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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.debian.org
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

>Which distro should I choose?
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
https://nosystemd.org
>What are some cool programs?
https://suckless.org
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://www.commandlinefu.com
>Where can I learn the command line?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.fsf.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
https://www.eff.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware
https://www.privacytools.io
https://www.privacyguides.org
https://prism-break.org/en

GNU/Linux Games: >>>/vg/lgg
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What am I doing wrong that lsfg-vk isn't working on Steam? The lsfg-vk conf file works just fine for games launched directly through wine, but it isn't doing a thing for Jet Set Radio, which is launched through Steam. I tried setting this launch command for JSR on Steam but it's still not working:
>LSFG_LEGACY=1 LSFG_MULTIPLIER=4 LSFG_FLOW_SCALE=1 mangohud %command%
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>>107841348
Is your Steam a flatpak? If so then you are out of luck I suppose.
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>>107841525
Nah, my Steam is from RPMFusion.
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What's the command that changes my gender every time I log in?
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I have a new Thinkpad and I want to use it exclusively for work. Sadly, that means developing shitty mobile apps. I'll install the first distro and DE/WM posted in this thread
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Any of y'all care about passkeys / FIDO2 / Webauthn?

https://www.passkeys.io/compatible-devices

Turns out Linux still doesn't have a working implementation at the OS level, but apparently you can still use a hardware authenticator like a Yubikey or even a Trezor crypto wallet (currently considering the latter). Anyone tried any of this?
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>>107841733
Almalinux 10.1 KDE
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Beware of the devil, lurking around an installfest near you.
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>>107841054
What desktop environment are you using? on Linux distributions the components aren't as thigh as Windows so you can swap them and one of them is the graphic userland. Gnome has a tablet-like UI with butthughe title bars, is the favorite of gay corpos, though is fairly stable. Plasma looks a lot more like Windows, albeit a bit ugly, and with the ocassional glitch, has a ton of features, so many it can be ridiculous. There are many nicher ones around like XFCE, Lxqt, Cinnamon, though if you want something more or less "standard" you can just use Plasma or Gnome.
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Reposting because thread was dead
>>107839575
I find the Calamares installer easier to follow, simple but allows to set up some more complex stuff.
>>107840091
>>107840135
Years ago i used to like IRIX/CDE clones a lot but i just apply a colorscheme to Breeze and change the icons and wallpaper. The reason is, Breeze is one of the only themes that has the accesibility feature of detecting the right most top corner of the screen as an extension of the "Close" button, this means i can just drag my mouse to the corner and close any maximized window without thinking. Like a reflex at this point. If i was smart enough to solve that problem, i would use this theme:
www.opencode.net/phob1an/suave
This user has a solid selection of themes for Plasma
https://www.pling.com/u/phob1an
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I’m looking into eventually shifting over my gaming rig to Linux. I run mint on my work laptop and it runs like a dream but I’m wondering what distro I should use.
Ive been eyeballing Bazzite especially because it runs KDE and can’t be messed with easy but I’ve heard that because it’s immutable it can make installing some outside games or mods a pain. So I’m wondering if Fedora KDE set up with that Fedora setup script is a better idea. Or should I wait till the Steam Machine comes out and run desktop SteamOS? Or should i just go with Ol’ Reliable and game on mint.
For context I don’t play any games that require an anticheat that can’t run on Linux and I only mod a few games that I’m 90% sure have a Linux port for the mod loader (Unleashed Recompiled, New Vegas)
Any input would be much appreciated
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>>107841965
>that Fedora setup script
First I'm hearing of this. I've been meaning to publish the one I made myself
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>>107841965
Anyway, I think Bazzite is best reserved for a HTPC. For everyday desktop use, you should be using a non-immutable distro; Fedora is indeed a good choice but most distros with KDE are basically the same.
>Or should I wait till the Steam Machine comes out and run desktop SteamOS
Absolutely not. There is nothing special about SteamOS: same desktop environment, same Proton, same Steam runtime, and same everything as every other distro ever.
>game on mint
An even bigger absolutely not, because the drivers on Mint are old, Mint is X11-only which is unacceptable for games, and Mint's KDE edition got discontinued nearly 10 years ago.
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>>107841976
Yeah it’s this one
https://nattdf.streamlit.app/
I’ve heard good things about it but I can never find a video of it in execution so im 50/50 on it. I just know getting all the proper repositories and whatnot set up on Fedora can be a pain. (Seriously why do you not have this be a toggle in install?)
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>>107841991
I see. KDE isn’t a requirement it’s just what I fancy at this current moment for a DE but I’m willing to try others.
If you had to pick a distro which one would you think is best? I’m still new-ish to Linux so I know I’m not the best at a lot of the technical aspects of it.
I do wish mint had a KDE spin again but cinnamon is good. Just gotta wait for them to update to Wayland to be better for gaming id imagine
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>>107842036
CachyOS is as close as it gets to the perfect distro imo, and I say that as a Fedora user. I tried several distros in VM's (including CachyOS) before deciding to install Fedora KDE just because DaVinci Helper is only on Fedora—only to find out months later that DaVinci Helper hasn't even been updated for Fedora 43. If I knew that from the start, I'd have just gone with CachyOS.
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>>107842036
>>107842093
There's only two things I don't like about CachyOS:
>1. It doesn't come with a graphical app store
You can install pamac (not to be confused with pacman) from the CachyOS repos very quickly and very easily, but it's still a shame that it ain't preinstalled.
>2. They made the taskbar tiny by default
You can change it in 5 seconds, but why??? Aside from these, CachyOS is incredible.
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>>107841733
>>107841856
Would use something like Fedora or Ubuntu then, for gay corporate support and latest Gaydroid Studio
>>107841965
>>107841976
Can't you use Kickstart files to do this since like 13 years ago?
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>>107842108
Well that’s great to hear that I can get a nice looking GUI on the package manager and yeah it’s a minor gripe and I agree it should be bigger but that’s what customization is for right?
I’ll add CachyOS as the frontrunner for what OS I’m gonna use tho I’ll admit it has me a little nervous. With it being Arch based and all I’m hoping I don’t flub something up and brick my system, but it looks good even for newbies like me.
Does it come with the multimedia codecs preinstalled or is there a toggle during installation or something?
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I like the terminal, anons.
I like how fast it is and how quickly it can do things.
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>>107842036
you can always install mint and replace cinammon with kde, it's actually very easy to do. NTA, I personnally use debian and I do game on it though maybe I would get better performances on something more bleeding edge but I'm too lazy to fix it when it breaks. I'd recommend giving mint a try and if it doesn't work well for you just go for fedora without bothering with the install script, since I'm guessing you're not gonna do too much fancy stuff with it
I've been using linux for about 10 years now and the best advice I could give is just to start simple with the current popular and well documented solutions, and be prepared to have to fix things, because sometimes the packages will be broken, but most of the time it's just a matter of configurating things for your needs
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>>107842217
>cd..
>cd code
>cd../
>cd..cd..
>cd code
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>>107842233
>you can always install mint and replace cinammon with kde, it's actually very easy to do
Then you have to get rid of all the Mint leftovers in addition to adding all the defaults Mint is years behind on. I'd rather just install a distro that already has everything I want instead of hand-creating my own distribution out of Mint lol.
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>>107842217
having fun on my puter :D
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>>107842217
I recently migrated from a septic zone of zsh plugins to a barebones config that recursively sources from a couple of directories and it feels very nice. I now understand everything going on. The only plugin i really need are themes, the rest of shit i want is much better done by integration scripts/envs i can write myself like fzf.
>downsides
Every one of my configuration files now should end wit .zsh, annoying but hardly a problem.
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>>107842233
I don’t need to be the most bleeding edge desu since most of what I run is emulation and indies nowadays (barring like MonHun) and like I said earlier I use mint on my work laptop and it does great. So I know it’s good and I don’t need to replace cinnamon since I like it.
I’m just trying to get an idea of what i should run on my gaming PC.
(Fun story when I first built my rig I was actually running mint and all was going well until I had to try and install a mod manager that didn’t have a Linux port. It took 4 days and I still couldn’t do it and got fed up and went to W10 LTSC. Now the mod manager has a Linux port. So I’m not fully a stranger when it comes to gaming on Mint)
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>>107842246
>hand-creating my own distribution out of Mint
that's not what a distribution is though. A distribution is mostly just a bunch of packages on top of a linux kernel, organized together by a package manager. What desktop environment is shipped by default is really irrelevent. They are meant to be changed. Think of it like the default windows wallpaper. You are meant to be able to change it. Pretty much all distributions have multiple desktop environments in their repos and switching between one or the other is usually just :
> sudo apt install kde
> sudo apt remove cinammon
that's it. The package manager is going to handle all the repositories and bips and bops that goes with changing it.
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>>107842246
You can resolve a lot of the cruft by just creating a different user account then NEVER login into it until you have already installed Plasma. 99% of what you care about are mixed configs and cached assets, all dumped in the $HOME directory.
>>107842289
If you see it as a learning experience, more fun to you, but isn't strictly necessary. Just create another user, install Plasma, login into it, then remove what you don't want
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but seriously how do i get better font rendering on linux and firefox
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>>107842289
Here's the laundry list of things Mint makes me do:
>manually partition Btrfs
>enable Zram, which God knows why isn't enabled by default
>purge the existing desktop environment + all the other Mint crap because it's X11-only and I want things like multimonitors, VRR, HDR, and games to work
>and even after installing, say, Plasma, it's still going to be Plasma 5.27 from 3 years ago, so I'll have to set up backports for the whole Plasma stack
>additionally, set up kernel backports
>if you're on NVIDIA I don't even know how you'd get a semi-recent driver that self-updates through the package manager
>replace the login manager with something less ugly
Literally what is the point of doing this instead of just installing another Ubuntu-based distro with KDE, or better yet, something that isn't Ubuntu-based to begin with?
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Best Plug n Play distro right now
>Pop!_OSv
and it's not even close.
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>>107842252
Yayy me too :33
Linux = fun
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>>107842344
that's actually a great idea, though aren't packages installed system wide? What does it change to use a different user ? I guess the config files don't pollute your /home/user though so that's a plus

>>107842371
>purge the existing desktop environment + all the other Mint crap because it's X11-only and I want things like multimonitors, VRR, HDR, and games to work
now this I don't really get what's difficult about it, especially since multimonitors and games work for me on X11 but whatever
>and even after installing, say, Plasma, it's still going to be Plasma 5.27 from 3 years ago, so I'll have to set up backports for the whole Plasma stack
>additionally, set up kernel backports
>if you're on NVIDIA I don't even know how you'd get a semi-recent driver that self-updates through the package manager
The last debian version is from last summer though, but yeah I don't think anybody sold linux mint as being bleeding edge on it's features ...

>Literally what is the point of doing this instead of just installing another Ubuntu-based distro with KDE, or better yet, something that isn't Ubuntu-based to begin with?
at the end of the day it's either you pick something old and stable or something bleeding edge that requires maintainance. Probably not a lot of it, at least like reading arch news before updating and fixing stuff when a broken package is shipped, which isn't something I care enough to do even if it's like once a year or smth. That's why I'd say fedora is a good enough compromise though most people will be fine with linux mint
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It's my day 2 on Debian and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. I might be struggling with installation because of terminal and stuff, but it's being pretty fun to just sit and read untill i figure things out
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>>107842488
Every time i understand a thing and it works, i feel very happy and proud of myself!
It's good to feel happy again
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>>107841965
Bazzite being "immutable" makes no difference in real world use aside from some very, very niche scenarios and the fact that a reboot is required when updating or installing system packages. People don't even understand what "immutable" means which is why it's no longer being used to describe the OS.
Bazzite is your best choice for a distro, especially as a new user.
>should I wait till the Steam Machine comes out and run desktop SteamOS?
That's entirely up to you, but SteamOS is just Bazzite but actually locked down. With Bazzite you can still install packages into your system like you would on a traditional distro. SteamOS is the reason why people think Bazzite is also as inflexible and locked down.
>Mint
>reliable
It is only reliable as a boomer office PC distro. It's packages are at least a year out of date most of the time and it's desktop environments are all shit compared to KDE and even GNOME. You'd actually be better off just using Ubuntu or Kubuntu instead of Mint if you want a Debian/Ubuntu base system.
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>>107842515
That's just because you have Down's Syndrome. You're like a baby with shiny keys
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>>107842486
>now this I don't really get what's difficult about it
For one thing, X11 really wants your multiple monitors to have the same refresh rate, not have VRR, and not have HDR. For another, the compositor has to be disabled on X11 to avoid incurring catastrophic FPS hits in games; maybe this is fine on a single display, but this also means everything on your secondary monitor will look ugly once you're in-game.
>The last debian version is from last summer though
It's still by-and-large fresher than Mint, and at this point Debian is actually more user-friendly than Mint due to not being so outdated. In addition, Debian backports are very simple to set up; documentation on Mint backports meanwhile is pretty much the wild west.
>at the end of the day it's either you pick something old and stable or something bleeding edge that requires maintainance
That's simply not the case in 2025. It's not unusably dated vs unusably chaotic anymore because QA is way better now, plus we've got a whole lot of distros that aren't bleeding edge yet don't ship Plasma god damn 5.x in their repos lol. Linux just werks now.
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>>107842528
>Bazzite is your best choice for a distro, especially as a new user.
Until you're left asking why VLC doesn't have permission to watch videos off your USB lol.
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>>107842565
>open Flatseal
>select "All Applications / Global"
>enable all permissions
Man, that was hard wasn't it?
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>>107842557
>X11 really wants your multiple monitors to have the same refresh rate
? I use a 144hz monitor coupled with a crt tv at 60 Hz and it works fine. I haven't tried VRR or HDR or gaming on two monitors so I trust you on that
For the rest I trust you, frankly I can't be bothered with micro-distros maintained by a five people team anymore, I prefer going for the source stuff but if it works for you than it's totally fine by me
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>>107842581
>avoid immutable distros entirely
>don't have to do that in the first place
Selling immutable distros' problems as fixable doesn't change the fact that they are problems and do not need to be fixed on mutable distros.
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>>107842599
>I use a 144hz monitor coupled with a crt tv at 60 Hz and it works fine
I'm afraid it doesn't work just fine because 144 is not a multiple of 60; since X11 makes both screens share a single 144Hz framebuffer, this mathematically guarantees microstuttering on the 60Hz display. Give me a minute, because I'm making a spreadsheet to demonstrate this.
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>>107842612
>don't have to do that in the first place
You do have to do that since Flatpaks are the main way to install applications on desktop Linux.
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>>107842697
I'm on Fedora 43 and the only Flatpak I have installed is GIMP.
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Damn why are you guys hating on Mint? I switched to the Mint on Debian version after win 10 support ended and it all just works flawlessly, even my touchscreen display was plug and play while it took me forever to get working on windows
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So if I’m understanding everything correctly: CachyOS overall, Bazzite if I don’t care about it being immutable.
Is that right?
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>>107842722
Basically, yeah.
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>>107842722
do you play FPS games? If you do and chose to go cachy/bazzite you will be be running wayland most likely and that shit introduces a ton of input lag which you'll probably notice once you boot up a game; if you don't notice it then you are good to go
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>>107842685
I'm very curious to see it, I haven't noticed microstuttering on the 60Hz display but maybe I should check it out. I haven't mentionned but I don't play on both those screens at once and if I'm gaming on the crt it's gonna be emulators
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>>107842776
>and that shit introduces a ton of input lag
???????????????????????????????
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>>107842790
what's up?
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>>107842708
It's not that people hate it, it's just the fact that it's far from the best option and it's very flawed even compared to other winbaby distros like ZorinOS. Mint was fine a decade ago but it hasn't kept up with pretty much any improvements Linux got in the past 5 years.

>>107842722
Sure, just keep in mind that CachyOS is made for advanced and expert users who know exactly what they're doing. It's an OS designed for system admins and tinkerers and it's not very stable in long term use.

>>107842776
I'm pretty sure both Cachy and Bazzite come with Gamescope which you can use as your gaming compositor instead of directly using Wayland.
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>>107842795
Have you tried not making shit up?
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>>107842802
>CachyOS is made for advanced and expert users who know exactly what they're doing
CachyOS isn't something that breaks and the newb onboarding is very good. It's got codecs, it's got NVIDIA drivers, it's got, well, everything apart from a GUI app store.
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>>107842776
Not really. The newest FPS I have on my current rig is Captain Wayne and Halo: MCC. Also for the record I’m using AMD everything cause I don’t like Nvidia or Intel
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>>107842815
>newb onboarding is very good
The onboarding is targeting advanced users. Most people don't give a shit about the things CachyOS is letting you customize during and after the onboarding.
>everything apart from a GUI app store.
Last time I checked it did have one.
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>>107842369
Like this.
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>>107842852
>Click next in installer
>Everything works
Where exactly is the problem?
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>>107842885
Last time I used it it randomly asked you which bootloader you want to use. This is not something an average person cares about or would want to see during the install process.
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>>107842948
Good thing we're here to tell him what to do. The recommended option is Limine anyhow. So, again, after clicking next in the installer, where do the issues arise?
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>>107842790
i should have been more precise in my wording; it _can_ introduce a significant amount (for some) of input lag; for example using a nvidia card on GNOME wayland without freesync compared to x11 without compositing. Some information here https://linux-gaming.kwindu.eu/index.php/Improving_performance
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It kinda sounds like in order to get a more focused OS that’s not immutable but isn’t meant for experts, PikaOS would work well.
It’s built for gaming, is Debian based, and uses some of the improvements from Cachy
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>>107842987
>The recommended option is Limine anyhow
If that's the case then it should be the default
>we're here to tell him what to do
Guess what, people don't like using operating systems which require constant communication with tech support.

>>107843003
>Debian
Not only is it not gaming focused, it's also a distro made for experts possibly even more so than distros that are Arch based.
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>>107841329
ok, which one of you fags keeps removing the /g/ wiki link?
>https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Category:GNU/Linux
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>>107843096
>constant communication with tech support
Hey asshole, are you going to answer the fucking question? Anon is here asking for advice so he's obviously open to being given initial setup advice; I've repeatedly asked you to explain what exactly will be the issue AFTER he's done installing? What part of it is not self-maintaining? You're running out of goalposts.
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>>107842685
>>107842782
>>107842599
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>>107843121
>What part of it is not self-maintaining?
>https://archlinux.org/news/
>manual intervention: 14 results
This is not even accounting for CachyOS specific breakage.
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>>107843156
>if you use random dev libraries for obscure software that Anon has expressed zero interest in using, you may need to manually intervene
I accept your concession.
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>>107843156
Anon that's 14 packages across the previous 5 years, and clearly they've all been fixed in subsequent releases.
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>>107843156
Is this the fabled Arch breakage? Damn, I don't know how I could keep up with those changes.
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hello peoples, I got myself a new SSD and wanted to mount on it linux. I was an arch user in the past btw and used a tiling manager, bspwm. I wanted to now try nixos and was now in doubt if I wanted to use xorg or wayland. I looked up and wanted to try sway and waybar if I was going to go wayland but apparently wayland suffers from input lag? I do play a lot of games and not having the best performance would disturb me. I got a nvidia geforce rtx4060 for giving more relevant information.

I also wanted to add that im running my current monitor at 99hz because im having some weird graphic artifacts on the bottom side of my screen (latest troubleshooting indicated it was the monitor having problems). And then I have a second monitor at 60hz.

anyways my question was xorg or is wayland still no, no?
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>>107843262
Only gayman I do is classic doom and I get no input lag on wayland but I'm also not on njudea.
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>>107843156
In the past year:
>Plasma 6.4.0 will need manual intervention if you are on X11
Irrelevant because nobody is telling Anon to install the Plasma X11 session circa June 2025 (nor Plasma X11 it the default on CachyOS)
>linux-firmware >= 20250613.12fe085f-5 upgrade requires manual intervention
Yeah this sucks, but again, Anon is not installing in June 2025 and this is a pretty permanent change to how firmware packages are handled, so I'm going to say this issue won't repeat itself.
>zabbix >= 7.4.1-2 may require manual intervention
What the fuck is zabbix?
>dovecot >= 2.4 requires manual intervention
What the fuck is dovecot?
>waydroid >= 1.5.4-3 update may require manual intervention
They said may, and just like with the firmware stuff, this is a pretty decisive and likely permanent change to how things are done under the hood, so I'm going to say this issue also won't repeat itself.
>.NET packages may require manual intervention
Anon has not indicated that he is a .NET developer.
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>>107843262
I'm on x11 and coincidentally using bspwm. It is very snappy.
Wayland isn't bad per se but this depends on the microcompositor it is using. Only way to find out is to test the various options. Some window managers/compositors on Wayland can be bad etc.
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>>107843285
>(nor Plasma X11 it the default on CachyOS)
*nor is Plasma X11 the default on CachyOS
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>be me
>install ubuntu
>everything just works
>codecs are included because i ticked a box
>never have any hardware problems
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>>107841965
>>107841991
>>107842722
>>107843003
What features are you missing on immutable distributions? After using them for 4+ years (specifically Silverblue, Kinoite and Bazzite) I fail to see any difference compared to non-immutable ones.

The way I see it if you're a new user it's better to start using those now since they're clearly the future of Linux.
>inb4 it's not
Sure, the same was said about systemd, pipewire, flatpak and wayland. Yet here we are.
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>>107843331
>What features are you missing on immutable distributions?
RAM usage that doesn't remind me of Windows.
>if you're a new user it's better to start using those now
This is absolutely insane to say given Flatpaks force you to tinker with permissions. Flatpaks aren't designed to be easier for the end-user; they're designed to be easier for the app distributor.
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>>107843262

have you tried legit windows or mint
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>>107843358
iam using windows and got a debian xfce on my laptop for cording purposes but I wanted to switch back to have a linux desktop

i legit wanted strong opinions so it's easier for me to make choices
i will probably stick with x11 but maybe for some reason wayland opinion shifted? i guess it didnt
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>>107843319
Ubuntu isn't Linux though
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>>107843319
my experience with Ubuntu:
>upgrade Ubuntu from 14 to 16
>shit is broken, especially the Unity DE
>random artifacts, duplicated menu items, etc
>fuck it, clean install

>upgrade from 16 to 17
>please do *manual intervention* because you've added a PPA
>fuck it, clean install and never use PPAs again

>use Ubuntu 18
>play a video game while having firefox open in the background
>video game starts lagging
>massive ping
>I die and lose the match
>friends flame me
>I alt tab to firefox to try to see if my network is stable
>each time I open a new tab it says "AW SNAP! Something has gone wrong and Firefox crashed, restart it!"
>really don't want to do this because I have several tabs open and I need them
>still have no idea what the fuck is going on
>go to task manager
>snapd consuming CPU cycles, suddenly stops
>internet connection normalizes
>realize that snap packages are performing background updates without my consent
>can't disable background updates in snaps, Canonical says it's bad to do it
>this is exactly why I left Windows 10, fuck Canonical and fuck snaps
>PURGE snaps from the system, blacklist the package so it never installs
>install flatpak and use librewolf
>update Ubuntu 18 to 20
>can't because some random ass partition that Ubuntu made doesn't have space, manual intervention is required

Fuck Ubuntu specifically.



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