frontend/mobile jobs are dying due to ai. backend and devops jobs are next. what engineering jobs will be immune to the ai takeover at least for a while longer?
>>107808881none will surviveall that will be left be managers of agentsbasically the worst case scenario for spergs who really can hardly manage themselves
>tfw underpaid frontend """developer""" shitter>all frontend jobs that require modern frameworks are being done by ai or indians>working on legacy systems with outdated internal tooling for banks or governments is all that's left because ai doesn't know about those, but they literally eat your soul with how awful coding in them isat least it's fully remote...
>>107808881>what engineering jobs will be immunesomething that interacts with the real world>>107809303working on old systems sucks ass but at least it provides some job security for the time being
>>107808881anything with security should be fine because it needs a human to sign off and take blame. devops will probably be okay for awhile. architects of course will be fine. me personally, I am leaning 100% into leveraging AI agents, trying to become most knowledge on them. other than that, i am aggressively paying down my mortgage and outstanding debts
>>107808881None. Fuck off Rajesh, we're full. Stay in India, breed your sister like a good Hindu, and open up a scam call center.
>>107808881None. We are fucked
I think we're shifting to generalist jobs instead of specializations
>>107808881Have you tried working to build something of actual tangible value?
>>107810455That's subjective
>>107808881jobs will return after the ai implosion and companies realize they do actually need human employees to function
>>107808881>what engineering jobs will be immune to the ai takeover at least for a while longer?all of themif you're laid of as a consequence of AI, it means you're not a real engineer
I think we're shifting to hyper-specialized jobs instead of generalists.Generalists typically produce lower-quality output, so AI is a clear force multiplier there; they won't be needed anymore.For use-cases which require more thought, only specialists (and later, hyper-specialists) will be able to review the AI-generated output. A generalist will just be lost in the sycophancy.>>107808881Frontend jobs have literally been transliterating PSD's into HTML/CSS for the past 20 years, and devops is almost always glorified pagerslaves. The vast majority of software development is software gruntwork involving neither thought nor consideration. Frontend/backend/whatever has never really mattered.
>>107811336this>aiactually indians
>>107808881Lol just be a business analyst you could vibecode your way to your boss' panties because of all the data you can put inside her.
>>107809303>>working on legacy systems with outdated internal tooling for banks or governments is all that's left because ai doesn't know about those, but they literally eat your soul with how awful coding in them isliterally feeding the context or RAG would solve AIs being "stupid" and not knowledgable
>>107811336What can a human engineer do that an AI can't?
>>107811507programing?
>>107811525*2 m's
>>107811525AI can program. Better than anyone coming out of college these days anyways. Considering it could barely write 'hello world' a few years ago it's clear it's not long until most programming is done by AI managers.
>>107808881I found a niche job in open source using niche technologies and languages, I used to be scared of AI but then realized it was trained on shit I wrote because it's all niche, so I started pushing bullshit broken code with comments claiming it worked perfectly and the well has been super poisoned
>>107808881>backend and devops jobs are nextYeah, not gonna happen.
>>107811647yeah except ai development started in 1943.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Logical_Calculus_of_the_Ideas_Immanent_in_Nervous_Activity
>>107811682ai doesnt even replace front endersthis is what happens:people get given a broken toolit doesnt work, abviouslyand then the ceo does the next cheapest thing- outsource to india
>>107808881Real engineering. Computer science isn't engineering
>>107811741its gonna take a couple decades but were actually working on thatand unlike shatbots this type of ai is full symbolicshatbots are actually kindof a dead endi meanits a statistical system thats used to solve deterministic problemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG4gUTowXcthat was in 2020.i saw a recent video where eggheads work on expanding upon the idea but i cant find it
>>107811692That doesn't disprove my point? Looking at what AI was capable of in 1943, 2003, 2023 you'll see the scale is logarithmic
>>107811777>logarythmickeklmaoin the past year we went from ai shitting itself on 200 lines of c... to shitting itself on 250 lines of cthe only thing thats logarythmic about the ai is the amount of compute that gets thrown at the problem
>>107811791shit>logarithm is spelled with an i*groans*
>>107808881Mechanical Engineering will never die because things break and someone's gotta fix em
>>107811837never say neverbut it wont be replaced in our times, thats for sure
>>107811791Wtf are you talking about? In 5-6 years it went from not being able to code at all to being better than any CS grad coming out of college these days. You can deny reality all you want if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't change the facts. I wouldn't expect a troon to understand that.
>>107811863>being unable to write more than 250 lines of c is being better than any CS grad coming out of college these days.>when you work daily with shatbots and know their limitations youre a troon>last year's progress was due to a 10x increase in compute for merely 25% more power>and thats how exponential growth looks like2mw til agi im sure
Electrician.No AI data center can be built and maintained without them.
I see shitloads of JS/react jobs around, they're not dead yet.
>>107811976and network
