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Why can't you find any good MP3 players today? I hate having to use my phone (which doesn't even have an audio jack) to listen to music.
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If mp3 is so good why didn't they mp2
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>>107828651
>which doesn't even have an audio jack
why did you do that to yourself?
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>>107828651
Are there any good PMPs with Opus support?
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>>107828651
>Why can't you find any good MP3 players today?
This category is died out. You either can buy some small phone with a headphone jack or a thick phone that sells as a player. Or some chink nonsense.
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>>107828959
>>107810442
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Hiby r4 is a good digital audio player but there are so many good digital audio players these days
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>>107828651
The only DAPs they make now cost $5k with old phone/radio parts and Android 4.0 (with no updates). Just use your phone, it'll be infinitely faster.
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>>107828669
i'll audio jack you in a minute
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>>107828998
So how is it different from a phone without a simcard?
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>>107829157
Presumably, they have dedicated audio processing hardware.
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If a DAP weigh more than 50g it's trash, might as well use a phone
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I've been eyeing this chink android music player for a while now..
I'm just looking for a device to play my music, and not having to drain the battery of my phone while doing it.. I use my phone to play music like 6-8h/day
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>>107828651
Mod an iPod.
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>>107828651
ipod classic 5th gen
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>>107828651
Bluetooth headphone lasts months on a single charge today. And they're wirelessly charged so when you sleep or take off the headphone, it charges wirelessly and easily.

I dont understand the issue
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>>107828651
>mp3 player
anon, they're called digital audio players (DAPs) now
get any of the chink ones recommended in >>>/g/iemg/
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>>107828651
There's some from companies like Fiio.
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>>107828651
This chinkthing, doubles as desktop DAC
>>107828959
This chinkthing , with rockbox
>>107830667
Overpriced chinkshit
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>>107829616
If you buy this, you're literally just buying another phone. The touchscreen and Google Play services and all the bloat that comes along with modern Android is going to destroy the battery life as opposed to if you got something like this which I got just a few days ago. It was a really good purchase.
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I stopped understanding music players once they got all thick and heavy. You want a separate device just to listen to music, and you end up with something the size of a power bank?
>>107829568
Hooray, 5 dollar dongle included
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there is few: hiby r1, snowsky echo mini, xduoo x2s, shanling m0pro, few other, and thats players without android, with android there is much more but ad someone said, its just phone without sim card and with good onboard audio
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>>107828651
>Why can't you
Me? Actually i'm moreso disappointed in the software.
>>107828658
(MP1 and MP2 exist)
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I just use my old Creative Zen Mozaic. No better piece of hardware has been invented since.
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I've never seen anyone IRL with an mp3 player that wasnt a doc martin wearing tranny
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>>107828651
>Why can't you find any good MP3 players today? I
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>>107828651
Because you are looking for an "mp3 player."
Simple as.
https://electronics.sony.com/audio/walkman-digital-recorders/audio-digital-voice-recorders/p/icdux570blk
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>>107828651
>father still uses my old creative zen
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>>107828983
The worst part is it died out before we ever got a good one
>best mp3 players from the golden age have no RAM and no expandable storage and can't handle libraries with more than 10k songs
>modern chink nonsense has expandable storage but no RAM and still can't handle more than 10k songs
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>>107830717
Absolute fucking garbage, I got one of those and loaded an average flac file from my library and it couldn't even play it without stuttering. I'm not going to go re-encode all my shit to a lower bitrate because this chinkslop is powered by a dried potato skin.
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>>107831717
This is actually a viable choice. I've looked for a mp3 player that has no fucking touch screen and a usable straight forward interface for a while then realized that the sony voice recorder that has been sitting in my drawer for years does the job perfectly.
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why do you hate using your phone? how is it any different from a dedicated mp3 player?
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>>107832696
Zoomers have forgotten that phones are corporate spy devices that illegally collect private information on you in order to try to sell you products.
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>>107832696
Its easier to change songs/volume with a dedicated MP3 players
A phone is too heavy and not as easy to carry around on your jacket pocket or whatever
I don't want to have to deal with multitasking while actually using my phone if I want to listen to music
Unnecessary battery drain on the phone for no reason
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>>107832703
only android does that
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>>107831588
>>107832696
>>107829157
a phone is not a good Mp3 player. Especially not now since they don't have headphone jacks.
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>>107831717
>still absolutely FUCKhuge
Every day I lament the loss of the SansaClip. Technology stopped advancing and started regressing.
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>>107832717
>Its easier to change songs/volume with a dedicated MP3 players
last time i checked my phone had both easy to use volume buttons AND the option to use the remote control
>A phone is too heavy and not as easy to carry around on your jacket pocket or whatever
what? are you only referring to the sansa clip with like 4 gb of storage or something? ipods used to weigh fuck heavy because of the physical hard drive
modern phones are really only heavy because theyre made out of glass and metal
>I don't want to have to deal with multitasking while actually using my phone if I want to listen to music
what the fuck??? are you sick in the head? putting on some music while youre waiting on the train is MULTITASKING now? how autistic are you exactly?
>Unnecessary battery drain on the phone for no reason
local music playback uses barely any energy, the only reason why it can seem like a hog is because of streaming
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>>107832810
Why is every reply to your post disengious? Are you arguing for the sake of argue?
Here's a (you)
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>>107832830
my reply is absolutely sincere, im just dealing with a retard with his head stuck up his arse
phones are absolutely the epitome of mp3 players, the damn thing can use any streaming service you like and even play LOSSLESS media
best part? YOU ALREADY OWN IT!

this idiot is just looking for another reason to consume more unnecessary shit
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>>107832871
>the damn thing can use any streaming service you like
Utterly mindbroken, you are already a slave.
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>>107832900
holy shit you are retarded
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>>107828651
>my phone doesn't even have an audio jack
LITERALLY
KILL
YOURSELF
>W-w-what happened??? UwU
You literally gave money to a company that manufactured a literally worse product than the previous generation.
Money is literally the most important form of reward to a company in exchange for their effort.
You literally rewarded a corporation for making a shit product.
Fuck you.
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>>107828651
Ages ago I worked with a guy who bought that player, he loved it.
One day he forgot it's in his pocket and went swimming in the ocean. RIP player, it hasn't turned on after that.
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>>107832785
My Clip died on Christmas day last year, that was the saddest Christmas I've ever had.
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>>107831039
I used a OS stripped down/debloated Samsung captivate as a dedicated music player and it would last a week on a charge. It has the last iteration of the wolf DAC audio chip used in a phone, IIRC. It's much more difficult to achieve that with newer android.
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>>107832500
Skill issue, FLAC plays fine
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>>107833003
I didn't ask what you use.
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>>107833003
It's still fucking android.
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>>107828651
iPod mini and classic are my choice
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>>107828651
a phone with an audio jack can be a good mp3 player
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>>107832785
For what it is, it's pretty small. The slightly larger ones with replaceable mic caps wouldn't quite fit in the tiny pocket on right of my jeans. It's roughly the size of an ipod.
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>>107832785
>>107831717
I'd also like to add that these things have a speaker, microphones, and aux in and out. You can record from line in.
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>>107832810
God, it's funny seeing zoomers sperg out about topics they have no understanding of.

Anyway, for me, it's the Sony network walkman line, specifically just before they started turning them all into android abominations. 50 hours of battery life in a sub 50g device, what's not to love?
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>>107828651
I still use my Sansa Clip+ with Rockbox.
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>>107828651
innioasis y1 is pretty popular at the moment only works with some old rockbox fork though. the best non ipod rockboxables players are AIGO EROS Q / AIGO EROS K / IRULU Surfans F20 / AGPTek H3 / HIFI WALKER H2 these all use the same hardware but are made by different manufactures theyre pretty cheap. also you could just get an ipod classic and mod it, i have several ipods i use an ipod video as my main device use it very often its great and lasts like 40 hours or something with my expanded chink battery
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>>107830717
its the eigo eros q
>>107832500
>I got one of those and loaded an average flac
did you install rockbox?
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>>107835768
god i fucking wish, i could be fucking 18 year old zoomer sluts



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