Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion ModelsPrev: >>107878539https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflows>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tunerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe>Z Image Turbohttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo>WanXhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>LTX-2https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>NetaYumehttps://huggingface.co/duongve/NetaYume-Lumina-Image-2.0https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RZAawlH2ci74qckRLRPc9tOynrb>Illustrioushttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlhttps://tagexplorer.github.io/>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe|https://litterbox.catbox.moe/GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkBakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/r/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg
>>107880290benchod
>tranibake
>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>107880342Based thread quality maintainer
>>107880365zit slays again
Stinky bread
>mfw
>>107880420
I HATE PYTOORCHI HATE PYTOORCHI HATE PYTOORCH
points for trying, because flux2 can'tor won't...
>>107880325kek
>>107880284lel. The ZIT one is what you often get with an empty prompt.
so i trained a lora for flux.2 klein 9b distilled last night, locally. it was just a test run so this was 40 images (random women, no captions), 500 steps at 512 resolution. it's not very strong since it is grossly undertrained but it was viable on a 3090 (bf16), and used around 20GB of VRAM. I'm going to try one more longer run but I'll leave it to ai-toolkit (da goat), to do this shit properly.>a photo of sks woman in a tank top and jeans>>107880463you don't even know the half of it brother
Let the machine live your fantasy!
>some faggot redditor used two of my gens in "his" "showcase" about Kleinshow yourself Different_Fix_2217 you faggot. i know you're here.
>Replace the girl on the right in image 1 with the girl in image 2. She should have the same pose as the girl in image 1, but have her outfit and facial expression from image 2 while looking at the boy on the left. She should not be wearing armor.Damn, I can't believe this largely just werks.
>>107880515more surprisingly, i can use a lora trained on 9b distilled on base. these are all early findings though so let's wait to see what's coming up.
>>107880596What you gonna do about it?
>>107880596they hate us but farm us for updoots
>>107880622Interestingly, 9B-distilled came out IMO worse than 4B-distilled.
>>107880641>What you gonna do about it?Call you a faggot again.
>>107880651>>107880644I will keep farming you, back to work ;)
>>107880622>>107880645Inputs for reference
>>107880645Try generating a few more, varying the seed changes the output a lot
Wait are germans based now? Do we need a song praising their culture?
>>107880290
>>107880722
>>107880719the license on everything but klein 4b is still very retardedbut the model's training is getting more useful
>>107880729details please
how good is flux Klein edit compared to grok edit
>>107880752klein distill editeuler, simple, 8 stepsModelSamplingAuraFlow for shift, >Make the man in the front Vladimir Putin. He is wearing furs
>>107880787should be same level since grok is based on flux, wouldn't be surprised if grok was already a modified version of klein since klein is so light to run compared to flux.2
Still no Z Image Base? or Z Image Illustrious or something?
>>107880862release is imminent, entered final verification phasesource is anime profile picture man from twitter
content sloppers are going to have a field day with klein
>>107880893internet is already slopped from closed source cloud models, this won't change much i believe
>>107880814why aura flow shift and not flux shift?
>>107880814brilliant, thanks.
>>1078808622
>>107880290I have 5070ti but i still too brainlet to do this. ComfyUI is anything but comfy
>>107880912Nah, klein is so light and easy to run, I bet this very moment there is a wave of Ai slopa youtubers uploading their "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" and "OPEN SOURCE NANO BANANA PRO KILLER" videos about klein, then redditors are going to flood r/stablediffusion and every ai subreddit there is with their slop content, as soon as ai grifter entrepeneur start seeing this, they will start hosting klein models on their sites (even if its illegal), then they will start flooding every social media site there is trying to sell their service with their shitty disguised ads "how this was made?", "I made 10k this month using this tool", then ai sloppa youtubers are going to subscribe to said service, start generating the same content (anime to realism slopa), (painting to realism slopa), etc etc, the never ending circle of every ai tool there is. I gotta admit klein is pretty good, you can see right away the limitations of every new model there is, but so far klein doesn't seem like a weak model at all, can't wait to train my loras too
>>107880968you're clearly not autistic enough anon maybe reading the whole thread a few times will cook your brain enough
>>107880987I head "Flux Klein" is the next big thing right now. How to install it ??
>>107880968made her happy
>>107880978>>107881014Damn that's good, I'm sad because I hate BFL.
so... no more comfy optimizations for ltx? this is the best it will ever work
>>107880978i fucking hate the modern internet so much.
>>107881014what's the prompt? or catbox pls
reddit grifter general
playing with this new model make me remember how much heavy lifting does booru tag system do in terms of prompt adherence, hope they experiment with finetuning klein or z-base
>>107881116Tranny moment
you can also quite reliably glitch it out and get some neat gens
>>107881018yeah, I didn't rate them either after the flux.2 dev but they really killed it with klein, I wonder if they learned/copied anything from z-image turbo (qwen text encoder) and added it before release, they really struck back at Qwen/Zit, I bet the z-image base/edit model isn't that good compared to klein and they took to long to release the model and now here we are, competition is fun
>>107881147greaseball moment
HOW TO INSTALL FLUX 2 KLEIN ???????
>>107881170can't hear you, speak up
>trying out flux klein>have to test out new workflow i found>install a million new nodes>errors>no even though you just downloaded a million shit automatically without knowing shit you need this obscure node that requires you to find a file on your computer and change a word in it before you download this one>workflow doesn't even workyeah i'm dumb and impaired
>>107880968You need to swallow the autism pill and suck 3 cocks minimum then you are ready for comfyOr just use one of the forge forks, it's enough for most things >>107880968
Just woke up from a coma, what model are we simping for now?
>go to civit>check out z-image model page>z IMAGE mind you>50 videos of cartoon whores gyratingbros???
>>107881199if you see it posted here, and then reddit shortly after, that one
5070ti enough for Klein9b ??
>>107880325lulz
>>107881223typically yes
drink up
>>107881026now imagine if everyone had access to powerful gpus and ram... I think ... the government is right about limiting hardware access to generate AI tools
>>107881253sweet jesus
>>107881253well yea, many of the political boomers unironically most bothered by them getting lampooned and parodied with AI
honk honk
>>107881250I only drink spaghetti
>>107881258
>>107881258Make him wear Palestinian babies as slippers
>>107881281We are fucked if anime tuners jump on this shit model instead of 9b...
lmfao.. good job klein edit.. couldn't have photoshopped it better myself
>>107880893why is there always this harsh flash photography look?
>>107881299they basically have to because of the license? 9b has so many restrictions.
>>107881316honestly kinda sovl
>>107881149Yeah I got garbage like this a lot, not sure where I went wrong
>>107881263>>107881269now imagine if indians had access to powerful and cheap gpu, ram, nvmes, etc
>>107881299Even 4b is a massive improvement over XL, I want the XL era to fucking end
hey guys i just discovered this really cool-oh wait reddit grifter niggers lurk here nvm
>>107881331>>107881346I'd rather they don't at all then. Fuck it's been too long, I don't want another sidegrade again
>>107881223I tried with 12 GB (8-bit version) and it was fine, although a bit slow.>>107881316lel
>>107881348Love it.
>>107881349You have never figured out anything. Stop larping.
>>107881354Are you actually retarded, 4b is a huge upgrade over SDXL
>>107881339africans, asians or even specifically chinese etc. aren't very much of bother but just more fellow anime coomers... maybe at some point it'll be the same with indians? idk
>>107881380You call this >>107881380 a huge upgrade? retarded fuck
cat girls will become real
>>107881339
>>107881275
>>107881354ultimately one of the newer better-than-sdxl models will be finetuned. 4b or a derivative is certainly a candidate.
>>107881400Yes it is, have you ever used XL, the better VAE alone is worth it
>>107881339could u give ah nikka ah workflow gang?
>>107881400>>107881380I accept now I am retarded lol, Meant this one >>107881331. The hands are beyond help and details are smudgy as hell, it's just xl all over
>>107881357Slow like 5+ Minutes or 1 or 2minutes ?
>>107881387Chinese are cool in my book, they are living an economic miracle, much of the stuff you think about them is just propaganda, of course there are bad people everywhere, plus you have to see what they have given us in open-source AI modelsAfricans and indians are known to be scammers/grifters and sadly it seems that is part of their culture, of course there are exceptions, but there is a reason why youtuber channels about scammers always are about indians/africans. The last viral videos of deepfake are indians, that should tell you something
>>107881223>>107881436same cardworks fine for me, pretty fast, 20 seconds
adding film grain to any prompt makes it better for whatever reason
>>107881433I don't claim perfect inference settings but it is certainly a flawed training.Still has many advantages over SDXL. The prompt accuracy and amount of tokens it actually takes into account, the resolution flexiblity, edit capability and so.One of these models will succeed SDXL.
"change this image to a photorealistc style"
well klein failed my first test,
>>107881485ew
so from what i can see ITT (thanks for beta testing btw) flux2 is generally a lot of fun, flexible, has very good editing capability, produces body horror and illogic bullshit every now and then, and gets mogged by zit on realistic humans (as expected)yes?
>>107881436like 5 minutes, but it's on a RTX A2000 (3060 equivalent). Much slower than ZIT.
>>107881485it is photorealistic, now tell it to add a million filters like real women
>>107881400you are retarded, you should compare with base XL before talking shit. the flux 2 VAE alone and the speed of training makes it worth it.
>>107881495it took you 2 months to conclude that?
>>107881357>8-bit version???
Flux is..... Uncensored.... right ?
>>107881469Naa I am not calling you out or anything, thanks for testing but to me at least doesn't seem to be an improvement over what lumina can do and I doubt anyone calls that a real upgrade. >>107881502>Vae alone is worth itOh man it's not like we have multiple anime models made with flux vae and they helped jack shit since the model itself was trash to begin with. We'll get'em with this one though lol.
>>107881510i did not care about flux until klein
What can I do with 10GB VRAM and 64GB RAM? Currently using Nano Banana Pro but need higher resolution and more granular control.
>>107881485good>>107881521bad>>107881539lol
>>107881540>trying to compare memetunes with 10k to 100k images against full finetunes with 10-20m+ images.yeah you are either a troll or a newfag
Its hard to maintain consistency with klein, every seed gives out a way different result, people will complain about this as they were complaining about zit lack of seed "variance"
>>107881485bad>>107881521good>>107881539kek
>>107881569this ones good but it's concerning that it's favoring chink images like zit (well both are chinese companies)
>>107881539thy didn't train on naked people and porn if you mean that
>>107881530fp8 means 8-bit floating point, e4m3 means 1 bit for the sign, 4 bits for the exponent and 3 bits for the mantissa.
flux isn't perfect but it's such a breath of fresh air and diversity compared to z-imageit is clear z-image was hypertuned for good looking asian model women studio photography
>>107881539Yes, it can't gen my celeb waifu ergo it's censored trash.
>>107881485hawt
>>107881485>Photorealistic style>200% slopped with Flux chinZ-Image Edit, save us!
https://files.catbox.moe/c64ywq.mp4
>>107881605The Asian bias is ridiculous on ZIT. If you gen a European woman but at the halfway point turn the prompt to blank it will actually turn her face Asian lmao. If you use the blank first two frames too you'll see a closeup of an Asian woman appear too.
>>107881485>body skin looks realistic>face is oversharpened rubberwhy
>>107881627Nigger retard
>>107881561Which one is that chroma? who the hell considers that an anime model lol. Neta was 13M dataset, Newbie was all of danbooru also was NAI's new model (and maybe e621), they all are a sidegrade to xl. At least do some basic research before talking
>>107881627sneaky bastard
"change this image to a WIP 3d model">>107881521>>107881532>>107881569nice
>>107881627KYS faggot
>>107881540> I doubt anyone calls that a real upgrade. i do think it has better prompt comprehension, edit capabilities, resolution flexibility.the vae might also be better.
>>107881642it's either 4b klein or Z if it ever gets released, one of them will dethrone XL, it's just that, it is an improvement and the future, why does this make you mad
Damn this is pretty impressive.
>shitty tin can audio>fried video output>ancient unfunny memesyep, it's the faggot test anon again
>>107881642what an idiot, has to move the goalpost so much that you hide the architecture behind those models. even chroma was a memetune because of it's cope settings and lobotomized undistill model.
>>107881655That's actually good, looks like it's taken directly from the Maya viewport
>>107881659the VAE is better, don't engage with trolls arguing in bad faith
wait so whats the sweetspot rn?9b, 9b fp8, 4b or 4b f8?
>>107881560>>107881575Can you do a Micro Bikinis at least ??
>>107881692305b
>>107881713are 12gb vram enough??
>>10788171369420b LOLAMIRITE
>>107881692probably 9b but the license likely will make it that the 4b model or derivatives is the one that gets finetunesof course someone with the resources of an illustrious/chroma/... finetune might also just, like, increase 4b to 9b and retrain if nothing else comes out (it probably will)
https://civitai.com/models/2296047
>>107881665SD 1.5-tier text though
>>107881728>probably 9b but the license likely will make it that the 4b model or derivatives is the one that gets finetunesbecause of safety bullshit or whats the problem with the license?
>>107881692all the b's
>>107881742lel
>>107881772safety and noncommercial with many conditions that starts with creating an account on hf to agree to them (9b) vs apache actual open source (4b)
"change this image to an untextured 3d model">>107881680prompting for "3d modeling screenshot" adds a blender UI
>>107881663Z or 9B are amazing, 4b makes me mad>>107881669? I don't even think you know what you are arguing, If the base model is shit, a good vae can't save it like Lumina!
>>107881728>the 4b model or derivatives is the one that gets finetunesIt's not going to get finetunes, that will be done on Z-Image Base, why would anyone want to finetune on a model with worse anatomy and overall image quality when the size difference is only 4B vs 6B ?
>>107881807depth maps?
>>107881772the commercial model is doing thishttps://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.2-klein-base-9B/blob/main/LICENSE.mdplushttps://bfl.ai/legal/usage-policyplus arguably even picrel (surely in some countries...)
>>107881829>why would anyone want to finetune on a model with worse anatomy and overall image quality when the size difference is only 4B vs 6B4B Klein exists and has been released, Z Base is still hypotheticalIf Z Base does not get released 4B Klein is the future
>>107880290mnan what a shitty collage, kys
>>107881849you forgot to attach an example of a good one
>>107881849last thread is the same test over and over. blame the test niggers
>>107881841This cope, there's already training code out for the Z-Image base models
>>107881858im saying this and the bottom left gen is mine (which was a quick throwaway failgen with 20 errors). It just sucks donkey dick retard, literally end your life.
>>107881864Yes, if Z-Base gets released it will supplant XL. If not then 4b will supplant XL. Where am I coping?
>>107881829They obviously made the shittier 4B apache to just to entrap morons like lodestone to waste compute and time on.
>>107881836"make a depth map of this image"no luck
>>107881865anon are you a tsundere perhaps? pic related
that's a disusting level of detail
>>107881882>Where am I coping?Pretending that there is a chance Z-Image won't be releasedIt's been officially stated to be released by the team, there is training code out and implementedThe base models will be released, it would be mean if they release them in the next few days though, that would put BFL on suicide watch
>>107881912Which model?
>>107881912whats the white stuff on the hand? cum?
>>107881915please post another bdsqlsz tweet, I need my copium dose
>>107881840>Training LoRAs on FLUX is allowed ONLY for non-commercial use>LoRAs are legally derivatives>Commercial LoRAs are forbidden>Using FLUX outputs to train competing models is forbidden (including FLUX LoRAs lmao)>Selling, monetizing, or using FLUX LoRAs in paid products = breach
>>107881915Once/if Z-Baase released we will know for sure, until then we don't
>>107881944isn't the first time a promising model is killed by its licence
They better put out a fucking z-image turbo 1.5 trained on the new base to compensate the long waitIt doesn't make sense to take this long to release a base model unless they are retraining everything
>>107881829that's a possiblity. i guess it depends on the z-image-base release.
>>107881840lel>train on our model, if we don't like what you train and we are extremely anti NSFW, we will yank your right to distribute your trained modelYeah, BFL can't die fast enough
>>107881927it's insane detal. zitniggers wouldnt know.
>>107881912texture on the hoodie looking pretty good
>>107881980They write that illegal pornography is prohibited, which automatically makes legal pornography explicitly permitted, doesn't it?So children and animals are prohibited, and I think half of the people here could live with that.
so how about that GLM image
texture on my dick looking pretty good
>>107881927looks like cobwebs
>>107881944wait but thats all extremely based except for point two?
>>107882029that's also cobwebs
Is there anything like grok or chatgpt for image editing thats uncensored? The ability to tell it to color my sketch and get 80% through base colors is somewhat crazy. But its puritan filters hamper it.
>>107882063boring
>>107882034I have no problem with them ensuring that open source remains open source and that we don't have to pay tons of money for LORAs on Civitai. Its like blender software.Anon is Indian and sees his only source of income in jeopardy.
>>107880290So what are the best model for porn that doesnt need long ass prompt ??I just want to make simple prompt like "Grok, make this Miku flat chested with erect" and such
>>107882098>with erect"with erect penis"*
>>107881944 >>107881980yep. and on top of all that they even attached too many conditions to distribution for most hosts. I just don't expect 9b to be viable, only 4b.
>try a new ltx2 workflow>video suddenly looks like a strong sharpening + contrast filter has been appliedWhat gives?
>>107882091no nipple :(
>>107882098Man after Grok edit image was cucked thanks to the Journos i really need to learn to do local gens
>>107880729>ThorgalBased.One of my first personal LORAs that I trained was Kris of Valnor; circa "The Archers".
>>107882127They released a new sampler yesterday that helps with audio and maybe video, could be that.
>>107882132being a localGOD also makes you superior to brown thirdie hardwarelets who have to rely on SAAS for cooms
Is there any local interface that allows me to do the same type of tag customization per character that NovelAI has or is that some sort of patent that can't be copied.
>>107882160>omar
>>107882160I have the hardware but i dont know how to set the modern AI models.Illustrious is pain to use
>>107882042 >>107882098probably not like you want it
>>107882172regional prompting but its dogshit
>>107882172Their version is just a built in region prompter so region prompter lol
>>107882182thidies+AI and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>107882172we by now have multiple models that can do pretty well with just prompt descriptions of multiple characters and their outfitswe also have edit models that are really quite good at taking image1 and image2 and maybe image3/4 or even more with object(s) or character(s) and making them do stuff, so you obviously could make a workflow for that
>klein has sameface shit seed variance problemHere we go again...I'll have to train a lora to fix it again and still use chroma to gen seed variance MILFs.
