Why did apple kill x86? Why does apple hate x86 people? What do I do after x86 support ends with Tahoe?
>>107843545Because they realized that their customers are so fucking braindead that swapping expensive computer CPUs with cheaper cellphone CPUs was going to go unnoticed. It worked and confirmed that people really are that fucking stupid. They found the next iPhone cash cow and are beating the shit out of it.
>>107843577>with cheaper cellphone CPUsARM CPUs are actually pretty solid, but they really should have maintained x86 support on the software front. You never know what kind of cpus AMD or INTEL might come up with in the future.Also you should just kill yourself for phone posting while seething about ARM.
>>107843604At first they really weren't and there's nothing wrong with cheaper cellphone CPUs in phones, I'm not expecting my $100 phone to be able to play GTA V or do anything productive.My actual gripe is that when apple swapped the powerful x86 CPUs of that time (that could be paired with a dedicated external GPU btw) with cheaper cellphone CPUs, Apple computers remained exorbitantly expensive as always. So what actually ended up happening was abble pocketed the difference, got hella rich, and the nornalfaggots got scammed.
>>107843604forgot pictel. x86 emulation used to be INCREDIBLY dogshit on M1, even M2. It got okay with M3 and tolerable with M5.
>>107843545>Why did Apple abandon an architecture that struggles with high power consumption, heat generation and increasingly slower YOY gains?Because it's fucking shit for mobile devices. Besides Intel's repeated manufacturing delays and delivery schedules really fucked with apple's plans and performance targets. We got some super underwhelming Mac updates as a result.Apple Silicon was the best move Apple has made since the iPhone.I still think Apple are nigger taint connoisseurs for not doing better with backwards compatibility with x86 software.Also >>107843577, go take a bath stinky dumb Pajeet
>>107843664M4 PRO/MAX handles gayming well, but you are sliding the thread with unrelated seething and topic non related to discussion.This thread is not made for linux jeets, sorry. Go back to your android phone posting fag.
X86, even CISC is obsolete techRISC/ARM is the future anons>better performance per watt>mogged kektel and AMD in Laptop CPU performance>no noisy fans and thin build.
>>107843744>X86, even CISC is obsolete tech> RISC/ARM is the future anonsRISC is just CISC with parts cut off. The problem with x86 is that it's a 16-bit processor with thousands of pages of extensions bolted on instead of a clean design.
>>107843699>>107843707I'm agreeing that ARM got better over time you dumfuck iSheep. It's just that when the M1 came out, it was a complete fucking joke yet because iSheep are so brain dead they clapped and ate shit from their own hands. Of course Apple knew they couldn't keep up the illusion forever which is why they spent a lot of R&D into improving their cheap cellphone CPUs.Apple's cheap cellphone CPUs HAVE gotten better but arguably they're still cheap cellphone CPUs and only WE know this. The normalfaggot remains clueless about this scam.
>>107843744It should be cheaper. If companies are going to ditch expensive computer CPUs and replace them with cheap cellphone CPUs then the consumer should be getting like a 50% discount. That would be extremely fair. We're not seeing that though lol.
>>107843841It's interesting that linuxjeet still hasn't bounced back from the M1 launch. Just in case you missed it, it's 2026 now and we're already on M5.
>>107843707>M4 PRO/MAX handles gayming well,is this satire or are you actually serious.
>>107843841https://www.perarduaconsulting.com/post/comparing-gpu-performance-of-apple-m5-and-m5-pro-to-dedicated-gaming-graphics-cards>25 fps in cyberpunk on low settings
>>107843808Insight into the limited Pajeet mind>ARM is found in phones therefore it is a phone chipis one example of what you can hear from a dumbass Pajeet. If you want to fit in with them and join them in their shit flinging festivals you may say something along the lines of:>x86 is commonly found in routers therefore they are stupid router chipsYou may now enjoy the festivities with your fellow Pajeets
>>107844006you know that calling people pajeets doesnt change the fact that you purchased extremely over priced hardware that isnt very good for gaming. It seems to be very good at literally everything else, which is great, but its not very good at this 1 specific thing. You seem very insecure about that.
>>107843545They were already making phone/tablet chips, so it was the next logical step. Much easier to have software for just one CPU family instead of two.Also, Intel's endless flood of 14nm++++++++++ housefires was running too hot & hungry for Slopple's thin lapslops. You see, despite the name, the BigMcBook Air doesn't actually have air cooling. The Pro does, but once in a blue moon, someone tries using it for something more than doomscrolling - hard to believe, I know, but my uncle who works at Nintendo sez one time, he saw Bigfoot do it. So for both models, Intel housefires were becoming a problem.
>>107843966Grim but to be fair something like cyberpunk 2077 has tons of AVX2 optimizations which ARM will struggle with until they finally adopt 256-bit SVE but then again adopting that might hurt energy efficiency. I still think GTA V should be the go-to x86 emulation benchmark.>>107843921>>107844006How much is Apple paying you anyway?
>>107844033>How much is Apple paying you anyway?You know the answer, HE DOES IT FOR FREE
>>107844033But macs are not for gaming...
>>107843545Because ARM >>> x86The only reason people defends x86 is due to legacy reasons and are unwilling to change their habits. ARM is objectively better in every single way.
>>107844033I'm posting in an Apple thread. You intentionally came hereto paddle their overheating and archaic x86 trash. So, probably not as much as the x86 jews are paying you.
>>107844118see >>107843841But to be fair that is the older M1 turd. Can't find M5 results on openbenchmark yet.>inb4 "but muh apple approved gookbench!"
>>107843744aren't all modern x86 CPUs internally RISC and translate x86 instructions into uops?
>>107844128What is there to see? Useless benchmarks and schizo babbling about price out of his ass? The only metric that matters is performance per watts, that's where all the meaningful innovation comes from.
>>107844250But I didn't post gookbench which 90% of it's """CPU"""" score is based on how quickly Apple's H264/HEVC ASIC can hardware encode video. What I posted was a real world software video HEVC compression benchmark which bypasses the shitty hardware video encoding.
>>107843545apple sells laptops mostly as far as computers go. their aluminium chassis with the shit intel was pushing at the time made those laptops uncomfortably hot. blame intel.>>107843656the m1 was such a performance improvement. don't pretend like x86 was better in these laptops. intel laptops ran hot and used a lot of power.>>107843664fucking retard. the emulation was fine. the m5 gpu is much more powerful than the m1. that's the issue.>>107844033gaming benchmarks... why don't you compare something like a browser benchmark?
>>107844275I don't give a damn about your "real benchmarkâ˘" that nobody fucking uses in daily usage.
>>107844275what's wrong with the hardware encoder?
>>107843946not him but I got the MacBook Pro with the M4 Pro 14/20 chip and games were running pretty nice. >>107843577Microsofts surface laptops use ARM chips too
>>107844155>aren't all modern x86 CPUs internally RISC and translate x86 instructions into uops?The original 8086 was too.https://www.righto.com/2022/11/how-8086-processors-microcode-engine.html
>>107844319You get infinity speed but it comes at the cost of terrible compression efficiency.
>>107843545Because Intel did what Apple wanted only last year with Lunar Lake. It was easier to ditch them and go with something different. Also it's something different for a consumer. 5 years later and there's still no ARM competitor on a PC market. Nobody should care what's under the hood. It works, it fast and responsive, cold and have a huge battery life.
>>107844033How are people running it at like 50 FPS on M4?
>>107844033>>107844369those are bullshit numberseven my 5600H + 3060 laptop gets 60 FPS with medium settings at 1080p
>>107844369Native resolution is 540p + fake frame gen.
>>107844383>fake frame gen.Nah those were unmodded games before FSR FG was available for CP2077
>>107843604>>107843707>>107843744>>107844006>>107844118street shit harder iJeet
>>107843707>SAAAAAAAAAAARS PLES SPENDING $5000 ON APEL POO MAX TO GET $50 NVIDIA PERFORMANC SAAAAAAARS
>>107843744>>better performance per wattstreet shit harder ijeet
>>107843744>>no noisy fans and thin build.>burns your house down
>>107844118do the needful pajeet
>>107844326it's risc?
>>107844740You know what? Do your thing, Rajesh. You were born in India. That's a fate worse than being born a nigger. I'd probably do the same shit in your shoes.
>>107844822You know what? Do your thing, Rajesh. You were born in India. That's a fate worse than being born a nigger. I'd probably do the same shit in your shoes defeding your currynigger corp for 2 rupees a day.
>>107844383My m1 air can run cyberpunk at 720p at ~30 fps.
