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Kinda tempted to get one of these. I think it's probably overkill for an 9800X3D though.

Also, it really triggers me that AIO makers don't make the hoses come from the top of the CPU block and instead have it all asymetrical and shit.

Stock fans, or swap them out?

>>107852344
If price is not big concern for me, is the Asus I mentioned good monitor? I see it has the dual mode for 1080p, which I think not many monitors have, and when I look at stands, not many monitors have that square style leg, LG probably only one that has it too. So between LG and Asus, is Asus better then?

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I just got a Asus Prime 5070 Ti.
And I really don't feel like from another 500$ on my PC. But my monitor is so old. It's like a 2010 monitor. So it will waste all the visual quality upgrade I would get form the new card.

Is this a decent OLED monitor?

in the middle of restoring my old macbook. last i touched this thing, i swapped out the 250gb hard drive for a 128gb ssd back in college, and now half the drive's been taken up. would a larger capacity help with performance am i purely hamstrung by it being 16 years old at this point?

been reading about the matter all day and i still don't know for certain. at the same time i'm eyeing a 1tb ssd with tlc, and though it's the last one in stock, i feel it'd be a waste on this machine when it could go to my pc instead. thx in advance

>>107852387
There are practically 0 high-end 32" 4K IPS gaming monitors being made today.
That 1080p dual mode doesn't take advantage of the perfect integer scaling potential of the display, which leads to blurry 1080p mode.

>>107852410
Mines is coming in today I'll let you know how it is later.

>>107852144
did we look at the same chart?
no cooler is in the thermal limit
8 kelvin difference to a cooler half its price at the same noise level but with 24/7 pump screech and vroooom fan

>>107852410
if you go 1440p Id want higher hz monitor, 5070 ti has frame gen and all that

the gpu is also suitable for 4k using dlss

>>107852432
>That 1080p dual mode doesn't take advantage of the perfect integer scaling potential of the display, which leads to blurry 1080p mode
So if I want good scaling to 1080p, I have to use my GPU's driver program, instead of using the monitor's built-in feature? Basically select "GPU scaling" as opposed to relying on monitor scaling

Large volumes of ECC ram are actually cheaper than consumer ram now. Are there any older Epyc or Xeon CPUs that aren't shit for the price?

>>107852410
Personally I'd go straight to 4K OLED unless you're planning to upgrade to a Pulsar type OLED later

If I leave my pc on overnight and the fans keep spinning up and down, does that mean I'm infected with a miner?

>>107852453
Pretty much.
NVIDIA’s Integer Scaling only works when you are sending a resolution lower than the native one.
When you activate 1080p dual mode for that monitor, you're changing the native resolution to 1080p.
That monitor's overpriced for what it does.

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>>107852461
1200$ for a new monitor seems insanely over priced.

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I bought the alienware 3225qf but I think it was a retarded decision
don't get me wrong, the monitor itself is great however I think OLED is the wrong tech for my case
I do use it in a bright room but the curved display and anti-reflection tech is actually really good, I barely notice any issues, but it's winter right now, I don't know what it will be like in the middle of summer
basically I'm a shut-in, I work WFH for 8 hours and then spend another 8 hours on my personal computer until bed
I use the OLED as the primary monitor for both and after like 3-4 hours it's getting really noticeable that the monitor is dimming the screen heavily because a lot of my work involves static elements
whites are basically mid-grey thanks to the dimming and it's really irritating me
>just use dark mode
some of the stuff I use doesn't have dark mode and I also sometimes spend my time looking at co-workers screensharing and they don't use dark mode
so I'm not sure if I should keep it, the dimming really pisses me off and the OSD brightness slider doesn't even change anything between 30 and 100
so I was looking for alternatives and I'd prefer curved because of my window placement in this room (on an even screen I'd see the window on the left side of the monitor, this was a problem with my gigabyte IPS, nasty glare)
but the only "good" curved ones that can handle reflections I could find are the NEO G8 (which has a really aggressive curve and scanlines) and the msi 321cupdf
would these be a viable pick for my case?
are curved non-oleds (please no ultrawide) really that rare?

pic related, no I can't move my desk/monitor, there are more windows/doors in this room as well

>>107852449
Realistically the 5070ti caps out at 144-165fps and 2x framegen puts it at the 280-300hz sweet spot

>>107852491
not really. 1,200 is a good price considering all the real monitors cost 2,500 plus

>>107852472
unless you see some suspicious processes in taskmgr, probably not. go zero rpm if u want silence

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>>107852410
depends if you can handle 1440p qdoled fringing, if you can't next step is 4k 32", if that is too much next step is 27" 4k qdoled, if that is too much next step is to admit defeat and move to a WOLED

again if you are not bothered but see the fringing it's np, but it actually might cause eye strain and make it unable to focus and make your vision blurred, then it's a problem

ymmv fafo and so on

>>107852491
>picks the most expensive one
that's because it is
I saw the G81SF 27" samsung with the exact same panel dip down to 520$ or whatever the direct conversion is and that is EU with VAT+tax added
so yes they are at minimum 2x overpriced to join the republic

>>107852499
>the monitor is dimming
idk what osd features that monitor has but it should not do any dimming unless you got some garbage screen saving features or eco mode on
disable all that garbage
it should have 0 abl with 250 nits in sdr
are u running hdr on in windows?

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>>107852510
I see we have a Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 enjoyer here, very nice

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>he's leaving a 30% performance uplift on the table by sticking with DDR4

>>107852546
>disable all that garbage
it's all disabled, I'm running it in custom color r97 g98 b100, brightness 90%, contrast 77%
all powersaving/eco is off
HDR is turned off on the monitor and in windows and it's still dimming

>>107852546
that monitor is 3rd gen qd oled which has better text quality, still not as good as 4th gen tandem but its much usuable.

So when will I know if my 9800X3D OC (PBO +200MHz, curve offset -25) is stable?

It does benchmarks no problem (CB23/26) and has been doing fine in games (GTA 5, Minecraft, KOTOR), and regular desktop usage (emails, YouTube, seeding torrents in deluge).


1 week? 2 weeks? 1 month?

>>107852585
why are you going with that CPU, as opposed to 9950x3D or the upcoming refresh models for 9950x3D? You don't do any gaming?

I finally decided to buy a second monitor but when I unboxed and set it up, the screen was completely yellow like there was a layer of liquid piss inside the screen...is it normal to have to adjust new monitors that much now? It's the first monitor I've bought in like 8 years

>>107852576
does that monitor have some hidden logo dimming feature that can't be disabled or what

>>107852577
it's still gonna be horrendous due to 1440p even if the subpixels are a bit better aligned
people (me) get fucked up by 4k qdoled so I don't even wanna know how bad 1440p is

>>107852595
no

>>107852576
Rearrange your desk or return the monitor.
90% brightness + sunlight generates enough heat for the panel's thermal protection (brightness limiter) to feasibly kick in after extended hours.

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>>107852546
>G81SF 27" samsung with the exact same panel dip down to 520$
I found it for $640. Worth it? It wait for a deal?

Everything for PC is just so expensive.

>>107852574
missing out on all that delicious AIDA64 sequential read speed
>>107852588
cinebench isn't a stress test
you need to run real stress tests (linpack, prime95, y-cruncher) in core cycling mode, and with 2 threads, 4 threads, 6 threads, 8 threads, etc
go launch a game with heavy shader compliation that might kill it lmao

>>107852630
4k should be at 32" to get most out of it, imo

>>107852631
He's just baiting people to be able to say he doesn't give a shit about proper stress test loads.

>>107852631
>go launch a game with heavy shader compliation that might kill it lmao
Already did multiple shader compilations for several games without issue and distant horizons Minecraft world generation with 512 chunk LOD distance at 350-420 chunks per second. It ran my CPU at 100% for over 40 minutes straight.

Never dipped below 5.4Ghz on all cores, effective clocks in HWiNFO64 also showed nearly the same.

I'm not running prime or others as they're fantasy tests that aren't representative of anything.

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>>107852652
yeah i get it
one day he's gonna play a game like BF6 that loads up all cores and his undervolt will implode

>>107852652
Why should I?

Am I "playing" stress tests or am I playing video games?

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How stupid would it be to get a 4k IPS monitor?

>>107852664
What's the worst that can happen? His PC will crash? Whoaa

>>107852672
>60hz
very

>>107852588
I don't know

I got r7 7700 on -25curve and +150mhz I also put the power limit from 88whaeveritwas to 100W.
When I tried running with +175mhz my benchmark scores lowered.

Was mucking about on PCspecialist.
I noticed when customising a build on their site, their own-brand RAM (about 5600mhz) was significantly cheaper than the other ram available. (cheaper than the vengeance 5200mhz).
Is there any particular reason for this? Surely RAM is RAM?

Also, infect Sam Altman with smallpox.

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>>107852630
it also has a extremely heavy matte coating that people hate and makes shit look greasy but for a good price maybe, plus you can if you wanna void warranty do the old peelaroo of the coating
plus it has a power/osd button that will break with use and fall off also
plus I think some osd settings have a hard time sticking due to some bug on some things
so pretty much its the worst one out of them all but depending on price

>>107852640
also gives you more fringing

>>107852640
also the 27" old versions are 5 layer tandem and have better colors than the old 32"
aside from being a desperate attempt to not get eye strain

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>I5 9400F, GTX 1660S 6GB, 16GB DDR4 2133mhz

CPU: Ryzen 9 9900x 12-core
Current MB: MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI
Current GPU: 5080

So I went from a 3060 to a 5080 and older games are stuttering at random intervals. It's starting to look like my MB can't handle PCI-e 5.0 because changing it to gen 4 in the BIOS fixed that issue. No new BIOS update or rollback fixed the 5.0 and the forum reports instability with the MSI MB and 5080. Maybe I should have gotten the MAG x870e I dunno.

What motherboard do you recommend that can handle 5.0 and the 5080? Budget is like ~500

>>107852709
RAM is RAM
will probably be green PCB with no heatspreader but that doesn't matter at 5600
or even at 8000 honestly i know people got some very good results out of generic dell sticks

>>107852680
Crashing is the better option compared to instability-related performance issues that he'll blame on something else.

>>107852588
KOTOR? kek. game completely breaks if it runs over 60fps too. Minecraft unless it's heavily modded isnt great as a stability test either. Try Dragons dogma 2, hogwarts legacy or Cyberpunk with RTX in heavy npc populated sections.

What is the recent autism with Nvidia making 8GB and 16GB cards? Why can't they make more with 10-12GB?

>>107852731
Keep it at gen 4. There is zero percent advantage for an upgrade to 5.0 with a 5080. It would be a waste of money.

>>107852764
He's not seeking genuine feedback.

>>107852604
>does that monitor have some hidden logo dimming feature that can't be disabled or what
I think it does

>>107852607
>+ sunlight
there's no sunlight directly hitting the monitor
it just makes the room behind me bright as hell

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>>107852770
Because those 10 or 12GB VRAM configuration requires more memory controllers than the 8 or 16GB options.
The memory bus is in the GPU chip; every chip designer's goal is to design the smallest possible chip that meets their performance & efficiency targets.

>>107852770
Low VRAM and the cucked shitty bus width hinders performance at higher resolutions, so the 4090 and 5090 look more attractive and these cards will suffer once 4k becomes more broadly adopted. So planned obsolescence

>>107852764
>Minecraft unless it's heavily modded isnt great as a stability test either
It is
>KOTOR? kek. game completely breaks if it runs over 60fps too
I'm running over 80 mods. Mostly visual.

>>107852804
Thanks anon, who even benefits from 5.0 then? 5090 users?

>>107852806
I'd love for genuine feedback, you retards cry and moan unless you run unrealistic synthetic stress tests that do nothing for actual realworld stability.

Recommend me some software for testing thermals.

>>107852855
You are the retard who's crying and moaning about proper system torture testing procedures.
If it's worth tuning, it's worth tuning it right.

>>107852868
Because i'm asking for ACTUAL stability testing advice, not
>run prime95 for 24 hours i guess idk
what is basically all you've said.

Telling me half a dozen synthetic stress tests with no instructions on how long to run them, what settings to use, etc. Is fucking worthless you dumb faggot bastard.

>>107852859
chuck 100+ images into PNGOUTWin and show cpu temps

>>107852770
what this anon said >>107852838, they also moved to GDDR7 which operates at higher clocks so there is less need for a bigger bus to match the bandwidth olders card had, for example a 5070 TI has 896 GB/s on a 256 bit bus while a 4080 had 716.8 GB/s, to be honest it did not scale that well for gaming but for AI or productivity bandwidth is nice though, i think the only card across the stacks that got some gen on gen decent gains on this were the 128 bus cards like the 5060 TI as it has now 448 GB/s compared to the 4060 ti with 288 GB/S which was killing it performance in some games if you were using 1440p or 4k but again no one was really using 4k on that card , maybe the 5070 as it has now 672/GB/s compared to the 4070 which had 480 GB/S is an interesting shout, in 4k in some games are really bandwidth starved you can see it hold better than the 4070 super for example because of the bandwidth

>>107852876
Except you didn't even give the guy who suggested those tests >>107852631 the opportunity to share more specifics, you shut him down.
We get it, you have lower standards. Quit acting like a woman.

>>107852917
Yeah, and again instead of helping you act like a little faggot who thinks he's better than everyone else. I am not shocked, i've seen your posts many times in these threads over the years, you've always been a cunt.

5070 at $750 or 5070 Ti at $1k for ray traced rendering?

>>107852931
I'm not the same person who shared those app suggestions because I knew you are a whiney little bitch searching for something to argue about.
>Yeah, and again instead of helping
Why should we help someone like you who just brought up this topic for the sake of arguing?
>I'm not running prime or others as they're fantasy tests that aren't representative of anything.
You've already made up your mind. You have lower standards. End of story.

>>107852917
honestly i just stopped replying because you told me he was baiting
clearly he's showed up here before if you're that quick to tell me
so i don't know why this conversation is still ongoing

i know these types lol who cares let him enjoy his minecraft
-25 CO at 5.4 (+200 MHz) doesn't seem terribly unrealistic for a 9800X3D anyway, since AMD cucked it at the factory, it would be different if it was a 9850X3D at 5.8

>>107852940
i'd say Ti but why the fuck is it a thousand bucks. if you don't game that much though just get the 5070

My PSU has insane coil whine under load, is this just a bad one off that would be solved with a replacement or should I look for a totally different model?

>>107852946
Stop, you've already convinced me you suck cocks for sport, no need to continue beating a dead horse.
>>107852950
And yet I've stil not crashed a single time or had any in-game stability issues.

I'm glad you smug faggots cuck yourselves with shitty OCs to pretend that 99.9999% edge case stability issue doesn't pop up once a decade.

>>107852940
5070 TI, you'll need the extra vram

Why do people act like you HAVE to build your gaming PC all at once. You don't HAVE to.

You can buy a 9800X3D with all the component, spend $800 and just use a shitty GPU like a last gen 6700XT and wait until you have enough money to sell that plus combined to buy a new GPU. Yes it's going to be bottlenecked, but it will still be a better experience than your previous CPU and PC if you are upgrading from AM4 like a 5600 or some shit. You don't HAVE to buy it all at once and you don't HAVE to get the latest GPU.

If anything its smarter to wait until RDNA5 comes out since a 9070xt is too weak for the 9800X3D, wait until the 9070xt goes on sale for $400. It needs a more powerful GPU.

>>107852957
>'I don't care about proper stability testing!'
>'i'm asking for ACTUAL stability testing advice'
>'instead of helping, you '
Schizo trannie confirmed.

>>107852595
Make sure blue light isn't diminished either through windows or the monitor itself (eyesaver)

>>107852961
>all radeon post
Oh, no wonder it's brainless

>>107852998
Nobody uses winblows spyware in 2025. Its the year of the linux desktop. Linux gaming just werks.

>>107852961
Because is retarded unless you play 720p or something? this is a 7600x is not that much faster than a 5600x and you can see the same performance 1440p on lower end gpus like the 9060 xt which is closer to your 6700x may as well get a 1440p display and a modern gpu which has a decent upscaler, i think you can buy a 9060 xt 16gb and a 1440p IPS 144 hz for the same price as a 98003xd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpN4nyftQ3M

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Is anyone here planning on getting the 9850X3D when it releases?

>>107852953
Too many variables, it would probably help but I doubt it would be worth the money unless it's actually driving you insane

>>107853013
A 9800X3D is the same price as a 7800X3D right now, at least on new egg.

7800X3D is $400
9800X3D is $470 with a $90 free AIO

Actually cheaper to buy a 9800X3D

7600X is garbo its slower than a 5800X3D lmao. Why would I buy a slow ass CPU doe if I'm paying a lot of money.

All I play is CS2 and indie games at 1440p I don't really need a new GPU and when I do in the future upgrade to RDNA 5 like the 9080XT or whatever I'll be glad I have the top of the line CPU.

>>107853026
if AMD includes a free memory kit i'll consider it

>>107853046
plesae buy the 9800x3d then, do it you deserve it

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>>107853051
Why didn't you buy ram when it was cheap?

>>107852961
Yes
I'm sure the prices will be lower in the future
Let's all just wait until 2028

>>107852961
You're right, you don't even need to buy the 500-900$ monitor either, the 1080p from garbage bin will work just fine

>>107852819
>I think it does
it has a fan for a reason but idk never seen anyone report dimming on the monitors
thats the benefit of monitors vs tvs for oled
they dont have the abl in sdr
but idk

>>107852819
>there's no sunlight directly hitting the monitor
>it just makes the room behind me bright as hell
The display panel's cooling can't sustain 90% brightness for your extended hours of use.
I'd return it for an LCD.

>>107853063
i didn't need RAM when it was cheap
AMD is only gonna be able to sell CPUs to those who are already invested in AM5 and none of those people actually need an upgrade

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I ended up going with just some cheap IPS 4k monitor for under $160.

I don't feel like dropping $700+ dollars on a monitor right now. So this will hold me over.

>>107853068
You see buying the most expensive Zen 5 CPU less one year until we get Zen 6 in the middle of a DRAM shortage instead of a GPU which uses DRAM makes me a genius, why? because i use linux and buy amd abandonware

>>107852588
Run OCCT on CPU + RAM, medium data set, extreme mode, with AVX2 instructions, set core mode to auto.

Do 1 hour for a quick and dirty stability test, do 6-12 hours for a "real" stability test.

If you notice issues you can try running it on "Core Cycling" mode later to see if any single core is causing problems more than the rest.

>>107853085
Just so you know bro at 4k its a 72hz max refresh rate, 144hz is for the FHD mode or 1920x1080p

>>107853079
>>107853080
I found some stuff actually
it doesn't do this aggressive dimming in creator mode according to the internet
however creator mode looks really washed out and the gamma is also wrong according to the internet
I tried some ICC profiles that are supposed to fix it, they fix the srgb but the colors are still so washed out that I'm not gonna use this mode

>I'd return it for an LCD.
which one though
>4k
>curved
>144hz or higher
>32inch
>700-800 bucks max

>>107853085
>4k
>not even 75hz
ngmi

>>107853085
atleast get a 300$ 160hz 4k or something
atleast it wont have fringin and eye strain guaranteed

why are companies legally allowed to sell <144hz monitors in 2026
what do they even get out of scamming people out of frames?

>>107853113
>>107853122
My current monitor is a 2010 LED monitor with 60Hz. It's still an upgrade. And it's cheap.

I'll hold off until the next black Friday sale and pick up something actually good.

>>107853140
How much expensive are the 100hz anon, its mostly because of this >>107853134

How do people use 4K on 27 inch monitors without a magnifying glass

Feel like 27 is perfect for 1440p but surely you need 32 or above for 4K

>>107853134
At that point I might as well just drop the 700+ for a good monitor.

>atleast it wont have fringin and eye strain guaranteed
I've been living with an LED monitor for decades. I'll be fine for now.

>>107853152
windows scaling you retard

>>107853151
My eyes are immune to fringin after decades of using a 1080p LED monitor.

>>107853092
and then wait another 2 years before you can buy it below $700. Waitfags in shambles. Buyfags always win

Just admit you dont know what selling is. You can just sell it for $70-100 less than you paid for it and upgrade to the new CPU.

Should I return my Atmos for the Silent Loop 3? I don't really care about marginal temperature differences as long as the pump is silent.

>>107853106
Thanks, i'll probably run the core cycler for an hour tonight then the regular test overnight and see if it crashes.


My voltages during all-core loads are fairly low though, so I might just have decent silicon quality.

>>107853117
you can always side grade to another 4k 32" 240hz qdoled

>>107853136
it should be illegal to sell sub 4k monitors too
crazy how monitors aren't already like 500ppi by default too

>>107853151
gigabyte 27" should be cheap

>>107853155
>I've been living with an LED monitor for decades. I'll be fine for now.
it's completely different, you very well might be, or not

>>107853174
just low ppi and seeing pixels is nothing like the subpixels on qdoled

>>107853160
>buy 4k monitor
>scale it so much that the equivalent resolution is close to 1440p
why buy 4k monitor if you're not gonna use its resolution?

>>107853177
see >>107853059

>>107853205
better picture quality, better text
you are still using the resolution just not the real estate

>>107853188
Return it if you have any doubts; don't break the plastic mounting tab on the be Quiet AIO.

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just watching a video I forget sometimes how normies react to anything involving computers

>>107853199
>you can always side grade to another 4k 32" 240hz qdoled
well by pure chance I have the oled version of the 321cup here and it is indeed better with the dimming stuff
it doesn't have this grey haze over whites, like the alienware does

>>107853226
It's not much better if you're running too high % scaling, because it's making it more and more like 1440p

>>107853045
Which variables are at play?
It's a 850W for a 5070 TI + 7600X3D, that should be around 400W.

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Get those cheaper 16GB VRAM cards while you can.