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>>107866338Yeah they screwed me over real good.€70K student debt for a proper CS degree I got in 2020 that just a few short years later got devalued into oblivion.Who is to blame? Pajeet? Sam? Elon? Jensen? All of them?
>>107866338this rust rollout means that coding is retard-proof, so you can hire incompetent morons for peanuts and still meet your deadlines
lucrative alternative to CS?
>>107866338boomers
>>107866338Enshitification
>>107866540english teacher for brahmin
>>107866338Too many Indians
>>107866540AI Researcher
>>107866678how?
>>107866731What do you mean by how? That role seems to be getting a lot of money from tech companies
>>107866736>seemsyeahtell me you're full of shit without telling me you're full of shit
>>107866338Interest rates
>>107866338https://archive.is/GCcNX
>>107866338I got a jr job a couple months ago without too much hassle. Maybe it depends on where you are from?Although i will say fuck linkedin. I am convinced all the postings there are fake. When i switched to some local job board i had a lot more calls or at the very least acknowledgement that i exist
>>107866499>€70K student debtYou don't fool anyone, Mr. Totally-legit-Yuropoor
>>107866338>What went wrongIt was a golden ticket to a lucrative career. That made a lot of people with no interest in computer science flock to it for an easy high-paying office job. Now there are way too many people in it, demand shrank due to AI tools, and you are competing with people from poorer countries who are satisfied with much lower wages, because that is still much better than anything they could get at home.
>>107866818Underappreciated answer. This is at least 50% of the reason why.
>>107866338>sculptors for the terra cotta army used to get paid a bundle, but now they get locked in the tomb!
>>107866338A I ACTUAL INDIANS
>>107866353N
I work as a pot washer now, I couldn't get any other job nobody wanted me and I'm not doing any bullshit apprenticeships
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>>107866338picking CS as a career was always a meme. only a handful of graduates were pushing the actual science further. the rest was actually worse at their work than self-taught hobbyists.if you went into CS just for the money, you deserve to be repleced by Rajesh.
I mean it can't be that bad. I don't work in tech but when I check out any job platform tech jobs are like the most common thing companies are looking for. Do cs graduates just kinda suck?
The oil rig doesn't sound that bad anyway
>>107866499>later got devalued it was always overvalued. you are a midwit hoping to get lucky
>>107867802Not really, I was always in it for personal interest first. But it does kinda suck my economical prospects have been reduced to that of an average artist.
>>107866540Medicine. Anesthesiology.
>>107866338There's nothing left to implement.IT is a mature stagnating industry in negative trend.Lucrative careers are present in growing industries, not the ones that are in decline.
This seems like when everyone was being told to go do a business major to make money. Now everyone was told "go do CS to make money". Turns out 90% of graduates are incompetent. The problem is that the industry still uses retarded metrics to hire candidates. HR is told to find someone with 5 years in X language. Pajeets can easily lie about this in their resume. If companies actually hired based on the ability to solve problems the problem would sort itself out. If I want to hire a woodworker to make me a chair I wouldn't ask for someone with 3 years of experience using screwdrivers, I would ask for someone that has 3 years of experience building chairs.
>>107867714Those job offers are fake.And no, it's not a conspiracy theory. There are those companies that specialize in recruitment and they post thousands of fake offers to fill their candidate databases - so when a real company contacts them with a real vacancy they can offer someone to them overnight.
>>107868242Quality of candidates has nothing to do with it.In COVID they were hiring anyone who knew what a bit was.There are no jobs. Because there is no money being poured into industry.Why? Because it's all AI now, IT is mature and stagnated, no one is expecting any growth with it anymore.
>>107866678It's fine if you start doing your PhD on neural networks 10-15 years ago
>>107868269I don't think LLMs have as much influence in the industry as people think. My company just gave everyone a copilot license but they are still looking to hite over 100 new employees, half of them being juniors. The massive push for AI you see in the big tech players is a massive bubble propped up on the hope that one day executives can replace expensive SWEs with a copilot subscription. It ain't happening, at least not yet. The problem lies more with the terrible hiring practices and the fact that retarded third worlders are getting positions they are not at all equipped to fulfill. Cull 90% of the useless graduates and watch the job market go back to normal
>>107868332It may be a bubble, but it doesn't matter.Even in pyramid schemes the ones that enter early are profiting off of it.Companies don't care if what they do make any sense, they only care if it's bringing them more money.
>>107868356Yea, and it's honestly a bit depressing. I was only able to get this job because we maintain legacy Java shit for a bank. These companies never entered into the AI rat race pyramid scheme. The tradeoff is that I hate my job
>>107866338the real issue is that most of the software we need is written, mature, and free. this is what happens when you let the gnu and oss ideology spread.
>>107869191Open source might really have killed most IT jobs in little more than a decade.>everything is already out there, no need to reinvent anything even if its not perfect>meaning many times less jobs than if closed source was the norm>plus AI learned to code from open source softwarewell done, freetards
>>107866338Based. Codefags deserve to suffer
>>107866338>What went wrongClankers.
>>107866338Salaries were too high. Pic related is the reset salary that is now the norm. If you want a software development job, lower your salary requirements to something more realistic.
>>107872478That is minimum wage in my city.
>>107872478There's a few job listings like this. But more often you see "entry level position, entry level pay, requires 10 years experience in the industry" so that they can watch nobody qualified apply and then bitch that there aren't any qualified workers locally so they need to bring in H1Bs who will work for pennies.
>>107872547Then work for half pennies.
>>107867730they're fine. the facilities are often pretty great, the food is abundant but the hours are long and the regime is strict. you will get instantly fired for fucking with seemingly trivial health and safety violations, because you don't understand why they exist until you witness a horrific accident and cost the company ten million dollars in liability. hope you can get on well in large groups of males with unfashionable opinions. if you're ex-mil you won't have a problem.
>>107866810In the past 2 years the AI guy at my company went from tinkering with computer vision apps to leading a corporate AI team with 4 people under him. I don't even know what they do but the one time I worked with him he seemed completely incompetent, so I can only imagine the hype behind AI is the sole reason he's gotten this far
>>107869590This is exactly what they wanted though, they never thought you should make billions selling code
>>107866338There are cyclical tech bubbles like every 25 years.
