how true is this
>>107824879this is 100% truesource: my ass
>>107824879The fact that we still aren’t building nuclear power plants does seem to indicate this
>>107824879my insider looked into this. he's not sure.
>>107824879just gotta know when to sell and go short
>>107824879>to obtain profit that is impossibleIt's wild how freaked out people get because they dont understand how the economy worksThing complicated = It's aliens/govt conspiracy
>>107825052Revenue is not profit mr. drone
>>107824879Ask grok and find out.
>>107824879Probably not too far off
>>107824939USA just built a new one.
Genuinely asking, I thought modern GPUs used like GDDR7 ram, whereas the ram that's being ordered en mass is DDR5. I've heard it's being bought in a prefab wafer state, but does that actually matter since GDDR7 is not DDR5? Can it be made into GDDR7 from that state? If it can't than OP's pic isn't entirely true.
>>107825172they are made in the same production linesand they need both ram and vram
>>107824879Are you telling me the economy is fake?
>>107824879Money is created out of thin air each time a bank purchases a loan contract from you. They tell you that you will find your money with them at a deposit, but that money is not accounted for with central bank reserves, and all the other mechanisms in place to limit that process are often ignored because banks are not utterly incompetent and give profitable and safe loans, so they'll always be left alone.This accounts for 98% of the money in the supply, the money that goes back and forth, yes overwhelmingly more than cash, all the business transaction money, salaries, etc.Giant economies like the US constantly create new money and have a preference to pass the load down before it's destroyed, very long down the road, making sure the effect is multiplied.
>>107824879this is retardeditd be like writing a grocery list to cater a wedding thats happening in 1 month and being like NUH UH YEAH THAT DOESNT EXIST THE FOOD HASNT EVEN BEEN PRODUCED AND THE WEDDING MIGHT NOT EVEN HAPPEN FOR A PERSON THA MIGHT NOT EVEN EXIST YET THIS IS SO FAKEjews aside you can still PLAN things you fuckin dumbass twitter jeet. you should kill yourself NOW.
>>107825216Banks are usually legally allowed to lend out 10 currency units for every single one they have in their custody.
>>107825052It's wild how you shift your ignorance towards what you perceive as the opposing side, in a self-destructive tard-stupor. Spiritually Indian.
>>107825052>how the economy worksexplain us how the economy works
>>107825476Judaism
>>107824879it's true enough but some of it might work out anyway
>>107825426That would be the money multiplier myth. It's simpler than that by law. The credit creation theory is the empirical - the real one.
>>107825476NTAEveryone does whatever they can to make the most money. Micron won't sell you chips they will make in a month because they don't know how much the market price for them will be then, and they expect it to raise.Taxes and interest rates used to be a dampening force on wild bubbly circlejerks, but that's communism or something
>>107824879Literally 100% truth. You cannot prove him wrong.
>>107825052it's amazing how you point to the economy when it will be completely destroyed by AI because nobody will have a job, so no dollars will flow into corporations that rely on the public to pay them for the shit they make. so you have an inelastic, non-existent demand for goods that no longer exist because the companies that make them are all bankrupt. do you realize how fucking stupid you sound? this is a monopoly board with every hotel and house and asset on boardwalk and all the money is on board walk, every player on the map is bankrupt. they cannot pay anything because boardwalk has all the money. do you understand this violates fundamental principles of economics? this makes the economic model break. you are an idiot.
>>107825426the truth is that they can and do lend out 100:1 to 1000:1 for one sole reason. nobody audits the federal reserve. nobody can audit them. the government is entirely owned by the banks because the government is insolvent. which means they do whatever the banks tell them to to live another day lest their entire loan get called in at once. immediately bankrupting the government.
>>107824939Didn't trump mandate that datacenters should be built with an small nuclear plant besides them to not strangle the rest of the electricity supply?
>>107824879I mean yeah it's true right nowBut that could all change in the future which is basically what the entire US economy is counting on In other news, for the first time in the entire history of their existence Nvidia has hired a Chief Marketing Officer Surely that is a good sign
>>107825778Yes Trump repeated exactly what all the tech CEOs that said they needed nuclear plants
>>107824879Untrue. With the power of AI everything is possible.
>>107825102Isn't it cute when the 70IQ street shitters try to be subversive?
>>107824879
>>107825678>Micron won't sell you chips they will make in a month because they don't know how much the market price for them will be then, and they expect it to raisenope. this doesn't happen.Micron exited the consumer market because the margins were lower and the market is more or less the same every year.the same happens with other consumer devices, outside of computers, such as phones.now the enterprise market is bigger becausefor each server CPU you sell 128GB++++ while for each consumer CPU you sell 8/16, 32GB at best.DDR4 and DDR5 are the same, the differences are the extra chip for the enterprise dimms which does the CRC check.the reason why Micron and other companies, like Novidia, switched to enterprise all of a sudden, is due to the fake money that are in circulation.Micron doesn't do the jewish thing of giving GPUs as if its a loan, but they know that retards (i.e. openAI) will gladly use their influence to get some cash and pay them unimaginable margins for DRAM.another reason is the fact that micron does deals NOW, with CURRENT prices to sell memory in the future.This give a company the cash influx to expand.all this market traffic, isn't driven by profit. nobody makes any profit in AI right now. THey want to build an empire and milk it later, that's why they throw billions via loans and VC at it.
>>107825778>hire cmo>relabel data center to ai factory>suddenly nvidia is critical infrastructure construction the same as a port, a bridge, or trainsholy fuck i hate these people. its nothing but nonsense and these jobs are handed out to the friends of people who are already in powereither you are part of the social club and get rewarded or you are not and get nothing. skill is irrelevant
>>107824879>purchased with non-existent moneyThey don't seem to mind this when it's for fattening up insolent ghetto blacks
>>107825940They are not pre-selling to the business customers either.
>>107824879The purpose of a system is what it does. It's been gradually but systematically curtailing the general public's capacity to find, access and process information freely over the last decade, I'd say RAM is prohibitively expensive because the ruling class doesn't want you to have a computer capable of running the next generation of software. Please log into the smart dumb terminal using your digital ID.
>>107824879harsh commentary from a guy with an AI generated pfp
>>107825778It's just a title. People swapping jobs want a better title. They always had marketing
>>107826082RAM is expensive because others will pay those expensive prices
>>107825217so he's right?
>>107826136No. The wedding is in Two More Weeks. You're just jealous because you're not invited.
95% likelihood >>107826147 is a spambot running in some forgotten corner of a shillfarm they forgot to update.
>>107825217Do you often plan groceries for a cake for a wedding between people that don't exist?
>>107826159I accept your concession
>>107826166sometimes i plan to buy thingsi understand your kind cant see more than a day into the future at best, but please understand some people come from countries where the average iq isnt literally 70. in some of these 100 avg countries we dont eat cow shit either.
>dude what if nuclear reactors make a 10 mile piece of shitty ass wasteland no one would ever go to anyway uninhabitablei really really don't care anymorei bet some 20 year old clods fresh into their collegiate messianic complex do but fuck itjust build baby build so i can still play my shitty ass retro games when my current hardware fails
>>107824879yes anon, pre-ordering is actually common in industry, typically companies place supply contracts ahead of time so that when it comes time to manufacture shit they have what they need to manufacture shit. some items/resources also have a long lead time and contracts have to be placed months in advance; aerospace is particularly like this. smooth brain faggots that have never worked in any industry often find it hard to process that the future has to be planned for. every industry is like this and some industries more than others. as for not making money, this is probably also true. but the twitter faggot in your pic is acting like the rest of what he posted is somehow omg heckin' goodnessarino so craaaaazy, rather that what every company needs to do in order to actually trade.
>>107825171WOWThe one that started building during Obama?
>>107824879>twitter remake of the reddit screencap of the signal message posted to bsky yesterday
>>107826187By your own analogy they don't even exist though. So are you planning for something that will not happen or do you expect to attend a wedding between nonexistent people?
>>107826277you are brown and it would be nice if you people didnt have internet to spam advertisements everywhere.all you do is poop on everything and you are made of poop
>>107826296I accept your concession
>nnnoooooo it's MEE who needs to hog all the RAM because because because>...>muh shitty sloppy unoptimized bideo gaymen!!!!>fuck you, mr. AI for taking MY RAMThis is how delusional you AI hating Ludd ass niggers sound
>>107824879>>107824901>what is a future contractthis upsets the droidjeet
>>107824939Three miles island will re-open for microsoft which is now a member of the world nuclear association.
>>107824879>how true is thisNot very. The issue is that OpenAI just straight up bought a bunch of silicon wafers and put them in storage and it dramatically impacted RAM supply.
>>107825217>a wedding thats happening in 1 monthBut the wedding is not happening. In reality, you are single and alone, gooning away in your bedroom to AI porn until the day you die.
>>107824879more likely to be true than untrue
>>107824879I hate the term, but if anything this is a prime example of trvthnvke.Most AI ceos talk is nothing but a "trust me bro" scam>>107825778>AI chip firm>now it needs a CMOZAMN! I thought they didnt needed one because AI is suppossed to be so HAWT that it would be selling by itself>alsodidnt microslop had lo lower its expectations because their salesmen could not convince corpos to buy their AI?? For the new hotness, AI is surely in need of people to convince us to buy it.
>>107826438*fart*saaar i loveing to discus ai. i have propose an equation with potential impact for huimanitye = mc^2 + AI
>>107824879It's missing the broader point. USD is toilet paper and devalues daily.
>>107825052not many normies can comprehend how fucking kiked and retarded the economy actually worksthe fact that some ultra rich nigger can just get a billion dollar loan to boost his product that actually doesn't make a profit breaks the goys mind
>>107825778they need a cmo now that they're actually selling to the most retarded goys, pro-AI cattle
>>107824879there are literally free open source models that are very goodwho the fuck is gonna pay for this shit when there are free alternatives? nobody pays for claud and chatgpt as it is
>>107826868When they're good enough to replace workers employers will pay or something like that
>Not to mention most of that future RAM will be SOCAMM and therefore completely unusuable in the consumer market if they ever did want to resell it
>>107825426>>107825717Reserve ratios were quietly removed during COVID and have never been restored. There is legally no limit so it doesn't matter who gets audited.
>>107826868People pay for it, just not enough. They are trying to do the uber model of subsidize consumers to get mass adoption, then jack up the prices once they are hookedThe problem is that they would need to jack the prices like 100x for normal plans, and 10x for the most expensive ones, for a service that doesn't have a moat. People have no problem swapping models, working people (ie those who would be willing to pay the most) change models like gloves, and literally nobody cares which cloud they get their answers from. It's a shit business.
>>107824879billionaire bought RAM to strangle competition, it's as shrimple as that
>>107825426In what country? I've never heard of this.
>>107825217>our previous wedding had 100 guests.>the current wedding had whooping 1000 guests! (note: 90% of the costs was subsidized by investors speculating on the 1000% growth)>we are now building dedicated mega wedding hall for up to 1000000 guests to meet predicted future demands. We are going to buy all the steaks and wine produced in next month to meet the demand for food. Don't worry, we will surely pay for everything after our millions of future guests pay us money for some reason we haven't figured out yet.>don't overthink it. the line goes up!
>>107827541>100x for normal plans, and 10x for the most expensive onesgoing from $20 per month to $2000 per month will happen when workers are required to use AI to be twice as productive. companies will pay that amount on behalf of each employee but don't expect a raise any time soon. just be grateful you have a job that can't be fully automated.>a service that doesn't have a moat.why do you think they're monopolising all the RAM?
>>107826792When you see people still talking about how "company A can't make profit on XYZ so it's all gonna collapse" or "so-and-so hasn't made profit, it's over", you know you're talking to people who have no fucking clue. They still think it's late XIX century and it's all about having a lot of gold coins in the bank.>>107827017No, it's actually even simpler than whatever talmud fantasy about incomprehensible dark things you've picked up from /pol/. Megacorps just want to capture markets. All the rest of the things that happen to economy are side-effects of the fact that they are the de-facto powers.
The bubble's gonna pop this year. The amount of hate AI is getting right now is massive, and people are not using it enough to generate trillions of dollars. At this point, it's a game of CEOs playing chicken, trying to get the line to go up one more quarter, before golden parachuting out, as the global economy crumbles.
>>107828108The thing is, all the hardware companies get to profit either way.
>>107824879>nobody here posted the Google/Microsoft jeet CEOs or Zuckerberg saying they have millions of unused GPUs because they 1) Don't have the data centers built up yet 2) There's no electricity to power these thingsYou fucking faggots are worthless. What's te point of discussing if this is "true" or not but not posting the words coming out of these AI faggots' mouths saying it's true?
>>107828287Better have the GPUs ready than building a new datacenter and then not having any GPUs readyThere's many more companies that can make a prefabricated warehouse and lay wires compated to just nvidia
>>107828108>The bubble's gonna pop this year.Do you think that OpenAI will have less revenue this year than last year? Or could the bubble pop and OpenAI still have a successful year? What would it take to convince you that you were wrong about the existence of a bubble?
>>107828366>What would it take to convince you that you were wrong about the existence of a bubble?Mass adoption of AI to the level of which all these companies believe AI is being adopted. Proof that AI has more use for it than writing work emails, and gen'ing your MLP porn.
>>107828407Thanks for answering honestly. I'm not sure I completely understand your answers though.>Mass adoption of AI to the level of which all these companies believe AI is being adopted.Picrel shows 80%-90% adoption by companies. Maybe you have a different criterion in mind for determining when mass adoption is reached.>Proof that AI has more use for it than writing work emails, and gen'ing your MLP porn.What about generating code? The Grok team are complaining that they can't use Claude to automate their dev work any more, so it's not like the only use for these tools is generating unmaintainable indie game slop.
>>107825720This is the most retarded idea I've heard regarding power satisfaction. Which makes it totally possible for trump to have said that
>>107828519>Picrel shows 80%-90% adoption by companies.Because middle management thinks AI is magic, and dream of a day where they can all fire you, and just have AI do everything. Studies have shown forcing AI onto your workers does not speed up the work process, and at times even slows it down. Again, the people who see AI as the thing that lets them quickly create a bang up work AI, believe it's the future.>The Grok team are complaining that they can't use Claude to automate their dev work any moreYou mean AI people are complaining they can't use AI more?... I wouldn't exactly say Twitter is the gold standard of website/app development, either. I'm sure you'll call me a troon, but it's full of dumbass shit. Try uploading a 9:16 video, like has become standard on places like youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok, and on Twitter's desktop browser, you get ugly black bars on the side.
>>107828573bang up work email*
>>107828573Actually, I just double checked on Twitter's app itself. If you look at a tweet with a video embedded in it, it'll crop and zoom in. But if you click on the video AGAIN, it'll show it uncropped. You can then swipe down to explore Twitter's version of reels, which no one fucking knows actually exists. Brilliant design. I'm sure this pleases everyone. Either reformat your videos assuming they'll be cropped in the way Twitter likes them to be cropped, or have the expectation that people will tap your post, and then tap your video to see it in its proper framing.
>>107824879do you nerds not understand futures markets?
>>107828108They really fucked up to get people to hate ai. I mean how fucking stupid. It wouldn't be hard to get people to love ai if you had an iq in the triple digits. They abused, misused, and forced the fuck out of it.
>>107828762Fucked up? Maybe, but the whole "it's gonna be like terminator" thing to get everything into the news and freak people out as a way to perversely get investment is fucked up, but it worked.
>>107828762What's there to love about it? It's at most a mild convenience in practical day to day life. Vibe coding is a fucking meme. It genuinely, genuinely has only been revolutionary to coomers. Life has utterly changed for the people who love having pictures of Princess Peach twerking.
>>107828798No venture capitalist is sitting there thinking "I wonder if I should give billions to OpenAI" and then hears that companies could lose control of their AI and cause a huge catastrophe, and then thinks "Yes! This is what convinced me that it will be profitable". If that worked as a strategy for gaining investment then oil companies would have been the first to raise the alarm about climate change, and cigarette companies would have been bragging about how much cancer they cause.
>>107824879Approximately 12.5%.
>>107825698its always been fake lil bro
>>107828762>what people like is what the elites do
>2022 AI skeptics: AI progress has stopped, the market will collapse now>*market grows*>2023 AI skeptics: the market was just irrational, it will definitely collapse this year>*market grows*>2024 AI skeptics: the market was just irrational, it will definitely collapse this year>*market grows*>2025 AI skeptics: the market was just irrational, it will definitely collapse this year>*market grows*don't take investment or tech advice from marxists
>>107828891>if you dont think that giving free bbc porn edits to indians is a profitable business and a good thing for the world then you're a communistI don't agree.
>>107828891Companies are spending trillions, destroying the consumer computing market, to create AI products that no one is using.
>>107828366>Do you think that OpenAI will have less revenue this year than last year?No, but they're also signing more deals than last year, so they're still expanding the negative position they're in.They have no path to profit and funding will eventually dry up.
>>107828819lol, who do you think venture capitalists are, exactly? All-wise, all-knowing all seeing geniuses? That would not explain recent financial history.Anyway, that doesn't matter because the hype was enough to get numerous government panels and hearings, laws passed, and so on. I wouldn't be surprised if Yudkowski was on OpenAI's payroll. Then you get the people saying OK it's inevitable, it's just a race to see who gets it first and controls it and that created an investment frenzy.It's going to end up being commodity shit that they do on a low margin basis and most of these companies will go bankrupt. But it was in fact a working plan to get retarded investors and their vc shepherds to give them all of this money even if you think it's too dumb for the people who brought you the 2008 crash
>>107828910>free porn>>107828913>no one is usingi guess no one is buying tokens for coding then
>>107828891I'm not a marxist and I'm happy to take profits in the stock market from other people's stupidity, but Google 2.0 is not AGI and pretty sure the music will stop and most of these companies will not have chairs.
>>107828810It's potential is very exciting and they've gone and fucked up so bad they are making people hate it. The slop, the appeal to it's authority, millions of jobs being lost before contingencies were put in place, the intrusive data centers being built in clandestine ways stealing water and electric, the skyrocketing computer parts prices, people don't know whether videos are real or not anymore, the surveillance and ai spying is oppressive, and you just know corporations are using ai and machine learning to squeeze us of even more money in every conceivable facet.Just makes me feel so hateful to take something that could improve our lives so much and use it to make our lives worse. And if they ever reach a point where ai and it's autonomous robots can replace most of us, they'll kill us with a pandemic rather than implementing ubi. We aren't needed for their transhumanist fantasies and they used us to make it all possible.
>>107828946People are using it, just not on the scale that justifies the multi-trillion dollars of fluff. The good news is that people are in fact paying for tokens so that Jewglr/Faceberg ads aren't in it. It will just be another app in 5 years.
>>107828937>lol, who do you think venture capitalists are, exactly? All-wise, all-knowing all seeing geniuses? That would not explain recent financial history.The average venture capitalist knows more than about investing than the average /g/ anon. Most VC bets don't pay off but it only takes one 100x unicorn to make up for the loss of the other 99 investments. They don't have to be all-knowing they just have to keep beating the market. There wouldn't be any VCs if they all lost all their money.
>>107829013>gamblers are very smart people because sometimes one of them wins the jackpot
>>107825426This is an infinite money glitch if banks lend to each other.> Bank A and Bank B have $1 each.> Both are allowed to lend $10, each are allowed to create $9 out of thin air.> A asks for $10 loan from B.> A has $11. B has $0.> B asks for a loan of $110 from A.> B has $110, A has $0.> A asks for a loan of $1100 from Betc etc.
>>107829034That's a great analogy, as long as VCs go bankrupt as often as gamblers.
>>107829013>Most VC bets don't pay offThat's for sure.
AI will, in fact, be a ubiquitous as the internet. Big expansion, big contraction, long steady rise as it becomes standard in essentially every aspect of our lives. I'm not surprised at all that /g/ is full of the same kind of retard who insisted the internet would just be a fad.
>>107824879Most of that post is retarded you can preorder or reserve shit all the time. This is like flipping out over reserving a table at a restaurant
>>107829131but if people eat until they are full on monday then who will go to the restaurant on tuesday?
>>107824879No, it's just a moron flailing around for attention from the gullible. Good job falling for it, rodent.>>107825052Correct.>>107825091>DUhhhhhr I'm eh-STUPIDNo one cares, beaner.>>107825129>muh JewsYou're braindead.>>107825446>You's Indian gueyNo, your mind is just an outrage machine incapable of critical thought. I recommend blowing your own brains out.>>107825698>DUhhhhhr I'm eh-STUPIDNo one cares, beaner.
>>107829122In the 90s, the internet had massive practical uses that could easily be explained in the simplest terms. Email. Communication. Information sharing. There are practical uses for AI. But the entirety of the American economic growth right now is driven by the assumption that the technology that makes writing work emails a little easier is going to utterly transform the world.
>>107824879>>107825052>>107829229Not to mention this entire screed is predicated upon the rodent's distress that it has to pay a couple hundred more bucks to play its video gaymes at max settings. That's like, a whole 2 extra shifts at Taco Bell. Basically the incel version of le holocaust.
>>107829249Wow, you're really selling your AI horseshit with these hot takes and behaving like a wounded animal, Devansh.
>>107829249>it's just RAM prices>Let me conveniently forget that these companies are firing people because they believe you can be replaced by ChatGPT
>>107824879Indian name, you can safely ignore everything it says.
what AI people think will happen>AI will make 1 person 5 times more productive>we will all live in a bountiful utopia as everyone everywhere is creating vastly more value than ever beforewhat will actually happen >AI will make 1 person 5 times more productive>4 out of 5 people will lose their jobs
>>107824879Most tech development happened in the 70s-90s when there were a dozen companies for each part.>don't stop a few companies from buying out all their opposition>don't break up the remaining massive companies>prices skyrocketwho could have seen this coming
>>107829427This dude 100% vibe codes, and thinks he's on the path to getting his lambo through it.
>>107829465Tick tock. :)
>>107829427What exactly do you use ai for?
>>107829548I use it to augment my whiteness.
>>107829347what will actually happen >AI will make nobody more productive, will be used as an excuse to fire local workers for cheap overseas labor
>>107829622>an excuse to fire local workers for cheap overseas laborcompanies have managed to do that just fine for decades without needing AI as an excuse
>>107829574>translation: "I generate fursonas"
>>107824879everything you see is fake and gay, especially the economy >>107825052>guy A pay 100 to guy B to eat a shit, then guy B pay guy A 100 to eat shit>in the end they gain nothing but the GDP went up by 200here's your economy you fucking npc'
>>107825052its a lot simpler than that. either A) the AI experiment suceeds and they make record profit or B) it crashes, they get a record buy out, and they start a new grift.
>>107830957So you're saying that if someone pays for something disgusts you, it shouldn't be included in the GDP figures? What percentage of the economy is people doing that sort of thing? Probably less than 1%, and the amount probably doesn't change much from year to year, so GDP figures are 99% accurate. That makes them more accurate than every source of news and every politician and every tech CEO.
>>107824879Jews
>profit is impossibleMy brother in Christ, if they get to anything approaching human level AI, then there is essentially unlimited profit. AGI transcends capitalism.After the release of Gemini 3 and Claude Opus 4.5, I am pretty confident they can get there. There is no wall.
