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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.debian.org
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

>Which distro should I choose?
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
https://nosystemd.org
>What are some cool programs?
https://suckless.org
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://www.commandlinefu.com
>Where can I learn the command line?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.fsf.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
https://www.eff.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware
https://www.privacytools.io
https://www.privacyguides.org
https://prism-break.org/en

GNU/Linux Games: >>>/vg/lgg
Previous thread: >>107807799
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The last time I tried LXQt on Wayland, you couldn't even pull up the start menu via the keyboard. How's Wayland on LXQt nowadays? I just want a lightweight DE that works with Wayland.
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dear goodness i really need to learn how to make an fvwm config, these fglt pics keep inspiring me >~<
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>have xfce4 as my default desktop but use Bspwm because it is not as heavy, everything is great
>have random issues, sometimes SOME games like vkQuake say 'couldn't create a vulkan device' (yes, every game I run is via umu-run and proton-ge or steam proton)
>sometimes they work though...
>spend time thinking about it, is this a problem with the prefix or something else
>remade the prefix couple of times but that made no difference
>test xfce4, everything works perfectly
>no difference in 'env' outside of the typical xfce related session stuff
>realize that "nvidia-settings --load-config-only" needs to be in bspwmrc
Is this really the only solution? I always thought that the driver _is_there_ all the time regardless. Not sure if I explained everything clearly enough.
What is even stranger is that I have been using bspwm for a couple of weeks now and did not notice that many issues before I installed vkQuake.
I already solved this but this is still somewhat strange.
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Linux newfag here, looking for a DE that's preferably lightweight and has the option to automatically disable the compositor for fullscreen applications (for muh VRR). Been using Cinnamon but I hate the inconsistent scrollbar and how you can't turn off the window shadows.
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macbro here. i tried kali, arch, and fedora, and i don't see the point in any of them. i'm sticking with macOS
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>>107825751
>preferably lightweight and has the option to automatically disable the compositor for fullscreen applications
The lightest DE with proper Wayland support is Lxqt
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>>107825780
Any with X11? I see xfce lets you disable the compositor, but didn't see any setting to do it automatically in fullscreen.
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>>107825751
You can turn off the shadows via environment variable
>export MUFFIN_NO_SHADOWS=1
Better have it /etc/environment.
Some windows might still have shadows and for this you need to use ~/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
Something like this
>menu, .context-menu, decoration, window-frame, popup {
> box-shadow: none;
>}
You can turn off Cinnamon compositing in fullscreen windows via the general preferences if I remember correctly.
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>>107825818
>VRR
>X11
I'm so sorry, Anon...
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>>107825818
You can use LXQt with X11 too. In fact that is the more supported environment. The Wayland support is brand new and still developing.
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>>107825846
Thanks Anon, I'll try those settings out. Anything to stop the scrollbar from shrinking/autohiding as well? Been happy with Cinnamon outside those two things.

>>107825850
It just werks with compositing turned off.
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>>107825818
In Xfce4 you need to assign a keyboard shortcut to toggle it for you something like this
toggle compositing on/off:
>sh -c 'xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/use_compositing -s $(if xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/use_compositing | grep -qx true; then echo false; else echo true; fi);'
then reset desktop (because toggling it on and off will mess up the panels sometimes):
>sh -c 'xfce4-panel -r; xfdesktop --reload'
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>>107825872
If you turn off compositing then you have no transparency and shit black borders instead of shadows around menus, etc.
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>>107825872
I don't remember the scrollbar thing. I have altered that permanently for my librewolf via about:config but if cinnamon had something in general it should be somewhere in the preferences. Just explore every setting in the control panel thingy.
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>>107825908
I know, that's why I'm looking for something that automatically toggles it since I want transparencies and stuff on the desktop but I also want VRR to work.
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>>107825931
>that's why I'm looking for something that automatically toggles it
Wayland.
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>>107825931
>>107825908
>>107825942
Jesus christ are you all blind/stupid
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>>107825942
How is Wayland's compatibility with stuff that was written with X11 in mind? I was under the impression it was still too early to be a full replacement.
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>>107826118
Very good actually, apart from gimmick applications not working and things that use overlay windows / pop-ups, etc (that can be hit or miss with multiple monitors) most will work just fine.

There are some issues with scientific applications that have specific needs but in general XWayland is a remarkable compatibility layer for X11 on top of Wayland. You won't have any problems running most graphical applications and games, etc, that don't have any particular special needs.
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I like gnome but I also want a de that uses fuck all ram so when I'm gayming I can not worry to much as I'm stuck on 16gb because of Jews. What de is kind of like gnome? like so I can use win/super to make the windows pop around and shit I love that and I'm used to it. Tl;Dr what is gnome like but uses less system resources?
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>>107826176
When you reboot and log in, do a 'free -h' and post the image here.
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>saved a 2013 toshiba satellite from ewaste
>took it apart, serviced it, got a pentium from aliexpress to upgrade the celeron (this chipset is locked by intel, so while you CAN put an i5 in it, it will turn off after exactly 30 minutes)
>added another 4gb of ram and an SSD
>threw Manjaro on it instead of windows 10 it had before (must have been fun with 4 gigs of ram)
>KDE effects are actually smoother and nicer than on my nvidia desktop
>can watch 1080p youtube vids and somehow the 13 year old battery can last two hours under heavy usage
feels nice to save tech from being thrown out, it's really snappy now, too bad intel put that retarded CPU limitation in it
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Is it wise to change the mesa snap channel to edge on ubuntu lts?
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WHY does alsa set my dac to an arbitrary volume after every boot
WTF arch captcha
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Hardware acceleration on a browser I use crashes my graphics driver.
Other than disabling it, what now?
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>>107826152
>scientific applications that have specific needs
Like what?
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>>107826385
Needing to position their windows in very specific ways which just isn't possible on Wayland because window position requests are ignored or not fulfilled properly.
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>>107826405
>window position requests are ignored or not fulfilled properly
Does Wayland lack a native way to do that, or does it just not translate requests for the X11 methods properly?
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>>107826405
xdotool is amazing.
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>>107826417
Both. There are proposals to fix it like the zones protocol though.
>>107826419
There's ydotool for Wayland, but it's not entirely the same. Automation tooling is also somewhat lacking if you specific automation/testing needs, etc.
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>>107826206
Sorry for delay wasn't at my pc was on phone.
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>>107826459
This one is right after I login without having a browser open or anything.
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Is there a way to make a program start at future date and time?
Like once at later time?
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>>107826459
I wanted to compare this to Xfce4. This is about 1GB more or so.
You can probably free more memory by disabling some stuff. For example Fedora 43 has abrt crash reporting services which are not needed unless you want to send crash reports and so on. These have bunch of services like abrt-ccpp, abrt-journal-core, abrt-oops, abrt-xorg, abrt-vmcore.
But you need to know what you're doing.
Now my Xfce4 take 1-1.5 (used) so there is ~ 13Gi available.
Bspwm for me is idling at less than 1gb.
The unfortunate thing about current day linux is that the system still takes that 1+ GB ram initially unless you go for some weird distro.

This is bspwm with librewolf open and screen and couple of terminals.
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>>107826514
Yah i've been looking at a few things to disable/uninstall and I even tried xfce but I just like gnome too much lol so I guess it's worth it I'll have to have a look around.
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>>107826547
I don't think gnome is actually too heavy in this sense. I thought it would be heavier than this.
Depending on your distro you might have some useless services running and taking ram.
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I managed to make XWayland work the way I want. This is pretty comfy.

I need to fix fonts in my Arch chroot but besides that this is exactly what I want. Openbox + LXQt panel works pretty well for a lightweight X11 desktop.
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>>107826564
Probs not it's arch from archinstall it doesn't install much basically bare bones but I am new so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Yah it is fine I usually use htop to see ram usage and sometimes even with everything closed it is above 2g for no reason so I reboot and it's back to idling at like 1.5g I searched it and apparently gnome has memory leaks I'm not sure if that is true or maybe I have background stuff running I don't know I will have to learn more about the system.
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>>107826547
>>107826597
And here's Xfce4 after reboot. I have stripped it down but I have couple of panels and the task bar of course.
Not much difference compared to guh-nome.
I don't think it is wise to switch if you like gnome that much then.
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>>107826603
Yah probably not, I think I'm just being a bit OCD and taking what AI says in search results too seriously. Doesn't seem to be much different from xfce 300mb is not a big deal.
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>>107826271
Well, I did it.
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After installing windowmaker my installation changed the preferred file chooser/portal to gtk despite being on the latest version of gnome; anybody have that happen? I had to
>echo '[preferred] default=gnome >> ~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/portals.conf'.
Never in my 11 years of using linux has that happened to me
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>>107826782
It probably installed the GTK one in addition to the GNOME one that was already there and the GTK one takes priority for some reason.
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>>107826791
>It probably installed the GTK one in addition to the GNOME one that was already there and the GTK one takes priority for some reason.
yeah that was my immediate thought however i don't think that is the case since in the case of arch linux at least the gnome portal depends on the GTK one and I've had gnome installed since day 1.
Really odd behavior anyhow
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>>107826782
On lightdm it doesn't change anything but add a new xsessions .desktop entry.
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I spent all day installing Nobara on my laptop, and it feels great.
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>>107825646
Oh man I haven't seen eazel in a while, sawfish was great
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should i not bother using an unprivileged wheel group user for my personal computer?
im getting tired of typing sudo and su
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>hyprland
>unstable, they regularly break it, the scrolling plugin is shit because of a lack of various motions and features. I also read they are becoming "opiniated" and removed various API used by useful plugins. hyprslidr is unmaintained and probably doesn't work anymore.
>niri
>refuses to use xwayland for some autistic reason, making it useless. Many software won't launch, even with xwayland-satellite installed, or I need to figure out a specific command for each of them to make them work.
>Scroll
>my windows randomly become invisible, unless I maximize them
Why can't the open source world create a WM with a scrolling layout that is not utter shit in some way? I feel like Linux hasn't improve during those last 15 years.
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Can I open different instances of software on separate VPN connections on Fedora?
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>>107826176
They are mostly the same, gnome doesn't really effect gaming, there is nothing else that works the same and would be noticably using less.
If you are that worried just launch steam dorectly with a gamescope session in full screen.
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>>107825646
>be me
>newbie kubuntu user moving over to debian because i want something really stable
>copying all my files to an external ssd
>40gb of music takes about 45 minutes to move using dolphin, also have to type my password every 5 minutes because my admin privileges need to be checked again for some reason i guess
>move on to videos folder
>116gb
>decide to use the terminal because i thought i wouldn't have to keep typing in my password
>sudo cp -rvn Videos/ /ssd file path/
>type in my password once
>literally takes like 7 minutes to copy all 100+ gb
Is this why advanced linux users glaze the terminal so much? wtf happened?
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>>107827754
It has improved.
I had some strange problems when I used Hyprland, when Librewolf was floated I could not click the bookmark page unless it was on the left side of the screen. If it was on the right side it was ignored.
Nice.
That was Arch.
I'm now on Fedora43 and using Xorg like any normal person.
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>>107827955
Sure. Make a different network namespace for each one. vopono can automate this is you have a supported provider.
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>>107828234
IIRC dolphin has a bug where the updating of the progress indicator slows down the copying by a lot. I thought they fixed that
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>>107828234
And now you have to chown or chmod the drive because only root can access those files lol
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Any decent GTK themes anyone would like to recommend?
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>>107826495
Make a systemd service
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Trying to figure out the best way to install Steam on Fedora. On Ubuntu and Mint, it was recommended to get the deb file directly from Steam's download page and install it from there. But now I'm reading that it's recommended to install from my distro's repo. But Fedora's software center only has a flatpak version from Flathub. Can I go ahead and install it the usual way through Steam's website? I tried the download button on Steam's site, and it's asking to download a deb file, but I thought deb files were for Debian-based systems. Would it still work? Isn't Fedora based on Red Hat Linux? I thought Steam would be able to detect my OS and give me the correct download file.
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>>107829219
Enable the rpmfusion repo and install the steam package from it.
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>>107829219
Just use flatpak.
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>>107829219
sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
sudo dnf config-manager setopt fedora-cisco-openh264.enabled=1
sudo dnf install steam

>>107829281
I don't trust the maintainer of the Flatpak version.
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>>107829248
>>107829315
Okay, thanks, this matches the instructions on the Fedora docs site. Going with this method.
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>>107829393
When you use Fedora you should -always- enable the rpmfusion repos on first boot, makes life way easier.
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hi, i am a girl (pic is my proof)
can someone please explain linux to me like im genuinely stupid? like what a distro is, how it works, what its useful for, and stuff like that. like kindergarten level. everytime i try to read websites its full of people using words i dont really understand. im curious about linux but cant find any resources that are simple enough :(( tysmm
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>>107829429
the most important thing to know about linux is that it's a kernel and not a complete operating system
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>>107829117
adw-gtk3
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This sensor plugin for the XFCE panel uses lm_sensors, and I'm confused by what each name refers to for each kernel module. Like, what are in{0..11} measuring under the nct6789 module, and where can I get information for the rest of the modules?
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>>107829429


I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
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>>107829429
If you’ll have sex with me I’ll install it for you and show you how to use it.
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this is a really specific issue, but you know how when you install brave it doesnt use the buttons from KDE Plasma and instead uses whatever its own thing is? is there any way to use the system buttons without using the whole title bar? because that adds way too much bloat to the look of the browser? pic is of the buttons in dolphin and in brave so you can see what i mean
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>>107829736
idgi, you're telling me an uber-autist like richard stallman wrote all of the necessary components that make up an operating system except for a kernel? what's more--a finnish college student swooped in at the right time with his own kernel that he wrote all by himself?
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>>107825699
I am using labwc with sfwbar and it is working well. Some applications don't appear in the tray for sfwbar, though.
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newfag here. got a minipc (thinkcentre) and put a fresh debian install on it. I installed the default desktop environment and am currently using it as a backup PC since my main pc broke.

Is there a way to "dual-purpose" this pc? So that I can use it as a desktop when I need it, but also boot it as a server without a desktop environment if I want. Ideally I want these two modes to have a shared filesystem.
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>>107829817
Hurd
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>>107829811
Firefox will use Breeze buttons natively if it detects running under KDE. Brave just sucks.
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>>107829842
>>107829811
At least on KDE, Firefox uses the titlebar buttons from your selected icon pack.
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>>107829842
>>107829859
thats fair, i do like firefex but i find that i run into random issues, or at least used to that would need me to have a second browser installed. I may check out dev edition again some time
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>>107829834
You can literally just disable the desktop environment while keeping it installed, then you just need to re-enable it when you need it.
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>>107829817
Alright, you got us. Linux is really a CIA MK ULTRA program to turn all the tech literate kids into trooned out schitzos and try to delay the AI takeover. Its been working really well too.
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Im completely new to ubuntu. and also 4chan. im trying to install some school software, wolfram Mathematica on my linux machine. but everytime i try to run it in the terminal it says "md5 not accurate, error in md5 checksums." my current steps are download the .sh file off of wolfram-> chmod to be executable -> execute it. what am i doing wrong???
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>>107828234
This kind of stuff is why I have trust issues with guis, at least when speed or correctness really matters. GUI devs just don't have the cycle saving autism of cli devs, born from the fact that UI is an afterthought and they can focus on algorithms.
The other problem for correctness is that guis often struggle to communicate errors and will just say "failed" while the cli will tell you exactly what's wrong.
I have even less trust for them in linux because the guy making the file transfer dialog probably still uses mv and cp. At least on windows or mac the dev has to suffer with his own creation, although that only puts it halfway there, those guis are still fucked performance-wise half of the time.
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>>107826495
bash script?

sleep 36000
program
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Trying to make my thinkpad FN+Fx keys work in Gentoo using acpid. The shell script itself works, but the event doesn't seem to work. Using acpi_listen I can see that the fn+f1 event is called 'button/mute'. What am I missing here?
#/etc/acpi/events/FnF1-mute
event=button/mute
action=/etc/acpi/actions/FnF1-mute.sh
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>>107830269
hii! idk about ubuntu but i suggest running arch instead
on arch you would type
 yay -S mathematica 

and then it would install as easy as that
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What are some Paintdotnet-like graphics manipulation programs?
I really liked Paintdotnet and the last year and a half I've been really missing it and none of the alternatives I've tried really do it for me.
>GIMP
>seems powerful but doing anything is asinine and feels like even the simplest things require me to do 10x more inputs and every once in a while it just won't let me do something and even after I read the documentation I might still not know why
>Pinta
>Really cool and almost what I want but not only does it lacks certain features or does them imo worse than paintdotnet it's also LAGGY as all hell. I'm on a middle-low end device and it runs slow whenever I zoom in or expand canvas above a certain threshold. For comparison paintdotnet runs like a dream on my 2010 low end laptop even when I'm working on something like 10k x 10k canvas with multiple layers.
>Krita
>Clearly made for drawing rather than image manipulation. Had some success but the situation is somewhat similar to GIMP.
>VMing Windows
>Runs awful.
>Distroshelf
>Have yet to try doing that with Windows and paintdotnet but I get a feeling it will shit the bed all the same.
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>>107826495
at
i mean, at(1). on a unix system.
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windows keeps resetting my fucking folder views for some reason so ive been thinking of switching at long last (to either mint or fedora i think) but i have a couple qualms
- i do music prod stuff and use an audient id4 mkii. they provide no linux drivers so how fucked am i on that front?
- i pirate all my games, multiple per week typically. can i even install them on linux? obviously the installers are executables and idk how linux handles that.
ty frens
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Can I make Firefox use anti-aliasing independent of my system font settings?
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Distroless Linux is coming, are you ready?
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>>107830669
I would probably say Fedora (or Bazzite) is pretty good but do try Mint if only to get a feeling for what you like and dislike about linux.
Can't speak about music production but there have been a few times some hardware like a drawing tablet was not supposed to be compatible especially not right out of the box with linux and yet it worked out for me just fine.
For pirated games I think Lutris or Heroic Launcher can help you. I remember being recommended a video about it on YT (didn't watch it but it should be there).
Though as much as I like linux I would still advise you to either:
a) Try linux on another device
b) Set up a virtual machine with linux of your choice
Dual booting is a meme and overcommitting might leave you burnt.
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>>107830816
>do try Mint
do not try Mint, it's a waste of time.
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>>107830816
thanks, will look into it.
yeah ive heard dualbooting is a meme so im gonna either throw a distro on my old intel macbook pro or just grab a new laptop to mess with.
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why is archcraft so shit? i did one update and yay was completely broken
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>>107830847
If you're gonna use an Arch derivative just use Cachy or Endeavour
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>>107830877
oh i am going back to cachy as soon as the stream im watching is over
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>>107829811
yes. there is a way. in your brave settings you can switch between brave adopting either QT or GTK theme settings
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>>107830711
Not sure, but one trick you can do is configure fontconfig to enable anti-aliasing for a specific font(s). Then just set that font in firefox.
For example, see the answer given here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/396122/disabling-the-anti-aliasing-for-a-specific-font-with-users-fonts-conf
but instead of false you would set it to true
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>>107830711
>>107831047
Or if you just want the pixelated look of disabling anti-aliasing for UI elements/windows/buttons/titlebars, it might be easiest to do it the other way around. Enable anti-aliasing by default (so applications like FF will use it), and then just disable it on a few specific fonts that you use for your UIs
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>>107830711
>>107831064
Also, there are some fonts that just look like that, without you having to disable anti-aliasing at all. Fonts like Terminus or AnonymousPro, or certain CJK fonts like MSPGothic or Mona
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>>107830711
this might not be what you're looking for, but I think the flatpak version of Firefox runs a separate instance of the rendering engine with its own settings. Chromium also just does its own thing completely. in general i've given up on trying to have bitmap fonts as much as i love them, i always hit some wall like that.
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everything should be abel to be done in as few actions as possible and all confirm screens should be removed
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How do I make Chromium apps use the system titlebar instead of a GTK titlebar? Because this looks like crap.
>inb4 just use the actual discord app
I want to be able to run multiple Discord windows at once, or sign into an alt account as needed.
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>>107831249
Is that KDE? Window rules can force server side decorations if the apps don't have that option, but then you'll probably end up with two title bars.
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>>107830566
I can confirm that the script itself gets called form the event by writing something into a file.
#!/bin/sh
echo testing >> /home/xxxx/Documents/test
wpctl set-mute @DEFAULT_SINK@ toggle

Running the above wpctl command or the shell script itself in a terminal works, so why does only the echo part work when I press the fn+f1 key and the event tries to use the script?
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>>107831410
>so why does only the echo part work when I press the fn+f1 key and the event tries to use the script?
Missing PATH or environment variables not set. Try setting XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and PULSE_SERVER, etc.
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>>107831448
>>107831410
You could confirm that by doing something like this by the way:
wpctl set-mute @DEFAULT_SINK@ toggle > /home/xxxx/Documents/test 2>&1


If it failed an error should be logged
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>>107831448
Running echo $PULSE_SERVER just returns a blank line so that one seems to be missing. XDG_RUNETIME_DIR exists. Using pipewire and wireplumber but never saw any mentions of the PULSE_SERVER env variable being needed in the gentoo wiki. I will try to set it up.
>>107831457
Doesn't write anything into the file
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Best backup software ?
Borg or Rsnapshot ?
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>>107831544
>Doesn't write anything into the file
Then try something like:
strace -fF wpctl set-mute @DEFAULT_SINK@ toggle > /home/xxxx/Documents/test 2>&1

You may have to install strace first but that will write a lot although the problem may not be obvious.

I think one reason this might happen is because acpid runs as root and there might be an authorisation check that only allows your user to connect to the socket. You may have to su or sudo to your user.
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>>107831598
zfs snapshot
zfs send / receive
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>>107831544
>>107831601
Also log the entire environment:

>In your shell
export -p > /tmp/a


Then in your script:
export -p /tmp/b


Then diff the two to see if there's any relevant differences.
diff -Naur /tmp/a /tmp/b
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>>107831614
Second one should be:
export -p > /tmp/b
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>>107831249
I am so unbelievably sick of this shit.
>create Discord webapp with Brave's webapp creator (ie it adds
--app-id={RANDOMBULLSHIT}
to the exec line of a .desktop shortcut)
>it uses the retarded GTK titlebar
>I create my own .desktop file instead using
--app=https://discord.com/app
in the exec line
>now it uses the system titlebar, but the webapp .desktop and the actual Brave instance it launches are two separate applications on my taskbar
How do I make this shit fucking work? I just want to use the system titlebar while being able to have the same window class or whatever the fuck on the child process.
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been using Sway for a few months now, I like it but I'm wondering if there's something better out there in terms of usability?
main thing I like about sway is stability so I'm kinda avoiding hyprland because last time I tried it it kept locking up randomly (this is using the Intel driver which I thought was super stable or whatever)
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>>107831743
Sounds like you wanna move to Hyprland
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>>107831749
I'm interested in hearing if the other wayland tiling managers are decent enough to replace sway, like qtile or niri
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>>107831735
>this looks like crap
Why do you care? You're never gonna get things to look exactly how you want them to, so just stop caring and stick to the defaults. If it's functional, then it should be good enough.
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>>107831735
Oh fuckin hallelujah I figured it out.
>launch the url version
>right-click titlebar of the url version
>More Actions > Configure Special Window Settings
>Look at what Window class (application) reads; in this case
brave brave-discord.com__app-Default

>go back to my .desktop and add
StartupWMClass=brave-discord.com__app-Default

Suck my dick Chromium, I AM YOUR MASTER.
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>>107831762
>Why do you care?
Eat my shit ebassi
>You're never gonna get things to look exactly how you want them to
Except I just did, so you can suck my cock.
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>>107831772
>Except I just did
Really? I thought you were crying about how it still doesn't work
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>>107831830
>>107831767
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>>107830669
>multiple per week
>installers are executables
Just buy a PS5 and stay away from something you don't understand. Maybe read a book once in a while.
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Fedora KDE Plasma. I had my monitor set up to 4k but I couldn't see a lot of icons and text by default was too small or some apps even when I scaled it up(like Wine which didn't scale up). I dropped it to 2k and scaled it up by 25%. That helped but icons are still small(like in Pinta). What can I do to scale icons across the board other than lowering to 1k?
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>>107830669
pirating games on linux is as easy as it is on windows with compatibilty overlays like wine. there is a few extra steps but it just werks most of the time.
>pirate game
>run installer through wine
>make a wine prefix (virtual windows filesystem) for the game separate from your default wine dir
>use something like lutris to run the game once its installed
>for a better experience optionally install DXVK (dll files that goes in your wine dir) that translates dx8-11 to vulkan
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>>107832014
Fractional scaling and changing icon settings?
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>>107832050
This doesn't change the icon sizes in a gui. Icon settings in what context are you referring to?
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>>107825739
It's possible XFCE's built-in compositor is doing something for you that BSPWM doesn't by itself. IDK.
>>107826176
Gnome doesn't consume that much RAM try disabling PackageKit, Cups and other shit like that.
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>>107832014
Plasma has separate icon settings to increase their size regardless of scaling, I think you can right click on the desktop to get there.
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would installing fedora on an m4 mac in a virtual machine via UTM be a good idea to fuck around with linux for the first time? cant currently install linux directly on my pc or my old mac as theyre full of music production project files and i dont feel like reinstalling them all later
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>>107832014
edit your .desktop file for the app,
for instance this to scale down the taskmanager.
Exec=env GDK_DPI_SCALE=0.8 xfce4-taskmanager

if that doesn't work, maybe try
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1.5
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>>107832093
Are you referring to this? I increased it and it didn't change the gui icon sizes.
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>>107832044
It's even easier if you download pre-installs of games. With those it's literally just a case of turning the folder with the unarchived files into a prefix with umu-launcher or something and running the .exe with proton-ge-custom.
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>>107831735
>now it uses the system titlebar, but the webapp .desktop and the actual Brave instance it launches are two separate applications on my taskbar
What's wrong with this, honestly? I like that behavior, helps to segmentate tasks as I often want. I DO gonna tweak those long as fuck IDs once I get into it though.
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>>107832108
no.
apple silicon and linux are not a good combo right now.
and if you're planning on running linux on pc, you should start with that.

either get a usb stick with a live image so you don't have to touch anything else, or just get the cheapest sata ssd you can get and install linux on there.
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>>107830618
There's a free version of this editor
https://alivecolors.com/en/tutorial/howwork/install-linux.php
I never used it but it might be work. I get by using GIMP and Photopea, but isn't the best. Maybe Canvas will free everyone once they make Affinity free and Web based (WASM isn't perfect but much better than nothing).
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>>107832113
This didn't work.
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>>107832114
Oh I thought you were talking about DESKTOP icons' size. For applications, there's a setting to force Plasma to scale all "legacy" apps that don't respect system scaling (I think is on the same screen you set the scaling %).
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I'm 99% sure the answer is no, but is there a way to detect if a webp file is lossless if I don't have the original sources? I got handed over a random lot of 2k pictures, some are just compressed photos to deploy in a gallery/CMS, others are muddled JayPeeGees edits/draf5s from some """marketing""" bitch that lazily complied using an online converter to please the tech """leaders""".
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>>107832201
Thank you so much!
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>>107832229
webp is compressed with vpx-vp8 or vpx-vp9 so no, it's always lossy
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>>107832243
There's a lossless mode which preserves the original details with no added compression but you can't tell if it wasn't losslessly compressed or not.
>>107832229
You can probably guess based on the size of the file but that's no guarantee.
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>>107832233
It's a Wayland limitation, they can't directly tell if an X11 app respects fractional scaling properly or not (vast majority of them didn't at the time). XWayland sort of forces them to comply but sometimes they blur out a little. AFAIK this setting DOES NOT overwrite a custom scaling setting out by the user/app configuration, if an app looks like shit you can individually set its scaling. But how yo do that is up to the miraculous fragmentation of Linux. Is slightly different on every version of GTK/Qt, or even If the engine/app themselves bothered to tackle this directly like Chromium/Electron (you pass them over a flag and they respect it). At least this works with Ugoogled Chromium and Slack. Arch Wiki has a couple of articles about this somewhere.
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>>107832266
>>107832229
Although, if you just want to know "Is this a lossless webp" then webpinfo will tell you that. For example:
RIFF HEADER:
File size: 694510
Chunk VP8L at offset 12, length 694498
Width: 1920
Height: 1080
Alpha: 0
Animation: 0
Format: Lossless (2)
No error detected.
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>>107832266
>>107832243
>>107832275
Well shit, I'll have to blur out the hell of anything that looks ugly, I hate itoddlers on relevant roles so much.
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I am considering to make the jump to having a single super duper ultrawide monitor (32:9) as a life-long multi-monitor user. I am already anticipating the annoyance of having ugly black bars whenever I fullscreen a video/movie or unsupported game.
I already tried using Gamescope and XRandR to try to achieve a simulated 16:9 fullscreen, but I am not getting the results I want.
Does anyone have any experience with this autism?
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>>107832402
Can Mpv not do what you want? I'd be very surprised if it couldn't. You don't need Gamescope for that.
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>>107832511
Specifically for videos at least. For games I think you'll still need gamescope to deal with that which should work.
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>>107832402
Don't do that... Ultrawide was always a problem in Windows even and two separate screens are better for work because they are separate entities.
Always hated that I needed special patches for games. And if there wasn't any those black bars were surprisingly jarring. But you do you of course.
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Stupid question but is there any way to change the look and feel of KDE plasma? I'm thinking about things like the close/maximize/minimize buttons for example, having different symbols instead of v ^ X
and other such details. I'm not really familiar with customization of these full fledged DEs
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>>107832581
Google "kde plasma themes"
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>>107829429
>dick
>cuts
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>>107825646
That pic is taken in Schiltach likely in the 90s
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So Nvidia is a no go on Linux? I need to buy AMD graphics?
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>>107832779
It'll work, just not as well as with proprietary drivers.
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>>107832779
depends, been running nvidia(3060) on arch hyprland without issues. games, no clue. steam flatpak loads, and fez works fwiw.
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anyone here use gdb frontends (or other debuggers)? which is your flavor?
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>>107832564
So you've had super ultrawide before? Did you change back to multi-monitor eventually?
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>>107833016
Yeah but I've used two screens at work for 2 decades now maybe that is a factor too.
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fucking flatpak
I've struggling with moonlight giving me some weird issues without even giving any real error output.
I had to build from source for it to get it to work.
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is using an aur helper a bad idea?
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>>107833072
no idea, i liked paru
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>>107833031
I'm also planning to make the jump to super ultrawide for work actually. For the first time in my life I am going to invest in aesthetics and one single monitor fits that, I guess.
I am using my work laptop on my OS using a special KVM, so my mental gymnastics are that a super ultrawide (32:9) is essentially two standard monitors (16:9 x 2); I can have full view of my work computer while having more than enough real estate for whatever else. Then when I'm not using it for work, I can have a full 16:9 application running while having "two halves of a screen" on the sides for other stuff, something you can't really achieve with regular ultrawide (21:9).
While you were using super ultrawide, were you using a window tiling manager, Tiling Shell (what I use currently) or FancyZones? Was your experience with super ultrawide that annoying?
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>>107833131
I work in graphics, tiling doesn't make any sense to me.
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>>107833072
yes
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I've been lurking on these threads for years and never made the move to Linux.
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>>107833205
mods, ban this poster now!
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>>107830877
Derivate = fork? Endeavour isn't even derivate as it uses Arch's own repos. idk about Cachy though.
>>107829834
Are you saying it automatically logs you in the desktop session? Disable that and no desktop session gets started on boot.
>I want these two modes
>modes
Ha! A server system is no different from a desktop system, it's arr same Linux.
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>>107833205
now is as good a time as ever
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>>107833205
Linux is okay when you achieve peace and your system requires no more tweaking.
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>>107833230
Apple's look like a gladiator arena, with a skull shaped center, a lake representing a portal.

it is like they are in fight with humans while aliens are opening portals to try to save those humans that are better than the whole arena.

it is like the whole arena are mexicans, the skull is the last man alive the lake are the aliens and the robots will never exist.
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so because python got updated and and all the python stuff too
does that mean that i have to rebuild all the aur packages that depend on python stuff?
also looks like python-vdf got moved from the aur to the extra repo
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>>107833434
Maybe. I had to reinstall anki-bin
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>Failed to configure DHCPv6 client: No such file or directory
Any help? Gentoo with systemd does this every time on new installs but I never remember what fixed it exactly.
>>107833205
Even when I was a Windows user I had a Linux box for partitioning (external) drives and for doing basic network diagnostics. Basically any "low level" computer stuff is extremely troublesome on Windows, how do you guys cope?
>>107833390
ebin
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>>107833670
I don't cope I just suffer. My experience on windows literally worse every day. But I'm also low IQ and basically uses my PC to play games so I put up with it out of laziness
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Why are calculators so fucking bad on Linux, seriously?
>can't press Ctrl+C to copy Ans into the clipboard
>can't press enter to repeat the last operation
>a simple fucking calculator needs to use more than 4MiB of RAM, for some reason
I bet the only good calculator on Linux is the port of the fucking Windows calculator, but it's only available via a Snap, so fuck that noise.

Is there an honest to God decent calculator app on Linux?
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>>107834007
qalculate
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>>107834024
Qalculate is a joke.
>Ctrl+C copies the expression instead of the answer
>Cannot repeat the last operation by pressing enter again
>The window is SO fucking BIG
At this point I'll have to run the Windows XP calculator through Wine.
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>>107834055
shrug, I only use cli version qalc
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>>107834007
>calculator
shiggydiggy
just load up a repl for the language of your choice. If you have nothing installed python is always there. you don't need a fucking ui with numbers arranged on it, you have a keyboard anon.
A dedicated program might be interesting for fluent unit handling but none of the gui calculators do this anyway.
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>>107834081
I'm not using a fucking terminal as a calculator.
>you don't need a fucking ui with numbers arranged on it
Yes I do because I'm not a god damn fucking tranny. I just want a petite window that fucking works.
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Assuming a btrfs partition is mounted on /mnt, which is more preferred for deleting a btrfs subvolume:
>sudo btrfs subvolume delete /mnt/@snapshot1
>sudo rm -rf /mnt/@snapshot1
Is there any difference?
>>
My motherboard uses a Nuvoton IC that isn't supported by any kernel modules, so I don't know what each sensor is measuring whenever I type
sensors
into the CL. Fortunately, I can create my own custom configuration file to help alleviate this issue. People have been recommending to take a look at the hardware sensors in the BIOS and attempt to match them up with the output of the above command, but is there anything more that I can do to be as accurate as possible? For reference, I found no relevant documentation for the motherboard nor did I find a datasheet online from Nuvoton. The only other source that I have to cross-check my findings in the BIOS is a custom configuration for another board in the same product line as mine that uses the same Nuvoton IC. The chip's name is prefixed by 'nct6798'.
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>>107834101
i would assume the specialized command to be faster
rm -rf has to go through every file, btrfs might do something smarter
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Look at how big it is. LOOK AT HOW FUCKING BIG IT IS. Why can't FOSScunts figure out basic UX after 30 years? I don't need a big fucking window. I just want a small window that LETS ME COPY THE FUCKING ANSWER INTO THE CLIPBOARD.
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>>107834095
Do you also type by using a mouse to press letters on an on screen keyboard? The only difference from typing 6*(1+4) on a terminal or on a gui ""calculator"" is that its easier to edit and see the whole expression on the former. Meanwhile if you need anything advanced like CDF of normal distribution then the lang can do it and shitty calc probably can't.
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>>107834140
I'm not larping as a fucking Matrix hackerman, I don't give a shit about ugly black screens. Just give me something that looks nice. Microsoft figured this out in the 20th century ffs
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>>107834135
Why not use a physical calculator?
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>>107834157
Does a physical calculator let me copy to and paste from my computer's clipboard?
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>>107834135
kcalc can copy the result to clipboard
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>>107834161
Do it manually
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>>107834164
There does not seem to be a "Copy result" shortcut listed in the configurable keyboard shortcuts of Kcalc.
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The GNOME calculator is functionally fine but the window is the most massive one yet, and it's GTK only so it looks like shit on Plasma and uses almost 300MiB of RAM. How hard can it be for FOSScunts to write a basic calculator app? I'm gonna have to do this shit myself to show these retards what a fucking calculator is supposed to be.
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>>107826332

maybe its iGPU and You can increase or dcrease allocated memory
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>>107828234

to be honest situation on kubuntu terminal is horrible no consistency in copied files i mean skipped files gui file manager is ok
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>>107834161

why not use microsoft calculator website
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>>107834329
I've been bitching about how bloated these calculators are, so the last thing I need is a webapp.
>>
Calculator apps are the single strongest evidence for baby duck syndrome that exists. The chrome search bar alone mogs it. Imagine creating a whole dedicated app with a UI and getting beaten by a simple text box.
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>>107825646
What happened to Distrowatch? The sidebar on the right with distros is no longer there??
>>
>>107834243
Is galculator the same as gnome calculator? I'm confused about this.
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>>107834007
Speedcrunch works for me.
>>
>linux 2025
>we still dont have a desktop that works without x11/wayland brokeness and fragmentation
>we still dont have good theming on the desktop that is just a simple fucking black theme like windows 10 has
>we still dont have a functioning software manager that doesnt give errors and just is one click
>we still dont have a functioning beginner distro that doesnt have just a simple windows 10 black theme with an appstore

Linux is a joke
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>>107834770
>black theme
lol zoomer
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>>107834770
we get it. you hate user freedom and love windows 10, no need to evangelize your jeet OS here
>>
I HATE DESKTOP ENVIRONMENTS
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>>107830599
hello!! thanks for replying but idk if im ready to switch to arch lol. i just got a new laptop and im trying out ubuntu. this mathematica thing is freaking me out though. some forum online said that the link provided by the wolfram website is just broken
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>>107834796
>>107834799
>using a terminal and fixing your computer daily with 50 commands is le good!
>app store and easy installer bad!

So, is this the year of the linooox desktop?
>>
>https://fedoraproject.org/
>hover Get Fedora
>literally 30 different versions
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>>107834863
It's actually handy but confusing for new cummer.
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>>107834845
>>using a terminal and fixing your computer daily with 50 commands is le good!
my arch install is 3 years old and nothing ever broke. the only reason for thinking like this is waytroons running unstable software. just use x11 + xfce and nothing will ever bother you
>>app store and easy installer bad!
sudo pacman -S <package>

uh bluh so hard ;~;
i hope linux stay niche to keep casuals like you out of it
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>>107834398
I have a little grey icon where the top of it should be so it's probably a bug. Something in the back-end for it probably broke, it was working yesterday.
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>>107834863
they should just put the everything iso front and center. had to click to misc section for it.
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>>107834845
I don't use a terminal. I use Plasma Discover with a white theme.
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>>107834845
Some normgroid protection is necessary
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>>107834007
Kcalc works fine



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