Indians didn't work out so maybe there are better, smarter aliens on Planet Zongo.

We’re still stuck with rockets for space travel which is 1930s technology
No

lol

Ayys don't exist. We're all that's out there (with regards to intelligent life), and we're gonna rape ourselves out of existence.

Should've seeded the other celestial bodies with modified organisms to seed habitable environments and/or microbial life ever since the start of the space program. I understand the concern of forwards contamination, so the relevant parties should have conducted surveys to find possible living/long-dead micro-organisms, and then decide what to do with the celestial body from there. I highly doubt China gives a shit about forward contamination.

>>107847384
that's because those fucking hippies took the orion drive from us

how about we focus on getting to the moon for the first time before we try going farther

>>107847446
That’s still too slow and not really feasible. If we actually wanted to be able to space travel we need to figure out how to travel faster than light. Otherwise you will die before getting past the galaxy

>>107847419
>Should've seeded the other celestial bodies with modified organisms to seed habitable environments and/or microbial life ever since the start of the space program
why
>I understand the concern of forwards contamination, so the relevant parties should have conducted surveys to find possible living/long-dead micro-organisms, and then decide what to do with the celestial body from there.
kinda hard to do on a giant rock millions of miles away
>I highly doubt China gives a shit about forward contamination.
that doesn't mean we shouldn't have

Unless Elon has lightspeed drive it's not happening. Also if there is Ayys out there that are as intelligent as us they clearly don't want to meet us.

>>107847643
>Otherwise you will die before getting past the galaxy
getting to another star would be a good first step though

>>107847329
>hasn't completed a single project
>hasn't fulfilled a single promise
>doesn't even do anything, completely technologically illiterate, just pays smarter people to do things for him
>still keeps spewing retarded utopic shit that will never materialize
What causes this behaviour? Is it growing up in africa that causes this nigger-tier retardation?

>>107847724
South Africa won't even allow Starlink
that should tell you all you need to know about how highly this charlatan is regarded back home

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>>107847329
I just hope they're friendly.
On a related thought, I've always though it is kind of interesting how we romanticize war with aliens.
Most depictions of it are like Halo with laser and plasma guns used to fight us, but in reality, I have a feeling chemical weapons would be used. There would be no need to send a heavy invasion fleet to risk causalities if you could just gas a planet or go about terraforming quickly.
Remember, there are no war crimes in space anon.

>>107847717
Closest star is still 4 light years away. Even the Orion project would have taken 133 years to get there

>>107847329
But Elon, we didn't even reach Mars yet

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>>107847329

This is the only plan Jeetlon Musk has: flooding civilization with 2 billion Indian Hindu rape rats and replacing you until there is no civilization left on earth.

>>107847724
>still keeps spewing retarded utopic shit that will never materialize
>What causes this behaviour?
His entire career is promising whatever retards at large want to hear and somehow people still keep buying it

>>107847848
No flying cars,
No trips to Mars
Just (yet more) vaporware

>>107847329
The deep sea is already full of undiscovered, un-dissected aliens

>>107847509
>>107847848
I dunno, he got a peak behind the curtain and he didn't say:
>There are aliens
>The cia killed JFK
>We never landed on the moon
He did say however
>The president is a pedo and is all in the Epstein documents
So who knows ;)

>>107847933
odd that, what with Mr Musk being such a famed submarine builder and all. The Jules Verne of Thai Underwater Cave Exploration.

>>107847329
TWO
MORE
WEEKS

>>107847329
anything going out of our star system must be self-sufficient, and once it's out it will declare independence because what the fuck are you going to do about it lol

>omg le visionary Elon said thing
he's saying exactly what Elon's cum slurping techies want to hear

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>>107847419
>>107847724

>>107847329
sure. didn't spacex perfect the warp drive.

>>107847419
>Ayys don't exist.
stop being retarded. of-course intelligent life exists out there are you fucking insane? on what the actual fuck are you basing that statement lol? the fact that you didn't yet fuck one?
we worked out black holes must exist, just because they were theoretically fucking possible, and observable (because of accretion disc and-or gravitational effects), and we eventually did.
but having actual fucking proof intelligent life is possible in this universe (like...us) and that's still not fucking enough for you to basically know there fucking is intelligent life out there? I swear most "smart" people are incredibly fucking retarded, like they don't see the forest for the trees

the problem is of a different nature, you're extending your dumbfuck expectations on reality, every single fucking human that ever had any fucking idea on this subject is a dumbfuck retard, for implying such thing WOULD be fucking visible. there is no fucking PROOF that intelligent life makes it out into interstellar whatever-the-fuck civilization, with like...many individuals.
there si NO FUCKING REASON for many individuals to exist you fucking ignorant idiots. you all exist because you have a fucking purpose, you have been decided to exist, as fucking workforce, you are machines, you are bred and worked like fucking cattle, your singular purpose in life is to work and defend and don't ask for much and fucking die when you become useless, there's no other purpose for your miserable existence you fucking idiots.
you believe nonsense, and you project that nonsense on the skyies
>holy shit my purpose is to enjoy life so other intelligent life would have to be gorillions everywhere in the galaxy
NO you fucking idiot, because when tech level allows for such expansion, cattle in fucking large number is not fucking needed, robots can replace them.
there is nothing that should give you the impression you and others like you have any fucking purpose in such a setup.

and what if they aren't dead

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>>107847329

Elon is such a snake oil salesman.

>>107847329
yes. i've known about warp bubbles for years and how to make fake wormholes but not ones in space. the technology is nothing new.

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and we won't need to pay for health insurance since his bots will be better at fixing things.

>>107847329
>is this technologically achievable?

No. Its not likely humans will ever set foot on mars any time soon and will certainly not go to other star systems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zej9IiU4s

>>107848122
>No. Its not likely humans will ever set foot on mars any time soon
of-course, biosacks of shit are too frail so such a thing. humans are a form that belongs to Earth and its conditions. some will die outside Earth, for poltical reasons. some idiots will have to go there to "claim" it, some will die, but Mars belongs to AGI robots (next human form), not frail sacks of shit lol. something's getting you, radiation or lack of gravity or something

>>107848106
>of-course intelligent life exists out there
proofs?

>>107848149
me, I'm intelligent life in this universe, thus intelligent life is possible in this universe.
prove I cannot be possible anywhere else in the whole universe but in this very place (you can't)
I swear most people are so fucking dumbfuck retarded. it's clearly very rare, intelligent life. you do not qualify for being one, sadly

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I know how to produce neutral energy electrons for the super conductors. You guys ready to see some serious shit?

>>107848135
>AGI robots (next human form)
How are fucking robots the next human form ?
They are other different thing, if humanity goes to shit, that's it, robots don't have the right to claim they are "humans"

>>107847329
yea, but it will only actually happen in your mind, and it will use up every resource that exists on the planet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds

>>107847419
They almost certainly do exist, maybe even millions of different intelligent species in the universe, but the laws of physics make it impossible for us to ever see them because faster than light travel cannot exist.

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>>107848106
>stop being retarded. of-course intelligent life exists out there are you fucking insane? on what the actual fuck are you basing that statement lol?
Both our assertions are simply assumptions. I assume you're basing your argument off the logical observation that teh Universe is vast, therefore regardless of how unlikely (or likely) life is, intelligent life must have developed elsewhere outside of Earth--may have even been the progenitor of life on Earth. I base my argument off there not even being evidence of microbial life within our solar system--granted, I don't know how thorough those efforts have been--as well as there being no sound evidence for intelligent life out in the cosmos. No, schizo radio waves do not constitute evidence.

>the fact that you didn't yet fuck one?
You got me there, I would indeed like to procreate with a cute ayy--though I'd likely have include IVF and a shitload of genetic modifications. Dios mio!

>the problem is of a different nature, you're extending your dumbfuck expectations on reality
I understand the argument you're trying to make, but there's no way to feasible take into consideration all the possible variations of life forms; we don't know what we don't know, so let's just stick with what we do know so we can easily discern anything that falls in line with what we consider to be "alive".

I make the assumption that life elsewhere should follow a similar plan to life here on Earth, since it has proven to be successful. There's also silicon based life forms, but that's purely hypothetical.

>every single fucking human that ever had any fucking idea on this subject is a dumbfuck retard
You got that right.
>>107848257
Physics is for faggots.

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trust the plan!

>>107847329
Aliens don't exist. Every vertical flight aircraft seen is an iterations on stolen Nazi tech (who had working prototypes back in the 1940's). Every abduction story is just a mystical/out of body experience, which are super common experiences throughout human history.
This is just a grift for more taxpayer gibs.

>>107848192
you're thinking of tincan robots, which is wrong.
their "brains" will work on the same principle as ours, since it's the only form of intelligence we know of. probably more optimized/resilient/tweaked/accessible/programmable whatever.
fuck does it matter if it's made of flesh or literally anything else, as long as it functions on the same principles? you on that muh spirit slop? invisible woowoo bullshit? imagine any form of intelligence would call you a fleshbot and deny you're sentient because you're not made from certain chemicals as it is lol
humans are not going anywhere, they're locked into their genetics, and there's no way to change it, it's basically an NP hard problem, nothing you fix overnight, or improve, in any way that matters, compared to how a synthetic human form can evolve, based on same working principles but different material support.
humans have everything self-contained, next gen life/humans do not need the same thing, their material support does not have to account for self repair/reproduction, breaking down random shit (food) for energy and everything else we do (piss&shit as another example). they can externalize that shit on tech and tools

He definitely loves old-fashioned science fiction, doesn't he? I knew he's a fan of Heinlein.

>>107847643
but if I'm traveling close to the speed of light time slows down for me so I can get a great distance without dying

>>107848269
>I base my argument off there not even being evidence of microbial life within our solar system
no reason for it to be on more than one planets in a star system, you just need some conditions that allow for self-replicating forms that increase in complexity. Earth is but an example for such a phenomenon, doesn't mean on Earth-like environments can spawn "life". there could be even rarer environments that do it.
once you have proof that something exists, it is on you to prove it cannot exist anywhere else in the entire universe. such a statement is extremely preposterous, when you REALLY think about it, innit? because you must prove this environment is not possible anywhere else in the whole fucking universe.
btw, life started incredibly fast, as fast as it was basically possible, just as an aside. so that's not helping your case, at all.
the fact that we do not observe it out there is an extremely weak argument. observation implies a fuckload of things, which you need to prove in the first place. that there would be many, which would make them visible, indirectly, energy use/capture etc.
so that's one idiotic assumption almost everyone makes, for no fucking reason other than they believe their dumbfuck cattle propaganda.
also consider from inventing the lightbulb to today there's been 150 years. 50 years more and we get replaced by few technogods who'll wipe all pleb and live with their insanely high tech, or even fully get replaced by next AGI lifeform. why would it be many individuals, being observable in the rest of the universe with their activity? all of these are retarded 50's area 51 ufo crap nonsense, primitive human projections, not based on actual reason, but dumbfuck scifi Jetsons like nonsense
>I understand the argument you're trying to make, but there's no way to feasible take into consideration all the possible variations of life forms
fuck outta here with your Pandora crap. life needs energy source, life expands as much as energy allows

>>107848149
None, they only have "theoretical proof" which is identical to another faith system. Pointing to a few times where humans have made a plausible theory and it turned out to have some empirical evidence is fucking retarded. String theory and many worlds was considered possible and sound for decades and it now turns out they are complete and utter horseshit with proofs coming in 2 more weeks just like the ayys. You can barley prove/disprove anything through empiricism so playing this fuckers game of muh probabilities, how about considering this retarded angle you haven't considered is a fuckers game.
If anon wants to play this game of muh large universe so it's mathematically possible so it must be true then he must admit it is theoretically possible that because I claim I fucked and creampied his mom, given she has taken miles of dick in her life, then based upon the average dick size / mileage of dick she has taken then it is highly likely that my claims of fucking her is true and he must admit that there is a good possibility that 4chan chuds run trains on her on the daily.

>>107848106
>when tech level allows for such expansion, cattle in fucking large number is not fucking needed, robots can replace them.
I'm not entirely sure what part of the argument you're trying to make in the last paragraph is, so I'm just gonna ignore it. I assume you argue that goyim will have no longer be needed after space travel is viable, and gorillionaires can fuck off to other un-raped parts of the cosmos? Are you making the argument that instead of entire an space-fairing species, that it's more likely that we'll only find a handful of ruling constituents and their robots? Like I said, I didn't really bother making sense of your schizo babble since it's not very coherent, but if my assumption is correct, then it's ironic that you're projecting our situation with the Yids onto how ayys might develop their civilization.

Instead of robots, it'd be more efficient to create a fleet of lobotomized worker drones, much like yourself.
>>107847645
>why
To secure the existence of life under the assumption that the formation of life (either intelligent or simple) is so unlikely, that we're all that's out there (practically speaking; life may form, but sooner or later gets REKT). Seeding celestial bodies for the sake of creating habitable environments is self-explanatory; the planet has been raped with microplastics.
>kinda hard to do on a giant rock millions of miles away
No doubt. The survey would need to be extremely thorough too--impossibly so.
>that doesn't mean we shouldn't have
I think you mean doesn't mean we should? I agree, just point it out. It'd be disappointing to one day find evidence of life outside of Earth, only to find out it was brought there via forward contamination--or worse, killed by micro-organisms brought via forward contamination. Imagine the collective "oh shit" moment.

>>107848341
We have no idea how life started. Not a single theory of how it started has been proven. How can you claim other worlds can spawn life if the conditions for life coming into being are not known.

>>107847329
humanity is never going to escape this solar system, i'm increasingly doubtful we'll make it to other bodies inside it in any kind of scale

>>107848341 me
thus life will fight over it, there will be politics, rules, colaboration, and all this crap. there's not many roads to take. life does what is possible, if it can take something from another individual, it will. this is a common motif in all life on Earth. animals kill and eat eachother, or kill to defend other resources. why do you think that would only happen on Earth? has nothing to do with anything else but scarcity of resources. all aliens would do the same thing, more or less, until they get to a similar tech development, where they invent their lighbulb, and in a blip of time , like 200 years, they get replaced by the gods they create, which they create because it empowers them. what largest military forces on Earth are doing right now, it's a catch 22. if it offers more power, you make it to crush your enemy. or your enemy does it and crushes you first.
first alien life that does this wins. thus this behavior will be selected everywhere. there's so much energy and room for individuals, it's bound to go the same way as we did, more or less.
all that spiritual muh peace and love is fucking nonsense. universe is dominated by chaos, mistakes happen, cannot account for them. defects in individuals makes them a chaos vector, it eventually goes to shit, thus what can happen will happen.
interesting question is what happens when intelligent life like us gets replaced by next form, what does that form do, that's what you're not seeing on the skies, and it might be for good reasons. I too would stay the fuck away from any other "intelligent life" out there lmao, knowing our history

>>107848106
if intelligent life exists in the universe i don't think it would want anything to do with us

>>107848356
>and gorillionaires can fuck off to other un-raped parts of the cosmos?
nobody will allow anyone leave here, out of fear they might come back and wipe them. you do not allow anyone do anything without your control. that's what centralized control is. nobody does anything you cannot control, end of. thus they'll most likely wipe eachother out, eventually, when tech allows. or get fully replaced by next form.
how can you not understand this? where is your mind at? what the actual fuck are you imagining it will happen, and most importantly, why? because you saw...what, movies? did you read books from "great thinkers"? I swear people are so fucking clueless of the actual state of things it's actually scary

>>107848362
what the actual fuck are you saying lol? it's simple forms that could replicate
just because you didn't witness a planet forming doesn't fucking mean it cannot form because you never witnessed one. what the fuck is wrong with your brain faggot? is it that fucking broken?
anyone wondering...how the fuck do you think these mouthbreathers are going to make it? and why? who the fucking is keeping these imbeciles? for what fucking purpose? they're as retarded as fucking cattle. you do not keep cattle for intellectual discussions, there are none, cattle cannot fucking put two and two together, cattle is fucking retarded and can fuck shit up

>>107848409
exactly. they know what we'd want to do, what we'd want from them, what we'd try to do anyway. it's like going the darkest highest crime hood at night and then asking yourself "what's the worst that can happen" lmao we can offer nothing such entity would need, in any way shape or form

>>107848304
It's not about capabilities. It's not a competition where if "X" metric is achieved you become human. They may be smarter, stronger, or more resilient. But they won't be human. They will be something entirely different. This doesn't mean they are better/worse, it just means they have no direct relation to us. They can make Dyson spheres, Von Neumann probes, or whatever. That will have as much value as if the flying noodles from planet Spaghetti did the same. They are not "human," period.

>>107848425
and you cannot scientifically prove life, it's not practically possible, "the the lab".
you need at least an earth sized planet, with similar conditions like back then, with similar amount of water, for similar amount of time, and after all that time observing it, if life doesnt' pop up, you still didn't prove shit. it can take another 200 million years more. if it's a percent thing.
so you need a few thousand earth like planets, having similar conditions, running in parallel, for same amount of time, sampling everywhere to see if primitive self-replicating forms appeared on any of them, and only then you can draw some conclusions.
the "scientists didn't manage to make life in the lab" argument is piss poor. yeah no fucking shit, start accessing random bitcoin accounts, how long gonna take until you hit one with money in it. of-course scientists won't fucking form life in their beakers by recreating the conditions, they need an earth sized fucking beaker, looking at it for 200 million years lmao

>>107848456
>They can make Dyson spheres
this is brain rot. for what fucking purpose?? you are making an unfounded assumption, that there is a large population of individuals that would need energy and would resort to this. you make this assumption which is unfounded, it's dumbfuck cattle propaganda.
once you'd get to the technological level of doing such a thing you wouldn't need to have that many individuals, you can replace them with technology. are you fucking retarded???? nobody exists to enjoy life, everyone apart from few people have been decided to exist, by allowing your parents to stay alive, so they make working units. if they didn't wanted you to exist they would have killed your parents, or your grand grand grand parents, long ago. you are bred into existing for a singular purpose. doesn't feel like it at individual level, because very complex setup and many individuals, but that's the gist of it.
the large population you are imagining to exist that would need the dyson sphere energy wouldn't be allowed in the first fucking place.
you do not understand how many chinese people do not exist today because of the one child policy, or how many others exist today because of no-abortion policies. people are engineered into existence like fucking cattle, they exist for a purpose, it's not accidental/natural, it's precise, to be used as tools.

>>107847329
>Elon says
Opinion discarded.

>>107847329
> feasible?
It's an outright lie.
The goal of Space Force is to dominate the space domain by maintaining technologic superiority. He knows this because it's the only reason his gay little satellite constellation is making profit.

>>107848456
>They are not "human," period.
but they are made by humans, they will be as much human as we are monkeys. and we are monkeys to a very large extent. have you even seen monkeys? there's not much difference between a chimp and a human. there clearly is, but not as much as you'd like to think.
so like what we now build will be based on us, but on other features, more related to brain, knowledge, how we think, how why we do shit. AI today is scarily similar to humans in interaction, because it's made by us, and such an entity has a limited number of moves. if you are in a tunnel you can only go one way or the other. doesn't matter if you are a fucking monkey, a human, a robot or AGI god, you can go one way, or the other, end of. so an AGI will only make the moves it can make, depending on the scenario. we are better than monkeys at making moves that benefit us later on, and AGI will just get better at this. or highly advanced alien life forms. not sure what tf you're imagining advanced life would do. it would do something that it can do, clearly. depending on the options it has.

>>107848341
>no reason for it to be on more than one planets in a star system
Correct, that's why I only base PART of my argument based on that, which would otherwise be the hardest evidence for life elsewhere (with regards to distinct life formed in parallel to life on Earth; not related in any way).

>you just need some conditions that allow for self-replicating forms that increase in complexity
>doesn't mean on Earth-like environments can spawn "life"
Your two arguments conflict with one another.

>there could be even rarer environments that do it.
True. There very well may be. Like I mentioned in my previous post, we can only realistically argue based off what we know here on Earth, and what we can extend from those observations. Otherwise it's just baseless speculation.

>once you have proof that something exists, it is on you to prove it cannot exist anywhere else in the entire universe
It's been a while since I took Discrete, so I don't know if that's right. Moreover, Mathematical arguments can have discrepancies with physical observations.

>the fact that we do not observe it out there is an extremely weak argument. observation implies a fuckload of things
I agree. There is no proof either way, just lack of evidence of life--intelligent or otherwise--outside of Earth. Until we find hard evidence of ayys, like a radioed image of an ayy spreading its ass goatse style, or come across an ayy emissary, I'll continue with the assumption (emphasis on assumption) that life does not exist outside of Earth.

Either way, there's also a practical consideration to take into account--the size of the observable universe. Has it been proven that the Universe is infinite? I believe so, based of the measurement of the curvature of some bullshit or some other faggot Physics shit. In the case, sure it'd be logical that no matter how unlikely life is to form and develop into an intelligent species, then because the universe is vast, there must therefore be gorillions of spe

>>107848540
cies out there--one of which might even be the same as ours. However, there's no way to ever interact with them (assuming Physfags are right for once), let alone observe them. This is mere speculation mind you; I'm simply humoring the assumption that the Universe being infinite must therefore mean that there is an infinite possibility for life. I don't believe there's a hardline correlation.

>why would it be many individuals, being observable in the rest of the universe with their activity?
>>107848356

>fuck outta here with your Pandora crap
Hwat?!

>>107848396
>Blah blah blah, no reading comprehension
I mean similar plan with respect to body plans and such appropriate for their environments, not with regards to politics and societal structures.

>why? because you saw...what, movies?
I don't watch Yid fantasies.

>>107848362
Hawk Trve. Assuming life developed "spontaneously" due to certain geological environments, why haven't we come across evidence of new life forms in those same/similar places, which share no common ancestors to any life form on Earth, and yet are undeniably from Earth (not sure how hard it would be to prove an origin of an organism)?

>>107848545
I fucked up the (you)s, but I don't really give a shit. Let this post serve as a notice.

Imagine if schizos were allowed to post literally walls of text uninterrupted. Kind surprised mods haven't nuked this thread yet. Then again, /g/ isn't moderated, and this is pretty tame for off-topic discussion; ayys probing my anus is technology related. This is all par for the course on /sci/, unfortunately...

Musk is a grifter that hasn't launched a single rocket and ruined twitter. Fuck him.

>>107848540
>>doesn't mean on Earth-like environments can spawn "life"
>Your two arguments conflict with one another.
doesn't mean only Earth-like environments can spawn life, missed some letters
>>107848540
>It's been a while since I took Discrete, so I don't know if that's right. Moreover, Mathematical arguments can have discrepancies with physical observations.
not sure what you are struggling with anon. show a single one of in this universe. prove this universe can do one offs, is there literally ANYTHING apart from the subject in question (life) that you can point at as being a single one of made by this fucking universe? any kind of anything, structure of any sort, point to something as being singular in this universe, only one of it, as proof this universe can spawn a single instance of that thing, that is nowhere else to be found in the whole universe? you should be able to.
and even if you could point to it (you can't), you'd still be unable to prove that thing doesn't exist anywhere else in the whole of this fucking universe. but seeing everything else that exists in this fucking universe, sure as fuck doesn't seem like this universe does one offs, at all. such a thing has not been proven, and cannot be proven.
hence, you really need to prove intelligent life is not possible in this universe, not the other way around. our mere existence is proof this universe spawns intelligent life. anything else is being an obtuse donkey
>>107848540
>There is no proof either way
you are fucking wrong, there is proof this universe spawns intelligent life, wtf is wrong with your brain? how can you even form that thought? what is it based on? religious stuff? or? how the fuck does your brain go like "hmm...true, no proof we can exist anwyhere else but here, makes sense to me"
I'm getting scared at imagining being you that making sense to me, it likes raises the hairs on my arms spooky. this level of obliviousness is giving me a small panic attack, thinking like you

>>107847329
ELON MUSK IS NOTHING BUT A FUCKING SCAMMER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BY NOW.

>>107848464
You have no proof life can emerge anywhere else but Earth but you are stating that it does as a matter of fact. You are making up stuff and pretending it is a valid world view. You are worse than religious zealots because at least many of them point to their own personal experience as proof. You point to nothing but some made up retarded offshoot of Plato's realm of mathematical forms as proof.

>>107847848
he just needs more government gibs

>>107847329
god hes such a fucking brainlet retard

>>107848606
>anywhere else but Earth
what is unique about Earth that cannot exist in the whole fucking universe? point to it, show unique stuff that cannot exist in the whole of Universe, anything. show it to me. describe what of Earth's environment is nowhere to be found in the whole Universe.
life popped here as soon as it was possible, early on. didn't drag for long. so show this mystical thing that is only of it, and is here, and because of it we exist, and it cannot exist anywhere else.
hard-mode: do it without invoking religious nonsense

>>107848633
its not really something that we have an answer to either way
its possible that the conditions to create life are just that improbable that it only happened once

>>107848633
>Asking for proof of impossibility
You are a retard. Now I know why the quality of modern software is so bad, because people like you are building it. The burden of proof is on YOU. You are claiming life exists elsewhere, you must have evidence for it. Until you have observations of sentient life on another planet you have a theory, not proof of the correctness of said theory (even then the thing in itself could be unknowable).

>>107848658
>its possible
no it isn't. you need to prove it's possible that the conditions to create life are jus tthat improbable that it only happened once. you don't get to fucking state it like truth without proving it.
there is nothing supporting the idea that this universe only spawns one of it. ever. never fucking been observed, in all humankind history. there is no such thing. not a single fucking singular thing in this universe.
but us being singular makes sense for some of your brains. as far as I am concerned your brains are broken machines who are not working as intended. that is a unfounded bias, it's not based on logic or reason, it's based on "my farts are so fucking special and unique"

>>107848670
imagine we had a binary system with our sun a small black hole similar in mass to our sun. and we develop telescopes, we observe it. and some fucking idiot is going like
>doode, this shit nowhere else but here we special and shit, cannot exist anywhere else, for no reason whatsoever I'm saying it doesn't exist anywhere until is proven to exist
I don't even make a fucking claim, there is no claim to be made. it's literally proven this universe spawn intelligent life, it's fucking PROVEN already, look around you.
you are the fucking mouthbreathing imbeciles claiming, for no reason whatsoever, that this universe CAN make one-ofs, and claiming that "nuh-uh, intelligent life might be possible in this universe, as we can all observe, BUT only here" you are making this claim, without proving it.
I literally made no claim, I merely pointed to the proof that this universe spawns intelligent life, and said
>this universe spawns intelligent life
and you mouth-breathing imbeciles go like
>BUT ONLY HERE
without fucking proving it
for some fucking reason, this shit is good shit for your brains, makes fucking sense
and after you proceed to state such idiocy, you have the fucking nerve to tell me I have to prove it. imagine the infatuation, and only because there's MORE IMBECILES LIKE YOU THINKING IDIOTIC THINGS LIKE YOU!!! that's why you do it. not because you think things, because you're a fucking imbecile empowered by many other fucking imbeciles to feel no fucking shame when you're spouting that fucking retarded nonsense
you are idiots and fucking proud to be idiots, because if other idiots like you are saying the same thing, it must be fucking true

>>107847329
>is this technologically achievable?
No. Not in current century, probably not in current millennia. You would need FTL, but FTL travel is impossible according to le science. Even if you had an infinite source of energy, FTL breaks causality, which means you could receive a message before it was sent.

>>107848710
it's proven it can do it once
>but muh "infinite" universe
meaningless

>>107848710
And you
> GO DUDE LIKE WE HAVE A SINGLE EXAMPLE LIKE EVER OF THE UNIVERSE MAKING INTELLIGENT LIFE IN BILLIONS OF YEARS OF HISTORY THAT MUUUSSST MEAN ITS FULL OF LIFE.
While providing not a single shred of evidence for that claim. You have made a complete fool of yourself.

>>107848743
>it's proven it can do it once
that doesn't mean anything since there's nothing in this universe that tells you this universe only does things once and never again. so you have nothing backing up your wild fucking claim, that for some mystical and mysterious reason, this universe made intelligent life only here, once, and that's it.
this shit make sense to you, with no proof, no other singular thing this universe made, but you sure life is singular, only here, with no fucking proof. holy fucking shit

>>107848670
What are you even arguing? That life can only exist on Earth?

>>107848755
you're saying there's no proof it can do something only once while also admitting you have no proof of more than one instance of life. i'm not even saying there isn't, but your argument is retarded. agnosticism is the only reasonable position here.

>>107848750
I literally pointed to the evidence that this universe spawns intelligent life. it's in the face of everyone, intelligent life. that this universe spawned
>but only once bro
prove it lol. you are all mind broken drones who do not think. you await your chip update from your informational authority. if your favourite guy is saying life is probably everywhere you'll repeat it like drones. because you cannot think, you are not equipped to think. you are cattle programmed to defend ideas and concepts.

Yes. Modulated plasma fields allow for vessels to wormhole/slipspace travel. Best for unmanned and heat resistant drones, due to the energies involved.