Would you live inside Wine Desktop? Would it be insane to turn Wine into a DE for Linux like Windows 3.1 originally was for DOS? I would use the shit out of this.
>turn Wine into a DE You could do this since forever, wine has a desktop. nobody does because it's retarded
>>107829507wine only takes dos inputs so if i were to use wine as my desktop, then i can't use the terminal like a linux one. i would use freedos if i wanted to live like that
ReactOS exists already.
>>107829636and it doesn't work
>>107829636This is literally ReactOS but running on Linux kernel.
>>107829507I believe you mean Windows
>>107829507>windows with an inferior kernel and missing apislol lmao even
>>107829517I remember an Anon here who uses TinyCoreLinux and just booted straight into a Wine session
Most software still doesn't work on wine though
Let's be real, wine is just glorified emulator for windows games, it's dogshit for programs, it still struggles to run chromimum and webkit libraries
>>107830130it's more like a hardcore wrapper / translator then emulator
>>107830136it's more like calling FreeDOS a "DOS Emulator" it's just a re-implementation of Windows libraries, instead of wiring up the Windows functions in the trampoline it calls the Wine functions instead
>>107830130>let's be realWhy you stupid niggers can't comprehend a simple rule - read before saying shit. WINE is not an emulator, it's a compatibility layer. Fuck, the name itself is acronym to "Wine is Not an Emulator". But yes, of course, let's keep your "let's be real" delusional vision of world, retard
>>107831060You will never be windows/woman/woman+windows
>>107829507>windows, but freetard edition and half of all your apps just doesn't werkjust run windows 7 + vxkex
>>107831060sorry buddy but it emulates os api callsthats an emulator
>>107829507NoAll Wine stuff like explorer, filepicker etc. are barebones. Statement "muh win32 is only stable abi" doesn't work on Wine since Wine doesn't fully implement all Win32 api, only some parts that are necessary for some software (primarily games because nobody needs anything else from shitty windows software). You can't.
>>107829507I like this idea, although I'd still want to use some of the more unusual window managers of BSD & Linux (FVWM with sideways titlebars, or the multiple tabbed windows in Fluxbox)>>107831060Nope. I guess I have to paste the following, again...Time to set this straight with a few historic facts.One: the Linux community, and also open source, originally was formed from anti-corporate anti-government anti-authoritarian people. This resulted in a general contrariness in all matters. For example, GNU means "GNU's not Unix." Notice the "not"? Contrarian.Two: many programmers and would-be programmers from the 80s and 90s liked to feel clever, whether they actually were or not. So, to say something is *not* when it *is* made them giggle and curl up in the throes of pleasure at thinking that they were being sooooo clever. "Hehe he, 'not' when it 'is,' i'm so clever, hee hee." For example, an early mp3 encoder was called LAME which is an acronym for "Lame Ain't an Mp3 Encoder" "Oh, so clever, to re-use the GNU is not meme, oh hee hee. And I used 'aint,' I'm so edgy. I'm so clever"Three: So when someone actually came up with a Windows emulator, so that Windows programs could be run in Linux (and BSD too, now, iirc) they "had" to name it something oh-so-clever. Hence the Windows emulator came to be called "WINE" (Wine Is Not an Emulator." "Hee hee, I'm so clever, and I'm sticking it to the man. Hee hee. Mom, I posted it again!"So of course Wine is an emulator. Anyone with more than two brain cells can see that.
Depends if this becomes good in the future.Because I do like the idea of a community version of Windows/Win32. imagine something equivalent to Windows 10 LTSC Userland without UWP I am talking about functionality wise, would be great when 10 LTSC runs ouf of support in 2032.
>>107829507> Would you live inside Wine Desktop?Just use Plasma.Wine is a compatibility layer, using it as a desktop is going to be ass.
>>107829507If this gets to be in a usable state then I WILL use it.
>>107835664What if I hate UNIX?
>>107835864You don't even know what it is so you can't truly hate it.
>>107829507it's retarded. pretending like an old windows DE is better than a modern DE is stupid, espeically given the customization available to linux users. much better to use WINE as intended. in ideal world you could just download .exe files and WINE would automatically launch them in a container
>>107835890Its a mainframe operating system developed in the 60s that's been shoehorned into home computing for most of its history. I actually wouldn't mind it (or things copying it) got rid of those mainframe centric features like the HFS or repositories (flatpack is not universally adopted so it may as well not exist, and even then still isn't a proper replacement for Windows's portable binary centric system)
>>107836003you can't customize away the linux file structure, which is a make or break issue for me.
>>107829507Sounds fucking cursed
>>107836071No one shoe-horned it. Apple is the only company that has brought it into the consumer market, and that was because it was the cheapest and most cost effective solution for them.>flatpakJust use appimages. EXEs on Windows are usually just compressed folders with all the data in them. Same thing MacOS does too.
>>107836161>EXEs on Windows are usually just compressed folders with all the data in them.Can I set my default text editor, media player, web broswer, and any other default program using a right click menu without ever properly installing the program or accessing the command line or settings menu? Are all programs I could ever want available as pre compiled app images? Will I be able to use that same app image 20 years from now without needing to hunt down 20 year old dependencies?
>>107836191>Can I set my default text editor, media player, web broswer, and any other default program using a right click menu without ever properly installing the program or accessing the command line or settings menu?On Linux? If you use KDE yes. Are all programs I could ever want available as pre compiled app images?Yes, unless you only want Windows programs, in which case no you will never run another OS even after Windows inevitably dies. >Will I be able to use that same app image 20 years from now without needing to hunt down 20 year old dependencies?That's the entire point of app images, yes. It's self contained, exactly like an exe is on Windows.
>>107836191i don't know about automatic right click menus but you can chuck in a .desktop file pointing to your appimage in ~/.local/share/applications and assign a file type to it in ~/.config/mimeapps.list
>>107836208good, now all I need is a way to get rid of the HFS and Linux will be usable.
