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With the current state of the PC market I’m thinking of buying Apple, I know the M4 is powerful but how is MacOS? I heard Tahoe is shite but haven’t looked too deep into it.
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The main thing for me that took a while to click is that Windows leans more on hotkeys while MacOS is built around mouse input and gestures. Also multi-tasking on MacOS where you're working with multiple windows works better when you have those windows across multiple virtual desktops.
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>>107814469
>that Windows leans more on hotkeys while MacOS is built around mouse input and gestures.
For me it was the other way around, on Windows I did everything with the mouse, on MacOS I do everything with the keyboard
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>>107814412
>how is MacOS
It's utter dogshit. If you want the M4 go for the 24GB mini and use it as a fancy unix machine. Stick to the terminal and don't use your mouse or you'll be fucking miserable. Worst UX I've ever used. Xcode is the most hideous piece of software out there and I thought visual studio was bad.
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>>107814412
I am on Tahoe hackintosh and it runs better than last version
Still the same features as old macOS plus bunch of upgrades, nothing changed, people seething about it are bunch of microsoftsars false flagging.
Buy cheapest Mac Mini if you are poorfag.
If you don't mind spending buy cheapest M5 Mac Studio
The only thing that got worse on Mac is piracy, not that it became difficult but finding non virus apps became harder.
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>>107814757
can you even install your own software on those machines?
isn't that if the software is not signed you cant install it?
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>>107814757
>Theme: Liquid Ass
kwab
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>>107814412
download aerospace and configure it how you want. there are a few youtube videos to help you out but if you have ever done an i3 config it wont be hard.
best window manager for macos hands down
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>>107814829
Nah you can easily do piracy like installing your own software, but the problem is find cracked stuff without it being malware these days.
>>107814830
You don't know what are you talking about, you can turn off muh liquid ass, desktop features UX are still the same as last one.
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Genuinely hate the Finder, it's the worst file browser I've even used
Pre-Win11 browser > Dolphin > Win11 > Finder
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>>107815453
>https://bloomapp.club

Again wrong falseflag linux tranny, but in case you don't like the default one there are options.
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>>107815453
Nothing is worse than Win11's explorer. Finder is great, just kinda ugly looking since Tahoe and has a lot of stuff diabled by default.
Yazi is fully supported on Mac anyway so it doesn't matter either way.
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>>107815453
I’m curious, what do you dislike about it?
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>>107815618
No editable path text
No "go up 1 directory" button
No simple right click -> open in terminal
Font is tiny

I imagine some of those can be changed by fiddling with the options, but it puzzles me that's how it behaves by default
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>>107814412
You can watch anime and read manga perfectly well in it, but for visual novels you will often need something like Crossover or Parallels. If you can get past this last hurdle, it is just as useable as Windows.
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>>107815713
>No "go up 1 directory" button
cmd + up arrow
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>>107816356
Or just use columns view because anything else is for retards
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>>107814412
I’m having a lot of fun using my mac as an emulation machine, it runs every emulator I’ve tried flawlessly
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>>107815453
>Pre-Win11 browser
>Win11
can't even sort a folder with a few thousand photos without shitting itself lmao
doesn't remember the last selected file in a folder
doesn't have quicklook
doesn't have miller columns
freezes if you click on network drive if it is not accessible
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>>107817047
Buy an ad, tranny.
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>>107815713
>No editable path text
cmd+shift+g

>No "go up 1 directory" button
cmd+up

>No simple right click -> open in terminal
it's literally there

>Font is tiny
you can make it bigger. you can even have a custom font size in any directory
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>>107817092
Why do I have to make gang signs with my hands for this shit
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>>107817156
why do you need a computer? buy a tablet instead
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Linux has better software support than apple, with the killing of 32bit and then moving to arm, massive amounts of software stopped working and will never work again, this also made so lots of devs would drop mqc support from future releases altogether.
Didn't help either that they force metal instead of using allowing to use vulkan.
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>>107817182
lemme guess you are talking about your shitty games again. macs are for adults
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>>107817182
Lmao straight up lying now? Name one software that worked on x86 that doesn't work on ARM now go AHEAD.
>>107817156
Why did you buy MacBook / MacMini if you are not willing to learn how the environment works?
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>>107817225
Adults doesn't mean using adobe things and that's it nigga
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>>107817237
It's my work laptop. It also messes up my copy/paste muscle memory
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>>107814469
>>107814490
I do everything with keyboard on both. So I guess it really is up to the user. I find MacOS to be ever so slightly more keyboard user friendly because the Command key is more flexible than the Windows key.
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>>107817225
buy a toilet iJeet
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>>107817225
But you can play all the good games (I.E old or indie) easily on Mac
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>>107814412
Macos is fine. Some thing to get used to such as shortcuts, top panel, left sided buttons. But mostly its just an OS. Tahoe is buggy, kinda ugly. Still better than any DE on Linux though.
>>107817182
Lol. Sure, whatever you say. Abandoneware is sure the greatest software there is without any modern alternatives.
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>>107814620
>Worst UX I've ever used.
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>>107814412
The admittedly good hardware is completely wasted because it's locked behind shitty, unusable software hand-crafted and optimized by faggots for the express purpose of sucking as many cocks as possible.
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>>107814412
Take from someone who transitioned (>) last year and is lagging behind on Sequoia because liquid ass fud: Mac's a mixed bag. Some things are nicer than Windows, others are worse. You definitely need to put a little effort in getting used to some of the different paradigms. I could spend all day nitpicking, but I think the overall experience could be summarised as the operating system feels less cobbled together and you may find some things more pleasant than with Windows, but the more limited software ecosystem hurts and you'll find yourself missing little conveniences like right-click new text file. Recommended starter software: homebrew (WinGet replacement), Stats (load monitoring in status bar), Transmission (works nice on mac), Whiskey (gaymes), Kegworks Winery (things that don't work in whiskey), GrandPerspective (visual overview of disk usage), LuLu (much needed per-app firewall to complement other permissions), iTerm2 (separate terminal to give different permissions or VPN exclusion to), peazip (shitty alternative to 7zip but it's the best you'll get), IINA (mpv for mac). If you're /ldg/, there's also DrawThings which works quite nicely. Don't bother with native mac foobar, run it through emulation or use an alternative.
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>>107814412
Anon, remember that most people on /g/ haven't used a mac. They just parrot everything because hating apple is trendy here.
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>>107817020
i have that exact same problem with win10. fuck microsoft to the hilt, this is the last windows pc i will ever own.
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>>107814469

its the other way around

>>107814412

as much as tahoe is bloated to death, its 10x better experience than windows 11, just having an unix-like kernel underneath makes stuff so much easier
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>>107817182

rosetta 2 is pretty good at emulating x86, its just disabled by default
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>>107819251
It's not disabled by default, it's not even downloaded into the computer, and there were rumors that they wanted to sunset it in this version or the next, so you really shouldn't trust that it'll be always there.
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>>107814620
>Xcode is the most hideous piece of software
what did you even use xcode for you fucking lying jeet? don't tell me you got a mac for the first time in your life and immediately started writing something in objective-c or swift that is both non-trivial enough and with enough competence to accurately judge if something is good or not.
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>>107814829
>isn't that if the software is not signed you cant install it?
any software you compile on your machine (be it your own project or some open source code), is automatically exempt from code signing.
signing is optional for any other kind of bundled .app application, the OS will show you a scary warning saying the program is broken and can't be trusted but you can just go to the settings and click on "open anyway", at which point that message will never be shown again for that binary.
or you can just disable gatekeeper and have it work exactly like linux (because windows have its own version, smartscreen).
piracy usually requires you to disable SIP because normally programs can't inject code into other programs or mess with their memory, so you can also disable that if you want to and get a pretty standard linux or windows default.
both of these things can be disabled with a single, short command and a reboot, nothing even close to editing the registry or messing with kernel boot params or /etc config files
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>>107814412
Windows has become such dogshit in the last couple years macos is a massive upgrade. I used to be anti apple until i actually spent time on a macbook and now i will never go back
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>>107817182
>Linux has better software support than apple
lol. the best api under loonix is win32
>massive amounts of software stopped working and will never work again
cite literally 1 (one)
>Didn't help either that they force metal instead of using allowing to use vulkan.
funny because AAA games are releasing under macOS and iOS with native builds using metal like cyberpunk, the latest assassin's creeds and resident evils, while there are 0 (zero) ports for EITHER loonix OR android. oof
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>>107814620
skill issue
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there is no equivalent to macs

macs have:
>soldered SSD/RAM/WLAN
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 years
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on thesoldered SSD to save $0.05 on a dedicated chip
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replace
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen times
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcam
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flights
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware accelerators
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keys
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs

>keyboards with 63.5% failure rate
unheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"
just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any good
this list goes on forever
there's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter books
they are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
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>>107819750
Instead of posting this bilge over & over, explain to everyone, why I should use Desktop Linux over a Mac.
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>>107819770
>Instead of posting this trvthnvke over & over, explain to everyone, why I should use toilets over a street.
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>>107819398
>It's not disabled by default
it's not installed by default, but the system literally prompts you to install it when you attempt to run a x86 binary, which it does after a simple click on a "yes" button.
for a quick comparison, WSL on windows doesn't even work until you manually go and enable it in the old menu of "turn windows features on and off", and it will silently fail to open any distro with a cryptic error message until you install a missing component which it doesn't mention anywhere, like the hypervisor thingy or the container support.
>and there were rumors that they wanted to sunset it in this version or the next
embarrassing that you need to resort to lies and baseless rumors to support your nonexistent argument
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the deafening silence after the microjeet shills are called out and they deploy the damage control squad of pajeets that are unable to post anything other than copypastas or make a single compelling argument
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>>107819786
Just as I expected, you have no answer.

BTW, how do street shitters afford a Mac?



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