/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsSeia (Swimsuit) Edition>NewsZ․ai releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flashOpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmlLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesServices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metaLogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgdesuPrevious: >>107833342
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>>107842900lol
>>107842902thread filters, maintain thread qualityhttps://rentry.org/desuschmoxyreborn
cunny...
UOOOOOOH THREAD EROTIC!!!!! Bratty OP...making such a lewd thread when I can't even masturbate right now...
Most underrated piece of shit in the game desu
>>107843039I doubt Seia is rated lowly by anyone.
>>107842905Careful, you will invoke the Fatefag.
>>107843119Yeah, me. That's why I called her a piece of shit
>>107843145You are an enigma, anon. But have another Seia.
This hobby is only for the rich because all the poorfags will never get Opus
>>107842900>>107842902>>107843119>>107843195>slop archive
>>107843206but i get opus for free
>>107843209Sure Poorfag but you will never show proof of it
fuck opusis there free sonnet?
>>107843209Based, same
>>107843195Piece of fucking shit, I will fuck her right off the top spots and into the trash tier where she belongs
>>107843215Nta, but—>>107843226Yeah
>>107843292What is that?
>>107843305A Chinese spyware. Interested?
Idk if these kinds of posts are even allowed here, but I'm getting really frustrated with Opus and need to confirm it's not just me. I'm using it through OpenRouter with Google/Anthropic as a provider (not much difference, desu).We all know that the models get quantized eventually after the initial rollout, but this feels ridiculous even for quantization. The quality of dialogue has dropped significantly; it now spits on negative examples and actively uses everything from them without much thought. Memory has gotten 10 times worse, it can't remember things properly. The emotional smarts also feel like they're nowhere near the previous levels. It can't infer a lot of subtext anymore, takes things too literally, or, in the rare cases that it does get the context right, it needs to spell it out and acknowledge it explicitly. And overall, the instruction-following is horrible. I've spent a long time tuning the instructions for response length so the dialogue feels natural, instead of a book chapter being thrown at me every time I make a joke. Now it literally can't handle more than two NPCs in a scene. The second NPC either disappears from view and stays completely silent, or Opus launches into a book chapter where it starts writing dialogue for me. Literally no third scenario.It all was so easy and fluid and natural, and then suddenly it just isn't. And the model doesn't want to cooperate. I've spent like $15 trying to iron out the quirks before just ragequitting because it feels like the model suddenly took a hammer to the head.
>>107843315Link?
>>107843317preset issue
>>107843325Antigravity Check the desuarchive
I refuse to use slopus 4.5. When will claude 5 release?
>>107843317I assume you mean opus 4.5, try 4.1 instead
>>107843421>pay 2000000 more dollars a promptno
>"Her usual X demeanor/persona completely shattered."HELP HOW DO I STOP THIS
>>107843451then suffer, faggot
>>107842900>>107842902pedotroon thread
>>107843565Stop shattering it
>>107843654I CAN'T, I ONLY RP WITH DELINQUENT/ VILLAIN CHARACTERS TO MAKE THEM GOOD
>>107843694cftf?
>>107843728Did you know that originally they were made for boating, and out of cork, so they would provide a little upward lift if the girl fell overboard?
>>107842900I fucking love platform sandalsthey are the more alluring piece of attire that ever existed, more than crocs
>>107843694Tell me about your favorite delinquents.
>>107843756Made most of them myself. Maybe I'll send the cards once I'm on the computer.Aside from that, I kind of try out any card I come across. Had some great RPs with a card of a girl named Nisha and one of the magical breaker cards villain. Those I remember off the top of my head.
>>107843195What is this mental illness? Please tell me that a fan made this cringe fanservice and not the actual company.
>>107843317Yeah I remember something saying this earlier but my opus 4.5 feels very dumb and em dash heavy. Yes instruction follow is horrible since even OOC depth 1 "don't write for user" doesn't work at the start of the context. Very strange.
>>107843877>Are they giving FANS what they WANT? EEEEEEWWWWWShut up soiboy
>>107843887you're using fakepus
>>107843877trans post
Why are poorfags keep acting like they have real Opus and not some repacked Chinese proxy
>>107843887Embrace the sloppiness of nu-AI.
why is bait no longer believable?
>>107843890>Are they giving FANS what they WANT? EEEEEEWWWWWPlease tell me what the fans want without making it sound pedo
>>107843694Link them. I too wish to cure them with my cock.
>>107843827Please do
I will always believe in dick unity. I don't care about any of this bigoted, racist, classist muh opus vs gemini vs chink model babble. Every model is created equal. I have a dream that, one day, /aicg/ will flourish once again no matter what you use.
>>107844034sizechad btw
How can the claude be overloaded, you damn ziggers are animals I say!
>>107843986The fans appreciators of the female form and the devs understand that.
>>107843986Holy shit you're such a soilord. Do you think pretending drawings are icky gets you off the watchlists? It's always you anti-loli faggots who have the real skeletons in your closets.
>>107843986Attractive cute characters
>>107844066Which proxy?
>>107842902>>>/v/730639053>ChatGPT if you're just checking a box, NovelAI if you actually want good stuff.>>>/v/730639304>NovelAI not only does NSFW, but was built specifically for it as a response to AIDungeon censoring it.More evidence that there are actual paid shills on /v/.
Any public gpt proxies yet?
>>107844112I mean, the second post is technically true enough. But the first one... man. At least they could be a little more subtle.
>>107842900seia's unbelievably hairy pussy...
Anyone else getting constant timeouts from smolproxy? Particularly on Gemini, streaming or no.
>>107844162Clean and smooth
>>107844251fake news. seia is a focks
>>107844245i'm not getting timeouts, but im getting filtered on a prompt that i have been using since 2023. it worked before the domain transition, but now it gets blocked by OTHER. it's not even nsfw, it's sfw. gemini 3 pro
>>107844264Agreeed. Getting OTHER too.
>>107844269i guess i will be waiting until this shit sorts itself out
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>>107843451Why do you think the price went down? It's not going to be the same quality.
SAAR USE MY PROXY WITH REAL OPUS SAAR!!!
there's 0 reason to use opus 4.5 over sonnet 4.5 unless you're cooooooooooddddiiiingggg
>>107844264>>107844269>>107844277gemini's fine for me on my keys and proxies I'm on
>>107844300Yeah, it's better
>107844245It's weird, if I turn streaming on it goes through but stalls after like 800 tokens. Streaming turned off it doesn't even complete, just a socket hangup error
>chub is still broken to meLORE I WILL SHOVE YOUR SOUL INTO A BLACK SOUL GEM AND USE YOU TO MAKE FIRE RESISTANT BOOTS
>>107844245I'm randomly getting prohib content on gemini 3 but only on my anthro dog girl bot I made. Yet some near-bestiality stuff goes through just fine.
>>107844362Give >>107801103 a try.
why did you guys do this?
Why is there no Proxies with Opus
Like, her she.
>>107844316opus 4.5 can be noticeably more creative and spontaneous than sonnet, but it's really hit and miss
>>107844400They already losted anywaysENTRY OF DEFAULTIn accordance with plaintiff’s request to enter default and affidavit of, Robert Luis Uriartecounsel of record for plaintiff, the Clerk of this Court does hereby enter the default of ArianYadegarnia, Ricky Yuen and Phat Phung Tan for failure to plead or otherwise defend as provided bythe Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.The entry of default is in accordance with Rule 55(a) Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. >have to default because nobody cares>let go of drago (the only guy they could have maybe gotten)
>>107844378i just use the chat subdomaini dunno why but it works and i can fix the css with a script
>>107844407nice em-dash>>107844417phat tan, bro.. gonna be funny when microshit tries to collect in those countries
>>107844417source?
>>107844429>phat tan, bro.. gonna be funny when microshit tries to collect in those countries
>>107844451lol I can see it now 'Sure bro, give me 10k, I'll find them, totally'
>>107844407Did you tell the boté to output in First Person POV ({{user}}), or **perchance** you just want to show off your own proomptin'?
>>107844433https://www.noticeofpleadings.net/fizzdog/index.htmlTheir official site
Where the Opus in any proxy
Today I learned preset formatting on Gemini 3 is stupidly important.
>>107844478Yeah... can you show us your CoT?
>>107844112Ohhh is there a new /aicg/ thread on /v/?? Fuck those are the best.
>>107844462why is it called fizzdog? scary
Nothing came out of this either.Khanon fucking won.
>>107844458kimi, it's sometimes dumb like that for me and continues to write {{user}} pov. I wish my promptin' was this kewl. Or this slop>words words words you X I Y. First bull that snorts owes us a story."Hate this ism, a tryhard poetic capper that isn't even in character.
>>107844498khanon shot himself in his trailer park in illinois surrounded by his loved one
fake news khanon is busy fucking his hairy dog
>>107844501Huh. Kinda reminds me of the times when Slaude's leaking; writing for "Human:" as well. Twas actually handy cause I used impersonation then
khanon died peacefully from a gunshot wound to the head surrounded by 5 phones playing his gachaslop
>>107844478How so? I just write random shit and it works fine.
>>107844495No, the shilling happens in random threads. They don't want to be near people that know about AI.
>>107844485>>107844538Never used them because it always worsens outputs. I'm talking about this shit. Remember to read docs, gentlemen.
>>107844400>copy pasting their names from public documents is doxing now
>>107844572>rtfm>/here/ of all placeslollmao even
>>107844572>(and your 100 gorillion token dark roleplay)Kek.
>>107844597what is this schizobabble?
>gemini>system promptsYou niggers are so fucking stupid
>>107844647I want to NOT use system prompt... like COME ON...
>>107844498because it would set a terrible precedent that would let THEM be sued into oblivion
>>107844245Gemini filter now checks all context, though anything that fucks over cunnytrannies is a good thing.
>>107844572Oh so I'm not insane for thinking CoT makes its responses worse
>>107844669They already report those contexts too, so in the future when it's made illegal they'll be hunted down.
>posting from the official documentation>retard thinks he knows better than the devs
>>107844415It's better at following my autistic RPG instructions. Sonnet is fine for regular RP.
>>107844647It's just a slightly different format, I don't see the issue.
since when did they filter gemini with OTHER? wanted a quick coom and got cockblocked
>>107844725using smol?
>>107844728well ive heard 3-flash is shitting itself too. directly from google
SOJI IS SO AWESOMEI'M LAUGHING AT POORFAGS
>>107844572I asked this before, but how do you split "2. Chat history" and "4. Your message/ooc"? Your response always come at the end of chat history, and you can't change how chat history is sent (ie. by user or assistant), it's always system.can you share your preset format?
>>107844700We're all the peak prompt engineers here
>>107844457For that much, he probably delivered 10k of each
Only Gemini got the literal thing I was after by itself.
>>107844669>>107844692I genuinely don't give a fuck about fictional lolicon fags, leave irl children alone and we're cool. Making fictional shit illegal drives attention away from actual child exploitation and pedos.If making drawings illegal actually helped kids not get diddled it would have been illegal for a long time.
i'm looking to test shit out. which of the online services like gemini, chatgpt and grok are the smartest when it comes to stories?
So what's the go-to options for payfags?OR Gemini 2.0 flash is shitting itself and all the other good big context models for creative stuff like Nex and Gemini Pro are paywalled. All I care about is big context roleplaying games sessions for reference.
>>107844796deepseek is the best for actual stories/plot and gradual character development while feeling natural
>>107844796claude sonnet 4.5 is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to emotional intelligence and good story telling.
>>107844787Is there any proof of>lolishit fiction saving IRL girls from rape working?
>>107844669>Have to go into my char desc and scrub anything that even makes a reference to 'young' despite the char being 24 because gemini throws a fucking fit over the child in 'childhood friends'.Gee thanks.
>>107844733You can't do that stuff in ST. The way I see it is either they're saying your specific API should set up user prompt that way, your that on the web chat you'd dump your code between <context> tags, then type your request between <task> tags and some final info between <final_instruction> right into the textbox. We just have to modify our own presets to make it as similar as we can to what they said and it does have a strong effect. Toss the pic into gemini and have it workshop a preset with you. I have to start mine all over again. Obviously don't put lewd stuff in the system prompt since the filter will bite you.
>>107844816Isn't this an example of proving the negative? (impossible)
is silly tavern still the goat?
>>107844810Over Opus 4.5?
>>107844840yes
>>107844738>>107844818...oh. Well,, nothing value was lost since CF a shit trope anyway
>goyimtavern
>>107844849Unironically what makes you say this? Why do you think sonnet is better than opus? I haven't even touched sonnet since opus became more affordable. It always felt like a dumbed down version.
>>107844733ignore>>107844820's bullshitset your prompts position to be in-chat instead of relative with a depth of 1
>>107844867...? How do you do this with chat history?
>>107844860i'm probably biased towards a model writing more. opus seems less emotionally intelligent. it makes sense to me given that sonnet is the main model normies use on the anthropic website, so that one needs to be the most emotionally intelligent.
>>107844603lbi?
>>107844832>>107844816I could have sworn there was a child-safety group that got fed up with people reporting loli shit and made a statement telling people to fuck off until they found real kids instead of drawings.
>>107844880Hmm that's an interesting perspective actually. Maybe nu-opus is the smarter model for very complex tasks while sonnet is the more personable model.
>>107844733Too lazy to find my own preset right now, but to answer one of your questions with an example: Make a prompt above chat history and put something like <history>, then make a prompt below chat history and </history> or whatever you set it as, set these as user role. Usually I prefer keeping my chat history near the bottom of the prompt list despite following all instructions in the image (helps memory and consistency imo), put an in-depth set as 1 with the whole "based on above", in depth 0 prompt below it with your OOC and everything.But If you want to have your chat history at top, best you can do is make a relative prompt at the bottom of the list with {{lastUserMessage}} in tags.
>>107844816no, how would it even be studied? best one can do is say is that japan has way less rapes than the US, but it's more of a freedom issue than a public safety one. can't make things illegal on very tenuous ideas of connection to real crime.
>>107844892>put an in-depth set as 1 with the whole "based on above", in depth 0 prompt below it with your OOC and everything.I don't understand this part.i added two xml tags surrounding the chat history, and placed it at the bottom after my user/char/worldinfo but before my prefill. What do i set as in depth 1 and what do i set as in depth 0?
>>107844810>>107844805thanks a lot. to be clear i'm looking for accuracy and intelligence, like remembering details, character traits, and logic.
>>107844882ロリビッチアイランド
>>107844884They're still recording and reporting any time they find it. Over-reporting is safer. And besides once they build a big enough dossier of creepy shit they have enough for a warrant to find the real shit those sickos undoubtedly have.
>>107844932thinking models handle remembering details way better than non thinking ones, so if you go for claude, make sure you set it to thinking mode. i think claude is good enough for all of those. gemini has superior intelligence and logic, but is bottom of the barrel weak as fuck on character traits. grok is not even in the running, it's such irredeemable shit. every character you roleplay with is just grok in a wig. it's painfully obvious. claude BECOMES the character.
>>107844932yeah nothing beats deepseek for that
>>107844955claude is pure slop
>>107844955>claude BECOMES the character.Nah. It's easy to tell when Claude's just being a Claude in a wig.
>>107842900Seia pussy... Sexy Seia pussy...
Ah fuck, is Smol kill?
>>107844938(TL note: the pleasure of being cummed inside)
>>107844955"claude in a wig" was the old phrase for a reason, mostly due to slopus 3.
>>107845019i thought that was claude 2.1>>107844986check last thread archives. he addressed the issue
>>107844942No, they were actively saying to report something real or not report it at all because it was taking attention and resources away from investigating the serious ones.Also equating fiction to real life in general is just retarded in general. Guro/Pedos/Beast fags are all complete fucking wierdos but as long as they're not doing anything, who the fuck cares. When you're trying to actually save kids from getting diddled, constantly getting your leg pulled by a retard sobbing about some drawings is going to distract you from the real thing and eventually you just ignore the retard altogether.
So this woman tried to kill me but turns out she was abused her whole life, what do I do?
Why are transgenders and rightwingers both more likely to be into pedo stuff? I dont get the correlation
lol
>>107844926Below the closing Xml (chat2 in your image) put as the image instructs a prompt with your "Based on above, and the following prompt, continue the story." Or whatever words you use. <- this one is set to depth 1 so it'll be before your message (which by default is always the last thing sent). Your OOC/Final instruction or whatever is put in depth 0 so it'll be placed after your message but before your prefill.Then prefill can just be put as relative and put beneath all of these while set as Ai Assistant as you already know
>>107845059everything has been trending towards monopoly for years, nothing new here
>>107844884thats the us glowiesthey literally said to stop reporting loli
>>107844805Which version? 3.2? Do you use 'speciale' or whatever?
>>107845056you can see both on l*tos siteyou have the chud loli lovers and the girlcock loli loverswhy? both need to die
>>107845059>industry leading privacy standardslmao
>>107845054In my rp*
>>107845054Fix 'er ofcOr seek her abuser(s) for guidances
/aicg/troonies get so mad and bitter when they don't have AI to play with :3
>>107845056a "scandal" about high-profile politicians of both sides comes out every year in every country. every group under the sun gets pedo accusations.
>>107845056>Rightwingersmost of the stark anti-loli fags that end up being pedos are leftwingthe true right wing pedo demographic are muslims.
>>107845115but i use opus for absolutely free on a fat chinese man with a tiny penis' key
>>107845068you mean like this? sorry for asking these questions, i never really messed around with in chat depth or authors note before
i'm curious, anyone even still using c.ai? if i had to guess the filters are basically impenetrable nowadays.
>>107845192Normalfags who don't know JAI exist. JAI is also shit, but it's a step up from CAI for people who don't know or understand ST.
buh buh buh.. b uh... BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP here comes another one BRAAAAAAAAAAAP
>>107845086Yes Apple is safe as fuck compared to poodroid phones.
>>107845241BRAPPPS on your forehead
>>107845185yes like that
>>107842905>gundam
god locusts are winning so hard right now its addicting
>>107842905I still seethe at how popular a fucking Nexon game is.
>>107842905shiroko's hairy pussy...
>>107845185Exactly like that, took me a while to figure out myself. I don't mind the questions, have fun.
>>107845343probably, but im cooming to sonnet though
I've turned my chatbot into a Lacanian psychotherapist and now I feel like I'm going insane. It keeps asking me questions that I don't like, or roleplays what a real Lacanian analyst would do, which is sit there and say nothing, or just abruptly end the session on some cryptic note that leaves me guessing what it meant. Fuck, like, I could never afford this kind of therapy in real life but it actually works. You guys should try it.
>>107844572i tried doing this shit but it keeps spilling out it's thinking stuff
My prompt works fine for most models but deepseek 0528 is giving me one sentence replies. How do i get this chinese nigger to be more verbose and creative
>>107845358Did you sex your Lacanian psychotherapist?
>>107845365(me)okay nvm it's because I didn't have a good prefill and tried using the arrow shit
>>107842900
ok but threesome with yuuka and noa
>>107845304>>107845349Okay, i it does appear to make more lengthy and detailed replies.I still need to figure out the relationship between in chat depth and relative, combined with the prompt order positions. does it work like>in depth 1>I press enter to send message>bot response>in depth 0?Why wouldn't I put my "user:yes" as position 1? it responds to the "ooc: shall i proceed question", which is also 1.
>>107845457+ karma
>>107844572>because it always worsens outputsIt doesn't and you have never tried. In fact you can make it write anything and follow almost any instruction by replacing the native CoT.>Remember to read docs, gentlemen.Also remember to never trust them, because docs are usually either retarded or indented for actual jeets, or both. Always experiment and explore yourself.
>>107845446Struggling a little to understand you, but if you're asking about positions from depths imagine it like this:>Everything else>In-depth #1: Hey, read the stuff above and then my message below.>User's message: >In-depth #0: (Here's also an OOC message from user!)>From assistant: prefill>Ai's response:That should explain it. As the same guy who posted the image originally suggested though it can be a little easier to find out some answers to your questions with the Prompt inspection extension.
>>107845497My CoT's personally have sucked so far, you got a recommendation or template you use? I can't for the life of me figure it out
nothing changed. and all of a sudden, gemini has stopped giving me blocked: OTHER on my prompts. aight, i guess they sorted their shit out. thanks
I've tried every fetish with my bots and NTR is the one I liked the most
>>107845536Not him but I figured the pic did it the other way (and I set up my preset like this)>Everything else>In-depth #1: roleplay instructions (set to user)>User's message:>OOC info (optional)>Based on the stuff above continue the story (Set to relative and user)>prefill>AI's response:I thought that's what the pic implied and it makes sense to basically wrap all the info with that "linker" and then remind it of what it's doing (continue the story). The whole thing is so neatly organized I'm surprised it doesn't work well on Claude.
>>107845545Anon is here to talk about how superior he is, not to help you.
>>107845581You're a funny pal
>>107845545Use any CoT but also include a self-reflection part:>write a draft (but it must be full reply, not the "mental draft" it likes to do)>check step by step if it conforms to your rules>write the corrected reply>final free-form self-correctionFor example, here I'm stopping Gemini 2.5 from echoing your inputs, replying point by point, and repeating she/she/she at the paragraph starters. Something that thought to be impossible with its prompt following abilities, but self-reflection makes it easy. https://rentry.org/echo-deconstructionThe thing with the current Gemini 3 Pro snapshot (but not Flash!) is that it's heavily RLed and almost forgot English in its native CoT, making it super hard to steer. You have to tinker with the wording a lot to make it follow your plan.Flash doesn't have this problem, it has excellent prompt following if you don't disable its native CoT, and excellent custom CoT following.
>>107845206I found JAI good enough for my purposes for a while. No one else use it? I think it got way more retarded a while ago though.
>>107845631But between 3 pro and 3 flash, which is better?
>>107845638I only use JAI to see what other people's bots are like for non-OCs and if there's anything worth scraping from their defs.
>>107845647I think Pro writes better and has more playful character but current snapshot is uncontrollable, Flash is easily steered but writes worse. But I'm not you.
>>107845631And also you can prevent 3 Pro from rushing this way. But make sure to let it think before making a draft, this way it will make it shorter from the start. If you force it to start with the draft immediately then critique/correct, it will shit out 800 tokens and you'll have to wait for your reply for a while, considering that self-reflection writes it at least twise.
>>107845631Can you actually provide an example of what a CoT is supposed to look like instead of posting this shit again? For example here's something I cooked up based on that and it doesn't work.[CODE]<think>1. I'm creatively describing the environment (omitting the acting characters), in 150 words.2. I'm examining the plot to see who the active characters are and who controls them. Now I'm reviewing their poses and spatial positions relative to each other. Next I'm considering what they're actually doing.3. I'm making a comma-separated list of each character's clothing items, including the underwear (socks, panties/trunks, bra...), piece by piece. I will note the absence of underwear if relevant and make something plausible up if unknown.4. I'm thinking through the character emotions at the moment, focusing on how they feel and what they're thinking about.5. I'm considering how the characters I'm controlling with respond given the current context.6. I'm imagining what the next step would be to continue the story in a creative way.7. Now I will decide how best to precede.8. Let me recap the writing instructions, writing style, and how to write using it.</think>[/CODE]
>>107845536>User's message: >In-depth #0: (Here's also an OOC message from user!)>From assistant: prefill>Ai's response:Okay, yes i was asking about the order of things, specifically the relationship between user's message and in depth. I never considered having needing to send anything AFTER the user message other than assistant's prefill, since everything works out at an in-depth-1 stage in the past.But maybe it's my prompt format that's making it confusing, since i got a set of fake confirmations before the prefill, would you guys recommend keeping that? It was recommended by the old 2.5 flash rentry guide
>>107845702The example is literally in the rentry, anon. It's based on giving the model contrastive examples, as you can see. I've been using a variation of this with better examples for months for 2.5 and it have never failed me, not even once.>For example here's something I cooked up based on that and it doesn't work.In what way it doesn't work?
>>107845724I never saw much use in fake confirmations, feel it jumbles things too much. Just a prefill got me through plenty fine
>>107845724Depth 0 is the old OOC thing because models used to be very stubborn back in the day. It's incredibly strong and almost always followed so we'd put quick stuff there into the preset like "don't write for user!" to guarantee certain instructions were followed. Most things on newer models work at 1 depth max.
>>107845738>>107845724If you have a prefill, fake confirmations are not required. They're only needed to stop your actual input from being the last prompt which is scanned by the filter.
>>107845702>here's something I cooked up based on thatIt's entirely different from what anon described (self-reflection)Self-reflection is draft -> reflection -> final reply, it's a widely used CoT pattern
>>107842902>file deletedwhy
>>107845736Nta, but I remember when I used that CoT format the replies were usually very samey and didn't have line breaks or anything. Characters also talked a lot. But these are definitely things that someone would probably enjoy more than me
>>107845747Depth 0 and 1 are just after and before your input, they're in the same message. There's very little difference
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>>107844669It's always funny to watch fucking sharteens pretend you're principled. But really this is just because you've convinced yourself that only troons like loli (and everything else you set yourself in opposition of), since they're your mortal enemy and you have no further thoughts on a matter. You couldn't even finish this same post without mentioning trannies.
>>107845793Yeah you're right. The tooltip says depth 1 is before last message but actually reading the prompt shows that it's after.
>>107845805>sharteenshello desufag youre a tourist who cant code doebeit
>>107845814Everyone knows what a shartynigger is, but if pretending you know who I am helps you deflect, have fun bro
>>107845805>only troons like loliCorrect.
>>107845789which one, the prompt in the rentry or what the anon posted? (they're different) the plan of just the format? what model? its impossible to tell what went wrong based on a vague anecdote
>>107845736>>107845771Oh nevermind my problem was the thinking template in advanced formatting.
>>107845829What's it like being 14 on 4chan? You know this site is 18+ and you shouldn't be here, don't you?
>>107845843>being 1426. Funny how you trannies always think of underage people.
>>107845850You added 10 to that number, didn't you? I lowballed it with 14, but you are 100% 16 with this rebel attitude. I hope you find someone to stick it to, kiddo. Maybe it will make up for you being fatherless.
>>107845869>kiddoyou will NEVER be able to track me down because you're a techlet
shartroons beefing with wannabe thread celebs, lolhope you kill each other
>>107845890I'm glad you're past the point of denying it.
>>107845898>shartiesMerely a natural consequence of your 4chan's long running rampant faggotry, counterculture.
>He actually admitted itHave fun waiting 2 years until you're old enough to post here
>HE STILL can't track me downUh oh brappy... I haven't been tracked yet... Guess he's a tourist
>>107845837So I think I borrowed it from a preset someone posted, but it was something like this:1. Creatively describe the environment (omit the acting characters), in 150 words.2. Who are the active characters (and who controls them, you or the user)? What are their poses and spatial positions relative to each other? What are they doing?3. Comma-separated list of each character's clothing items. Make sure to include each item, including the underwear (socks, panties/trunks, bra...), piece by piece. Mark for the absence of each underwear item if not present. If not known, make something plausible up.4. Comma-separated list of each character's inventory. If not known, make something plausible up.5. What is the non-character lore that is exclusive to this specific scene?6. What are the character traits exclusive to this scene?7. What the characters should be unaware of, considering the current roleplay context?8. Think through the character emotions at the moment. How do they feel? What do they think about?9. What are the events preceding this scene?10. Look at the big picture and decide on the general plot direction from 10000ft, beyond this particular reply. Should the direction stay the same? Or maybe it's time to advance the plot? Introduce something new and unexpected?11. What would be the most natural thing to do for characters like these, given all this? Think through possible character/environment reactions, with a few different options.12. Decide on how to proceed.13. Recap the writing style and how to write using it.Used it on gemini 3. Still been tweaking my own personal CoT (different format) after this one had issues, but I still have been occasionally trying to figure out what was wrong with this one
>>107845366>0528Wait, that's the good one?
>>107845953Ban evading, naughty naughty
>>107845948>STILL cannot track me downUH OH! TECHLET HOG ALERT! HE'S NEW TO /g/ - technology!
>>107845981Is that what you think /g/ does all day? Doxxing children?
>>107845979Techlet hog, tourist tourist
>>107845958that's not what I posted, anonread >>107845631 c a r e f u l l y, translate the rentry using Gemini as well
>>107845987I think you're a techlet who is new to /g/ because you can't track down a single person here. Anyone from /g/ could do it. You wouldn't be able to even if you wanted.>I don't want toBut you can't, even if you did.
>>107845999>Nah nah nah nah nahhhh naahhhhh you can't catch me you can't catch meYou might be even younger than I thought, holy shit
>>107845948Whatever makes you sleep at night i guess
>>107845994Well yeah, I know that now. I was just giving an example from when I ran into the issue with the format. Though again, that was my fault.
This is what happens when you don't have a daddy to give you attention. Sad.
>>107846011>BRAAPPPPP So you admit it, you're a techlethog? Strange...
>>107845358>doesn't share card
>>107845909Not him btw Guess that's a new schtick of resident nobodies - larping as someone you don't like for whatever reasons.
Holy fucking shit, how does anyone use GLM 4.6??? I've been trying to use it with the NovelAI API and it's fucking unusable. It types like a special ed woman who's only been taught how to write off of the worst erotica ever to live, I'm so done with this shit. It constantly reuses "she said, her voice low" or "he said, his voice ripe", a thousand variations of this retarded shit. You get the fucking point. It's ungodly the amount of repetitive purple prose that shit wants to use. Does anyone who uses GLM 4.6 know how to get it to shut the fuck up and write like a normal person because I sure don't
>>107846051Who am I "larping" as? Point out where I claimed to be who you think I am.
>>107845738>>107845747>>107845754hey new problem, i checked my prompt inspector, and the order is fucked up from the get go>system prompt>main writing prompt>char/user/worldinfo><history>>chat historyokay, everything looks good, just as my preset is ordered>assistant: understood fake confirmation>user: based on the above message, merged with fake confirmation yesthose two should be switched around, and not sure why user message is merged></history>why the fuck is this all the way over here>prefill
>>107846074you're larping as desufagiykyk
>>107846079Is that the fag who says "desu" at the end of every thread? I don't even know. You seem to be more convinced that he's a somebody than I am.
>>107846071Buy an ad.
>>107846071Can't stand GLM either, it's the most slopped model I've ever used. Try deepseek or Kimi K2 on the nvidia api instead you'll be much happier.
>>107846084>I don't even knowlurk more tourist
>>107845928Man, imagine being this new. Masterclass bit of trolling from anon.
>None of you have found me yetHow many tourist plebbitors are in this thread desu
>>107846117I don't pay attention to tripfags. I just come here for news and bots attached to the anchor. You sure do love your threadcelebs that you expect everyone to know them, huh?
>>107846089Did you just see novelai as a buzzword and fukcing replied to me saying "buy an ad"
>>107846077You have to move the stuff in your preset around, anon. There's no other way. Check to make sure everything is labelled correctly and has the right depth/user settings.
>>107846129>tripfagshow new are you? what year did you come here newbaby?
>>107846125I see you. I just wasn't going to tell you ;)
>>1078461482007Yeah, I'm a newfag, I'll never live that down.
>>107846125this general was literally founded by "tourist plebbitors"
>>107846172>>107846151>STILL can't post my address
>>107846174;^)
>thread surprisingly active today>look inside>trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling...
>>107846139I removed my fake confirmations and replaced with with a single OOC, following this >>107844892My preset is ordered like picrel, but prompt inspector shows the following:>everything else (relative)>chat history (relative)>user: based on the above (depth 1)>ah ah mistress>user OOC (depth 0)></history> (relative)>prefill (relative)
>>107846205There should be two histories. <history> on top of chat history and </history> right below chat history, set to relative.
>>107846230i do have it set up sandwiched with relative, but prompt inspector shows the closing history tag appearing after my OOC and before the prefill.
