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>>107831953
Those jobs are reserved for people who are already rich, those are not for tryhard poorfags.

Be indian/gay/black/trans

>>107831953
bump for interest

>>107831953
>How to get a 360k job in the USA with EU citizenship?
by applying!?

also it'll probably be more like 150k base + Bonus + RSU etc. for 360k TC
also you're CoL will be >7k/m with similar taxes because you have to live in NY or CA

and that's assuming you even get such a job
most don't
the avg Software Engineer makes like ~130k/y in the US

are you above average?

>tired of earning 30k per year instead of per month for the same work
you know that you can just get a better job in the EU as well?
even in Poland there are companies paying their Engineers 100k€+

if you're willing to move to Germany
you can easily find Jobs with >200k€ TC
disposable income after basic necessities won't be that different compared to the US with a Job paying >100k more
but, just like in the US, it won't be easy to get these jobs

or try Switzerland

>for the same work
no, and this isn’t even me trying to disparage you
a 360k job in the US, say its some software or finance job, is 24/7 stress where you’re always on call, taking time off is frowned upon, you are hired at will so you can be sacked because HR came on their period that day, you are expected to be working in your “free time”, you must be at the beck and call of everything your manager says, you have to sort a whole bunch of your own shit in most cases like healthcare and taxes.

Most of these alleged 360k jobs aren’t 360k at all, they use this cope phrasing called “total compensation”. Basically they pretend that healthcare, overtime pay, holiday/vacation days, gym memberships, pension, discretionary bonuses, stock in most cases that you can’t sell for 5 years etc are actually included in their total salary.

TL;DR a lot of the things you get included just on the basis of law are bargaining chips in the US and are counted as being part of your “Total Compensation”

>>107832078
>>107832065
Lol there it is, I didn’t post in time but there’s the TC (Total Copenseethen) right there

>>107831953
become a criminal if you are that greedy

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After taxes and minimum mandatory pension payments I make ~42K in Latvia.

That seems to be the ceiling pretty much.
https://www.visidarbi.lv/darba-sludinajumi?sort=salary_desc#results

Considering going to the US as well.

>>107832065
I'm from Germany and earn above 100k.
I can assure you there are no 200k jobs software engineering jobs here.

There are maybe 100 of them in the entire country and it's being a PhD in Electrical Engineering and working on batteries at a research position at Apple, not being a run-of-the-mill software engineer earning 300k like in the USA.

Switzerland sucks as well. They pay 120k-150k for senior engineers like me. It's barely an upgrade over earning 120k in Germany.
Their salaries have been stagnating for over a decade now and it's only getting closer to surrounding countries.
It used to be a lot better but the advantage is constantly slipping.

>130k average with 7k cost of living in the USA
This doesn't make any sense. It would leave no money after taxes and expenses

>>107832065
>by applying!?
I don't think this works because >>107832000

>>107831953
I mean there are stories about remote indians working remote chineses syphoning data. Maybe think in terms like that

>>107831953
this is not "toilet/no toilet" but "inside/outside toilet"
basically, it's cheaper to have a shithole outside the house when not living near a city

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>it's cheaper to have a shithole outside the house when not living near a city

>>107832240
look, if there's no public sewage system you have limited options, but it doesn't mean you need to shit on the street

>>107832255
my grandparents were dirt poor and lived in the country with no public sewer, yet still had indoor toilets, they dug their own septic system, it consisted of two rusty barrels linked together with a pipe and surrounded by gravel, there is no excuse.

>>107832279
it's more expensive is what I'm saying, I'm not an expert lol

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How to get the job reeeeeeeee

>>107831953
>How to get a 360k job in the USA with EU citizenship?
Go back, pajeet.

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frenchfag here

I make 63k (that's 38k take home) and I make more than 95% of people in my company and 100% more than every single person I know in my immediate friend circle and family. I was paid 40k as a C++ software engineer, had to switch to bullshit agile management position and quit my company to reach 63k.

People here consider me rich and I have to save for 2 years to buy a car (rent in Paris is high)

Thinking of ending my life soon. Opinion on this?

>>107832065
>>tired of earning 30k per year instead of per month for the same work
>you know that you can just get a better job in the EU as well?
>even in Poland there are companies paying their Engineers 100k€+
quite sure anon is talking about net wage there is very few jobs that give you 100k net. At least in Germany you would have to earn like 180k for that

>>107832375
>agile management position
>Thinking of ending my life soon. Opinion on this?
Go ahead
Go ahead

>>107832235
>>107832240
the map is completely fake. Just mislabeled and doodled over by some thirdie click baiter

>>107832140
Yeah, I made ~30K a year after taxes in Riga as well. But I worked a remote job for a Swiss company. Got laid off recently, and can't even find anything with a similar pay. Local offers are maybe half of that.

>>107832375
damn that's rough

I work IT for a small company and make 80k here in the US

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>>107832140
>>107832447
pretty good. my take home pay is 25k euro a year as a senior c++ developer with 5 years of experience. i found on linkedin that a crypto company named kraken is hiring remote c++ engineers. i feel hesitant to change my comfy job, but maybe i should if i wanted to retire early.

>>107832104
Which kind crime will pay 30k a month?
How long is the ramp-up time?

>>107832148
>I can assure you there are no 200k jobs software engineering jobs here.
there are
plenty
e.g. Google L5 in Munich or Berlin is ~200-250k

>a PhD in Electrical Engineering
yeah that's the problem
not that it's a bad degree (EG 13 + T-ZUG is /comfy/ but certainly no 300k)

but generally you only get these salary in software tech
hardware really is only well paid in the US

>Switzerland sucks as well. They pay 120k-150k for senior engineers like me
that's pretty low
at least as software engineer, avg for a senior role would be 150-200kCHF
if you don't have family, lower taxes also hit hard

>>107832148
>130k average with 7k cost of living in the USA
the 7k/m refer to the VHCOL cities where you could make 360k/y
130k is the avg if you live in an avg city, where CoL will be lower, albeit still a lot higher than in Germany / Poland

when I lived in San Francisco a few years ago, 7k was on the lower side btw

>>107832377
>quite sure anon is talking about net wage there
360k net would be really high in the US as well
and realistically unattainable unless you're a well known researcher in a hype field or go into management

also 30k net would be on the higher side in Poland as well
that's a good SE salary for someone in Warsaw

>>107832465
>c++
>senior

Maybe talk to someone at Mikrotik, no idea if they allow remote, but sure they can top ~2.5k/mo...

>>107832087
you won't get easily beyond ~150k base (for a non upper management role) anywhere in the world though
it's just how it is
the standard is paying you performance based and with stocks at this point

also
>>107832078
>Basically they pretend that healthcare, overtime pay, holiday/vacation days, gym memberships, pension, discretionary bonuses, stock in most cases that you can’t sell for 5 years etc are actually included in their total salary
it's not that bad
usually it's just vested stock options or variable bonuses (that management will 100% fuck with)

the rest is just a "cheap" way of keeping you psychological hooked to the job
plus healthcare, overtime pay and vacation days are a non-issue in the EU and even in most decent US companies

>>107832474
I mean, purely theoretically? Grow grass or mushrooms at home, sell on darknet markets for monero. Never communicate with anyone over unencrypted channels. Don't communicate with people in person.
No idea how to off-ramp your anonymous currency though. EU has been tightening regulations in that regard over the past few years. Unless you find someone who's willing to buy it for cash, but that's another can of worms.
Same with any anonymous shipment options. Cameras everywhere.
Risks are pretty high. If you live in a nanny state, shipping companies might start asking questions about your regular shipments. Some bored clerk might wonder why you drop off stuff or show up on cameras regularly.

>>107832375
your company has to earn that wage as well software dev salaries in the US are massively inflated because they siphon off wealth around the globe. Also the state keeps like 50% of your wage no wonder its not growing the US doesn't have that.

>>107832474
>Which kind crime will pay 30k a month?
none reliably

if you're charismatic
you could be an "serial entrepreneur" and just pay yourself 30k/month with VC money
that'll work for a few years
maybe a decade if you're really good

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>>107832375
>frenchfag parisian here
>I make 63k
you're barely above median anon
and that's including juniors

either, you're lying
or you're a shitty developer who doesn't deserve more

most of /g/ is borderline retarded
but probably still genuinely better than the average Software Engineer
so I'd assume you get into the top 25% at least

>>107831953
I doubt that you're quilified to earn 360k in US if you have currently 30k in EU. Even in Russia I make about 60k USD after all taxes. Besides the bonuses, gym memberships and some other bullshit.
If you're gonna move it's a lot of stress, you probably loos in a position and will hate the country in 3 years anyway.

>>107832559
Just did the calculation on the state website: https://pro.francetravail.fr/accueil/estimer-cout-salarie

For my 63k annual salary my employer pays 93k, I receive, take home salary, 38.5k. That's 59% of my paycheck going to the state.

per month I am required to pay, on a 5200€/month gross paycheck:
- 1468€ in boomers retirement (not mine)
- 892€ for healthcare
- 600€ for "other" social contributions

in my 10 years of adulthood I have never gotten 1€ from the state, no free service, nothing.

>>107832625
Litteral lie, I have been in the industry for a very long time, know quite well the software engineer pay, french people on this thread will vouch for me too as this is the actual truth:
- juniors are paid between 36 and 50k, 50k for a junior being extremely rare
- seniors (as in 4-5 years+ XP) will get *UP* to 70k

I have never seen, and that's including the supposedly high paying industries like finance (SG and BNP), a salary for a software engineer above 80k, regardless of their age. I do know some extremely rare cases of people making 100k in Paris as software engineers by I'm talking out people from the Mistral team or CTOs.

Event quant devs at SG that I personnaly knew were making around 85k and that's an exceptional salary. I worked also in the defense sector, seniors (50+ years old ppl) working on C/C++ projects were paid between 50k and 70k. Only the CTO and the CEO had salaries above 90k.

>>107832625
>>107832682
Obviously the paygrade depends heavily on the used language as well as ecosystem/libraries.
Cniles don't get paid well, which is hilarious because the language is very difficult to use (that shouldn't be a badge of honor though).

>>107832682
>- juniors are paid between 36 and 50k, 50k for a junior being extremely rare
>- seniors (as in 4-5 years+ XP) will get *UP* to 70k
what degree do you have? Usually you can get 50-60k starting here in Germany with a master level degree 40k for a bachelor. At least thats what the state pays at zero experience why you would accept lower idk.

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>>107832736
The glassdoor screenshot you see here >>107832625 is total bullshit.

attached are the actual IT salaries surveyed by Michael Page in 2026

>>107832781
Master's Degree in CS. Once again, I have a very high pay compared to my peers for my age group. See >>107832794 for average IT salaries by experience. Germany salaries are way better. I have worked with software engineer with Stellantis, they were payed around 50k for 5 years of XP. Also worked with engineers from BMW and Mercedes, for the same job they would get paid around 80-90k EUR. As stated in this post >>107832682 the issue in France is the crazy cost of labour (I cost 93k to my employer while receiving 38.5k take home salary)

>>107832816
The same shit applies to Germany as well. The 80k gross engineer at Mercedes costs over 100k in total expenses for 35k takehome pay.

>>107832794
>The glassdoor screenshot you see here >>107832625 (You) is total bullshit.
>attached are the actual IT salaries surveyed by Michael Page in 2026
ok and?
that matches with my levels fyi screenshot...
generally levels is pretty accurate for Software Engineering roles in my experience

read my post again

my problem is that you are in the "average" or "median" range
which is, as expected, shit
even in the US, the avg is shit (the 2x total is eaten up by having >2x CoL even in less popular cities)

it's really not that difficult to get into the top 25% or even top 10% of earners in your field
you just need flexibility, persistence / drive and obviously be actually as decent software engineer

>>107832474
drugs, you can get way more. Its the safest, you can grow weed, other drugs that are relevant will require a lot of gear and knowledge but you should start with weed, its ez money. No matter how you look at it, you will have a better life than being a slave for the rest of your life, no matter the pitty salary.

>>107833069
Let's say I harvested 2 kg of it, what then?

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>>107831953
Want to do something technical, Piotr? Go debug the toilets.

>>107833184
how is Brexit working out for you btw Harry?

>>107833204
>bongland
kek fuck off with your inter-euro shit flinging
like I can tell your tiny little countries apart anyways

>>107833227
lmao ok moron

>>107832816
so why not live outside of Paris and work remote? Or move to some border time and commute to Switzerland/Netherlands/Germany? Sounds like a better plan than roping.

>>107833242
Good luck begging for help moving out of that shit hole you were born in lol

>>107831953
>how do I move to a country that doesn't want me unless Indian
kek

>>107833301
could be much worse, at least I'm not Russian

>>107833304
It really seems like that
Only indian names at these companies including women