE THROTTLING, CAUSING INSTABILITY, OR EVEN WORSE BEING DAMAGED
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>>107806254
make sure you properly tune it so you get 10% extra performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyejyMt0u9A
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>>107805969
>>107806840
been telling people this for a while. that rtx 5090 or 4090 heat has to go somewhere and it goes to your ram.
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>>107806765
>simply lowering the power draw reduces the card's performance
literally how
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>5k resolution

this industry is tone deaf lmao. even a 5090 can only output 4k 30 fps in latest AAA slop native lol.

monitor technology is moving much faster than gpu tech
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>>107806842
>good oc results
Cool but does he show the overclock he actually did not just the benchmarks?
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why the FUCK haven't you built your PC yet, anon? You've had ample time
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playing games require effort
why play games when you can watch games being played or playthroughs
passive entertainment is more easily consumed by a goyslopper
old and burnt out dopamine is a bitch
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>>107806602
>Is getting naked better than wearing an ESD wrist band?
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>>107806863
higher res better, native res is a meme, lower is worse
but anyway, remember that time when 4k oled beat 8k lcd due to microcontrast benefits in blind a b testing by av critics? pepperige farm remembers
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>>107806399
im aware ddr5 is a piece of shit to overclock on, i've done both ddr4 and ddr5. The crux of my question was does mixing kits of the same ic really add additional headache that otherwise would not be there outside of minor binning variation that would always be there?

I don't see why it would, unless more things vary between kits than just ics with ddr5. Might be the case idk, i have heard some use different buffering systems or something.
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>>107806822
27' is unironically too big
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>>107806857
if you have a ryzen chip you can test this in real time. lower the ppt value in pbotuner or ryzen master, thats the power limit. the performance gets worse unless you add undervolt because there's less power available for boosting.
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>>107806863
>even a 5090 can only output 4k 30 fps in latest AAA slop native lol.
they've already managed to solve that by claiming to create infinite amounts of frames via having an AI make them. personally i would've thought memory editing the fraps framecounter to always say 999 would have been more efficient and honest but the industry needs to use AI for something
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>>107805969
I told you about that RAM fan add it for max performance
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>>107806921
anon specifically asked about undervolting
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>>107805969
>and because this often happens under load, users can blame the CPU, maybe its not seated correctly, maybe its the gpu, maybe its the power supply, or just, you know lInUx iS bEiNg WeIrD.
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>>107806913
>the same ic
There is no "same ic" unless they're factory matched. Even ICs from the same exact batch won't play nice together unless factory matched, let alone ICs from different manufacturing batches, even if they're "identical" ICs.
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>>107806800
... 5k?
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>>107806968
that was the aforementioned minor binning variation
i mixed b-die many times with tight ocs no issues
a kit that's binned to run together at xmp is cool but by no means necessary
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>>107806800
5K2K
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is $60 good price for 32GB of ddr3 in current state of things
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5070 and 5080 supers when :( but one year isnt THAT long to wait
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>>107807016
i was gonna list my 4790k with 32gb ram psu and case at marketplace/craigslist at $150 but i am considering waiting until we hit peak bubble
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>>107807042
Hopefully not until end of next year
Launching them now with these ram prices would be fucked
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>>107807062
oh man that's exactly the combo i'm going for
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>>107806877
Yes, 2000 mhz on the vram and 350 on the clock, no increase on the voltage or total power output
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>>107807042
My guess is never, unless RTX 60 is pushed way out, which is unlikely. RTX 60 late 2027
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>>107806884
Take the comfy city building pill
Pirate Surviving Mars Relaunched
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we live in a world where intel must save pc gaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ydfKE1dffo
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>>107804129
got a BSOD on win10 following these settings for a pair of different 2x8 gb sets
xpg 3600mhz & tridentz 3200mhz
how can I get the exact specs without disassembling my shit so someone here can help?
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Interesting problem that was hopefully resolved. Posting in case other people see a similar issue. Very rarely, on my 5700x3d PC (mostly for YouTube, Discord and other lighter tasks), the display would go black for 2 seconds with some audio popping/snapping though the A/V receiver. It seems the 3.5mm to RCA cable I was using was introducing all kinds of problems, from acting like an antenna and picking up crap to a conflicting ground issue... all of which could be exaggerating transient power problems. The biggest clue was when the problems happen, it was usually when there was a bigger change in house current loads... i.e. the furnace or fridge turning on or off. I went back to optical audio and we'll see if that takes care of it. I still might need a new PSU since apparently mine is old enough that it was made before the RTX 3080... and the 3080 is very sensitive to transients. It's been running for a few hours now without issue. Cross my fingers. Thoughts and prayers. Sending my PC lots of positive energy.
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>>107806800
>VHz below 240
Niggers actually buying monitors in 2026 and not planning to play at 120 fps with BFI.
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>>107806863
>native
Retard
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>>107807125
hwinfo64 full mode or thaiphoon burner
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Is the Logitech G 502 X good now? I dodged Logishit 5 years ago due to them refusing to use optical switches. My Razer has served me well but it has gotten to the point that the soft rubber has literally worn out so I need a new one. The Basilisk V3 Pro is like 50€ more than what I paid for my V1 and doesn't even come with a dock so fuck that.
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>>107807119
I have taken that pill long ago
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it's strange, intel still feel like the rightful kings that are temporarily on the backfoot to me. Feels like Ryzen launched yesterday to me, but the $350 flagship quad core era (circa 2010-2017) felt like a literal eternity in hindsight. Am I just... getting old?
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>>107807126
Yeah that's a shitty electrical panel and PSU and something being crossed on ground/neutral leading to your issues.
Have electrician check panel, get at least grounding rods if not updated on 25 years, get a better PSU, get a sinewave UPS, and stop using onboard audio - or at least pipe to an external DAC.
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>>107807183
>Am I just... getting old?
yes feels like I just missed investing in amd stock yesterday
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>you are jeet
>no you are jeet
literal children
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>>107807173
Mice are SO subjective as to what's good and what's crap. I was a hardcore Logi-fan. Starting with the MX-518. They went to shit, and Razers just never felt right in my hand. I have a Corsair Glaive (out of production) and a Corsair Nightsword and they work and feel great. At least to me.
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>>107807208
indians are deeply ashamed of being indian so i think it's worth using the insult liberally even if it only lands 2% of the time, that 2% will be devastating.
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>>107807173
>G 502 X
from my understanding it should have both optical switches and encoder but people claim that for some reason they still die but that's what I've read and not experienced myself so take it with a grain of salt. I think you can configure it with a special Logitech tool except for macros in case you don't want to deal with their shitty driver software. If only the shape is important to you check https://www.eloshapes.com
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>>107807183
My first gaming PC used AMD and using Intelaviv always felt wrong.
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>>107806854
the heat goes to the heatsink and then into the air
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The the hidden technique is to just... save until 60 series drops... right?
>inb4 2000$ msrp
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>>107807192
I'm sure the circuits aren't delivering optimal, clean power. And, I am planning on a UPS soon. And, sigh, a new PSU. But, I'm rocking 3 PCs here and this was the only one with an issue. I isolated the analog audio out as the most likely cause of everything when I unplugged from the PC and instantly the A/V receiver started making a loud hum. Unplugged the cable from the receiver and the hum was gone. This was a major issue.
Now, I have optical audio out and the PC directly into the monitor. All the A/V receiver is doing is digital audio and other home theater things like a cable box, turntable, and a PS5.
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So I just got a 5070, but my 750W PSU only has 1 VGA cable (with 2x8-pin PCIE), is that safe to use for the 5070? I see people always say not to daisychain though.
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>>107807173
I've had the wired version for a year or so and I like it a lot. I had narrowed down the choices to this Logitech and the Razer Basilisk V3 but I was undecided and picked pretty much randomly. Both mice seemed equally good from the specs and in the store. The Logitech feels nice in my hand and I like the rubber texture. The tracking is very good and I can configure the mouse under Linux with ratbag software. Initially, I was often misclicking the two extra buttons to the left when I wanted to press the left mouse button. I got used to it pretty quickly and now appreciate the extra buttons when FPS gaming, but if you have a very fat pointer finger or a habit of clicking on the left side of the button, consider the Razer instead. The scroll wheel is crisp and not too hard to press, but not so easy that you'd press it accidentally. Really, the only problem is that the forward thumb button is a bit too far. Plus the scroll wheel is loud, I don't mind it at home but I imagine it would annoy some people in the office.
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>>107807042
Never, they were either announced now or 6000 are next
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>>107807230
>inb4 2000$ 6060 ti msrp
ftfy, friend
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https://youtu.be/4rwp0NuqDlw

VINDICATIOOOOON

I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY

I KNEW DDR5 WAS ASS
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my youtube feed gets kinda retarded during ces with people who are at the event posting videos
>heres X product, I am next to it.
>heres the specs, Im really next to it
>what could it be used for? productivity? Gaming? So many possibilities
>anyway cant wait to test it at home in unknown timeframe if they send me one
>heres an interview with a guy from a company who isnt part of the successful AI circlejerk, dont worry tho. They're going bankrupt and will eventually be bought out by nvidia
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>>107807243
PSU is about the biggest thing not to cheap out on...since it can go bad and kill every other component in the PC. Get a new PSU.
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>>107807267
It's an EVGA GT 750W, I just don't have the 2nd VGA cable for it (it has a port on the PSU side).

I guess I can buy another cable off amazon or something.
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>>107807235
It's definitely panel or circuit related as your audio out is somehow getting grounded feedback from your mobo shield by proxy of your case by proxy of your PSU.

So either PSU is not grounding your case right or circuit has a neutral connected to your ground somehow and getting feedback from elsewhere
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>>107807276
fuck me incomplete pic
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>>107807256
Posted earlier in thread faggot
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>>107807272
Oh, so the PSU has the port, you're just missing a cable? No worries. Just MAKE SURE to get the EXACT, CORRECT cable SPECIFICIALLY for that EXACT PSU. A mismatched cable for even a different model EVGA can and will short out and kill everything.
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>>107807294
Yeah, I had a 3070Ti previously and it ran off the single cable without issue, so I assumed it'd be fine on the 5070 as well, but I see people freaking out about daisy-chaining and figured i'd ask.
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>>107807290
that is a intake fan, sweetie
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>>107807256
ya but nothing we can do now all of the best CPUs only support DDR5
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spacewarmer intel cpu
housefire nvidia gpu
yeah, it's comfy winter time
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>>107807286
Oh was it? Oh right

HERE IT AGAIN FUCK YOU

https://youtu.be/4rwp0NuqDlw

VINDICATIOOOOON

I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY

I KNEW DDR5 WAS ASS

FUCK YOU
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>>107807235
if your A/V receiver shits the bed when the fridge or furnace turn on this is due to voltage drop from an inertial load reving up.
Now if your A/V receiver is not on the same circuit as the fridge, that means your building wiring is quite undersized.
>I unplugged from the PC and instantly the A/V receiver started making a loud hum
yes duh, this is how audio amplifiers with an open input path sound. And you can even change the sound by squeezing the plug contacts with your sweaty palm
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>>107807301
>5090: that air you breath...i'm taking it back.
>ram:
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>>107807306
>DDR5 is ass because 0.0001% of users have issues

Cry more poorcuck
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>>107807306
sorry but sour grapes
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>>107806800
I am probably gonna get pic related
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>>107807173
they are overpriced but if you need their features (infiniscroll) then you have no choice
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>>107807349
>AI
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>>107807325
We shall see. Electrical is covered under the HOA, so if the mains need attention, I'm covered. But again, this all being isolated to this single PC points to the audio being the main culprit. As I said, the 3080 is notoriously sensitive to voltage transients and the cable seems to have exasperated the issue. I'll run it the rest of the day and see if it acts up again. It's cold here and the furnace is kicking on and off regularly.
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>>107807363
how is the video part connected to the A/V? you mentioned it going black
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>>107807349
i will NEVER have a "curved" monitor you big fat loserly asshjole
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So.. did anything cool drop in CES?
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>>107807372
Initially, it was routed through the A/V receiver and then to the monitor. First thing I did when the problem started was going directly to the monitor and switching from HDMI to a DP cable. No change.
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>>107807382
we now have monitors with AI
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>>107807375
A slight curve on an ultrawide is great. And you do not notice it.
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>>107807389
I like how you can interpret this sentence in two very different ways
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>>107807294
I'm just gonna buy this
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>>107807418
As long as your PSU is on the list, G2G. Cablemod is solid.
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>>107807431
Yeah the GT series shares pinout with all the modern G series stuff. I double checked.

Probably better to just use a native cable like this compared to the Y-cable adapter it came with anyway.
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>>107807173
don't buy a gaming mouse
you pay a premium and you get shit. gaming mouse companies do not compete on quality, they compete on gimmicks
it's often
>we paid a pro gaming team to use this mouse
>this one has more (arbitrary, possibly made-up unit of measure) than the competitor
>this one comes with a desktop app
>this one has a phone app
>this one comes in rainbow colors
>this one has weight added so it weighs more, like a real gamer would use
>this one has holes cut in it so it weighs less, like a real gamer would use
>this one was fitted for the hand of xXgrifterXx, many reatards pay to watch him on twitch
>this one is printed with a picture the latest sloppa game/tv show
but it's never
>this one has a 5 year warranty
I like the Logi MX Master 3, it's useful if you switch between different PCs often like I do throughout the day. If you don't do that or you want a wired mouse, you cannot go wrong with the Microsoft Intellimouse, I used one for like 30 years.

What do the ones in the pic have in common? Only that they all look extremely unserious
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>>107807474
I need a wireless mouse with a puck for push to talk and DPI controls. For video games. That happens to be covered by gaming mice. I'll just keep sitting on my Razer for a few more years I guess.
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>>107807474
it's not 2010 anymore gramps. gaming mice actually have to deliver on performance.
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>>107807474
if you buy that ergostrike mouse you are a fucking idiot it costs too much and if the wrong cop sees it they will shoot you
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>>107806105
>>107806156
I want it. I need it.
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>>107807496
never saw a point to dpi controls. you want to get used to the same dpi for everything for the sake of muscle memory, no???
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>>107807545
you usually have a button that turns it way down for snipping and such
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>>107807571
no i dont
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>>107807545
Even if your DPI stays the same different games handle mouse movement differently. Instead of needing to tweak them in the settings I can just press buttons on my mouse to have it in an acceptable range in seconds. In games where I need minor corrections for aim yet large movements for looking around the dpi buttons come in a clutch too. Ever since the Logitech G400 I've refused to give up on them.
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>>107807579
i mean on a mouse with DPI controls
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I want more (And better companies than Lian Li) to use this system of AIO tubing.
Thank you.
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>>107807474
Can you use your mouse to point to where the gaming mouse hurt you?
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>>107807474
>>107807496
>>107807582
case in point, DPI is a made up arbitrary unit of measure. No one knew what their DPI was 20 years ago and they still played competitive counterstrike. Someone invented it, and started selling mice with the gimmick. Then someone came up with a new gimmick button that lets you change the DPI. You still need to tweak the in-game settings either way, so why not just have your mouse run at the Good Enough Polling Rate that they all used to run at and dial it in per game from there?
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Can anyone explain the estrogen core meme to me?
I think I'm not psyoped enough to know what that is.
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>>107807625
>and dial it in per game from there
DPI is resolution and the slider in game is scaling
do you understand the difference?
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>>107807625
Because instead of going into the settings and pressing ultra and exiting I'll need to enter, tweak, enter, tweak, enter, tweak and by then I hopefully have it right. Meanwhile I can change the DPI instantly and if I find it unacceptable after 5 minutes I can press a button even mid-combat to change it. It's a matter of convenience as unlike graphical settings it's more subject to tuning and even after the fact there might be situations where you'd prefer a lower DPI.
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>>107807173
>>107807474
gaming mice are good but the only real metrics to pay attention to now are
>does it have optical switches
>how light is it
>does the shape please (you) personally

for me personally ambi mice are by far the best, like the razer viper shape or maybe the g pro wireless. i don't like ergo mice at all anymore, despite using them for 10 years before i switched over to ambi style.

light mice are good if you are at all serious about gaymin especially fps. but they are also better for desktop use tbqh. only weird specific posturing autists want heavy mice for some reaosn idk why
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>>107807708
higher weight is just the cost of more battery life tbqh and that's a good reason to get a heavier mouse of weight means nothing to you.
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>>107807474
Most gaming mouses are huge. I have a tiny tiny hand. I like my small and light Logi M650.
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>>107807669
e-cores
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>>107807733
aka energy saving cores, for the desktop because the wall outlet just cant give intel cpus enough juice otherwise
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>>107807675
yes, i understand. now explain why you want to be able to run a lower polling rate instead of just moving the slider to the right spot.
>>107807682
skill issue
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>>107807741
they aren't even energy saving, they draw more power per area than p-cores. They're mostly there for marketing (getting to claim they have xx cores) and to make up for getting raped in multi-threading by amd.
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>>107807733
>>107807741
Thanks.
Tech flame wars can be hard to understand from the outside and I haven't been keeping up with CPU architectures.
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>>107806884
I understand I don't have energy to play games anymore

The novelty is gone and most of the time it feels like a problem I need to solve
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>>107807742
>skill issue
Real high skill niggers use a ball mouse. You DO use a ball mouse, right?
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>>107807125
lol that was me
probably gonna have to downclock then, i don't know what settings your board would like for 4x8

use: https://github.com/CoolCmd/TestMem5
with the extreme profile
or: https://www.ocbase.com
for stability testing
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>>107807742
>now explain why you want to be able to run a lower polling rate instead of just moving the slider to the right spot
NTA but I like a DPI button on my mouse because I can switch from say movement mode to aiming mode. Or from a drawing tool to a vertex selection tool.
That sort of control on the mouse means no menus period. I don't really give a fuck how it happens desu but polling rate is what the mouse has to work with and it works independently of OS support so it doesn't have to be subject to a multi-year negotiation and international standards designed and a lot of palms greased before it all happens.

But sure, if EU can standardise on USB3, they can probably tell mouse and OS companies to add one more button to the ones OS expect mice to have and use it appropriately and if mice don't hear the OS say they're on the same page, use the button for polling rates instead.
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>>107807742
>now explain why you want to be able to run a lower polling rate
devs are retards and not ever cursor speed scaling function is a linear calculation.
Windows is the biggest offender of them all, if you want precise mouse movements you have no other choice then to set this to 5 (aka 1:1) and tune cursor speed by adjusting the increments to your liking
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test
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>>107807125
>i don't see a problem with mixing my ram sticks
>why is my computer BSODing?
pffthahaha, drop the speeds to 2888.



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