>doesn't sell
i have onelike 6 years old nowstill going hard :)
>>107830069cousin collusion
>fucked in the premium market by nvidia>fucked in the budget market by intel arcTbh they kinda deserve it for copying nvidia's pricing strategy and shaving $50-100. My hope is that this lights a fire under radeon's ass and gets them to actually compete price-wise.
>>107830160>>fucked in the premium market by nvidia>>fucked in the budget market by intel arcPretty much this.
I thought you guys like AMD.
>>107830261I do. 9800X3D + 4090.
>>107830261The gpus are ok but the cpus are kind of bad. not that intel is any better
>>107830261I liked them when they were the underdog but now that intel is going belly up they're going full retard on am5 pricing and it's kind of annoying. They also flat-out refuse to make any aggressive moves with nvidia for some reason, I'm inclined to believe that they have a gentlemen's agreement with them.
>>107830261The cpus are okay but the gpus are kind of bad. not that intel is any better
can anyone explain why amd 9070xtx is only a 5070 equivalent? Where is their 5090 equivalent.
>>107830499I think AMD decided to skip the high-end this generation and focus on the mid-range.
>>107830069idk, I boughted a 9060, works well
>>107830160>>107830251I don’t think much people are buying arc. The drivers don’t work well with anything below dx12
>>107830289Compared to the history of AMD and Intel, AMD was an underdog for a miniscule amount of time.
>>107830069I bought the 9070xt. Replacing a 4070.
>>107830069Don't worry, they're going all in on AI now - that will change everything.
>>107830069It sells, but not in the numbers that Nvidia pulls for over 15 years. The start of trouble was misstep of R600 a.k.a Radeon 2900XT, but really didn't start until GCN failed to hold back Kepler and quick follow-up of Maxwell. ATI/AMD has been bleeding away the crumbles. Discrete cards are going back to their prosumer/professional roots. AMD has no reason to make discrete stuff anymore. They are happy with semi-integrated and iGPU solutions.Intel is doing the same thing as their discrete experiment is a fiscal failure. Nvidia will continue to dominate the dwindling discrete GPU market.
>>107832644just run anything below dx12 with dxvk
>>107830759High-end GPU market has always been a red herring. The real money has been made on the lower markets. iGPUs simply made mid-range and lesser SKUs redundant for most use cases. That's why Nvidia has been trying to exit out of discrete market to be no longer their bread and butter for decades. They saw what happened to 3Dfx. Nvidia is now a HPC company that made full circle from their ex-SGI origins..
>>107832840What about openGL games?
I want to try a amd gpu sometime soon. I went amd cpu and a nivida gpu. Its good. But want to try out a full amd build. Everything is over priced but for some pc parts though now.
I have only ever bought AMD GPUs. AMD's pricing is more reasonable, especially if you're buying a mid range/slightly above mid range card, which is all I've ever wanted.
>>107832832Intels new igpu is beating the rx 6600https://www.techpowerup.com/345053/intel-core-ultra-x9-388h-panther-lake-igpu-doubles-amd-strix-point-performance-in-cyberpunk-2077
>>107833078>Intels new igpu is beating the rx 6600>look inside>1 more fps at sub 30fpsyou should work in marketing
>>107833422An igpu beating a 3 year old mid range GPU is impressive. It’s also twice as fast as AMDs 890m
>>107833863it's a rounding error in a test run where both cards run poorly>It’s also twice as fast as AMDs 890mthat's still not a rx 6600
>>107832938I went full AMD for linux a couple years ago, honestly haven't noticed a problem and it was cheaper for maybe 5% less performance at the top end.>>107833863Integrated is going to be the go-ahead factor because of size and heat dissipation. While CPUs generally last longer than GPU I look back at everything I've built and I've upgraded the GPU maybe once or twice in a PC's life cycle anyway.
>>107833880Cope
>>107832868>High-end GPU market has always been a red herring. The real money has been made on the lower markets.So? Still no good reason not to btfo shitvidia. Just fucking do it. Do to Nvidia with Radeon what Ryzen did to Intel. I want to run a whole red computer.
>>107834057I accept your concession
>>107834061It is not going to happen. The high-end GPU gayming market is dying and old and busted. None of that is sexy to investors. /v/tards suffer massively from unwarranted self-importance.
>>107834211It's at least good for marketing. Pretty much every stupid meme I've ever seen with a GPU in it for the last decade has had a 1080ti, 2080ti, 3090, 4090 or 5090
>>107830069tried 4K -> 720x400 today only gpu temp rose loonix is getting good
>>107834061Nvidia has the rtx 5050 and amd has no answer to thatThe best budget GPU is the arc b580
>>107834619>The best budget GPU is the arc b580Which I have ask me anything.>It sucksYes I know.
>>107834632Do you say it sucks because you play old games
>>107834647>Do you say it sucks because you play old gamesNo, graphical glitches everywhere.and these are screenshotable so it's not really a hardware malfunction. and on Linux it's much worse as if you use a browser (firefox based) it hangs your graphics drive also known as xe, so disable hardware acceleration.I am not a heavy PC gamer, I bought it for other stuff.It also happens the most is on electron apps(both OSes), GTK apps and the windows taskbar (rare). Surprisingly everything else like QT or other Win32 doesn't have these issues.
>>107833078Needs to be at least good as a 4060
>>107834647not him but Intel does not have the infrastructure setup to handle GPU drivers for games as they treat it no different than their chipset drivers with a slow release frequency that is not acceptable for new software, specially games. If you're happy to have things remain in a broken state for 4+ months after release by all means go for it.
>>107835224Games don’t need their own individual drivers. A driver for dx12 will accommodate all dx12 games the same
>>107830069Just another reminder that PC builders are an insignificant market and Nvidia has won through superior relations with prebuild companies and laptops
>>107837117that mindset is exactly why Intel will never gain any GPU marketshare.You absolutely do need to tweak and optimize on a per-game basis otherwise you end up like AMD where games like Fallout NV flat out didn't work for 6+ months until enough people shitpost about it on reddit to get them to fix it.
