I noticed stupid ddos attacks, even for sites where it doesn't make sense, like archives. Could it be that cloudflare conducts them themselves, so people use their shitty captcha service? It's literally EVERYWHERE, they had to achieve that somehow.It's the old protection money trick the mafia did. Attack random shops at night and then come in the next morning and offer security against vandalism and violence.
>>107804401Cloudflare is probably a government OP, and it would make sense to use DDoS attacks to force website owners to use cloudflare.There's no proof at all though so it may as well be schizo babble.
>>107804401>Could it be that cloudflare conducts them themselves, so people use their shitty captcha service?I wouldn't put it past them. Those scumbags are up to all sorts of shady shit, so that would totally fit in. Every site seems to be infested with Cloudflare, including this one. So many sites, all Cloudflare, break with many browsers. Cloudflare needs to go!
>>107804401theyre already using cloudflare those are cloudflare logs
ddos is a dark web tactic to extort websites on the clear web.
>>107804799 I never got the cloudflare captcha on 4plebs
>>107805009You are aware that cloudflare isnt just a captcha service?
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>>107805056Cloudflare can be used as simple CDN with reverse-proxy, but depending on the website settings and how much your IP and fingerprint is "trusted" by cloudflare, you may get a captcha randomly. They even say they have an "AI labyrinth" as bot trap, but I never experienced it.
>>107805056Yeah but the service they are using is server based, I'm only concerned with the client side cancer
archives are gay anyway
>>107804401of course it is, all that hw sitting unused doesn't generate profit, random blogs getting ddosed is just 'oopsie, local hooligans broke your window, imagine if they set fire to your store, it's worth buying protection' scam of internet era
>>107805523also could be alphabet agencies, to set up cf waf you have to allow them to mitm you, so all that https/tls protection disappears as they can get all the info they want from cf skipping the site owner, if site is behind cf means three letter agencies have all your communication in plaintext in palantir, we need next snowden for ppl to finally realize how cf got so big so fast
>>107804401Behead all troonflaresTTD
>>107805506I agree. Image board content should be ephemeral.
>>107804401>DDoS attacks>so people use their shitty captcha service?It's amazing how tech illiterate people manage to find 4chan let alone post a thread. 4chan using Captcha has nothing to do with DDoS attacks. Holy fucking shit. Gook moot could do away with captchas and it would still get DDoS protection since the site is served through cloudflare cdns
>>107805735Holy Dunning-Kruger
>>107805735The cloudflare turnstile is called a captcha. Why do you think they fucking have it?
>>107805910yeah their super advanced bot detection that keeps blocking iceweasel/palemoon or even normal ff linux users, gotta wonder if they are just a bunch of pajeets or they specifically push you to vulnerable versions of browsers (with latest and greatest and buggiest versions of new additions to abuse) for a reason, how dare you use 2 year old build of xyz, it didn't even implement the latest cve
>>107804799Some of that traffic does still make it through to them though. Cloudflare is pretty shitty and can't stop everything.
>>107805987A 2 year old build of a browser is likely full of known CVE and someone unknown ones too.You make no sense.
>>107806024You misunderstand what he's saying. He's saying Cloudflare allows older versions of Firefox but will sometimes block newer Firefox for no reason.I compile my own Firefox Nightly from source sometimes get hit by this. I would hypothesise it's because they're tracking and fingerprinting everything and when they see a new browser fingerprint for the first time they default to blocking it or aggressively filtering it and forcing captchas everywhere.
>>107806024not really, lts ff from 2 years ago is pretty safe, then you jump on the latest 3d.xyz feature is now enabled by default and buggy as hell and all exploit campaigns through ad networks use the latest zero days (old exploits get detected), the old and 'vulnerable' lts is safe, your latest is not until x.y+5 versions, enjoy getting pwned thanks to newest bs googol pushes (see jpgxl and similar, older browser with 0 support for that shit ended being more secure)
>>107805987I was blocked from posting for a year because the turnstile simply crashed (as it reported in the web console), I will likely get blocked by cloudflare again whenever they next update the turnstile to be less permissive
>>107806031this too, but they literally force ppl onto newer versions with often new features that are not yet well tested, can't remember now exact details but there was a css or some other new google pushed feature thay made all browsers newer than 105(?) vulnerable up to 100.10 as they enabled it by default then, 99 and below all safe, gee whiz, why not just tell all 99 and below their browser is too old to use internet and call them bots, noone will do anyhing anyway kek
>>107804401>Could it be that cloudflare conducts them themselves, so people use their shitty captcha service?It could be, and it could also be aliens, or the government, or the voices in your head. But more likely it's just retarded skids, like it was for the 20 years before cloudflare existed.
>>107806294yeah bro random skids pay money to botfarms to launch a 24 ddos for no reason. makes sense you retarded faggot.before cloudflare existed only major websites for personal reasons or monetary reasons got attacked. nobody went to a random fucking blog and suddenly did a coordinated ddos for no reason.the jeets/bots/tranny/paid shills on this website are so fucking stupid.>haha you're crazy. trust the government citizen. be normal. nobody ever does bad things except the designated bad guy i point at.
>>107805584>we need next snowden for ppl to finally realize how cf got so big so fastAnd then companies will stop using Cloudflare, right? R-right?
>>107806294There's this retard who's been paying to shill his SoundCloud here for 8 years now he's spent thousands of dollars on this and he is mentally ill and permanently unemployed you really underestimate the kind of retard that lurks these sites. Maybe he got banned too much or has some retarded crusade there's also that pedo with residential proxiesThis is definitely some faggot with an autistic grudge
>>107806473This. DDoS costs money, and even if you own a botnet yourself you're wasting opportunity cost targeting random shit. It's definitely one hand washing the other or one hand washing itself here.
>>107804401>even for sites where it doesn't make sense, like archives.never underestimate the determination of autists who think they have been wronged
>>107806570if there was even a reasonable crumb of evidence, i would leave cloudflare. but it's all schizophrenic conjecture so far.
>>107804615Is there anything you guys don’t hate?
>>107806620I don't have an adblocker on my phone, and when I'm not being offered Imbred's Soundcloud albums while I browse 4chan, it's some revolting anime footfag shit. So leave Imbred alone.
>>107806983>why are you so mean to big corpo! they only want to turn you into destitute slaves!
>>107807022to add to this>you have to give cloudflare the benefit of the doubt and always assume the best of their intentions/actions. no this doesn't apply to you instead you're a crazy schizo who i can dismiss without any evidence. i would never doubt or question cloudflare though.
>>107807121and people act like that way of thinking is normaleverything is retarded.
>>107807121I can say that cloudflare is evil (probably _US government supported) AND that posters like >>107806473 are delusional faggot schizos.
>>107807262>cloudflare is evil but they definitely don't ddos anybody guys. haha. they're a wacky evil corporation but they wouldn't do mafia things right? haha.>nobody in the world wants to do elicit or predatory actions to make money. you're a schizo! nobody wants to influence you.>both sides are bad. but make sure to listen to the government and give the benefit of the doubt to a corporationyou aren't fooling anybody you retard piece of shit.
>>107805056how do they even detect bots by just requiring them to click a stupid checkbox ?
>>107807328What's with all this schizo greentext? Where did I say any of this? I would totally believe that US government actors are forcing websites to use cloudflare by DDoSing them.
>>107807343The checkbox is supposed to stop the bots. The dumb thing is that browsers support cloudflare in certain ways. This leads to the situation that hacked versions of selenium and other bot-browsers can bypass it relatively easy, while a human using a proper browser can't.
People don't understand how fucking easy it is to ddos shit these days.There are literally booter services that even 13 year olds can use to ddos some guy that pissed them off in an online game for like 5 bucks
>bots, ai scrapers, shitholes like the sharty exist>NOOOO IT'S LE CLOUDFLARE PROTECTION RACKET DDOSING SITESAlso, election tourists and spammers hate the archives because>archives prove that the site was NOT always a rightoid slacktivist forum who obsesses over social media screencaps and normalfag politics>archives prove an image or thread has already been reposted repeatedly
>>107807594Fair. It takes only a single schizo to spend mentally ill sums of money to botnet owners to spam a site.
just rangeblock indian and brazillian IPs
>>107808021if were doing that we should start with americans
>>107808388american website
>>107807419overloading some kids 50 down 10 up shitlink isn't impressive or hard.
>>107808518yeah but it doesnt change a iota to th fact ameriNEGROES are the source of the cancer of this site
>>107808650your ESL isn't helping your case
>>107808653and how many languages do you speak, amerinegroebecause enrishu is actually my fourth language
>>107807419now provide proof anyone can launch a 24 hr attack worth that much data btwi want to see milllions of requests and thousands of tb capable or you lied
>>107808657go have discussions in the three languages you actually understand rather than lecturing us on cancer, you smelly foreigner
>>107808687very technological non-argumentbut you drink cumdoesnt matter it comes from a gallon jug and not from a cockits still gay
>>107808701post proof youre not a techlet cuckie hoggie
>>107808703its my fizzum folder.no, youre not getting my username
fukk i did post my usernameoh well, its not like you can do anything with itheres actual code
and heres the rest. somewhat.you want the full source? anything i have on this computer im ok with opensourcing
>>107808703>t. actually shuts the fuck upi commend you for that, anon
KIKEFLARE
you genuinely have a modicum of classand game recognizes gamei legit respect you more bc of that
What a retarded thread. It really shows how low IQ are the nu-/g/ monkeys
>>107808806>because posting loli is high iq£no, it isnt
>>107808806in fact, picrel>this is high iq, presumablykill yourself in a spectacular mannerfor MY mome,ntary entertainmentbecause i will forget about you 5 mins later
>>107806473>nobody went to a random fucking blog and suddenly did a coordinated ddos for no reason.correct. they did it for dumb fuck retarded reasons, like the admin of the site snubbed them or they lost an argument with somebody.
>>107808806>>107808835youre still not killing yourselfim growing impatientyou fucking tease
>>107808806>>107808883i can assist you with thisfirst you go to wallmart and you buy a webcamand then you go along the alley, not across the streetand you film itfor best effect you put your wound in a warm water bathso your body doesnt notice that youre pumping recylcled piss instead of bloodand thats how you do thingsfirst you cutand then you stick your hands in water. warm. you dont want to shock your body into actually responding to the woundand you film it alland you post it on /g/
>nuh bansuicide is a quite complex technolgyand if you still disagreeill be back in 3 days anyways
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>>107805506>>107805723>only glowies should have archives, and nobody should be able to call them out on historical revisionism
cf spies are itt, be careful what you write
>>107811301What historical revisionism would there be without archives, that would help the glowies?You're retarded.
>>107804401It must be the same way the companies that made antivirus were also the same people who made virus.
>>107811301Unironically correct. The State is the Truth.
You're always free to use any other of the hundred WAF services out there or even host your own WAF appliances wherever you want. Its always the ignorant school dropout who doesn't understand what their services do and how to do it themselves.
>>107814972While this probably never happened (except with one rogue company), you have to know that there's a very important black market (or grey market) of zero days. These don't just have criminals as customers, but state actors too. You can imagine what sums of money are exchanged for zero-days that are still unknown to the public. It wouldn't be crazy to think that some of these security companies get paid off for keeping valuable zero-days secret, or even to sell zero-days to interested parties.
>>107805723>>107805506They can be useful imo
