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Apple says Face ID is more secure than Touch ID but is that even true?
Sure, Face ID is statistically less likely to return a false positive with random faces because faces are more diverse than fingerprints are but fingerprints are more randomly distributed, so the odds that you know someone who shares enough facial features with you (say, biological family members, for instance) to trigger a false positive have to be higher than someone you know having a similar enough fingerprint. Even though faces can potentially be more different between individuals, fingerprints are less often shared between people the user and people who regularly appear in his life, who are the most likely people to attempt to unlock his devices without his permission.
Additionally, if you're holding someone else's phone in their presence, I'd imagine it's harder to unlock their phone against their will by taking them by surprise with Touch ID than it would be with Face ID. With Face ID, all the user has to do is glance at the device for even a split second. With Touch ID, you need to place your finger -- the right finger -- on the sensor and press. It's a more involved and intentional process, but also a more convenient one because you don't have to uncover your face or position yourself correctly or make eye contact with the device in order to initiate the unlock sequence.
Shouldn't it also be harder to fabricate a counterfeit fingerprint than it would be to create a mask realistic enough to unlock the device?

Basically, Touch ID seems just better than Face ID across the board. The only practical upside to Face ID I can think of is the ability to read notification details without touching the device.

Is there something I'm not considering here or are fingerprint sensors just better than facial recognition?
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>>107830179
The criminals can cut off your finger, it's much harder to cut off your face.
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that claim didn't really have anything to do with the input sensor it was about how the information gets between the different TEEs in the phone.
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>>107830179
making a replica of your finger prints is very easy
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>>107830179
The reason FaceID is more secure than TouchID is that fingers lose the pattern for elderly. So there are gonna be a bunch of boomers who won't be identified since their prints aren't clear
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How hard is it to 3D print a head?
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>>107830179
but it difficult to faking touch ID rather than face ID.

i don't know what apple agenda is here. maybe they cooperate with NSA. who knows.
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>>107830394
>but it difficult to faking touch ID rather than face ID.
how so?
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>>107830179
Except for when it can't tell Asian faces apart and any random Asian face would bypass Face ID
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>>107830213
the criminals can take a photo of your face, they can't guess a random 24 digit password
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>>107830374
>the elderly lose their fingerprints
What age can I become a serial killer?
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>>107830597
Or when it thinks black people are gorillas
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>>107830634
Around 70, but they gonna get you through DNA and all the mass surveillance in place though
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>>107830597
Even a pic of the person held at certain distance from the camera would work
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>>107830179
The only thing they never factored in is whether a criminal can force your face into view to unlock your iphone, but in all honesty if you get into that kind of situation, you have a lot many more things to worry about.
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>>107830658
You don't understand how Apple face ID works, do you? Ever wondered why iPhones have a big ass notch and no other phones do?
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>>107830733
>Ever wondered why iPhones have a big ass notch and no other phones do?
Because the CEO of Apple is a cockmongling faggot who has shit for brains?
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>>107830179
any biometric is a cybersecurity meme for larpers. period

i'm sick of stars of David in captcha
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>>107830634
Genius. They'll never suspect the nice old grandpa with a cane was actually a mass murderer
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>>107830213
>criminals
The police can just hold your phone to your face to unlock it and the courts have allowed it.
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>>107830640
that was google photos, which uses a different type of facial recognition. you'd have to get real close to an actual gorilla to even try it with face id
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>>107830658
>>107830625
Anon I think you're conflating Face Unlock (Android; uses RGB "selfie" cam) with Face ID (uses TrueDepth, separate from the selfie camera).
Taking a photo or video of the device's owner only works with Face Unlock because Face Unlock is purely software and just scans the camera feed for what looks like a face before comparing that face to the one on file. Face ID looks for shape, not color. It uses lasers to create a depth map of whatever objects are in front of it and compare that shape to the one on file. If you hold up a photo of the registered face, the TrueDepth camera won't see the photo. It'll just see the shape of whatever object is supposed to be displaying it. So, a hand holding a rectangle. And since neither of those shapes resemble a human head, it wouldn't trigger a false positive.
This is also why Face ID works in pitch black darkness and Face Unlock does not, and why Face ID doesn't care about things like makeup or lighting.
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>>107830292
>cop grabs your phone
>puts it up in front of your face
>phone is unlocked

My phone only opens with a pin
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>>107830777
>be a BTFO Andjeet Retard
>UHHHHH SUCKING COCKS
very telling



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