We lost the ability to make controllers that don't break after 2 years due to joystick drift.
>>107810847I owned an Xbox One for 7 years and not once did the original controller have any issues. In fact, I was a stupid kid so I dropped it a few times and it still worked fine. Now I'm an adult and the Series controller I bought for my PC started drifting after 8 months (even though I treat it with respect and wipe it down with isopropyl frequently). I don't get it.
>>107810847DualSense with TMR sticks, almost two years old by now and works fine.
>>107810906It's going to break 0.000002 seconds after your warranty ends, I guarantee it.
>>107810847What about the Hall effect controllers?
>>107810847Plenty of very affordable Hall or TMR controllers out there these days.
>>107810919how long do you think a warranty for a dual sense would be? more than 2 years? you think modifying it to have TMR wouldn't already void the warranty?
>>107810919The warranty of the controller itself is already long over, the TMR stick mod was almost two years ago.
17 euros aliexpress.
>>107811003Pretty decent controller, got it on Amazon for like $16 USD. I still use my Vader 4 Pro, because it's better and I like the clicky buttons. But the GameSAAR is solid.
>>107811003>gameSAAR
>>107810847My near-launch DS4 with its regular-ass pot sticks lasted almost a decade without breaking, and when one stick did break, it wasn't drift and easily repaired without a full replacement. Everyone goes muh HE muh TMR, but at the end of the day the problem is that pot sticks are made like absolute shit these days, so people would rather not gamble. Same with mouse switches.>>107811003The sticks are a little mushy, otherwise it's quite solid. The middle 2 buttons also feel like shit, but at least they're not the start/select unlike on the 8bitdo equivalent.
>>107810847rechargeable batteries that don't die after 2 months
>>107811084>sticks are a little mushytriggers
>>107810847My stupid ass Xbox Series controller started disconnecting randomly so I actually went back to my 360 controller which still works perfectly, I just had to buy some joystick grips because the rubber was degrading. If only the dpad wasn't almost unusable.
>>107810847Just clean it you fucking retard.
ordering online wasnt as much of a thing so people would get mad when stuff breaks instead of just consooming another one. the technology isn't "lost", it's just rent-seeking behaviour from equipment manufacturers creating defacto subscription services by making the cheapest crap they can and just telling you to buy a new one (or furnishing a new one for the few people who bother with RMA, knowing the 1 in 1000 people who do so are still not eating into the profits made off of the other 999 who just buy a second, third, and 99th one)
>>107810906Post more slutty rabbit hole Mig.
Steam controller will fix this.
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>>107811191>Ratbat
It's on purpose so they can sell more. Everyone does it. I hate it.
>>107811218ratbat owns, sorry about your taste
>>107811223What? I like her stuff.
1. Use your soldering skills to replace broken joystick with a new tmr joystic2. It never breaks again
>>107811235usually when someone >greentexts at you with just the subject of your post, it is assumed to be dismissive/insultinggood taste then anon, i wish i could find her old blog post about going to an air show with a special pass (industry worker special xxxtra access iirc) and describing how big (and therefore even sexier) modern fighter jets really arei thought it was sexy but a bit overblown but now i work at a place that works on helicopters and yeah. they big. and they hot>>107811237it's not that it's tmr that's better, it's that you hand soldered it properly instead of it being 0.000002mm of solder actually on there from a poorly calibrated wave station and you used an "enthusiast" intended-as-upgrade part actually made properly instead of lowest bidder trash
>>107810847It still has stick drift issues, I have one I bought ages ago and the left stick has drift unless I set a big deadzone.
>>107811248>it's not that it's tmr that's better, it's that you hand soldered it properly instead of it being 0.000002mm of solder actually on there from a poorly calibrated wave station and you used an "enthusiast" intended-as-upgrade part actually made properly instead of lowest bidder trashwrong
the controllers are made like shit but the drivers are even worse. smoothing is not a thing anymore. niglets will tell you smoothing is bad but there's a reason it existed, no pot or hall sensor is 100% accurate and any REAL high end input device (flight sticks, driving wheels, etc) would use a mechanical encoder
>>107811248>it's that you hand soldered it properly instead of it being 0.000002mm of solder actually on there from a poorly calibrated wave stationTMR sticks are simply better too, but you're right also
>>107811259hall effect shit is "better" but for a stick with like 8mm of throw being used to point a gun in a video game that intentionally has wonky view acceleration to be "realistic" it does not matter.and if you're a fighting game player using the analog stick it SUPER doesnt matter
>>107811272Hall effects is better for triggers, TMR is better then Hall effects in every way for sticks.
>>107811274if you are using the analog aspect of triggers you're better off with a dedicated device (HOTAS set or similar) and if you're just playing shootan then you should realize that "hair triggers" are actually a good thing and real life gun triggers aren't perfectly smooth analog pullsbasically every upgrade for controllers is better done by just not using a gamepad and getting a proper device for that kind of simulatorand for sticks i maintain my point>"better" but for a stick with like 8mm of throw being used to point a gun in a video game that intentionally has wonky view acceleration to be "realistic" it does not matter.
>>107811311Yes, that's why you set them to "digital" mode for shooters.
>>107811311>>"better" but for a stick with like 8mm of throw being used to point a gun in a video game that intentionally has wonky view acceleration to be "realistic" it does not matter.Customize your curves + gyro aiming. Even for movement I wouldn't downgrade to hall effects just because when TMR exists.
>>107811316>get 9999$ le ebin rapid trigger upgrade for your gamepad to play CoD: Warzone>use them as binary buttons anywayjust use a fucking mouse. even the cheapest ones have good microswitches these days, it's a solved problem.>>107811322>+ gyro aiming.exactly my point, even in like 2008 niggas were using hacked wiimotes to pwn noobs in Arma II. either use a 10$ gamepad becuase you don't care and/or are poor, or shell out for a proper input device that isn't a gamepad
lacks a few buttons, but I prefer high throw sticks. Wish I could get a controller that had nice gimbals but a full controller dpad/button complement.
>>107811311>basically every upgrade for controllers is better done by just not using a gamepad and getting a proper device for that kind of simulatorTo add, I have HOTAs and wheel+pedals but I only use them with VR for simulators. If I just want to lay back and play some arcadey racer without hassle I'll still do it behind the monitor and with a controller. Doesn't mean I don't want to get the best hardware within reason even for that. >>107811334>>get 9999$ le ebin rapid trigger upgrade for your gamepad to play CoD: Warzone>>use them as binary buttons anywayYou can do both, on demand. You can fully customize the haptic triggers on the DualSense on PC. >just use a fucking mouse. even the cheapest ones have good microswitches these days, it's a solved problem.Sometimes I like using a controller and laying back. >exactly my point, even in like 2008 niggas were using hacked wiimotes to pwn noobs in Arma II. either use a 10$ gamepad becuase you don't care and/or are poor, or shell out for a proper input device that isn't a gamepadYeah, gyro aiming is based.
>>107810847>>107811163>>107811220But anons, how are the glaziers going to make money if the kids can't break their windows? Our society is generating more value than ever before!
>>107810847I still use my original Xbox 360 and it's controller to this day. It is like 20 now or something works fine no issues.
>>107810847The MadCatz controller I bought 10 years ago had joystick drift after 2 months even though I barely used it.
>>107810847Why can't we get this form factor anymore? All controllers have the exact same design now and it's bulky and lame. It's just a flat surface with two grips.
>>107811927Yeah, if you ignore the massive battery compartment on the back.
>>107811927>All controllers have the exact same design now and it's bulky and lame.Lol wut.
>>107810847Got two Xbox Series X controllers for PC gaming and both started getting the same stick drift around the same time after about one to two years of use (left stick stuck in up position).Went back to my wired Xbox controller that despite having completely worn off rubber on the sticks still works perfectly. How in the fuck did they use such bad sticks for the XSX controller?Looking for a decent (bluetooth) PC controller to replace it with (linux compatible).
I have never had a joystick drift.But I am aware that I don't represent a significant portion of controllers.
>>107810847I had some dogshit pdp or smth Xbox controller for 8 years and it still works as new.>>107810906I want her to rape me lowkey.
>>107810924They stopped making them after Dreamcast.
>>107812808>I want her to rape me lowkey.
>>107810847On the contrary, it would be very easy to make those. Stick drift is a carefully engineered feature that's supposed to happen at just the right age to maximize profit from people buying replacement controllers, but not so early that people would seek out 3rd party brands just for longevity.It's harder to engineer things to fail reliably at a certain age than it is to just make good products.
>>107812808>I want her to rape me
>>107811030unironically a good brand, Im using their cyclone 2
>>107810847i bought a pallet of the microsoft wired xbox 360 controllers new in boxes to sell on ebay, people kept returning them because the left thumbstick didnt work, so i eventually tested all of them to find not a single controller had a left thumbstick that was even 90% responsive, most of them were only 70% responsive and a few did not even work in one direction. I got a junker 360 from a yardsale and tried to play halo on it and i have no idea how i even did it back in the day. the xbox one controllers are so superior its not even funny. .
>>107812823???????
>>107810847The new Steam Controller solved this
my two ps3 controllers work. that's all i need.
>>107812007must be underage, even my gf(female) is complaining controllers being too small
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1y3dBBPoQs
>>107813319https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klhFkIsV-lE
>>107810899Same.Bought an xbone controller after using a wired 360 controller for far too long.Neither drift when not given input but the joysticks themselves are pretty loose now. The 360 one is obviously worse.Bought a new Xbox controller just for Bluetooth connection.People must be really abusive as fuck nowadays on joysticks
>>107810924>>107812823I've seen a few recent ones from small companies but it seems they actually use what appears to be the same biaxial joint type mechanism as the typical potentiometer ones. No, thanks.
>>107811927Would be nice. GameSir, 8Bitdo, Flydigi, BigBigWon, etc. make loads of controller models with TMR sticks, hall triggers, 4 paddles, gyro and the rest and not one of them are shaped like the 360 controller.The only ones off the top of my head; Hyperkin make a licensed 360 clone but it the buttons are much more hard/clicky and sticks drift faster than the OGs ever did; Retro Fighters made a new controller called the Hunter 360 but their controllers feel shit and break or malfunction in other ways (got their D6 for the Dreamcast last year and it absolutely sucked).
>>107813410What's wrong with that? The Dualshock 3 used a similar type of hall effect sticks and had the tightest deadzone of any OEM controller (before Sony downgraded them to regular pots).
>>107811927>>107813307We have more options when it comes to size and shape then ever before that work cross different platforms (gamepads that is, not general controllers or joysticks and the like). Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Valve, Hori (re-imagined old fighting pads), 8BitDo (old Nintendo designs) + chink 3rd party based on the first 6 designs mentioned with slight size and shape variations. What more do you want? The main designs that works are popular because of that, they work.
>>107810847Because it doesn't increase shareholder value.
>>107813533Literally the same shit, Xbox controllers have changed less then PlayStation ones even. Got a SX and 360 controller right next to me in the drawer.
>>107810924>>107813410>>107813594TMR replaced Hall effect.
>>107810847Chinkshit Genius controller from 20 years ago still working.
>>107813594They become loose.>>107813642Alert me when they use TMR without the>same biaxial joint type mechanism as the typical potentiometer ones.Something more akin to >>107813319 >>107813337
>>107813672>They become loose.Maybe the cheapo ones all first party controllers use. Haven't had that issue in years anymore.
>>107813319>>107813337>>107813672>Something more akin to >>107813319 It had barely any travel.
>>107813722Probably more a hall effects problem if you use them on a computer with an adapter these days.
>>107813733>hall effectsOh right.
still have em lol
>>107813634the bumpers on any non-360 ones are garbage though, in including all the third party stuff
>>107810847You're right, instead the 360 controller had stick drift out of the box
>>107811003The D-pad looks solid.
Modern "Xbox Core" controllers are the best they've ever been in terms of quality, feel, and usability. It's easy to fall into the trap of "All Xbox controllers have been the same for 20 years", but actually dig those old controllers out of your closet and hold them. 360 d-pad sucks and the entire Xbox One controller just feels CHEAP in your hands. The modern Xbox Core controller actually feels good and it has real bluetooth (you don't need a special dongle from Microsoft, you can just pair it with your computer).
>>107810847you can still buy pic related, what about it is "lost"?
>>107811191What is thisWhy am i hardStop it
gulikit has hall effect joysticks and easily replaceable face buttons but I just end up invariably wearing out the shoulder buttons instead and then buying another like some sort of stockholm syndrome victimI need to see if generic replacements (that require soldering) meant for official xbox or switch controllers would work
>>107812823>>107813108Dreamcast and Saturn had hall effect switches.Fucking based
>>107813319Sega hardware was too based for this world.
>>107810847I don't think we ever had that technology.
Logitech still sells their F310
