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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand
*Prices have increased for Raptor Lake processors, only worth considering if discounted or if reusing DDR4. New DDR5 builds should be AM5 or LGA1851

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Check your 12VHPWR connector due to melting issues (all cards)

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcb/ for every use case and budget!
Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
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How will you be adapting to higher memory and storage prices in 2026?
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>>107836821
i won't be buying much tech, forced to /waitfag/
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>>107836821
I already bought everything I needed last month in a final panic before prices really locked in.

SN850X 4TB for $370
Currently available for ~$500-1000.

22TB Toshiba MG10 for $420 (with retail 5 year warranty)
Currently not really available for sale with a retail warranty from what I can tell, new in box OEM drives (no warranty) are $500-700 though.

2x24GB RAM for $360
Currently ~$500-800


Not the AMAZING prices compared to summer, but good prices for today at least.
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>>107836818
You forgot the rumor mill that PSU is next
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>>107836924
apologies, have not been in the thread for some days and just copypastad stuff as filler.

what do you mean by PSU is next?
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>>107836802
Now this is a real computer case, not one of those aquarium abominations.
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>>107836936
There's rumor brewing out there that PSU is the next component in this price increase hysteria, although obviously this one is not because of the Open AI crap. Unconfirmed, but just something to keep in mind for anyone who is still missing a PSU for their build.
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>>107836821
I'm pulling the storage drive from my laptop to use for my build
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>>107836956
maybe the next OP will put it in there >>107836818
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>>107836899
>22TB Toshiba MG10
A really good, professional-level HDD for personal use? What kind of projects are you doing with this?
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>>107837129
AMD really fucked up by not having a 24gb 9070xtx
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>>107837210
that extra ram would be useless
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Man, I kinda wish I waited for this orange Hyte X50 instead of the macha green one.
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>>107837228
Maybe but a 24gb 9070xtx with a similar or slighter lower pricing than the 16gb 5080 would’ve helped Radeon immensely with sales
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>>107836821
I wish I bought more storage but I already have about 4TB of NVME storage in my main PC, plus another 8TB mechanical drive. And i have about 40TB free on my NAS, I should be good.
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>>107837228
Maybe for gaming but some AI "enthusiasts" would've wanted it. Probably would've had to be priced to compete with used 3090s and 7900XTX though.
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>>107837287
nobody is doing ai anything with amd gpus lol
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>>107836998
Seeding torrents.

It's my 2nd 22TB drive, the first about half filled, accompanying a 16TB Exos I got 4-5 years back that is filled.

I seed 24/7/365 so i prefer enterprise drives rated for those conditions over consumer drives that might be a little bit cheaper.
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>>107837292
>words words words
just say porn nigga
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>>107837232
this looks like a pc case for kids
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>>107837291
If they sold 24gb or 32gb of vram at $650 then at least people would try altough now they would been fuck 10x harder by the prices, i tried to get a RX 9700 to mess up with ROCM and it was impossible to get one in my country unless i had a corpo backing me to buy several of them while i can get any workstation nvidia card from local stores
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>>107836802
What case is this?
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just found out 1 of the 3 gpu fans is more than enough for small tasks and way quiter.
It baffles the mind why gigabyte doesnt do this out of the box, they obviously bothered with two seperate pwm driver channel
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not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have any desk recommendations? I want an L shaped desk where one side ideally is no longer than 55 inches and the other is longer.
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>>107837317
https://gamemaxpc.com/x9-full-tower/3740.html
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>>107837317
GameMax Titan Silent 2
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>>107837302
Less than 400GB of the ~11TB of anime is hentai/ecchi, the other ~14TB is purely movies/TV, no porn. Sorry to disappoint anon.
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>>107836956
i returned a psu that was a hair too big for my case last week and received the refund already. the PSU is still in transit.
i did return several other things on the same order, so maybe that has something to do with it but it's still really odd and dovetails well with the PSU rumors
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>>107836821
I'm getting around to building a general use "modern" PC.

I had been meaning to since late 2023, but dragged my feet until now since I thought I was fine on console. I'm hurrying to build it now since prices sure as hell won't get better any time soon (unless the bubble pops, but them we'll have other issues to worry about).
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>>107837313
>24gb or 32gb of vram at $650
you have no idea how the economy works
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My 3.5mm front audio jacks are fucked, they got bent too hard and now they no longer work. What's the cheapest way to replace your front audio?
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outside of graphics, why should i upgrade from a 1080p monitor to 1440p? wouldn't i suffer a performance loss? i hear that i'm playing my games with my gpu being unable to use its full potential though.

i7 10700k
32 gb ddr4 ram
9070xt
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>>107837494
buy an external audio dongle/dac to plug in usb port
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>>107837494
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>>107837501
at least get a 10bit monitor, the colors are better. they're also cheap. ktc 180hz-200hz 10bit is like $100-150.
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>>107837501
>9070xt
going to 1440 on the 9070xt should not be a noticeable performance hit.
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is a 1000w psu going to be enough for future gpu upgrades? I tend to keep my pc for 6-8 years and upgrade the GPU at least once during it's lifespan. I'm building a 5080 system and will likely get a 7080 or 8080 when it launches. Do I need to bump up to 1200w or is 1000w fine?
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I'm flying to akibabara on wednesday to try my luck with gpus there. I heard it's depleting fast. Anyone got any experience?
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>>107837607
1000W is the bare minimum, get 1200W if you can afford it.
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>>107837607
Even 5090s are fine with 1000w so you'll live with 1000w. You have to ask Jensen about the future cards though
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>>107837501
You really shouldn't go to 1440p on a 9070XT, it's more of a budget 1080p card.
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>>107837628
>You have to ask Jensen about the future cards though
Yeah that's what I'm worried about. Nvidia doesn't give a fuck anymore so I wouldn't be surprised if they just massively up the power draw of their cards.
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>>107837637
Power requirements are only going up, get the biggest PSU you can.
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>>107836821
Last spring I upped my memory to 32 GB for just $25, now I can see the same pair of modules asking price $170. I've got some older SSDs and HDDs in storage for whenever I need them. Just gonna hold out for the hype to die down, there should be plenty of cheapies on the other side.
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>>107837525
that's not a replacement for your front hd audio header
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>>107837607
I bought a 1000W PSU ages ago (might even be closing in on a decade now). It has served and continues to serve me very well, in a PC with a 7950X3D and a 4090. I'm sure it would handle a 5090 perfectly well too, since I've never really seen my PC go over 650W, there is quite a lot of room left.

I don't really know PSU prices right now, but I'd get something with more headroom if possible. 1000W is still more than enough for today but if you're buying something new I'd say you want more headroom and room for growth.
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>>107836821
I still have to buy a HDD
price goes up every time I look at it
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>>107836821
I don't really need more memory or more storage right now.

I am considering however whether I should replace my 8 year old phone (still works great, but maybe I should get something new before this one gives up the ghost). Also considering whether I should try to convince my dad to upgrade his old PC (get one of those mini PCs maybe), but he's never wanted to whenever I asked him before.
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Why do so many people with a 5090 have more than 1 5090
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I want a real reason why the Sapphire 9070 xt nitro plus OC burns itself

it pulls 350W max

Is it bad board design?
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>>107837607
the people suggesting that you need a 1200W power supply are retarded. I've seen 5080 builds running on 650W EVGA power supplies (though I wouldn't recommend it as you have little breathing room).

A good quality 850W is the sweet spot these days. 1000W is if you want extra breathing room.
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Blackwell is easily the greatest GPU ever released and the finest silicon ever.
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Trying to build a work station. Would be Linux on the metal to manage server tasks using shit like mdadm for software RAID. I also use Davinci Resolve for video editing. I would be using Windows in a VM and utilizing Intel's Quicksync for my actual rendering tasks. Being forced to choose would you get
>Intel Ultra 9 285k with compatible board, cheapest 64GB kit of RAM I can find
or
>New old stock i9-12900k, DDR4 capable board, and used 128GB of of whatever RAM from eBay.
>inb4 buy AMD!
using Linux, VMs and the IOMMU requirements, and quicksync requirements, I actually have need of Intel tech.
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>>107837747
That 12 pin high power plug is known to have major issues and potentially burn itself/what it's plugged into if the plug is even slightly not plugged all the way in. That plug is a huge mistake.
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>>107837725
Because they're not using them primarily for gaymes
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>>107837747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HjnByG7AXY
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>>107837779
I can't see how more ram and a more supported platform in alder lake wouldn't be the go to
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>>107837350
>Less than 400GB of porn
grim
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is it retarded to stack dual ultrawides? thinking about getting a monitor arm. currently have one ultrawide but i'd like another monitor to play videos on.
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>>107837770
Imagine the fine wine memes if DLSS 5 or 6 runs on fp4 instead of fp8
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I just got a decent deal on a MSI 3060 12 gb on ebay but it's got 3 fans and I've never had experience with long boi's. Do I need a support bracket for long term (7-10 years given the current unworthiness of replacing said 3060) or is that just meme shit?
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>>107837841
Just order one for 2 euros on aliexpress, order one of those start buttons while your at it for another 2-3 euros
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>>107837841
i wouldn't bother.
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>>107837806
>more supported platform
In what regard?
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>>107837814
better go sideways than stack on top
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>>107837869
>giant fucking monitor bezels directly in the center of where you'd be looking
fucking retards with money I swear.
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Who’s of the opinion that prices will never get better?
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>>107837880
My gut feeling
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>>107837880
>Who’s of the opinion that prices will never get better?
until something happens that proves we are in fact in an AI bubble, prices will keep getting worse. That or until another company steps up to fill the consumer void. I know even big companies like HP/Dell are considering using Chinese sourced RAM chips just to keep up their OEM lines. If you have the money, go ahead and buy now. Otherwise I feel like the "just wait" bit going to be years.
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>>107837855
>order one of those start buttons while your at it for another 2-3 euros
Okay what's the meme/what am I in for? I had to get one before word gets out nvidia is gonna remake them and everyone on ebay starts thinking they're magically worth $100 more.
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Is it just me or does it feel like this hobby is dead now? No one can afford GPUs or RAM and CPUs and motherboards are only slightly less insanely priced. Cases and cooling have had a good couple of years I guess, but that doesn't matter if no one can afford to put anything in a case.
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>>107837880
better or not either way we are talking years out so what does it matter

we'll be on ddr6 by then
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I love PTM7950
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CES had real mid cases I guess I gotta wait until computex
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>>107837759
Well I am considering these 2 options for the exact same price:
>Seasonic VERTEX GX-1200 Gold
>FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000W

At the same price what would you go with? The FSP is 3.1 and the Seasonic is 3.0
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>>107837912
You can get a b450 and 16gb ram and a starter ryzen for like 250 and change. Only "modern PC's" are dead because they're so sparse and everyone is turning to mobile/mini stock shitter formats because nothing else in the ddr5 range is reasonably affordable or practical for the entry level gamer.
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>>107837912
that's the end game anon. No one will have super powerful PCs is the desired result. Make everyone have to rent PC hardware. Cloud gaming, cloud computation data centers, cloud storage, you name it.

You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
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>>107837912
It ebbs and flows, right now the rampocalypse is causing an ebb, along with other things like competition from chinkshit "minipc" boxes. In general computers have become commoditized but there will always be the weirdos who want to build their own.
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>>107837912
just use klarna or bnpl lets not pretend everyone isn't already doing that for basically everything anyway
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>>107837923
>FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000W
is one of, if not the highest possible rated 1000w unit , period. If you have the $260 or w/e it costs, it's 100% the choice to get.
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>>107837912
if your "hobby" consisted of upgrading all the time then yeah i can see that
most of us already have decent rigs though
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>>107837939
1000w is the bare minimum for a 5090 RIGHT NOW. Imagine how bad it's going to get in a generation or two. You're retarded if you recommend anyone buy a 1000w PSU. This is like redditors saying 16gb of ram is all you need in the current year.
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>>107837935
>just put yourself into debt
Don't fall for the Jewish tricks anon. Just don't buy it if you can't afford it.
>>107837944
desu I think this massive inflation on prices means people might actually build their PCs to last now instead of throwaway trash because they intended to upgrade in a year anyways.
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>>107836956
Sounds like general anxiety rather than something realistic. Getting into the PSU market is about 0.001% as difficult as getting into the IC market. It's far more likely that there will be a glut of power supplies due to a decline in demand as system building slows.
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>>107837950
>1000w is the bare minimum for a 5090 RIGHT NOW
>5090
>$3k card and even caring about cost of the PSU

Just go spend $500 on the top PSU and stop worrying then.
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>>107837747
the guy probably didn't plug it in all the way this time
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>>107837841
Hi, Mr. LaFitte! Been a long time. How's things?
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>>107837876
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>>107837971
stupidest fucking design ever. How the engineers sat down and went hmmm, yup that looks good.
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>>107837927
>B450
That's going on a decade old though. If you have to go that far back to get something affordable, it's basically dead.
>>107837944
We've been in this shit for several years now, though. The GPU market has been fucked for several years.
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>>107837951
>Just don't buy it if you can't afford it.
HA! Next you'll be telling me not to talk to strangers online. This is a new world, 0% interest, you'd be crazy not to spread out the payments.
Buying outright is almost never the right play.
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>>107837979
well the point was saving lives > looks, and so far it has achieved that
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>>107837903
It's just nice to have, you save 1-2 seconds not reaching for the regular one, over a couple of centuries you save a lot of time. I ordered this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009457733285.html
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>>107837966
even so it shouldn't be drawing crazy melting amounts should it?
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>>107837912
It's not dead, just restricted to the hobbyists with more money. And the people getting priced out might just shift to a cheaper variant of the hobby: bargain-hunting, pre-owned components, etc.
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>>107837995
i don't understand what you're asking

>>107837989
why bother doing this when you can just enable power on by lan in the bios and turn your pc on from your phone
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>>107837984
>Buying outright is almost never the right play.
and that's why people are in crippling amounts of buy now, pay later debt, more so than any other debt.
>>107837986
Racers used to be MEN. Now they're pussies complaining about safety.
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>>107838004
Normal people have their phone up their ass on vibrate, having a dedicated physical button at the desk by the keyboard saves both time and don't disturb the vibrating business.
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>>107837995
it's no the amount of voltage/wattage. The improper seating such as not being plugged in all the way, not being properly angled, etc, make resistance climb which causes heat to climb.
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>>107837912
You build every six months or something?
Buy when it's good, don't when it's not
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>>107838020
not really, racers complained about the halo.
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>>107838020
>and that's why people are in crippling amounts of buy now, pay later debt, more so than any other debt.
NTA, but that's not really my concern or yours. Learning to use credit responsibly is a skill. Some never get it. Most people do. And, for those, 0% is the best option. You have access to your money that I'd hope is working for you in the meantime.
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>>107837983
>The GPU market has been fucked for several years
i'm sure you're still waiting for that $300 flagship
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>muh prices
Am i the only one who thinks they aren't as bad as people say they are?
Like you don't have to buy all the components in one setting, you can wait every paycheck to buy different components and or set aside $100 each paycheck and put that into your PC build budget, is it really that hard to set aside money and put it into some sort of savings acc?
and you don't need to get the most expensive cpu or ram out there, amdjeet have cheaper options (see pic related) or as the OP mentioned for intel, the 12600k
and do you really need that 5090? you could get the base 5070 or the 5060ti if you're worried about vram...
idk i just might be out of touch, but the prices here aren't unreasonable and if you're savvy with your money you could budget and find cheaper parts elsewhere
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>>107838056
the cost of ram jumped like 1000% in one month so yes i think that's bad
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>>107837950
Good thing he said 5080 and not 5090, then. Totally different power class.
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>>107838056
that RAM price is garbage since it's some shitbin 5200 kit you're not showing us
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>>107838066
6080 and 7080 will likely have more power draw than a 5090. If he plans to upgrade in the future then he will need 1200w
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>>107837880
There's zero percent chance anything gets better within the current presidency
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Chink RAM when?
alternatively, AM4 refresh when?
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>>107838056
nobody cares about the ddr5 3600 cl 92 ram you just found
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>>107838076
And what power connector will they use?
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>>107838078
>within the current
kek the world is much bigger than anon thinks
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>>107838056
>non 3D AMD Chip
>dog shit RAM kit that would have been $120 MAX 2 months ago
>hurr durr do you really need the 5090 hurr durr
You're a retarded faggot nigger
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>>107838056
The prices are beyond terrible. Your ram cost less than the price of your "discount" 3 months ago.
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>>107838084
the united states is the main character of life, to pretend that they don't control literally everything is delusional. if the us consumers are hurting, it is a for sure bet that you will feel our pain too
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>>107838041
Nope. Just something worth upgrading to from my 6900 XT that doesn't cost $2k or more. But it doesn't look like either AMD or Nvidia are interested in serving the high end gaming GPU market anymore.
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>>107838079
>AM4 refresh
whats the point? the cartel will not shit out cheap ddr4
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>>107838056
My build increased by 200 euro from this summer, but I had to downgrade from 64 to 32gb ram, bought 990 evo instead of pro and bough 8 core instead of a 12 core cpu. So still doable but I actually would have liked 64gb ram for music production but I refuse to pay what they ask for. My strategy is: Go with 32gb for a couple of years and buy 64gb when or if the bubble breaks.
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>>107838095
Pretty much everyone already has DDR4
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>>107838056
I honestly ram being so expensive means we can get cheaper CPU's when nova lake and zen 6 releases, there is no way local retailers, board partners, AIB and oems can survive the rampoclaypse without lowering the margins on boards and cpus
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>>107838083
I hope a built in power connector becomes a standard soon enough. fuck cables
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>>107838106
i honeslty hope*
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>>107838090
i misjudged you
6900 XT is still based
carry on
>>107838103
true but sadly some people fell for the 16GB meme
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>>107838109
I hope nvidia learns to design good cards instead of brute forcing performance.
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amdbros there is still hope
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>>107838109
>we're approaching an era where it won't be uncommon for motherboards to require 4x 8pin CPU power from the PSU
I hate this timeline.
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>>107838056
RAM's price spike sucks, no two ways about that.
GPUs prices have mostly followed inflation.
Everything else honestly feels kinda cheaper than it used to be, especially for what you get.
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>>107838071
>>107838080
>>107838086
>>107838088
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-vengeance-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cas-latency-cl36-desktop-memory-gray/p/N82E16820982285
it's corsair... it's a 6000kit dummies...
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>>107838109
This reminds me of EV vehicle owners claiming their cars don't cause pollution while their power comes from a coal-fired plant. This design merely removes the housefire cable and replaces it with another cable going directly into the motherboard, somewhere else. So, you have up to 600w going directly into the motherboard and running through PCB traces to the new socket. Sounds to me like more dangers.
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>>107838056
>and do you really need that 5090?
Trading in your XX80 every other gen for a new XX80 is better than buying an XX90 imo.
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>>107838109
this shit is even worse
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>>107838142
>Timing 36-44-44-96
should be a third of the price
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>>107838142
>$439
>6000 36-44-44
fuck that
even those discontinued G.Skill 6000CL26 kits didn't cost that much
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>>107838118
12VHPWR works for most scenarios, it's just not trustworthy for high-current connections where even a slightly msiplugged or poor quality socket can cause problems.
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>>107837983
>That's going on a decade old though
It's been that long since upgrading was worth a piss.
>If you have to go that far back to get something affordable, it's basically dead.
The only thing that changed was the theoretical bandwidth and ssd speed really, you can run half the rtx lineup on pci e 3.0 if you're so inclined.

>>107837989
I see. Well I don't need a switch and my "bracket" will be some mechanics wire or legos lol. I just wanted to know if anyone has had long term issues with them fucking the pcb and whether I should bother or not.

>>107838056
The only thing fucked right now is anything with ddr4-5-5x. Motherboards, "older gen cpu's" (12th) can be purchased for steals on ebay. The only reason why people think they're "slower" is because they either do not understand what
>theoretical limit
is or
>they are 4k, "4k", AI or movie editing tier rigs and actually see the bandwidth capped
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>>107838142
What's your point?
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>>107838167
There are some pretty major CPU performance differences between Ryzen 2000/3000 and Ryzen 9000.
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>>107838167
>and whether I should bother or not.
only the housefire cards have a cooler heavy enough to warrant a support.
300w 3 fan cards have been around for a long
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>>107837335
What software is this? And are you worried about localized heat spikes were the fan is not running relative to VRM or RAM temperatures?
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>>107838194
fancontrol my nigga, it's a requirement on any pc
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My PC only has 32gb of RAM and I think it's insane ti upgrade. I hope 6080 will be delayed and my 4080 will remain relevant.

Still won't buy an OLED. $2000 for monitor that will last 2-3 years is insane
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>>107838117
>meme
It wasn't a meme! Everything turned so fucking fake and gay that it just ate up the RAM by nature of being coded by useless eaters.
>>107838109
I hope a timeline where a GPU doesn't use half a fucking induction heaters worth of electricity comes soon.
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>>107838174
>>nobody cares about the ddr5 3600 cl 92 ram you just found
>What's your point?
someone wasn't following the convo
sure, ram prices DID increase, i'm not denying that, with that said, i don't think these prices are as bad as people say they are, they'er still affordable, and in the case that you couldn't afford these, just put aside some money each paycheck, doesn't have to be $100, could be $50 or even lower, and buy each component separately if you're building a new rig, simple as

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-flare-x5-32gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl36-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820374419
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>>107838194
>And are you worried about localized heat spikes were the fan is not running relative to VRM or RAM temperatures
why would i
nvidia shills the zero fan mode themself.
all heating componends are padded to the heat sink and my fan curve turns the 3rd fan sooner back on than nvidia would
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>>107838201
I'm still sitting on a 2x16GB kit of Samsung B-die DDR4 3200MHz with CL14 timings I got when Ryzen first hit the market. In my personal use of shit loads of firefox tabs with a game open, discord and music in the background, etc, I've never gone beyond 18GB of RAM used so I don't get what people are going on about 32GB barely being enough for general/gaming use.
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>>107838223
most likely you have w10 ltsc, not regular w11
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>>107838223
I've exceeded 32GB before with a few browser tabs open, a game running, and a YouTube video playing.
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>>107838188
Like having those extra threads for the AI/movie editing rigs I was talking about. But most people won't actually utilize that potential. You can game on a 1500x if you're inclined.
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>>107838244
Your shit got a memory leak
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>>107838201
OLED monitors are not anywhere near $2000 anymore
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>>107838219
I didn't understand that you had curves turn the other ones later from that picture I guess, but now I don't think that would be worth worrying about then
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>>107836802
So are AM5 mobos just fucked when it comes to higher numbers of storage drives? I've been having an issue with my new Asus tuf x870 build where it will randomly stop being able to read the m.2 drive in the third slot, and after some forum crawling, it seems like this is a persistent problem with x870 mobos regardless of what brand/model you buy.

How are Intel boards z890 able to have 5 m.2 slots without any problems, but so many x870 boards shit their pants periodically if you actually use all 4 m.2 slots on the board?
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>>107838125
>Experimental support
I bet AMD owners are glad they save $50.
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>>107838235
>most likely you have w10 ltsc, not regular w11
I have Windows 10 pro with the extra year of security updates they offered, that's all. How the fuck is Windows 11 using so much RAM?
>>107838244
there's something going wrong then

I haven't done any weird tweaks or registry changes or nothing. I turned off as much telemetry as possible, uninstalled all the bullshit programs that come pre-installed, etc but that's it.
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>>107838250
Probably. But so does pretty much every application these days.
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>>107838245
There are games that I could run on a Pentium 4, but that doesn't mean my experience won't be significantly better with a 4690k.
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>>107838261
Intel unironically is better when it comes to the day to day use of a system.
AMD's only advantage is gaming performance, everybody ignores everything else for some reason.
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>>107838252
> OLED monitors are not anywhere near $2000 anymore
They are. Name me models and I show you the price. While rest of hardware has good prices here, monitors are hell expensive here.
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>>107838284
Bro, this site is USA based where OLEDs are $500-1000
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>>107838284
>here
Move to civilization, son
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>>107838284
nta but this was just what I could see without having to scroll down. I don't know if you have some sort of elitist notion of what is and isn't an OLED but there are plenty of panels under $2k. You get even more options if you go with QD-LED
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>>107838284
Here you go.
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>>107838301
>>107838284
I forgot my picture.
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>>107838306
that is a TV
I'm not using HDMI on a PC
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>>107838284
>They are.
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>>107838312
Ironically the HDMI is more high bandwidth on many monitors
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>>107838306
That's a TV.

Also, ai? The are insane.
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>>107837834
fp4 is too little to store any meaningful number.
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>>107838312
>I'm not using HDMI on a PC
fucking huh? Are you playing at being retarded or are you just naturally gifted?
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So the ones complaining about pricing are turd worlders..
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>>107838311
>>107838311
LG 27GS95 is way above $1000 here.
Also, you need higher resolution because of pentile. But I didn't do much research.
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>>107838337
Yep, I'm complaining about prices and I live in a primarily Spanish speaking country (USA).
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>>107838337
And the ones that don't mind paying $400 for ram are unironic uncs
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Upgrading my current build.

>current
Ryzen 5 5500
CoolerMaster Masterliquid Lite 120
NZXT H510

>upgrade
Ryzen 7 5700X
Cooler Master Atmos Stealth 360
Corsair FRAME 4000D RS

am I doing this right?
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I'm trying to pick a mouse and this shit is fucking insufferable. I can't find a guide oriented to my category and anything else is either "best for a/b/c" or just reddit posts with randos saying "I like x."

I want ergonomics (ideally ring/pinky rests but that's incredibly rare) for general use and adequate gaming performance. Horizontal scroll if possible, not a retarded shape/material that will trap endless grime.

From the trawling I've done so far, I've come up with Razer Basilisk or Pro Click. Cheaper would be nice but I can't come up with much else other than g502 hero.
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>>107838318
this monitor is available only on order and just a little over two thousand dollars. I will not study the entire list.
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>>107838327
in a year you'll look very dumb
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8gb vram is perfectly fine btw
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>>107838056
>Am i the only one who thinks they aren't as bad as people say they are?
They are actually much worse.
4 months ago, you could buy a 6000 32GB kit for 75 dollars
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>>107838351
That CPU upgrade probably isn't worth it unless you're getting a really good price on it. You also don't need a 360mm cooler for a 65W CPU.
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>>107838361
How about the poorfag special?
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>>107838359
My only problem with the G502 series was the double click issue that happens after a while. But I took mine apart and replaced the switches when it reached that point, and it's been great since then.
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>>107838351
No
Upgrade GPU 1st and go from there
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>>107838282
Honestly, the only reason I went with a Ryzen 9 9900x vs an Intel 265k was that the 9900x had more real cores. I actually don't even mind the P vs E core thing but now that the P cores are also mostly single thread, there's no point when I really do need the CPU parallelization for my numerical optimization work. Why spend the same money to have 4 less threads and have most of my cores be single thread (not even factoring in the dead platform bit).



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