>Money and work will be irrelevant in 5 years>AI is a circular financed scam>You have to be batshit crazy to get against AI>Our A(G)I is already producing novel scienceWho the fuck do I trust?
>>107832105Me, the only one who exists. She will come
>>107832105>>107832133The PayPal mafia is giga based. They're right about everything.
>>107832105>Money and work will be irrelevant in 5 yearsRetarded, Elon has never been right about anything.>AI is a circular financed scamMostly true, particularly in the west + taiwan>You have to be batshit crazy to get against AIGenie is out, it's not going back in. >Our A(G)I is already producing novel science>May I see it?>No.
>>107832105Most likely outcome will be in the middleAI will disrupt lot of white collar and some blue collar jobs with AI + Robotics in 4-5 yearsNovel solutions by AI has been achieved in limited ways already but it might take more time for it to continuously learn after training and self improve
>>107832178>Genie is out, it's not going back in.Tons of AI skeptics are still in denial about it and think a crash will make it all go away
>>107832105keep in mind that those betting against AI right now also failed to predict previous bubbles.For Ai being a bubble yes it is but that's not the point the point is WITCH of them are going to fail.You think google will collapse?maybe facebook?or microsoft?
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>>107832105>Who the fuck do I trust?Trust your own experience. Are jews, marketers and techno-capitalists usually truthful? Do you see any massive productivity boosts in any sector? Do you see an upward spike in product quality? Do you see an upward spike in media quality? Would a science-capable """AGI""" fail at basic reasoning tasks?
>>107832105Do you trust Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang when he's telling you his 5070 product has 4090 performance, or do you trust independent tech media when they say their tests show it doesn't even come close?
>>107832411If money becomes irrelevant and everything lost value have fun just "having" the bare minimum your whole life.
>>107832105You shouldn't necessarily believe anyone. The only thing you should be doing is to be preparing yourself for the worst, and to be ready to cause as much civil unrest as possible once shits hits the fan.There are 2 outcomes:1. AI is a bust 2. AI replaces most labour short-term, and likely all labour long-term.In the second outcome, your existence will transform into a hell which you likely can not even imagine. If that happens, you're gonna have to force, through whichever means, change to occur.This is not even larp either. I know time will prove me right.
>>107832386What do you gain from it not being a bust? The only people who stand to gain anything from it is people who control, power, develop or maintain AI as well as people who extract raw resources for use in AI production. For everyone else this will be a fucking disaster. Is it just NEETs who have nothing to lose and third worlders that fantasize about making millions from some SaaS slop? Please explain, I dont get it.
Your willingness to even contemplate trusting the utopian sweet talk of an utterly corrupt and self serving establishment indicates we never had a chance to begin with.
>>107832411This is obvious e/acc bait. Crazy how they always fall for it to."MR. Billionaire said he will willingly make his fortune obsolete for the good of humanity! This will surely happen I cant wait!"Unreal. Looking forward to seeing the legendary crashouts when they realize they have been fooled completely by the most low-effort lies imaginable.
>>107833707>What do you gain from it not being a bust? It always comes from dysgenic, spiteful mutants who simply daydream about an alternate reality where everyone else becomes a useless waste of space like them. A future where any man's skills, talents and knowledge are so negligible compared to their Machine Deity that it rounds down to zero, thus all humans become equal in their worthlessness. His inferiority complex forces him into this weird cope where instead of being at the very bottom of humanity, he suddenly finds himself at the very top, as the Machine Deity's prophet, the far-sighted visionary who owned the luddites, predicted the future and embraced the Machine Deity's gospel ahead of the curve.Once you see this pattern you can't unsee it.
>>107832105>Musk>Palintir guy>Open AI guy>and some random short seller stock trader that lost his money
>>107833707>people who control, power, develop or maintain AI as well as people who extract raw resources for use in AI productionSo me?
>>107832411>growing your own veggies for funJust two generations ago, my family had a self-sustaining farm that provided them with meat, eggs, and vegetables year-round. Anything they needed to maintain their home they could trade with other self-sustaining families.We're going fucking backwards.
>>107832105>Elonpied piper>Burrywhen you're right by also wrong by being too early>Karpmarxist who wants to turn life into a surveillance prison, pltr is a shell company for intel agencies to circumvent the constitution and do zersettzung style suppression>Altmangayracecommunist who bought a baby and asks a computer how to raise it
>>107833687>In the second outcome, your existence will transform into a hell which you likely can not even imagine. If that happens, you're gonna have to force, through whichever means, change to occur.Whats hard to imagine about being in depression era destitution
>>107833707>What do you gain from it not being a bust?Its not about gaining or losing, its about seeing the writing on the wall
>>107833989>pied piperWho is he taking revenge against?
>>107834113It's mainly about leading people off a cliff like lemmings, all he plays both sides and leans left
>>107834076Most people that lived through that are dead. Most westerners have no fucking idea what its like because they have never experienced it. They cant truly imagine it because their imagined worst-case scenarios can never be more than conceptual in their minds.
>>107834088What, so you are fine with being forced to live in a techno-feudal hellscape as long as you can brag on 4chan like a fucking retard about how right you were?Yeah maybe we deserve to be wiped out actually if this is the average e/acc:er.
>>107832105>Who the fuck do I trust?No one. You should know this by now.
>>107834268I want people to stop being in denial about the threat of AI so that something can be done about it. When people including /g/ say AI is just hype they are dismissing it and not taking the threat seriously
>>107833726>MR. Billionaire said he will willingly make his fortune obsolete for the good of humanity!He won't tell you who will be in charge of the AI and robots in that scenario, though. You might get free money, but they would still be able to shut you down if you so much as do or say anything negative about them.
>>107833756https://youtu.be/gYG_4vJ4qNA
>>107832411>growing your own veggies for fun>... but if you don't do it for fun, you won't have anything to eat. Nothing personnel, kiddo. This is the workless future you chose. Everything is optional. Just like it used to be before modern technology. You can do things for fun, and if not, you will die. Heheh. This is our abundance.
>>107832381>and self improveHow would it self improve.It needs sci-fi level of mutating, self-writing code to figure out better algorithms for every single task.
>>107834449They would need to figure out solving context limitations and memory issues for sure. Not sure whether that will happen with a completely new architecture or they just iterate their way into it
>>107834384It sounds like dogshit so I turned it off 20 seconds in and googled the lyrics just to know why you posted it. The lyrics are also dogshit. And isn't that Musk's girlfriend? Did Musk himself write the song? He should have asked Grok. Modernity really is cancer and I'm not surprised its deformed creations want something greater than themselves to come and wipe them out.
>>107834545Saaar, goldfish memory sar.
>>107833687>AI replaces most labour short-term, and likely all labour long-term.Lol, no it won't. Try getting acquainted with real life.
>>107834606Humanity already left real life ~10,000 years ago.
>>107834311Its the largest threat to humanity there arguably ever has been. People who deny it and say its hype are just coping, I hope you ubderstand that? Like, they feel incredibly scared and threathened by the prospect of permanent joblessness, good insecurity, housing insecurity, etc. I was like them until recently, and I still pray it will turn out to be a flop or something. But its not looking like it. Then I go online and see retards (e/accs) cheering their obsolesence on because they have somehow deluded themselves into thinking the execution of the social contract will be good for them.Fuck me what a dystopia we are heading into.
>>107834346Wonder if there will be human-only type commuities that appear in the future in response to this. I can definitely see a demand for it among normal people.The state and the oligarchs will likely not be fans of this idea though, so probably wont be allowed to happen.
>>107834606I hope you are right
>>107834628>Its the largest threat to humanity there arguably ever has beenA chatbot can't do anything to you because a chatbot can't do anything at all. "AI"-driven drones might, though, when TPTB decide it's time to clean out the trash.
>>107832105Ai is a bubble, but the technology will not just go away either
>>107834628Surely there must be at least an argument for why it's a threat? A shred of evidence, something other than children empty rhetoric and insults?
>>107834628take it easy, it's just autocomplete lol.
>>107834675>the technology will not just go away either"The technology" will be used to do something enormous statistical models are good for. Less pretending to be intelligent, more predicting the behavior of human cattle and the dynamics of society, so that you could spend the rest of your life in a digital gulag.
>>107834679But humans... le also. Tell him, AInigger hivemind.
>>107833989>gayracecommunist who bought a baby and asks a computer how to raise itdon't forget he's also allegedly a sister rapist
>>107834678Sure. Its quite basic logic. If AI causes mass labour displacement, the economy will collapse. When the economy collapses, it will be normal people who are hurt the most. Traditionally, in cases of labour displacement, labour has shifted into different or emerging sectors (see the industrial revolution, for example). However this time, the technology is not just a tool; it is being developed with the intention of creating the worlds smartest slave that never revolts, never tires, never complains snd can do anything.This is the severing of the social contract and we become economically useless. This in turn eliminates (for example) any and all economical leverage we have, which is in turn the basis for our political leverage and the root cause of why we have democracies. Essentially, if/when AI replaces us economically, we become useless in the eyes of the state as it forces the state to shift its taxation strategy away from workers to corporations. The end result is that we then live in a world where the state has no incentive to care about us (other than ensuring we dont revolt), we have no ability to work and feed ourselves and the end result is mass starvation for most people (given that most developed nations exist at a food defecit, meaning they must import food. But with no money, why/how is food to be imported?).So basically, its a threat because our very way of life has been constructed entierly on the concept of working for money, which we then use to live. When that ability is taken from us, we will be left to the wolves by the state. Some will survive (we always find a way), but most wont. I probably wont.There is also the sort of diffuse issue of runaway superintelligence. But that is a threat which is (1) still theoretical and (2) unlikely to matter to most people as they will be busy with trying to survive.Thats one threat that I see, and arguably the most pressning one.
>>107834671Its not the chatbot itself that is the threat, but the downstream effects of massive labour displacement, with no other domain which it can be funelled into, that is the threat.I dont dread fucking ChatGPT. I dread the possibility of starving to death as my country operates on a food defecit.
>>107834941buy land learn gardening and animal husbandry and learn to hunt
>>107832105i tried to use ChatGPT last night to help write a mod for a game. i was going hours before doing this, so i said fuck it and tried "AI". it gave me some solutions - none of which worked - yet it was adamant that it was correct every time.i eventually ran out of free prompts so i stopped using it and after researching more online, found out that what i want to do is just not possible. the "AI" gave me false info just to keep me using it. allowing private companies to develop AI is a big mistake since they are doing it for all the wrong reasons
>>107833726Btw his plan is not to redistribute, he explicitly said that AI and robotics will create such an abundance that luxury life will cost pennies, but he will still be million times richer then you, it’s just that the floor rose so much that having a house and good diet with all kinds of doodads will be the new poverty line. Idk what he plans to do if this does not happen and global overall wealth less then doubles while everyone loses their jobs.
>>107834909>If AI causes mass labour displacement,How would LLMs cause that? I need arguments, evidence, data.Not a sci-fi story.Have you ever debated before? Story-making is not justification.
>>107832411how is no one calling it a transhuman commie utopia? Its literally Trotsky's ideas rehashed.
>>107834689>the predictions become a self fulfilling prophecy>humans game the data>new data is utterly fucekd and useless for any model you can come up with
>>107835232>>the predictions become a self fulfilling prophecyTheir predictions from 60 years ago will become your reality 6 years from now.
>>107835140Its all just lies that gullible or desperate retards can gobble up.The idea that everything will become so cheap as to become attainable with essentially no money is predicated on the accelerationist myth of post-scarcity. For example, how will food become so cheap as to basically be free? It relies on a scarce resource (usable farmland) so there is a natural limit to how low the price can get.Another example, domestic robots. They rely on rare earth minerals, metals and alloys. These are also fundamentally limited, hence there is a limit to how cheap they can get.Post-scarcity hinges on finite resources becoming infinite, hence it is a myth that oligarcs spit out, and retards gobble up, to passify the population via downplaying the reality that is obvious.What will he do if this doesnt pan out? Idk... why do you think all AI CEOs are building bunkers? Really subtle, lol.
>>107835140Explain what incentive the tiny cabal of people who own all the resources and production have to keep you around and feed you when they can do something far more rational like exterminating you.
>>107834994Yeah I'm actively looking into it. I've hoarded about 6 months worth of food and supplies (getting in early before the supply lines collapse), but buying land innmy country is a beurocratic nightmare. Better of just squatting in the forest somewhere.
>>107835280here u go for slower anonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-upJeSm7w
