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Is it over or are we back?
>>107870506we need to act like flux is good so they release base in response to it
Is this supposed to take more than 20 minutes?
im sorry guysi have to go to classill upload modelsoon
>>107870521but it is? and they gave us klein base too? bet Chang didn't see this one coming
>>107870506yes
I wonder what horrors BFL has put into the new models to make then unable to do nsfw
>>107870521it's a turbo model, and the regular model is already outvramlets rejoice I guess, but shit all good it does us higher castes
>nothing todo so i guess i'll try that flux klein thing>see thislmao what is this cucked shit? where can i download?
>>107870524>"desktop app" electron garbage installprobably scanning your computer to collect and sell data
>>107870544retard tourist
>>107870538No one's gonna finetune some 32b abomination, this is as good for 5090 chads as it is for VRAMlets, especially if you are coomer
>>107870453https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/b4qdsf/this_blue_jay_still_has_half_of_their_baby/upper right image isn't AI
Anyone have a wan2.2 image2image workflow? How does it compare to qwen3 edit?
9B isn't too bad at all bros, still gotta do scheduler/sampler tests etc. tho
>>107867356catbox anon :D
>BFL realizing that they actually have to release models that more than 3 people can run if they want to stay relevant for localI have arrived in bizarro world
Klein9BBros, what settings are you using? i get good results but it seems to add a lot of noise to the image if i go resolution above 1 megapixel. or are there specific "supported" resolutions?>>107870601there's an anon who posts a reddit image in every thread disguised as a gen, he's been doing this for a while
Blessed thread of frenship
>>107870639change your pampers
at least the flux2 vae seems to be apache now so chang can use it in the future
I gave Gemini the highlights of this thread to get a caption and then prompted Z with it lolPastebin with prompt cause it exceeds 4Chan comment length:https://pastebin.com/XEJxkkw2
Klein skin texture test
What model and workflow are you guys using for LTX2 I2V? I've seen some videos that seem to hold the likeness with minimal artifacting, everything I gen gets melty within 2 seconds. T2V works fine.
imagine the Chroma flux2 klein>twice the size>20 times as slow>body horror that'd horrify David Cronenberg
If I run wan fp16 models, do I need to enable fp16 accumulation?
Add this to the next collage
>>107870697I really wasn't expecting Klein to be fully a different model using a totally different text encoder than Dev honestly, kinda interesting.
you can push it to some strange placeshttps://files.catbox.moe/m5nq9s.png
>>107870761oh my hecking godderino
>>107870752I assume that these teams are working at multiple models at any time, and the feedback for Flux2 was less then stellar and they got BTFO by the chinks so they decided to release on of their other projects. Competition is actually working
>>107870687is that Base or non-Base?
>>107870777non-base, i haven't figured out the correct workflow for base so i gave up. maybe some other anon will.
>>107870761no penor or vagoo?
>>107870761BFL redemption arc confirmed?
you can def go >4 steps too and fuck with clownshark to get some neat outputs. i'm done posting for now
>>107870752and somehow it has better outputs than the 32B monstrosity? wtf.
>>107870793
>>107870738yeah zit is done for
>>107870806What's up with all the noise? that background is something...
>>107870835i told it to add it
>>107870835
>>107870793yeah dude, bfl put full uncensored cocks in the model now>>107870801i think we should all try the models that come out and see what we think for ourselves. my opinion is irrelevant. (now i'm actually done posting)
>>107870801full Flux.2 could already do shit like this, it's actually noticeably less "censored" than the original Flux was in practice
>>107870806I mean does it? Have you compared that prompt with the same settings?
>>107870853>full Flux.2 could already do shit like thisyeah but it's huge and slow as fuck, models of this size are always DOA
>>107870835probably just the sampler he's using
>>107870835Someone needs to figure out the settings, I keep messing with them and sometimes it gens a very noisy image>>107870860I've genned enough Flux 2 32B gens that I can tell just from preliminary tests.
Running KoboldAI Lite and Sillytavern with a RTX4070 12GB.Does anyone have recommended models for filthy uncensored ERP?
>>107870905Ask in /lmg/
how good is a 5060ti 16gb with these diffusion models? upgrading from a 3080ti 12gb
>>107870846>>107870881So uh.. I've seen a few examples now. Some have a good skin texture some are awful. What's the difference?
>>107870928massive upgrade
>>107870928get a 5090 while you still can
oh shit i've figured it out why my images were so noisy. i was using 20 steps when the official repo recommends 4 steps. that makes it like 2 seconds to generate a single image, like way faster than ZiT>>107870935>What's the difference?prompt/sampler/steps/rng.. too early to tell
>>107870938thats all i needed to hear thank you anon
>>107870948that one was 8 steps btw that's why it's still noisythis one is 6 steps euler
>Klein 4b is apache 2.0we will finally leave XL behind.
>>107870978BFL will find a way to cuck us
>>107870978this is force them to release wan 2.5
seed diversity test on the 9B distilled with same prompt and settings>a woman in a dress at the party
Chinese will regret not releasing base, thank you Germanyhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1768480233175429.mp4
>>107870948bruh do you not fundamentally understand the point of distilled models lol. The Base version would need 20+ steps yeah, not the non-Base
>>107871044not bad DESU, good age range
>>107871044>no desistrash
Are we eating good?
>>107871049I don't think I watched a ltx gen in days. I tried to watch this but no, never again.
>>107871044Not much variation but more than Z I guess
>>107871085zitter alert
>>107871085I think we can agree that LTX is only useful for memes and voice cloning or audio. I don't know what else you can use it for.
has the white man put the gooks into their place again?
anime test or idk man i never gen this 2d stuff so don't have any prompts for it>>107871062i understand but i didn't even pay attention to it, i just switched out the loaded model and text encoder in an existing Flux2 32B workflow i hadyou have to cut me some slack this shit released like an hour ago
>>107871103You will be BEGGING for more loras after the first goon ones come out
>>107871103Wan sucks balls, in slomo
Are the Klein models editing models too?
>>107871107ai slop
>>107871106If by white man you mean jewish, then yes
>>107871117no slomo if you disable high noise speedup lora, but gen takes 4x longer>>107871122this is an ai slop general
>>107871103there are better memes and better voice models. it does a really shitty job at blending a vid with provided audio. it's a cool idea but it's just shit execution
>>107871122damn what gave it away
>>107871133I can gen 10 mid quality videos with ltx in the time it takes wan to do one high quality one, plus ltx has audio. Sometimes quantity > quality
>>107871134we already have workflows integrating stuff like vibevoice and acestep into ltx 2, it can tell them what to do
>>107871134Lol I would like to see wan do this, like legit impossible and I am not even talking about the audio, this continuous shot is nutshttps://civitai.com/images/117487189
>>107871143read my post again retard and tell me that solves my complaint
>>107871152you read mine retard
>>107871165I did and it makes you seem illiterate
>>107871122
Klein looks better than Dev judging from the examples in this thread. How is that possible?
>>107871151fuck next year we are genning whole 2h movies.
I'm tired of the retards that just use their 10 year old meme folder as a reaction image. just gen something instead my god
>>107871175i think you lost
>>107871151>no workflowfake and gay
>>107871151Yeah but can it make slomo big titty bounces!? Checkmate loser
>>107871186Tranny moment
>>107871182>2h movie>entire thing is dry delivery, fried slop, jank movement and blurry poopnice
>>107871202we getting loras and you will see
ok i lied, here's some comps.i grabbed 25 images from wikimedia commons and ran them through qwen.https://imgur.com/a/51Nvz4b
>>107871208now go see the first movie ever made
>>107871213>ran them through qwenWorkflow?
any recommendations for realistic painterly models? thinking of artists like chifudoon, wlop, krysdecker, sangsoo jeong, rui li, guweizlike photorealistic paintings, but not literal photos or 3d renders
>>107871213Lol detached feet, reflection that make no sense. Yeah I'll stick with z
>>107871208I said in a year you troglodyte.
>>107871213>third leg>reflection is wrong>whiteAbsolute slop
>>107871225yeah
>>107871230yellow fever alert
>>107871224https://imgur.com/a/wH6qSF7og images>>107871224https://files.catbox.moe/65qh7f.pngit's brittle so good luck
>>107871230fuck off no-gen
>>107871212I was being sarcastic, nothing I hate more than slomo big titty bounces. I want some fast paced big titty bounces ffs
If anyone can bother to test this on the new Flux:on the top left there's a red marble with golden stripes, to its side on the top middle there is a emerald cube, on the top right is a cone made of pink sand, on the middle left is a black torus, in the center is a golden egg, in the middle right is a purple glass sphynx, on the bottom left is a white rabbit, on the middle bottom there's a orange die, and finally on the bottom right we have a cat
>>107871244i think your imgur is shadow banned
>>107871276guess i'm spamming
0 excitement for the new model. 0 faith in ltx. 0 chance z base will drop. am I missing anything?
>>107871263
>>107871292noit's over
>another uninteresting model that looks exactly the same as the last 5 modelszzzz
>>107871292Mr catjak's filled diaper after a soul bond with her grandmother
>>107871302anon its called reality
>>107871312there are tits in reality
>>107871302it's a model that more than 3 people can run, which makes it very promising
>>107871314>sand>egglooking ogre
this was the 4b model btw >>107871298
>>107870537I have done nothing but study the blade since flux1 release. I will make it learn NSFW, even if it is the last thing I do.
>>107871288
>>107871292>slow death of wan>slow development of chroma>cool models arent being chaku'd >>107871312>mmmmmm 600gb of reality>OH! this 12gb model does a slight variation of lumen>WAOWY ZOWY! this 30gb one has slightly better chinsa rook same
>>107871337>it can do nippleshuge
>>107871337
if you prompt for film grain it actually adds a lot of film grain
>>107871349Can you do a robot
>>107871349Man glad we have some real comparisons here instead of reddit's "I got early access" gens lol. Model looks pretty meh
>>107871350those posters, how?
>>107871367meh? its garbage, their only hope is z base takes 2 more weeks to release and people actually start finetuning their model and make it good
>>107871363yeah>>107871367i wanted to get a sense of general images. i'm really curious what we get out of loras etc with this thing. this is just basic settings and slop prompts i'm working with.
>>107871396thanks
>>107871396
>>107871349what settings are you using? my stuff doesn't come out slopped like yours>>107871378i prompted for the names of the bands but it obviously doesn't recognize them
>>107871405i uploaded the rest in the link at https://pastebin.com/eBBz6JKri cannot be bothered with this captcha
>>107871430i'm running distilled with the default workflow/settings. i'm also using default settings for ZIT, both of them can be improved but the the comparison doesn't really seem fair if i start tweaking shit and cherry picking gens.
>>107871314Wow that looks bad
>>107871292Maybe low t
so uh do you need a cumfy node for that or can it be loaded by any Flux loader
>Amateur photo shot with a smartphone, two people are taking a photo next to a statue of a golden bullsuffers from sameface issues like all the other models if you don't explicitly prompt for different looking faces
>>107871526you need furk's premium workflow
retard herecan we already train loras for flux2 klein?
>>107871516not really?
>>107871550who
>>107871562yes really
>>107871213I ind it hard to believe the composition is actually THIS similar between Klein 9B and ZiT quite franklymost of your images show how much better the Flux.2 VAE though I'd say
>>107871572nah
Do NOT try to prompt z image turbo with JSON format style prompting. DON'T.
lmao, it just decided to insert the old guy there>A woman taking a bathroom selfie in a high class establishment
>>107871585Dude look at that cone and tell me that looks like sand for you...
>>107871554nah it just dropped,will take a few days
stagnant tech
>>107871593based old oogler, mite b a hint the model is sovlfvl
>>107871593there is so much retarded shit going on in this pic
mat1 and mat2 shapes cannot be multipliedwtf
>>107871593That's not a bathroom that's a sinkroom
chinks have been defeated, chinese century cancelled
>>107871650my brother in christ for comfy use this https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/flux2-klein-9B
>>107871663I don't know if I can trust this company. they seem to lie a lot about stuff and found reddit posts saying they collect your data
>>107871691do you trust random white man on reddit or random white man on 4chan
>>107871592wtf I tried it and my computer exploded and my cat got hit by shrapnel
nvfp4 is ~80% faster than fp8 on my blackwell card (it looks worse)
>>107871710please also show klein 4b fp16 if possible
>>107871655>alibaba probably has a marketing team that searches the internet for feedback of wan>they see youtube videos, leddit posts and other social media platforms>they somehow stumble on 4chan>they see anons spamming "FUCKING CHIIIIIINKKKKSSSSS">2.5 never releaseskek, jej even
>you have to either trust jews, nazis or chinks for the future>indians are forced into every optionwhat are we going to do?
>>107871747for now the chinks are best for training the model further yourself
*sigh, where's the super secret workflow thenhttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Zeta-Chroma/blob/main/zeta-chroma-x0-pixel-proto.safetensors
>>107871244anon where did you get that qwen clip, I found one with a slightly different name https://huggingface.co/DenRakEiw/qwen3_8b.safetensors and its giving me errors
can we start calling it chemo instead of chroma? seems more fitting
>>107871755qwen post training breaks down easily, zimage turbo is turbo, what are you smoking anon.
>>107871772https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/flux2-klein-9B/tree/main/split_files/text_encoders
>>107871663Thank you, finally worked here
>>107871805thank you
>>107871691sorry just not gonna use your shitty ass wrapper ui lmao
>>107871729
>>107871874make their cocks fatter please
>>107871860thanks
>>107871701>reddit>whitealso>4chan>whiteyou and i both know it's jeets all the way down no matter the location.
this is fun, thanks for the workflow anon
Huh? I did not expect this 4B and 9B release, including both base and distilled versions, by Flux team at all. And the quality doesn't seem too bad? I need to run my own tests though.Also 4B BASE is on Apache 2 too. New SDXL if the Chinese culture us with the base release?
>>107871881
>>107871860so you are better off running klein 9b on nvfp8 instead of running klein 4b on fp16? i guess the final question is the speed
>>107871832get new material lolcow
>>107871955gguf q8 as usual
They haven't modified the text encoders and they released the base versions.Unlike the earlier distilled Flux releases we should be able to beat cunts and cocks into them without insane effort.China scared them really good kek.We wouldn't get this without Tongyi-Mai.
When did you guys realize qwen3 to wai-i2i was far better for multi-character compositions than using controlnets?Controlnet is still the best for 1girl pose transfers, but as soon as you have more than one character, qwen3 edit + a WAI style pass blows controlnets away.
Whoops, here is the right file
>>107871938looks good. how looks nsfw part?
Why does this character pop up every now and then? I am not prompting this shit. Some memory bug?
>>107871982these NV quants look like shit
>>107871995he's just checking in to see if you are happy with future technology
>>107871916zit mogs
>>107872013settings issue, give me the prompt and i will try a proper Flux 9B gen
>>107871995Grim
>>107872077prompt:A robotic blue cat with large eyes and a red nose stands centered in frame; it is approximately three feet tall with a rounded body, short legs, and oversized paws holding a rectangular black sign labeled “LDG” in white capital letters on a wooden stick. The cat wears a white crescent-shaped chest plate and a red collar with a gold bell. It exhibits a wide open mouth revealing a pink interior and displays a cheerful expression; the background is a blurred green lawn with trees visible under a clear blue sky during daylight hours. Shot with an 85mm lens at f/2.8, utilizing soft, natural lighting from above with slight shadows, maintaining sharp focus on the cat’s face and sign while employing shallow depth of field to blur the background; exposure is balanced for outdoor conditions and framing is a medium shot capturing the entire figure from mid-thigh up.
>>107872077>least cucked western modelkek
>>107871995to continue this, I sometimes get a shirt or pants like this. It makes no fucking sense
>>107872093it can do Trump though lol
>>107871995>>107872077>>107872084It seems to have overlearned Doraemon during the distillation process.Here is another one. Prompt Patrick Star and you will commonly get Spongebob instead or the two mangled together.
Klein vs Z, same prompt
Can it be saved?
>>107872164Z-Image? probably not
>>107872177Hey I'm all for a new model, but it needs to do goon
Hijacking current Flux 2 Klein discussion for old story but:https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-dev/blob/main/LICENSE.mdDoes anyone know what part of this license forced lodestone to de-distill schnell instead for chroma?It seems to allow non-commerical finetuning, no?Is it the>We may terminate this License, in whole or in part, at any time upon notice (including electronic) to you.part that spooked him?
>>107872192well they gave us the base model unlike the chinese, you can start training today
le epic fail
>>107872287I find it odd that its failing at such a simple text but worked with more complex one, was it specifically tuned against kys messages?
>suddenly hear about a random release>go see what people say about it
>>107872272kill poved?
>>107872300try giving more width maybe?
>>107872256You have Flux 2 klein bases now.The Chinese overplayed their hand with too much culture.
>>107872256
>>107872313zit worked fine with square images, the distilled 9b is suffering
welp, w/e
>>107872333A still life composition features the words "Kill yourself" rendered in ornate, metallic lettering resting on a small, rectangular cushion covered in dark red velvet; a single lit candle stands centrally amongst the letters, its flame illuminating the scene and casting shadows onto the surrounding surfaces; delicate spiderwebs stretch between and around the letters and the candle; the setting is an interior space with a dark wooden surface visible beneath the cushion, bathed in low light suggesting nighttime or a dimly lit room; the image utilizes a focal length of 50mm, employs dramatic chiaroscuro lighting emphasizing texture and shadow detail, shot from a slightly high angle directly above the subject, maintains sharp focus on the lettering and candle flame, and uses a moderate exposure to capture the richness of the red velvet and metallic sheen, framed tightly around the central elements with minimal negative space.
>>107872354yeah it was some odd fluke with the grass prompt
>>107872333Nano Banana Pro (aistudio) in 1 tryprompt: An elaborate candelabra shaped in the words "kill yourself".
that was supposed to be Greenland on the map...
I just woke up, tell me chat how good is klein? I hope it's good so that the Tongyi fucks finally WAKE THE FUCK UP
>>107872459its a solid 6/10
>>107872459
>cries
>flux2_klein_9B_bnb_4bit_text_encoder What is a BNB text encoder?
>>107872529bits and bytes maybe?
the level of disrespect they're talking about Klein on Tongyi's server, BASED, THATS WHY CHINESE CULTURE DESERVES AHAHAH
Klein 4B can do pretty decent lighting and skin even at 4 steps with the right sampler and scheduler. It seems to depend a lot on the prompt too. This was using DPM++ 2S Ancestral Linear Quadratic.
Which GPU is better for generating images and videos?>5070 12vram>5060ti 16vram
>>107872535Do I need that?
>>107872557*pukes*
>>107872529>>107872535https://docs.vllm.ai/en/stable/features/quantization/bnb/it's a 4bit quant meme
>>107872459I like it a lot, even the 4B Distilled is pretty good, better and faster than any other 4-step model I can really think of
>>1078725585090
>>107872558more vram = better always for AI
Klein vs ZiT and bf16 vs nvfp4 guy, can you run a longer text comparison?Make a 1girl hold a large sign that has 3-4 sentences written on it.
>>107872459gemma thinks she has pink hair
>>107872564sorry I'll make her a pale as fuck azn waifu next time kek
>>107872587is the 9B NVFP4 here still distilled? Or is that Base NVFP4?
Anyone got klein to work in Forge Neo already?
>>107872587it actually looks competitive compared to Z-it, can you remove the retarded nvfp4 and put Klein base so that we can see where we're starting, maybe we won't need Z-image base after all
>>107872450Why it does know trump so well and everyone else sucks?
>>107872609Trump is by far the most known dude on earth, obviously there's probably gozillions of pictures of him on the internet
>>107871776Qwen is literally impossible to overtrain unless you're a retard who uses dim so high it creates like 1GB loras
>klein>it doesnt know what a klein bottle isIt's over.
>>107872450>>107872609ngl it looks better than Flux 2 32b, I didn't expect them to give us a smaller better model, I guess that Z-image turbo forced them to work harder, WTF I LOVE COMPETITION NOW
>>107872585
this is "slightly chubby" according to Klein 9B>>107872459it's alright, solid 6/10 (unlike picrel) and we got the base model>>107872609trump is probably 20% of the whole dataset
>>107871916>workflowpost it onegai
>>107872656https://files.catbox.moe/fkme0f.png
>>107872624So does Obama, yet he looks like shit.
>>107872634preposterous
coomerbros, we are saved
>>107872535
when people say they trained their lora for X steps, does that mean steps=processed images or steps=processed images/batch size?
I really like the skin texture, I think the BFL fags managed to find the Z-image turbo secret sauce, and I've heard it can do edit as well? if yes we're fucking back right? FUCK CHINESE CULTURE I LOVE BRETZELS NOW
>>107872694You can't really know, it would be nice if people knew how to use the correct term (samples (steps*batch) vs steps) so it wasn't ambiguous
Can you make them hold longer text like this:"You must solve this quadratic equation to reactivate Agartha's defenses. Quick my child, the future of the white race depends on you."
>>107872719Yeah this is too long. Even API models would start slopping it.
>>107872730
>>107872749
They improved the sound on LTX2 >>>/wsg/6073274
>>107872644Flux still looks pretty slopped being said shouldn't we be comparing the 4B model, no one is gonna train that 9B with the shitty license
i feel like the default of 4 steps euler isn't enough to converge properly and slops the images, i don't like those settings. someone needs to do a big sampler/steps comparison
>>107872784can it generate girl doing gluck gluck cough cough for my brothers in india
>>107872768lmao, the prompt:A close-up shot of a vintage 1990s-era beige CRT computer monitor resting on a dark, cluttered wooden desk in a dimly lit room. The curved glass screen displays a legacy web interface with a light grey background and thin blue borders. In the upper-left portion of the screen, a single line of monospaced, aliased text in a vibrant lime green color reads ">implying". To the right of the text is a low-resolution, pixelated digital illustration of a stylized face with a smug, upward-curving mouth and half-closed eyes. The screen surface shows visible horizontal scanlines and a fine RGB sub-pixel grid. The monitor's plastic casing is textured with a slight matte finish and has small vents along the top edge. The primary illumination comes from the screen itself, casting a soft green glow onto the desk surface and the monitor's frame. The background is a deep, out-of-focus shadow.
>>107872789>no one is gonna train that 9B with the shitty licensewait it's not Apache 2.0? oh man... with retards like that Tongyi can sleep peacefully
>>107872740
>>107872792>eulerare you in 1990? use res_2s/3s
>>107872747Thanks. They seem roughly even for text, maybe ZiT is a bit better with long text but more testing needed. I wonder if 9B base would fare better with text?
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.2-klein-base-9B>FLUX.2 [klein] 9B Base is a 9 billion parameter rectified flow transformer capable of generating images from text descriptions and supports multi-reference editing capabilities.is it good at edit? I haven't seen anyone showing any edit examples so far
>>107872799with prompt
>>107872801only the 4B, bfl is all about shooting itself in the foot
>>107872809fuck res it's 2x slower than euler, obviously euler would look better if it has 2x more steps and would have 2x more time to make renders like res
>>107872712so what should I be aiming for? i always here "3500" steps (whatever that means)
>>107872819sounds like cope buddy
>>1078728014B is Apache 2, 9B has its own BFL license.I don't know what precisely prevents training on 9B though.
>>107872819res_2m isn't slower and is better, the 2s/3s is>euler would look better if it has 2x more steps and would have 2x more time to make renders like resWrong btw
>>107872809i don't like res_2s, it split the dog in half
danke fürs beta testen!
>>107872828>>107872834I'm not seeing any euler vs res_2m comparison pictures in there! That shilling sounds inorganic as fuck btw.
>>107872826For SDXL (WAI/NAI) I aimed at 2k samples (steps * batch =~2000), depending on what you are training and on which model you may need more steps since some models are much more resistant to training
Nvfp4 has very good quality for size and speed. Useful for quick slopping. Wish I was on 5000 series.
>>107872839lmao, res_2s is 2x slower and is slopping the skin texture hard, I knew it was complete bullshit
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>>107872839You should use 7-8 steps for a more accurate comparison here?>>1078728264k total steps (Images times repeats times epochs) Divide it with batch size.
>>107872861
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>>107872832>4B is Apache 2, 9B has its own BFL license.they had one fucking job, they know Tongyi will release base with the apache 2.0 licence, that alone makes their model DOA
>>107872881me being a retardMacro, low-angle shot at table-surface level focusing on a group of four-inch-tall ceramic garden gnomes moving earth and stones across a dark, weathered oak table. The central gnome, clad in a faded red conical hat with visible pitted ceramic texture, is hunched over, pushing a translucent quartz pebble. To its left, another gnome with a mossy green hat and a bushy, fiber-textured white beard uses a small, rusted iron spade to scoop dark, damp potting soil into a mound. Scatterings of grey river silt, jagged granite fragments, and fine brown dirt grains are spread across the deep grooves of the wooden tabletop. The lighting is soft and directional, originating from the side to accentuate the gritty texture of the soil and the matte finish of the gnomes' painted clothes. A shallow depth of field keeps the foreground gnomes in sharp focus while the background dissolves into a warm, amber-toned bokeh of a potting shed. Tiny airborne dust motes are caught in the light beams near the active tumbling site. Individual droplets of moisture are visible on the clumps of dark earth.
>>107872832Can't monetize it which seems to be a pretty big reason to finetuners. Lora makers probably won't care
>>107872889German culture
>>107872810too bad there is no zib
>>107872899>Lora makers probably won't careThen we can at least get merges.
>>107872870>You should use 7-8 steps for a more accurate comparison here?yes. here is 8 steps res_2s
>>107872850>>107872870alright, cheers
>>107872908base looks like shit, and they want us to finetune on that with the BFL licence? no fucking way lol
Even just 4b Klein having Apache 2.0 is good, it's still an absolutely massive upgrade over XL incase we don't get Z-Base
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>>107872889>>107872901>>107872920Omg shut up you have to pretend Flux 2 Klein is the 2nd comming of Christ, Tongyi must feel the urgency and release base if we see them shill their brezel model kek
>>107872908is there some secret to using Klein Base? i get same shitty results. 50 steps, euler, guidance 4.if this is what base models are like, i'm not surprised Tongyi postponed the Z-Image-Base release by two more weeks
>>107872951german engineering
>>107872928
Why do we either have base or a distilled finetune nowdays? Why can't they also release a regular finetune? What's is the deal?
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>>107872965are base models supposed to look this bad? wtf???
>>107872974i have a theory that Z base looked equally shitty and when it unexpectedly gained popularity they panicked and realized they have to finetune it before releasing hence all the delays
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>>107872881
>>107872951>>107872965Klein doesn't use guidance at all. Distilled versions should use CFG 1 and low step counts (4-8). Base should use CFG 4 or so, and 30+ steps, just like any normal model. Base does look worse (especially in terms of textures and "slop"), but not hugely so.
>>107872979I have a feeling you kept base at cfg 1 lool
Does Radeon 9060XT / 9070XT have enough power to do stable diffusion and local models?I know Nvidia is preferred but hasn't Radeon caught up?
https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.2-klein-9B>Text-to-image and image-to-image multi-reference editing in a single unified model.how good is it at edit? I'm interested on that
>>107872990>>107872986>>107872891Base with cfg 4 & 30 steps
>>107872986Flux doesn't use CFG. i'm talking about the guidance_scale parameter (which isn't CFG) and should be set to 4 according to their official docs
>>107872965>>107872976How many steps are you running the base at? CFG?>>107872974Not this much, no.
If Tongyi releases Z-image base today or tommorow, it would confirm their prior petty behavior with Flux was no accident. I really hope they'll do it again kek.
>>107873003when i say 4 cfg I mean guidance btw>>107873005previously 1 cfg and 9 steps
>>107873008I wonder if BFL would've even released 4b and 9b without ZiT forcing their hands, they don't actually seem to care much about local beyond lipservice
>>107873022>I wonder if BFL would've even released 4b and 9b without ZiT forcing their handsobviously not, Klein looks way less slopped than Flux 2 32b, they were forced to put on some effort to get hype now, Z-image turbo has increased the requirements a lot (and that's definitely a good thing)
I managed to get something coherent out of base>A man holding up a sign that says "KINO SOVL"res2_s, 50 steps, guidance 4
Prompt too beeghttps://pastebin.com/5qpySq8K
>>107873014The code in repo had 50 but that's probably overkill. Try 30 at least otherwise or don't bother with them at all.
Guys, it can do edit as well
Looks like base is really just for training and not worth prompting independently at all
>>107872977>>107873063cfg 4
>>107870761https://files.catbox.moe/qeq7mu.mp4
crazy how hard zit mogs....
https://bfl.ai/blog/flux2-klein-towards-interactive-visual-intelligence>look guys, our model is better than Z-image turbo!!delusional
>>107873074Your shit is borked. Left: 4b with 8 steps and CFG 1. Right: 4b base with 30 steps and CFG 4.There are no guidance nodes anywhere.
>>107873117it doesn't. that 4 image comparison workflow that anons are sharing has dogshit settings for klein.
>>107873124this my setup
>>107873129i thought i was going crazy when shit looked like ass compared to single image
>>107873129Spoon feed us some good stuff then mate
>>107871772the 4b and 9b models need qwen 4b and 8b respectively. comfy has the qwen8b on their hugging face
>>107872972
>>107873137Don't use ConditioningZeroOut, actually encode an empty prompt for the negative.
>>107872967Destilled are faster.Base are better for training.
>>107873160but a finetune without distill will always look better, Wan 2.2 looks better as an undistilled finetuned model compared to its distilled turbo loras stacked over it
>>107873173Who talks about what looks better.One is speed the other is flexibility. No one talked about what looks better.
>>107873192Who talks about speed and flexibility. No one talked about speed and flexibility.
>>107873137be mindful that if you are using distilled and base there are different workflows.i'm about to do scheduler/sampler grid for you assholes
>>107871592what's the meme i'm missing here?
>>107873137>>107873159I don't get it, how can he be wrong about the workflow? there's an official comfyui template he can try he won't have to guess
where nu thred
>>107873235no more threads until base release
>>107873159Done, looks like that was fucking shit up
>>107873247RIP
>>107873247thats a wrap folks nice knowing yall
>>107873250how can you compare base against distilled? base actually looks pretty good, too bad for that shitty licence it would've been an instant hit, sad
>>107873247was a good run. see you in the next life
>>107873271>>10787283430 steps 4cfg for base
>>107873202You asked why they release distilled. I answered you because distilled is faster. You come with what looks better you stupid cunt.
ignore filename, it's wired up, gonna fill it out
>>107873321>You asked why they release distilled.I didn't, are you retarded or something? I asked why they only release distilled and base these days when they could also add undistilled finetune too, oh boy you are a stupid boi
>>107873325i'll be her simple beta
>>107873317if not for the bad licence we would've been saved from the Chinese Culture, why can't we have nice things?
>>107873348Read your post again asswipe
>>107873045
>>107873364>Read your post again>>107872967>Why can't they also release a regular finetune? What's is the deal?I'll ask once again, are you mentally challenged?
>>107873367wow klein base looks shit as fuck
>>107873379well duh, if base models were good they wouldn't waste additional moneys to do finetunes
>>107873376>Why do we either have base or a distilled finetune nowdays?BECAUSE DISTILLED IS FASTERholy fuck kys somewhere
kleins bretty gud
>>107873388you are absolutely braindead, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to released the distilled finetune, I'm saying why they ONLY release than when there's good reasons to release the undistilled finetune too:- It looks better- It's undistilled so you can make loras easier and you could even finetune it if you want if you don't want to start from the base modellast (You) for you, your IQ must be in the 2 digit scale I feel I'm wasting my time talking to brown subhumans like you
>>107871812
>indians and jews are already working on ai>chinese are still celebrating xmaswtf
I'm deeply offended by the fact that all of these models completely fail to recognize traditional artists (this was supposed to be Franz Marc)
>>107870650https://files.catbox.moe/lq0rrp.png
no real surprises here.https://files.catbox.moe/7liot7.jpg
>>107873434This happens because they don't tag the good stuff right? I should be able to prompt some John Sargent Singer on command.
>>107873412Fuck off you dense troglodyte.
>>107873456why do these make slop?
>>107873424
>>107873465I have no idea, maybe they just use llm captions only so all the styles get lost into whatever the vlm see them as (descriptions of the brushstrokes and textures)a cubist painting of a cake with heavy brushstrokes, the brushstrokes are very coarse and the tones are muted
>>107873465>This happens because they don't tag the good stuff right?Gemini 3.0 has a shit ton of knowledge, they could've simply asked it to caption images, it knows who Franz Marc is.
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>>107873474can you share your flux workflow?
>>107873515>no collage>no rentries
>>107873521https://files.catbox.moe/lq0rrp.png
>>107873471not aligned with the model
>>107873515fuck off with your retard bake
>>107873515>no subjectgood one retard
>>107873515my messages got instantly deleted, seems like when Ani is making his schizo bread he has the mod power to silence everyone lmao
>>107873515low IQ retard didn't even put the subject in or make a collage
Make a new bake and let the fail bake die
>>107873576>Make a new bakeyou can't anymore, since Ani cried to the mods on RC you can't make multiple new bakes anymore, the first one that makes a new one can force everyone else to use it now
>>107873617but the failbake doesn't even have a thread title, that should exempt it
>>107873617This is not true. The new thread doesn't even have a subject.If someone bakes a new thread, it 100% won't get deleted.
>>107873664>>107873665oh yeah lmao, the fuck
thank god it's midnight here, off to bed, have fun with Ani in the schizo thread guys, see you tomorrow
