what will a post AGI, jobless world look like?
>>107886080we'd be dead in such a world
No UBI = disaster
>>107886080a population crunch then feudalism 2.0. the top 0.001% will live like kings and everyone else will handle menial blue collar tasks AI can't do as effectively. if you're on /g/, you're in the latter category.
Why do people who talk to computers go and try to talk to humans about it? Nobody wants to hear about that shit. Just go back to talking to your computer faggot.
we are gearing up for war btw
>>107886080/me scratches head confusinglyUmmm... is it correct?
>>107886080the venus project
>>107886103Most western countries already have welfare.
>>107886480I hate you faggots so much, you fuckign rape innocent animals.
>>107886505Which is poverty tier and still the countries struggle being able to afford it. Hence, UBI is only feasible if the majority of population is removed from the equation somehow.
>>107886080If actual AGI is created, whoever first gets access to it will be able to become the ultimate power on earth, the future from that point will be whatever they will it to be.
>>107886505Western governments are cucks to corporations, US especially. They will never pass a bill restricting capital flight thus making taxing billionaires impossible. And since we won’t get taxes from them, then the only other revenue source is state owned companies and salary taxes, which will go to zero. So basically unless you live in Saudi Arabia or Norway there will be huge collapse in government earning which will plummet the welfare state, or any other government program. Governments will default and sell their militaries to private corporations, who will then use it to force the remaining non-automated workers to live in Technofeudal company towns like how Yarvin described, and the non-useful remaining majority will be recycled into something.>>107887113UBI is meant to be poverty-tier. That’s the whole B thing in the name. It’s basic, not high or decent.
>>107887196That’s bullshit. Actual AGI will just be like a genius human studied in everything and superhuman in few disciplines with verifiable results. The idea that if you then make AGI train on AGI you get positive feedback loop, or that just by over locking it it will become genius stems from midwit understanding of human intelligence. Common argument is that we are only 5% different from chimps yet impossibly more intelligent, so just imagine what 5% smarter than human would be. But in reality most of the differences between humans and chimps can be rather attributed to millions of years in cultural evolution before we were even human. A hypothetical caveman human would live similar to a spear throwing chimp, but only through civilisation did we get to do much higher understanding. Now take over locked AGI, it would need decades of researching the natural world and verifying experiments to get to ASI.Ok and since ASI won’t happen instantly, then we can also argue that AGI is useless if you don’t have the manufacturing capacity and materials to build something with it, because smart AI outside of hacking networks has no power and is just a nerd inside of a computer.
>>107886080Have it derive the ground state of a anti ferromagnetic spin chain. Derive not state the solution. The latter is everywhere but actually getting there is a challenge most student fail because every book is using a handwaving explanation.
>>107887329I am not talking about the singularity nonsense. AGI of human level intelligence would be absurdly capable. Far beyond what an actual human is capable of. Human intelligence is gimped by bad memory, and slow thinking, and limits to attention and drive. You don't need to do anything novel to become the ultimate power on earth, you just need to faster and more reliably than anyone else.
>>107886080Depends whether the AI is benevolent and gives us all resources, or is greedy and kills off any humans it can't make use of as slaves.
>>107887432>you just need to faster and more reliably than anyone else.That's implying that there's isn't a limit to what intelligence can do and that we haven't archived it already by having 8 billions humans doing some thinking.
>token guesser guesses tokens better using bigger knowledge librarywowEpicebintotally getting closer to a brainwowzors
>>107887744you will soon become irrelevant, fleshoid