>>107864753
Thank you for taking care of /fglt/, anon. Am I too normie, because I think that most of the sources are too schizo?

In Mint is there a way to make the search bar in the menu search the filesystem like in Windows? How do I get that functionality?

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>>107851339
just updooted

>>107864780
What about arch?
I managed to make do with android-file-transfer but I have to manually mount it on the terminal every single time I plug it in in order to access it on thunar.

>>107864916
what about debian (im trans btw)

>>107864906
Should be "mtpfs" for Arch.

>>107864926
****UPDATE****

DISTROS FOR TRANNIES
>Arch
>Debian

>>107864916
absolutely BASED

>>107864966
I think you're on the wrong board, faggot

>>107864916
>DISTROS FOR WHITE BEARD BOOMERS STUCK IN THE PAST REEEEING ABOUT "BACK IN MY DAY....." STUCK IN THE 90s
this is slackware you retard
did you even read what you posted?

>>107864916
>DISTROS FOR THE WHITE MAN - FOR WHITE MEN ONLY
>>Fedora
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mirL15zZYNc

>>107864981
NTA, but I don't think you can read.

>>107864981
Did you?

>>107864916
Dude, I'm so proud of you for being openly retarded on the internet, have a good one

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why does literally nobody (you don't count) use opensuse?

>>107864986
also, didnt redhat leaked some powerpoints meant for their employees explicitly being anti-white?

>>107865019
well.i am not trans, gay, brown, poor, from india, an NPC, or a techlet... soooooo.....

>>107865019
It's basically just Fedora, Europe.

>>107864753
didnt we have our own wiki? install gentoo wasnt it? about distros and stuff, these sources are terrible.
>>107864880
whoa, now i can see the appeal, good job.

>>107865047
>install gentoo
oh man, you just reminded me of the time it was vandalised

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Waiting for a drive to resize in Gnome Disks is nail-biting. I should have installed something to monitor the progress. A quick google search mentions iostat, and typing that in the terminal recommends installing systat to use it. But not sure if it's safe to install right now while the resize operation is currently taking place (Resizing 4 TB NTFS external SSD to 3 TB, so I can create a 1 TB ext4 partition for installing software/games). I didn't expect the operation to take this long but I forgot I plugged in the external drive initially to my dock which is a Gen-1 USB port, instead of directly into the USB 3.0 slot on the laptop itself. Yeah, that was dumb. Just gotta wait and see now lol.

Normally this would be fine since I'd have extra backups, but I've been away from my main pc and backup drives for a good while, so this external drive IS my backup drive for the time being. I might be able to get away with some data loss, but if the whole drive gets corrupted, that's gonna be bad news. So hopefully this resize operation finishes sooner rather than later lol.

damn mods doing their hard job enforcing the "friendly"ness in /fglt/

>>107865047
old domain died, I don't know what happened
https://igwiki.lyci.de

>>107865019
more like opensus haha

>>107865060
>didn't use Timeshift to back his shit up first
NGMI

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FRIENDLY GNU/Linux Thread.
(Emphasis on friendly)

>>107864932
That's even worse, it can't mount at all, much less do it automatically.

>>107865072
I thought Timeshift isn't a proper backup tool. Just a way to set system restore points. Apparently you're not supposed to back up personal files with it. My stuff is actually all backed up, but I'm away from home right now. It wouldn't be the end of the world, but it would still suck if I lost the drive.

>>107865067
nice, i remember Babbies First Linux helping me out choose my first distro back in the day, it didnt change a lot

>>107865154
>it didnt change a lot
what do you expect from lazy /g/ neckbeards

>First day of using Linux and Mint for the first time
I love it, I already am getting the hang of everything now. I'm gonna miss Windows but I am happy that I am moving on.

letting go of your old distro and installing a new one feels so good. Is this why distro-hoppers are a thing?

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You know I was thinking, the only game I even really play is elder scrolls online and that game of course works flawlessly on Linux. It also has zero cheaters outside of the rare skill spammer, but it’s hard to tell if that’s actually a cheat or someone just mashing the button really fast. Anyways, point is the game uses server side anticheat and it’s extremely effective. It makes me wonder why devs keep pushing client side anti cheats despite them being utterly useless.

>>107864846
which ones are shizos zoomzoom?
i can explain their philosophy in detail to you if you want to
>>107865062
they seem to be somewhat doing their job in catalog as well
wtf is happening?

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>>107865255
Nice going, anon. If you do ever feel like going back to Windows (whenever Microsoft gets its head out of its ass, maybe one day in the future), there's always the dual-boot option (especially for some of those pesky games with incompatible anti-cheat software, or if you ever need to use photoshop in the future) or reinstalling it in a VM.

Hope you enjoy Mint, and Linux in general. It's really great. I occasionally will distrohop to try new stuff, but I always find my way back to Mint, it's my home distro lol. Can't go wrong with it.

>>107857401
>>107862967
You know what they have to do to solve this found problem? Pour a dozen of millions on system snapshots. Get FAGMAN out of their asses to pick and fix one BTRFS or ZFS and mainline it, then build good tooling around using them for system files' backup and restoring. That's it, the problem is solved. No need to ugly Git-like hacks and deltas shit.

>>107865297
i think its just zoomers not knowing how to switch DE's without reinstalling an entire system
thats how i was when i was younger
and back then i didnt have any important data either on my PC
>>107865328
usually i hate talking about niggercattle slop that is gayming but to answer your question:
its practically impossible to detect things like aimbot,info cheats and wallhacks with server side
its really easy to spoof pattern recognition software if you arent complete chungus
all these videos with cheaters that you see online where you can obviously tell that they are cheating are just low iq children and mentally handicapped adults that are using free/cheap cheats and who will be then banned for that and then just buy a new account anyway with their moms credit card/mcdonalds wage job money

and additionally in your case it might be that you just dont know/arent noticing any cheaters
back when i was still playing that russian scam called war thunder there was a post on reddit where a guy would confess to being a cheater and then would answer some questions from local fauna
someone asked him how many cheaters are there in any particular match and he answered something along the lines of 20 %

now this is ofc alleged and its just his opinion and he might've just been shitposting and yada yada but i do actually believe that there is a shitton of cheaters in this game given how devs are and how community is
back then reading this post made me realize how before i didnt even think about there being any cheaters in this game, like the gameplay works such a way that you wouldnt even notice if someone is actually cheating and given that anticheat software is can be safely assumed to be fucking useless there are probably lots of people running all sorts of shit

>>107865380
Snapshots only help you with "my system didn't boot, what now?"
They do nothing for "I slowly fucked up my system and now I can't install any new packages but I don't remember what I did oops :)"
Same reason you can get softlocked in a game even if you have quicksaves.

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>>107865060
Installed SysStat and ran the iostat command. Seems to work. And it looks like stuff is actually being read and written to the drive, so it's not just hanging in a 'loading' limbo. So at least things are happening and I just gotta wait it out.

>>107864854
So no?

christ these nvme m.2 prices are so gay. guess i might just have to yolo it and overwrite windows entirely

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>>107865362
I heard tales about distrohopping and the fears it brings, I will just remain with Mint. I feel like there is no point of moving around if Mint will become the top one. I also hope that in the future, more games will come to Linux and appliances. I don't think Windows will be popular in the next ten years or less, I do think that Linux will be the final phase of personal computing.

Do any of you guys have KDE connect or a program that lets you link your phone with your pc and lets you send texts from it? Is it good? I was thinking that might be a useful thing to have.

over the last i suppose five years or so, the performance difference between windowed fullscreen and exclusive fullscreen in games has become a kind of non-issue. would the same true for linux, or is it recommended to just play exclusive most of the time?

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>>107865067
>>107865225
What are we thinking so far for the Debian page? Debian is slow after all so there's still nothing critically wrong with it after 6 years of no updates, but it could use a little love.

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>>107865476
It suddenly finished. Files seem to be intact. Time to format the new space as ext4. What a relief! Man, I was really feeling the pressure there for a bit, but Gnome Disks came through. That was a close one.

>>107865527
You can dual boot safely if you do it right but the problem is once you have it set up it's a pita to reboot just to do a specific thing on the other system. And yeah mint is fine, if you need to install something and guides tell you to use PPAs just ignore that shit and get the flatpak/appimage, they're a nightmare to deal with when doing a mint/ubuntu upgrade

Genuine question i suppose, but why do people say linux is hard compared to windows? If you just use the appstore on basically any distro shit is so much easier than windows, and i dare say ive found the following easier with arch

-installing (with arch install) vs even figuring out how to make a bootable windows media
-installing apps (pacman is so intuitive vs having to hunt down windows programmes, like installing mpv is cakewalk on arch vs windows)
-speed everything runs at (windows just lags)
-games seem to just work for me through proton
-aesthetic -> plasma looks miles better than windows and is actually cohesive in the way everything looks
im sure theres tonnes more im missing

>>107865613
The reason is simple. If I use Windows for 20 years, I know how to deal with most issues the average user will encounter without ever looking it up on the Internet.
If I now switch to Arch Linux, I'm completely out of my depth. Practically none of my existing knowledge translates over.

>>107865613
Downloading shit that isn’t in the app store is a pain. For example game mods.

>>107865572
Some games like War Thunder don't like windowed fullscreen, so if I want to watch youtube, I have to play the video first on one monitor then tab back into the game on the monitor its on. Trying to click youtube anytime after that will minimize the game even if you set it to windowed fullscreen, but it acts like exclusive fullscreen. But then other games like Halo: The Masterchief Collection have no problems with Windowed Fullscreen, I can use it and click whichever monitor I want while the game is running and it behaves the same way it did on Windows. Depends on the game and distro (and maybe even your hardware) I guess. Some games I can't see any difference in performance whether its windowed or exclusive.

>>107865620
hmm, i suppose for me ive used all three major systems since a long time, so i dont consider it like that. i think for a completely new user who has no computer experience linux would be easier. i feel like most of windows is making the system work im not gonna lie
>>107865628
ah i assume .exe game mods?

>>107865628
That's the same as Windows. What may be a pain by comparison is various mod loading methods, it seems easy but I personally haven't encountered any games that require external dlls to be loaded so I haven't tried my hand at that.

>>107865613
>why do people say linux
linux is a kernel

>>107865645
>.exe game mods
Yeah specifically one for Fallout 2. There were instructions for Linux but it was a pain. On windows you just download that shit and run it.

>>107865643
Sure but the chance that you'll find a complete virgin computer user who has never used Windows is not that high. You'll find them, but it's rare.

Also while I agree that Windows installer is difficult as fuck, the vast majority of Windows users never install Windows, it comes pre-installed on their shitbox with the correct drivers and software for their shitbox already included. That takes a lot of difficulty out of it.
I'm an Arch user, but I use Windows 11 on my laptop instead of Linux because that's what came pre-installed. Now, don't get me wrong, it's tempting to change, but it's a lot harder to change than not do anything.

is there an easy way to swap entire workspaces between monitors in sway?
sometimes i want to put a multiwindow configuration on my second monitor or keep a single window on a specific workspace bind while moving it to another monitor without having to use 5 different binds and use three different workspaces.
something like pressing super+ctrl+1 and it sends the current workspace to monitor 1 or super+ctrl+2 and sending it to monitor 2 while maintaining its workspace number
i couldnt find any documentation on this but maybe i just havnt looked hard enough
im really stupid and bad at scripting so im trying to avoid using non native sway commands but i think its what must be done

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>>107865527
To me it's less about the fear of moving to a new system and more just curiosity about new features other distros have. Surrounded by FOSS stuff, I've just been really fascinated with the progress of everything going on in this space and what other devs/distros are doing.

And I don't have to commit to any of it either. If it's something I just have a passing interest in I just create a liveUSB thumbdrive and test out the feature(s) but don't actually install it. It also helps to have an extra drive or older laptop laying around if you can get one, that way you can conduct your future linux experiments on those before committing to your main system.

But starting out, yeah, I didn't want to get overwhelmed or distracted by other distros either. Definitely get yourself more comfortable and familiar with Mint for now. There's still plenty to learn just within this distro so you've got your hands full for while. Have fun with it.

>>107865711
check the i3 user guide on their website
sway is just an i3 fork for wayland

i dont know if you have already doe this but you can assign workplaces to different outputs like

 workspace 1 output HDMI-A-0 

other than that i have no idea how to move an entire workplace

I thought I did this right but I'm having an issue with flashing up devices through brave browser, so I added my user to input with
sudo usermod -aG input username
but I still can't flash it (it's an xteink x4)

>>107865730
i should really remember to search i3 forums and documentation, found my solution in a matter of seconds

bindsym $mod+Ctrl+1 move workspace to output DP-2
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+2 move workspace to output DP-1
this is the bind to do this btw, its really simple and makes a lot of sense lol

>>107865681
I'm switching my laptop to linux because win10 uses 4 gb of ram out of 8gb and win11 is worse
even on my main pc which is very powerful win10 is sluggish and explorer crashes constantly. it feels bad to use. get a winblows user on endeavour or something, show them they can watch jewtube and browse facebook on it, they'll never even think about windows again

>>107865613
Where windows shines is the middle ground of little .exe programs that you can download and run largely without worrying about dependencies. System tweaks, game patchers, mod launchers, reshade, little portable indie games that aren't on Steam. You can just take them and leave them somewhere and they'll keep working forever. Also, especially if you use a vanilla home edition without doing a bunch of custom debloats, everything gets tested thoroughly on a system like yours so you won't get too many surprises. (Even if you do, most stuff doesn't rely on the bloat even by now, unless it's first party by MS)
The downside is if you DO want to update those things, it's annoying as fuck, lots of them will nag you about updates and then if you relent it'll just link you to their website and tell you to download and install the new version.
Installing windows is a horrible experience, that's true. You can stick with the OEM copy and avoid that but the bloatware is even worse so you need to go through with it

The one thing I like about Windows 11 is that the cd key is saved to your motherboard. So you don't have to keep the install disk/box around and have to type in the stupid code manually anytime you want to reinstall it. I also like how nice it played with my nvidia card. Now that I mostly use linux, I wish I had gone with an AMD gpu.

>>107865793
yay, what setup are you going to go for on your laptop?
>>107865794
that's fair I suppose, but I guess Flatpack solves the dependency issues thing. I personally think Flatpack will be the future even though I don't use it on my system at all (aur gang gang)
>>107865811
is that only for prebuilts? one crazy thing about windows is that you can use that programme I forget the name of to activate windows permanently by contacting Microsoft servers officially. it's actually insane that it's allowed?!

>>107865879
aur is kind of annoying because dependencies will update out from under you and the aur package can break. possibly silently, like if python was upgraded and the module is gone. You can rebuild of course but it's not like leaving an .exe somewhere and then coming back in 5 years and resuming your save.
flatpak is a good idea but not quite the same, I also dislike using it due to the extra abstraction always finding a way to cause problems. it works on android but desktops call for deeper integration between programs even if every developer hates that.

>>107865931
yeah for sure, aur is for users that know what they're doing. I suprisingly have few issues with it (only nomacs seems to break occasionally).

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I'm trying to learn programming but it's been stalled for a week now because I can't get all the things I need installed.
I'm trying to get python-tkinter and python-dev installed so I can use PyAutoGUI but I'm on an immutable distro (Bazzite). The furtherst I got is with containers (Distroshelf) but for some reason whatever I try will shit itself either trying to find tkinter/dev or trying to install PyAutoGUI. It has been frustrating to no end and I just want to finally get back to typing stuff.
So what's the most retard proof way to get those things to work on Bazzite? I'm not trying to be an uber hacker I just want to automate a few things on my desktop and in my video games. Screen attached is the furtherst I got.
>inb4 use a non-meme distro
I'm not distrohopping again. Every distro seems to be a meme distro whenever problems arise.

>>107866209
did you try it with a python venv?

>>107866217
Problem is I don't even know what the path/arguments to use with that command or how it even works with containers.

>>107866257
i think you should be fine to just run

python3 -m ~/path/to/your/project/venv

this will make a venv folder in your project directory. whenever you want to work on your project you just do

source ~/path/to/your/project/venv/bin/activate

and then

pip install whatever

to install whatever packages you want in the venv. i don't think the fact that it's in a container should be any issue.

>>107866209
It might not be named "python3-pyautogui". Try "apt search pyautogui" to find the actual name of the package.

>>107866209
Your problem doesn't have to do with the container or bazzite, the problem is you're trying to install to (the container's) system python and it's freaking out. You want a venv of some kind. The message is basically telling you what to do but you can also look up examples for this.

I'm a bit worried about trying to do gui automation (presumably on the main system?) from inside a container though. It would be easy on a non-immutable x11 system but that's something that I assume security features might stop. Wayland also hates that stuff and enjoys breaking it. And there isn't much of a culture of GUI automation like AHK has on windows, because everything is already geared towards much easier automation with the command line. I haven't played with pyautogui though

>>107866209
>>107866330
Oh, nvm, I see you are trying to install pyautogui in a container. That probably won't work. It's better to try it in a virtualenv like the other guy said.

>>107866363
Forgot to mention that if you want to automate your desktop there's probably an easier way, like kwin scripts for KDE, you should be able to do that in your home dir with no container and wayland won't bother you. But it's probably pretty hard for a newbie. I would focus on command line scripts if I were you, they are simple as fuck to work with and the world runs on them.

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>>107866295
>>107866330
>>107866363
>>107866386
Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Will try once I get back from work.

>>107866295
to add onto this, and to what >>107866363
said, most modern languages have some kind of system/tool (like venv) for installing libraries on a per-project basis instead of relying on libraries from your distribution's package manager.
it's generally considered good practice to keep your project dependencies (pip install whatever) isolated from each other (/my/project/venv vs /other/project/venv), and keep all of those isolated from your system dependencies (libs you install via apt)

>>107866295
You don't even have to type

source venv/bin/activate

, you can literally just run

venv/bin/pip install whatever

and then execute your script with

venv/bin/python3 whatever.py

. The binaries in the venv can all be invoked directly.

>>107865297
A fresh install of the same distro also feels good.

>>107865110
>I thought Timeshift isn't a proper backup tool. Just a way to set system restore points. Apparently you're not supposed to back up personal files with it.
It can be used as a frontend for Btrfs snapshot feature. You can backup snapshots of subvolumes containing "personal files" just like any files. Looks like you chose not to use Btrfs or LVM so all of this is kinda irrelevant to you anyway.

>>107865444
You can set snapshots to autogenerate like once a day/week or everytime you use the package manager and just keep restoring them chronologically until stuff works again. You can (and should) have your home directory on a different dataset, so you can exclude it from the root dataset. But you're right - no matter how good a tool is, you can only get so much utility out of it if you're retarded.

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autistic sex with bashbunni

>>107866811
is she polish or something?

also, can we please stop this retarded "sex with x" meme already

>>107866821
sex with (You)

>>107865536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv2vtkn_tlI
kde connect seems fine

>>107865483
80% of Linux users use KDE or GNOME with the 3rd most popular DE being Xfce. If you have questions specific to Cinnamon or Mint you'll have better odds asking an AI that harvested all info from Mint Forums or Reddit, or going to one of those two places yourself.

>>107865536
I've used KDE Connect for the past 6 years. Can't live without it.

>>107865613
The way software is distributed on Linux was for the longest time inferior to Windows. Unless you're using Appimages, Flatpaks or Snaps you're stuck with whatever your distribution maintainers deliver (3rd party repos are often there, but can cause breakage during system upgrades). This includes critical system dependencies which software outside of your repositories relies on, so downloading software from the internet was never reliable (most people want software that's not in your average default repo). As a result Linux sucks donkey ass when it comes to 3rd party software and backwards compatibility to the point that you have to use containers to ensure that a lot of software works, be it Flatpak and Distrobox for normal software or Wine/Proton for games (native Linux games often become incompatible with distributions after a few years unless the game is still being developed and maintained).
>inb4 Linux package management is superior to downloading .exes
I agree, but that only applies if you're fine with exclusively using software that's in your repos and if you're fine with using outdated software (assuming you're on Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, etc.).

To most people this type of experience is just unacceptable because most people don't want to deal with dependency hell, outdated apps and the dance of "which container will I use now".
Linux only became easier to use somewhere between 2019 and 2024 and even that was entirely distro dependent.
The old way of package management was insufficient for mass-market desktop software and was only ever good for devices which serve a single purpose, like a server.

>>107864753
Why doesn't my laptop suspend properly?
I recently switched to a new Lenovo Legion where I dual boot Win11&Manjaro. Closing the lid does just nothing, which is ok. I'm fine with 'systemctl suspend' every time I want to put it to sleep.
The problem is that not even that works. Upon suspending the laptop, all looks fine, the display and keyboard turn off and the fan stops spinning. But when I return to the laptop after a while, for some reason, the keyboard is lit up again. And, of course, that leads to the very frustrating fact that if I suspend the laptop in the evening almost fully charged and come back to it in the morning, it's already shut down because of dead battery.
What can I do about this? When in Windows, suspending the laptop works just fine and I can leave it suspended for many days without losing much battery power.
I checked in `/sys/power/mem_sleep` that suspend is set to `[deep]`. No idea what could be causing this.

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>>107866989
>I dual boot Win11&Manjaro

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>>107865598
Partition tables are obsolete. Ext4 is obsolete.
Get rid of partitions and use a modern CoW filesystem like Btrfs or ZFS.

Does fastfetch detect dwm for you?
Tried looking at its github and it doesn't seem to check for "dwm" in ffDetectWMVersion.
https://github.com/fastfetch-cli/fastfetch/blob/dev/src/detection/wm/wm_linux.c
Is there a way to manually set it?

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long shot but if anyone happens to be using easyeffects, could you let me know if the eq has Q/bandwidth settings for each band? thanks bros

>>107867195
You still need an EFI partition to boot though, so they're not obsolete.

>>107867496
nvm, it does.

>>107867530
you're welcome

>>107867594
thank me

>>107867195
>sandisk
No one should take any "advice" from you.

>>107866981
Thanks for the replies.
Why is it that.. my wine prefix was fine with icu.dll=d but after 1 month it needs 2 additional icu related dll files to be disabled? Can a simple wine system update do this?

>>107867715
>hurr I'm a hipster that doesn't use Sandisk
Good for you anon

>>107867752
You might as well mount your digital camera via usb c and call that your system partition.

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Ok so I was installing Gentoo with ZFS root rpool in a VM as an experiment and my host FS is BTRFS and I noticed it's fucking slow. Is ZFS just slow in a VM or is my BTRFS's CoW causing it to slow down? The VM disk image is RAW. Am I destroying (fragmenting?) my BTRFS system with this?

>>107867789
kek

>>107867789
>using persistent storage
If you didn't miss out on RAM when it was cheap you should've bought at least 128GB RAM and assign 75% of it as your system storage. Then just use a cheap USB device as a live USB OS and mount everything into your ramdisk after boot.
>everything is done in a web browser anyway
>system updates are for updooter losers
>hoarding files on local drives is peak autism

>>107867752
It was a joke. I'm sure sandisk is fi

which bootloader should i pick for cachyos?

>>107867857
>sandisk is fi-
NOOOOO LEXAR KILLED HIM

>>107867866
LeMeme. Or toss a coin to decide since it doesn't matter much.

>>107867715
Good to see people are finding new reasons to be triggered over my quick & dirty example screenshot
>>107867789
Lmao, you really thought the 16GB flash drive was supposed to be a system disk? This is what you're sperging over?

>>107867513
Sure, but at least the ESP can be stored separately from the system disk.

>>107867794
Sounds pretty much expected for nested CoW filesystems.
>The VM disk image is RAW
Doesn't matter what format it is if you're still storing it on the host filesystem. Since you're not passing through the controller, you likely have hypervisor overhead too. I use a root on ZFS system with lz4, no dataset optimisations and have literally never noticed it being any slower than XFS/ext4.

>>107865019
I got tired of its limited package selection, so I switched to Debian stable

>>107868329
Yeah, so if I just disable CoW on host BTRFS for the VM disk image path I should be good?

>>107868397
Responding to myself: lsattr shows a big C for $HOME/.local/share/libvirt/images and all its files. WTF? Is this some weird automation about BTRFS? I never set any folder to +C myself. Or did virt-manager do it?

>>107865019
It's used in some businesses and government offices in EU. It will probably become more popular if the relations between the US and EU worsen as the EU is switching away from Windows, but from the looks of things the EU is mainly eyeing Ubuntu.

Is there a way to drag and drop images from browsers to desktop

>>107868397
What are you trying to achieve, exactly? Are you aiming for some kind of long term setup with this, or are you just getting a feel for ZFS?
I don't know how much of your delay is caused by hypervisor overhead or the guest filesystem, so I can't promise turning off CoW on the host will fix anything.

>>107868462
>lsattr shows a big C
I have no idea why that is happening. But it reminded me of this:
https://youtu.be/44MyrH4jwOQ

>>107868503
>or are you just getting a feel for ZFS
This, I just want to learn ZFS before I use it properly for anything.
>I don't know how much of your delay is caused by hypervisor overhead or the guest filesystem
I suspect now something else, I think the entire VM is just slow for some reason. I had to boot it in BIOS mode which I suspect is reason but I have no idea why. I'll try to get UEFI to work, my other UEFI VM's are fast but this gentoo ISO didn't boot with virt-manager's UEFI so I chose BIOS.

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>>107865019
There isn't much reason to now. I have been using it for 5 years now since it was the only distro that did bootable system states back then. Now it would probably make more sense to use Fedora Atomic instead. I find Zypper to be one of the better package managers, it never messes up updates unlike apt, but that's another issue immutable distros solve as well.

I was just thinking today that it's pretty fucking pathetic that entire EU doesn't do anything with Linux and Linus Torvalds.
They keep complaining about America and how they dominate in tech and yet they got this motherfucker just sitting in Finland, by himself, rivaling these trillion dollar tech giants from his basement.
Why the fuck don't they give him some money, a company, some employees? They could overthrow MS and make Linux the corporate standard, at least in Europe, but they don't even bother.

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>>107868518
Yeah it just won't boot with UEFI, I have no idea why. Ubuntu installer ISO does work fine with UEFI, for example.

>>107868536
>entire EU doesn't do anything with Linux and Linus Torvalds.
>they got this motherfucker just sitting in Finland, by himself, rivaling these trillion dollar tech giants from his basement
Lol, Linus has been an american for years, living in the US. He studied in Helsinki Finland and Linux kernel was created there but as many successful faggots he fleed from his home country when he became successful.

>>107868536
Linus Torvalds is the only person who was autistic enough to sit down to make a minix like kernel for 386.
This tells more about humans than anything else. eg. people are parasites.

>>107868518
You can just install ZFS on your main system, give it a disk or two and play around with some of the features.
But yes, the main challenge will be using ZFS as a root filesystem, since the GPL incompatibility meant poor adoption in the Linux space. I don't think the UEFI/BIOS thing is causing your VM to be slow. Try giving the VM an actual raw disk instead of using an image file.

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>>107868614
I don't have spare physical disks to spare for an experimental VM training ground. But cheers anon, I guess I'll just shrug and deal with the slowness whatever it's just a training VM.
Here's my ZFS setup or at least how I'll try to install my system now.

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>>107868684
Jesus christ I just said I won't care about perf but this is the slowest stage3 extract I've ever done. It's still going... I'm questioning my ashift value for zfs pool right now, maybe that's the problem...

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>>107864854
It already does that.

Is there any script to mass convert every image and gif to jpeg-xl without any detail loss?

>>107868829
Still going. I'm giving up what the actual fuck is this shit. All my other VM's perform fine.

>>107868915
>scripts
Just use Switcheroo, grandpa.

>>107868915
Sounds like a good learning project. The Bash guide in the OP should get you started.

>>107869227
>learn to code
gottem

>>107869227
>risking the loss of thousands of files for your first Bash project
Go back to your shitty yakuza movies takeshi, i'm not giving you content for your washed TV show

>>107869364
Just restore the files from your backup if you mess up. You do have a backup, right?

>>107865380
Snapshots on updates would probably help with solving 90% of most peoples issues.
>>107865444
Another way to solve that would be a way to factory reset while keeping your user data the same way windows does. Don't remember if windows factory reset keeps user data around though.

>>107867715
What's the issue with sandisk?
>t. have a bunch of sandisk microsd and usb pendrives

>>107867794
In my experience btrfs and zfs are slower than ext4 when it comes to hosting vms even if the disk image is raw and not qcow2. You might get some more performance turning off COW for the directory the disk image is in. And while you're turning off COW you might as well use a qcow2 image though not sure if qcow2 with COW turned off in the directory will give a performance boost of if just turning off COW and using raw disk will be better.

>>107869557
>if just turning off COW and using raw disk will be better.
If you're using raw disk then you don't need to turn off COW since then you're not using the host's filesystem.

>>107865380
This is like saying people shouldn't version control with git and should just make an archive once a month. I mean sure, but that's an entirely different solution to an entirely different problem. You might as well make good architectural decisions, like git versioning and atomic updates are. Sorry, but atomic updates are objectively better. If you have any better ideas then feel free to make an OS or distro of your own.

>>107869525
I assume he dislikes sandisk because they're a popular brand but have a pretty bad failure rate compared to others like Samsung, Kingston and Kioxia.
I'm also very biased against PNY because I found them to be the only budget brand whose USB and mSD storage devices fail within a year. I've had a PNY device get cell corruption within 3 months. Meanwhile my 4-8 year old Kingston devices still work fine.

>>107869618
I thought qcow might still cause some performance issue on btrfs even when COW is disabled

>>107869783
I'm not talking about VM image files at all. I'm talking about the VM accessing a raw physical disk via the hypervisor.

>>107869712
Is sandisk really that bad or does it depend on the type of sandisk drive? Unfortunately they're usually the only ones available and easiest to find in my 3rd world shithole

>>107869557
>CoW is off for VM disk image folder
>disk image format is RAW
Still same issue with perf. Idk anymore. I'll create an identical VM but use xfs and see if it performs any better just as a test, but I'll let this slow ZFS thing install itself first.