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Is there any reason we shouldn't be blanketing our land with wind turbines and solar panels? Oil and gas are deadends. Fusion won't be cheaper than Fission. Both are too hard to roll out in huge numbers.
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/china-renewable-photo-essay
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As far as solar panels go if we could figure out a way to clear space debris (to protect the panels) and deploy panels flowers that'd be nice.
Suck for stargazers but may be more land efficient than spinny sticks
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>>107868044
The reason is that boomers and kikes are invested in fossil fuels, and eliminating them would wipe out a non-insignificant proportion of their wealth.
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>>107868044
yeah bro lets kill a bunch of birds with turbines and block plants from getting sunlight it's the heckin future!!!
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>>107868151
That's the wrong argument, think I care about the flying rats or the plants?
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>>107868044
Burn the magic rocks you niggerfaggot. Kill yourself.
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>>107868044
>Is there any reason we shouldn't
Multiple. Chiefly that limited resource could/should be used for something else...

Especially when you consider there's enough sunlight that falls between the moon and the earth whilst hitting neither - essentially entirely 'wasted' - to be harvested. MASER will beam distance in space reliably enough, and shifting over to IR laser will minimise atmospheric losses...

Look into a hadrop-dyson satellite... but don't harvest Earth's magnetosphere as per that paper, instead consider Sol's... There's more of them, and they're more powerful. A km of trailing cable moving through 'em will push out terrawatts midway between venus and mercury...
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>>107868044
>Oil and gas are deadends.
how? its literally an unlimited resource that the earth regenerates all the time, also we can always go nuclear power too.
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>>107868151
Yeah, because there are so many of them in desolate deserts.
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>>107868151
>yeah bro lets kill a bunch of birds with turbines
Got much evidence of that?
Or do you think birds spend most them time just flying aimlessly into tress n shit?
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>>107868186
It regenerates over millenia and in swamps and oceans. Fossil fuels are estimated to run out within the next 100 years and swamps we are draining and ocean biodiversity is rapidly declining sooo... Fossilfuels are a dead end.
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>>107868218
>It regenerates over millenia
no it doesnt take that long, its also happening all the time constantly.
its a process in the earths mantle.
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>>107868199
Germans have some studies on this, they've created algorithsm for their modern turbines that slow the speed down when birds are detected and it significantly reduced the death rate of the quickly dying species.
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>>107868151
>Plants
Just cover all the roofs with it and maybe make some extra shade areas. You would need only something like the area of Washington state or Poland to power the entire world with it. There are enough roofs and deserts to do that.
>>107868184
My first thought is that if we did enough of something like that it would heat up the planet far more then just extra CO2. If you made enough of these sunlight redirection techniques you would be significantly increasing the energy input of Earth, more then it can radiate away.
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>>107868044
Because we aren't souless machines hell bent on optimizing and objectifying everything with brutal utilitarianism

Well, not yet at least. When the super AI deconstructs us to use our matter in its matrioshka brain, then we will be
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>>107868044
it would be extremely russophobic
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People lived without fossil fuels for thousands of years. All of underground carbon used to be on the surface as plants and animals.
Let's just burn all gas and oil and go back to old lifestyle.
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Air currents are not the inexhaustible power source people like to think it is, and will meaningfully affect local climate in potentially unforeseen ways if deployed in sufficient numbers. They also have some rather inconvenient details regarding their construction climate cultists would prefer you to not know about.
As for solar panels, enjoy your toxic landfills as they keep getting replaced way sooner than the projected lifetimes.
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>>107868151
Turbines kill something like 0.01% of what domestic cats kill.
It's totally horseshit to suggest that anyone who is anti-turbine is some bird lover.

That's a bullshit distraction tactic.
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>>107868044
The real reason: They don't last forever and require maintenance.
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>>107868044
the maintainance, repairs and eventual obscelescence of wind turbines and solar panels mean they use more carbon than they save. What do you think lubricates turbines? Oh yeah, OIL.
The green lobby should be hanged. NUCLEAR power is the future but stupid BOOMERS haven't got over Chernobyl and the Cold War so we all have to live like fucking cavemen and experience a Dark Age of regressive energy policy.
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>>107868186
>no it doesnt take that long
yes, it does. A ten year old knows this. I believe we should be drilling as much as we can right now but it's fucking retarded to say oil is 'an unlimited resource that th eearth regenerates all the time'. We will use it all up pretty quickly if we keep going like this. Which is why we should immediately start building both large and small scale nuclear reactors.
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>>107868218
When I was in the second grade in 1992 the state sent some faggot to our class to fear monger about how we'd run out of gasoline by the mid-2000s. When I was in high school some faggot published a paper on the internet claiming we'd run out of oil by 2020. They were both wrong.

If you want solar power and wind power you're a fucking retard. Where do you think they get the resources to build both of those? Hint: plastic is made from oil. Second hint: They go directly to the landfill every 5-10 years. Third hint: They require batteries which must be replaced every few years (if you're lucky). Those batteries also go directly to the land fill.

Good job. You've manage to use even more oil and rape the planet harder.

Bonus hint: Nuclear was cheap as fuck before the 1970s.



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