Is it a honeypot?
>>107815428
>>107815428While it's not the silver bullet some claim it is, it's not compromised either. Much better than factory jeetdroid, but you still need to know your shit in order to operate it safely.
>>107815659>you still need to know your shit in order to operate it safely.Nah, the defaults are pretty idiot proof.
>>107815428It's open source, regularly independently audited, and there are multiple law enforcement agencies around the world seething about it. It's imo solid. Weirdly enough, it attracts a lot of faggots/schizos/shills screeching about honeypots, which again tells me that it's actually solid.
>>107815428I doubt it is any more secure as any other garden variety Android phone, however the the data mining done by the various corporations like Google and the phone maker and some apps is not as invasive and should remain absent if you are careful to hand pick your apps for emphasis on privacy then you will do good at avoiding the data mining & telemetry
It's shit.>"sandboxed" google play services>looks like it was designed by a depressed 13 year oldJust use iodé OS instead. >uses MicroG>supports more devices
>>107815902>"sandboxed" google play servicesIt doesn't come with Google Play Services by default. The sandbox is for if you choose to install them.>looks like it was designed by a depressed 13 year oldWhat do you even mean by that and why does it matter?>Just use iodé OS instead. >uses MicroG>supports more devicesAnd has less than half the features.
>>107815902Stop talking about shit you have no idea about.
>buy a 450€ phone to use our OS SAARWhat's their endgoal?
>>107815659its a very fucking shiny silver bulletthe only thing that can fail is your own lack of opsec
>>107815950is that seriously a lot of money for you?
>>107815428I know they're planning to move away from Pixels, but it would be nice if they stick long enough for Google to have made the switch to the OpenTitan designs just for that extra bit of assurance that the secure element doesn't have a hardware backdoor.
>>107816000>I know they're planning to move away from PixelsThey are not planning to move away from Pixels, they plan on expanding the compatible devices outside of just Pixels.
>>107815902graphene only supports pixels because only pixels allow you to relock the bootloaderwith an unlocked bootloader it becomes trivial to dump the entire device imageyour shitty degoogled rom might stop google from spying on you, but it sure as hell will not protect you against glowniggersif all youre worried about is google, you shouldve just bought an iphone in the first place
>yet another anti-grapheneOS thread
is it possible to use gig driver apps with it?
Why can't anyone make an equivalent to the PC for smartphones? Every smartphone today is still just a clone of the iPhone with different spyware.
>>107816177I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be. The only things some people have trouble with is banking apps because a lot of them throw a tantrum if the root isn't thoroughly Googled, you can find which ones do and don't work here: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/#international-banking-apps>>107816226There are plenty of Linux distros that run on phones. Are you asking for modular hardware or something?
>>107815934>>looks like it was designed by a depressed 13 year old>What do you even mean by that and why does it matter?Pretty telling that half the people shilling this garbage never actually use it, no?
>>107816822Shut the fuck up, retard.
>edgy black and white icons that clash the moment you install anything elseYou can just get emo wallpaper and icon packs on lineageos. Besides LTT viewers, who is this for?
>>107816177The rider apps work so I assume the driver ones would as well. I was able to get the Uber driver app to install and open just now.
>>107816152>Nooo don't use MicroG>please keep using google hardware and services>we changed the wallpaper so you know its safe
>>107816822I don't use the default launcher, and the default launcher looks fine.
Everything is a honeypot if I spam it long enough on /g/
>>107815712>>107815902>>107815950>>107816859>>107816890I hope you're all "just pretending" to be retarded.
>>107816891It looks worse than every random jeet rom from XDA, and is probably about as secure too
>>107816890There are no google services installed by default
>>107816946No, just an option to install it and no alternatives
>>107816971What do you mean "no alternatives"? It's completely functional without it. I don't have it installed on mine and I get most of my apps from Accrescent and F-Droid, with a few from Aurora.
Ah, I see glowniggers entered the thread and immediately started shitting all over it.
>>107816997>What do you mean "no alternatives"?Big google play button, no aurora store button, no f-droid button, no microG button, gotta do all of that yourself so you might as well just use another rom.
>>107816891Too bad that third party icons packs and launchers don't apply to the multitasking overview. Anyone who actually uses AOSP on a daily basis would be aware of these simple QOF things.
>>107817075>t. never used it in his entire life>>107816859It literally makes every icon monochromatic, retard.
>>107816859This is why I don't use icon packs or other reskins. I'm done hiding apps from my homescreen just because them looking different.
>>107817100>>t. never used it in his entire lifeTried it, it sucked.>It literally makes every icon monochromatic, retard.That literally isn't the case in the picture I provided, nor in any other screenshots you will find. I'd invite you to take your own, but we all know you don't actually use this project.
>>107817103Just use a rom that doesn't make retarded design choices and also bothers to include the f-droid privilege extension so you don't need to manually approve every app installation and update. If LTT is promoting it, it's probably pointless and stupid.
>have GrapheneOS device >glowies immediately target you at airports, traffic stops etc. once they see it because it's designated as a "terrorist device"
>have GrapheneOS device>install Google Play Services because you're just a lazy larping nigger>glowies already have all of your data handed to them on a silver platter as normal
>nononono don't use openstreetmap>here, we 'sandboxed' google maps so you can keep using that!yup, it's a honeypot
You know how some wintoddlers think that by using LTSC or some random jeet debloat script that they're somehow "safe" or ahead of the curve? Graphene OS is basically for that kind of person. Performative and without principle or effect.
>>107817165I go through about 2 dozen airports a year with my GOS pixel and have never once been stopped.>>107817183Or don't install Play Services? And even if you do they have access to significantly less information than they would on Android.>>107817232Organic Maps is in Accrescent.I can never tell if the obsessive FUD is coming from people seething about it being Pixel-only, or feds trying to discourage people from using it, or just plain retardation.
>>107815428I'm sad they stopped supporting my 5a, I don't get updates anymore.
>>107817303>Or don't install Play Services? And even if you do they have access to significantly less information than they would on Android.Why don't they include microG or the f-droid privilege extension? It's because they **want** you to use Google Play Services. I seem to remember one of their team members saying on their forums that the point was not to be "anti-google", and that was posted all over /g/.>Organic Maps is in Accrescent.CoMaps from F-droid for me.
>>107817326What exactly would MicroG solve that sandboxed Play Services don't? MicroG still uses Google's libraries and communicates with Google's servers. As for the F-Droid privilege extension, it would go against the core design of GOS in general. Plus the devs don't trust F-Droid in the first place.
>>107817526>What exactly would MicroG solve that sandboxed Play Services don't?Makes some apps using openstreetmap inplace of google maps for one.>MicroG still uses Google's libraries and communicates with Google's servers.Many GNU/Linux distributions still ship some proprietary software be it drivers or binary blobs, but it is still far better than rawdogging Windows. The same is true on AOSP: better some freedom than none. >As for the F-Droid privilege extension, it would go against the core design of GOS in general. Plus the devs don't trust F-Droid in the first place.Well that's just fucking stupid, and sort of proves my point about GOS in general. All of the GOS hype is meant to distract and misdirect people from alternatives that would almost have a chance at making some impact.
>Graphene OS doesn't come with Google Play Services>Graphene OS doesn't trust f-droidOkay so they really do intend for you to use Google Play Services anyway, glad we finally agree.
>>107817564>Many GNU/Linux distributions still ship some proprietary software be it drivers or binary blobs, but it is still far better than rawdogging Windows. The same is true on AOSP: better some freedom than none. This is just an argument for not installing Play Services. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I don't have them installed and I've used it for years just fine. It's not like MicroG is incompatible if you really want it.>Well that's just fucking stupid, Well it makes modifications at compile time and constitutes a single point of failure. Given that their number one goal is to minimize attack surface, it's just consistency on their part. >and sort of proves my point about GOS in general. All of the GOS hype is meant to distract and misdirect people from alternatives that would almost have a chance at making some impact.There weren't any alternatives before Micay showed up, and there still aren't alternatives with comparable feature sets now.>>107817610They intend for you to use Accrescent, and possibly Obtainium.
>>107817146>include the f-droid privilege extension so you don't need to manually approve every app installation and updatenot required in an Android thats not 8 years out of date
>>107817856You can't expect jeets relying on second hand e-waste to know what the current software landscape looks like.
>>107815676Not really. Idiots aren't careful about permissions and other weaknesses. Idiots don't know every app can see what other app is installed in the same profile. Idiots don't know about IPC and that their offline proprietary app that has local permissions and a proprietary app that only has network permissions can just talk with each other and share data about anything you store on your device. Idiots don't know about DRM ID that breaks anonymity between profiles when the same app is installed in different profiles. Idiots don't know how intrusive google play services is and google libraries are in installed apps, even when sandboxed. Idiots don't know about advertising ID in Google play. Idiots don't know how intrusive sensors permissions are (enabled by default).Unless you are very careful about how you use your device, it's almost impossible to use it privately with proprietary apps installed. And pretty much impossible to have actual anonymity.Sure it's better than having google play installed as root, but it certainly doesn't solve that many privacy issues if not used with extreme caution.
