Mint devs, if you're reading this, please update your ISOs asap! I want to do a fresh install of 22.3 but the ones on the ISO download section are still on 22.2! Please hurry!

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I made a 4chan browser for Emacs. It's now on github:
https://github.com/eNotchy/4g

tell me if something doesn't work.

>>107851299
My steam crashes after exiting Arc Raiders, this started happening after I forced Arc to run proton-GE-28, steam is in proton 10.4. Anyone else got this issue?

Why is Gnome's default image viewer so much slower to open compared to gthumb?

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>>107851349
For me, it's nomacs - Image Lounge.

>>107851339
How do I order Big Macs thru Emacs?

I was reading about zswap and from what i understand, it should basically be already enabled by default and will do its job when it needs to?

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I inform you with great regret that I'm done tinkering with Linux. Everything finally runs as it should and is customized the way I want. It's so boring now. For weeks I tried to think of small improvements to keep going and today I fixed the final issue I had.

>>107851395
not gtk, so not for me.

>>107851432
Now you're ready to create your own distro. Good luck on your new adventure, anon!

>>107851432
now start creating a 4chan browser in gtk4

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Is there a simple way to force date to always return a future date? If I use

date -d 10am

, it should return the next time it's 10am rather than only 10am today (which may be in the past).

Thinking of installing Fedora Kinoite on my dad's decade-old PC (i5-4570, no dGPU, 12GB RAM, SSD) that he only uses for web browsing and Worms Armageddon.
Any other distro suggestions or should this be good? Mainly I want to make sure it auto-updates and doesn't break on updates to make sure I won't have him calling me to troubleshoot. Never tried immutable distros myself outside of a few hours with Bazzite.

>>107851339
pardon my ignorance, but whats the appeal of emacs? its a terminal/environment where you can do about everything? but why not separate different tasks between different softwares.
>>107851395
i like the interface, does it supports jxl out of the box? and the zoom capabilities are good? i was thinking in doing a thread about image viewers to gather more info and opinions on the matter.
>>107851432
same, feels good. why regret? now you got more time for hobbies. also, the music that plays in that ED is good.

>>107851615
Aurora is a much better choice imo. It's basically Kinoite but with a bunch of QoL improvements like better driver and codec support, working hardware acceleration, etc..

>>107851615
You should just try regular fedora kde first to see how it goes

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>>107851615
You can avoid worrying about an update breaking things by not using something that updates frequently in the first place.
Debian Stable. unattended-upgrades. Security patches will be up to date, packages are frozen in time. He is doing jack shit on old hardware. He needs less not more.

>>107851753
The idea is to have an OS that breaks less. Atomic images are better at not breaking.

>>107851794
>Debian
>security patches

>>107851884
Despite popular belief atomic images actually break more and cause more issues than a regular distro would

using opensuse tumbleweed, KDE plasma, wayland.
whenever I take a screenshot using spectacle it says "The screenshot has been copied to the clipboard." but about half the time, it doesn't actually copy anything to the clipboard and if I paste an image, it either pastes nothing or the clipboard contains bad data that turns into the broken image icon.
what's wrong here and how do I fix it?

>>107851986
Despite your delusions my personal experience of using Linux for a decade and a half has proven your statement wrong.

>>107852025
>delusions
Yeah im sure that one popular youtuber who installed bazzite and had his system break on him after an update was just a delusion

>>107852025
nta but while I agree with you that atomic is fundamentally way more stable, anecdotal evidence of "works on my end" isn't proof

>>107852037
one person having a problem is not proof that atomic is less stable

>>107852025
i dont know much about immutable memes, but hes prolly looking for a distro that'd babysit his father, and that'd be fedora with some x11 DE or gnomu, since kde krashes.

>>107851673
Right, didn't consider Fedora ships without third party codecs. Gonna give Aurora a closer look.
>>107851794
Not a bad idea.
>>107851986
Bazzite didn't impress me much, but I imagine someone who doesn't even know how to open the terminal and installs a new program once every five years might have a better experience with atomic distros.

>>107852055
If they can survive with everything being installed from flatpak and working properly through flatpak and not have the system break on update due to a bad image update then it could work

>>107852024
It's a known issue on KDE. Well, at least it's known to the users. I'm not sure if it was ever reported.

>>107852037
>one random person having his system break due to some btrfs bug is a proof
Yeah sure, I'll definitely believe 1 person using Linux on 1 device for a week vs myself (also 1 person) who has used over a dozen distributions on a dozen different devices over the past 10+ years.

>>107852045
When it comes to overall OS stability one can only use anecdotal evidence. It's not like there's some long running objective stability benchmark when it comes to Linux desktops. And it's not like Ubuntu, Arch, Manjaro and Debian don't have multiple articles explaining that a system upgrade has completely bricked devices or introduced critical system breakage.
So yes, I'm speaking from the experience of myself and half a dozen people I personally know who have used Linux for a while now. That anon is only using one random guy on the internet as "evidence".

>>107852191
>proof doesnt count unless i say so
>systems break but its ok when my system breaks
If you're going to continue being disingenuous then nobody has any reason to believe anything you say.

>>107852229
>be disingenuous
>claim other people are
I see exactly what you're doing. But in case you're not being maliciously disingenuous here and are actually this unintelligent, at least try thinking about this for more than 1 second.

You've only shown 1 instance of an atomic/immutable system breaking (for an unspecified reason?) and you use it as your only proof that "atomic distributions are unstable compared to non-atomic ones". You're clearly appealing to the popularity of a youtuber and giving more weight to your claim of instability just because some random ass video got 400k views. Okay, let's play that game. Linus from LTT has broken a non-atomic distribution by simply trying to install Steam. So by your logic, non-atomic distributions are 10x less stable because a more relevant celebrity got 4.5M views.

You're also completely ignoring the fact that technologically speaking the whole point of atomic updates and immutable systems is to ensure they're less prone to breaking compared to the regular clusterfuck operating systems which don't have any safeguards. Oh and let's also ignore the fact that SteamOS and Android (the most popular Linux OS) are provably more stable than "standard" distributions even if the end users mod them quite a bit.

>>107851395
>fiel Spaß
oh nonono

>>107852055
Follow-up, I'll give Aurora a trial run for a few months on an old laptop. If it sucks, I'll try the other recs. Still got until October to decide, when free W10 ESU runs out.

>>107852402
>"atomic distributions are unstable compared to non-atomic ones".
Never said this but i already know you will argue that unstable is the same thing as breaking more or breaking less.
You went from calling the idea of an atomic distro breaking a delusion to then saying it doesnt count when given an example of it breaking not to mention the other times anons in these threads run into issues on atomic distros (always bazzite for some reason) that never exist on other distros
>Linus from LTT has broken a non-atomic distribution by simply trying to install Steam.
Which was a user error, where's the user error of the other youtubers bazzite system breaking? Was it because he rebooted his system?
>le android argument
Android isnt linux and one of the biggest complaints about steam os is all of the native packages provided by the image like chrome being out of date too quickly and any system changes made not being persistent which is also the biggest issue with immutable systems.
If you want a system that does one job and doesn't need to do many changes while the image gives whatever it needs then immutable can work but the average desktop is not like that.

>>107851606

$ date -d "tomorrow 10am"
Wed 14 Jan 10:00:00 UTC 2026

>>107852624
>>107851606
Although that's wrong if you intend for it to print today's date if it hasn't passed 10:00 AM yet.

You might have to parse hour number (should be easy with an if statement)

>>107852624
>>107852648
>>107851606
I think you could also do something like this:

if [ "$(($(date +%s -d "today 10am")-$(date +%s)))" -gt 0 ]
then
# hasn't happened yet
date -d "today 10am"
else
# already passed
date -d "tomorrow 10am"
fi

This logic makes sense to me but do test it

>>107852736
Would

[  "$(date  '+%H%M')"  -le 1000 ]

Be better? -le can be switched with -gt

>>107852598
>Never said this
>>107852037

>unstable is the same thing as breaking more or breaking less.
Correct. That's what's being discussed >>107851986.

>You went from calling the idea of an atomic distro breaking a delusion
Never said this. I'm saying you're delusional if you believe that an atomic distro is more likely to break than a non-atomic one.

>then saying it doesnt count when given an example of it
Never said this.

>always bazzite for some reason
No shit. It's one of the most popular distros for new Linux users who know absolutely nothing about Linux or computers. The same was true for both Mint and Ubuntu when they were the most popular newbie distros.

>Which was a user error
Are these also user errors?
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/666146/installing-ubuntu-1710-bricks-many-lenovo-laptops/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/sdf5sg/new_update_bricked_computer/
https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1lr5nro/my_cachyos_is_down/

>Android isnt linux
Yes it is.

>one of the biggest complaints about steam os is all of the native packages provided by the image
People aren't using "native packages" on SteamOS. They're using Flatpaks and Appimages.

>and any system changes made not being persistent which is also the biggest issue with immutable systems.
Not an issue on Fedora Atomic since it lets you persist system changes through overrides and rpm-ostree, unlike SteamOS which is indeed more locked down.
The experience of using Fedora Atomic is quite literally the same as any non-atomic distro with the only noticeable difference being slightly slower system updates and a mandatory reboot after they're downloaded (which is by design as it's using A/B partitioning).

>the average desktop is not like that.
It is. You're not a typical or average user if you're doing things which require such intricate system changes that cannot easily be done on Fedora Atomic.

>>107852835
cool but too hacky. This makes the intent clearer:

if [ $(date +%s -d "today 10am") -gt $(date +%s) ]; then
    date -d "today 10am"
else
    date -d "tomorrow 10am"
fi

>>107852522
Aurora is fine. I've been using on my side laptop for months and it's absolutely a no-brain-needed OS. No matter what I do it doesn't break.
It should be great for your pa'.

>>107851349

gthumb has option for image display from image data or embedded thumbnail

how can i set a max transfer rate for dolphin with ftp / network folders? i know it uses KIO as the library that handles that stuff but cant find anything in the config files.

>>107852883
>>Android isnt linux
>Yes it is.
It's not. Different driver APIs. Android kernels will never be fully compatible with mainline Linux.