>>107897134
Loud minority.
Most people love AI ART because most artists are annoying

>>107897134
Most people watch netflix, which means most people are retards, which means most people don't care one way or the other.

>>107897134
It's annoying when you can pick up the telltale signs of AI art. The thumbnail looks great and then you open it to discover an extra finger or some other mangled anatomy, and when someone dumps their slop on the 'log without a sanity check that adds fuel to the fire.

>>107897134
70% of people could not give a fuck about anything that isn’t immediately going to ruin their financial lives, 25% hate AI and 5% like AI. So majority hates AU, you don’t count people who didn’t show up to vote.

It still takes creativity and imagination to make something with AI.
AO is extremely popular. The only chuds crying about are coom bait artists trannies who's paetrions dried up.

>>107897134
I think when it's obvious it's AI art most people think it looks samey and lazy. When it's hard to tell (i.e. wasn't made by a low effort brown person) then only a loud minority hate it because muh artists.

>>107897134
AI content is pretty much ruining the internet and unfortunately its a box that cant be sealed. I am really not looking forward to how egregious it will be in a few years time once the slop pipelines have been dialed in. There will be a time where you watch some video, a movie, a TV show, and there will be some possibility that the entire thing is generated by AI and presented as otherwise.

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damn it feels good to not be an ai cultust but also not think ai is the fucking devil like most of you

>>107897149
>Love
No. Most are ambivalent at best anon. Only brown people are majority in love with it.

>>107897134
People seem to not mind it as much for making funny memes to post on social media, but for actual serious works like movies, games and music, I don't know if people are as interested.

>>107897181
If you look at Patreon numbers that aren’t drying up for vast majority. And the comment about creativity makes me realise I never saw creative use of AI, it was always combination of something I have seen or some generic aesthetic thing.

>>107897209
Nah most normies love ai

>>107897134
this nigger is asking to get his website dmca bombed
I mean you can't run a website like that if you don't have an inherent hatred for artists but he's evidently just retarded

>>107897134
Most people didn't really care at first. Now it's just a marketing buzzword to them and see no value in it.
The vocal minority have never liked it.
I don't like it mostly because I don't want shit running on my machine I will not use.
We have yet to achieve real AI.

>>107897134
Most people hate shitty art. AI does not magically confer good taste or knowledge of what makes a design good. There is a minority that cares about the social impact of AI on artists.

>>107897181
artists aren't even mad about the models per se, but that it had served as a flashpoint to reveal how unpopular artists really are, where AI served as the catalyst for antisocials online (who are too autistic to see the issues in diffusion art) to gain the upper hand in the power dynamic.
much of the free art you see online comes from the goodwill artists receive for putting them out there. that's how human expression works. you create a work of art that you share with your community to feel good amongst yourselves. artists are just now learning that clamoring for internet strangers to love you is meaningless and they should reserve their skills for a close knit group of people who are truly their friends, just like the old days. in practice this means heavier clique dynamics and more exclusive, gatekept, inaccessible art.

>>107897252
That comment is back from 2022 when most people unironically thought prompting is difficult skill to learn and when the image generators couldn’t even generate proper hands or mouths, so seeing it as a tool that skilled artist could utilise was not out of question. Today however is different and you don’t just have AI bad memes or AI anime porn, you have fake evidence and propaganda being produced with video models and AI being better programmer then all juniors. Not to mention nano banana which even a retard could operate.

>>107897134
Loud minority for sure. Truth is, if you put in minimal effort and proomot in the details by hand (as opposed to just letting the aislop make all the decisions for you), you can come up with incredible results a real artists could never compete with.

>>107897252
I came to this thread to point out specifically that that tweet is from 2022 and they don't allow AI images on the site. They even crack down on using AI to edit censored pics into uncensored. This thread is bait.

>>107897290
the biggest people in AI all knew from the start that prompting difficulty is a model issue.

>>107897300
my bad, he's still a nigger

>>107897282
Everything you said is false. Where is the unpopularity of artists being shown? If the majority heavily disagreed with the minority you would see conflict online. Instead you see massive popularity with the people saying negative things about AI, way bigger then those supporting it.

>>107897231
I don't think people on this site, much less you are qualified to talk about normies.

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>>107897252
If they hated artists they would allow paywall content

>>107897134
>most people
It actually varies geographically. Japan as a whole, for example, is much more favorable to AI art than western nations. Look into the data, it's interesting.

>>107897134
For most normies that I know "Ask ChatGPT" has become the new "google it".
Everyone else is a loud minority either way.

>>107897302
Yeah, I knew it too, which is why I considered promoters the biggest clowns and probably lasting shorter amount of time then the people making it the traditional way. Turns out you being replaced by a human using AI was a cope and a lie to get more users, you totally can just get replaced by AI agent run by your boss or fully automated content farm.

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>>107897134
AI art isn't art because it is not the product of human imagination

>>107897347
Idk where you live, here everyone is aware that LLMs make up stuff but always sound convincing. Everyone just sends memes where AI told someone that eating rocks is normal and should be done daily.

>>107897161
>suffering and passing through humiliation rituals means le good
>effortless and quick fun mean le bad
Type of logic

>>107897329
I think they'd be even more hot water if they actually hosted content that causes demonstrable financial harm to the rightsholders

>>107897149
Nice YouTuber/Twitter opinion. Most people don't care about AI art because they're slophogs that eat anything in their trough. Also, some artists are annoying, but so are many musicians, YouTubers, and regular employees at misc jobs. Guess we gotta unconditionally accept their replacement with AI and ignore even fair requests like "please label your AI slop so I can mute the tag" so we can epically own that one furfags with 20 followers that said they want $150 for an autistic doodle of a rat in a diaper.

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>>107897134
I think most people don't give a shit one way or another. You'd be retarded to not have concerns, but you'd be equally retarded to think that you can stop this thing.

>>107897323
midwit moron. nowhere in my post does it require the assumption that anti artist sentiment has to be large in absolute terms. only that it has to be larger than before, and that the hate is a direct result of the proliferation of diffusion art.

>>107897370
Honestly anything that makes artfags cry is based

>>107897149
>this

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>>107897134
The western art community is just rotten

The AI drama is literally the same as
>tracing drama
>reference drama
>paid course vs self-learning drama
>repost drama
>pewdiepie drama
>character drawn in a specific way drama
Retold
The real plot is simply envy of twitter metrics and insecurity of "artists"

>>107897388
>inb4 it's still miniscule
when you gen in an artist's style, it is implied that you enjoy or would have enjoyed the artist's work, ergo you are likely a part of his fanbase. it's basically a betrayal of social contract that drives the return in animosity.

>>107897374
He's right though, the japanese drawing community is way more healthy than the western one
I have seen japanese artists who draw but use AI for generating references and poses, there's also a trend of "AI-assisted" art, which is basically drawing mixed with generation

>>107897134
AI is pork/chicken/filler to the all beef hotdog of human creativity.

>>107897134
Loud minority of useful idiots propped up by Disney et al

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>>107897134
>>107897374
>>107897340
Opinions on AI vary by country.

>>107897410
>paid course vs self-learning drama
is this what it sounds like?
Art school retards looking down on self taughts?

>>107897437
The opposite actually
I remember people making drama about people who paid courses not being real artists, that real artists are self-taught and bla bla
Knowing twitter your version probably exists too

>>107897433
It's because the anglosphere has moral panic for everything
Europe undecided, Asia being more excited than nervous
And Japan being super chill

>>107897134
mostly pseuds and glow niggers

>>107897149
Astounding lack of self awareness. Most people have never even interacted with an artist. Even if artists were the most annoying people around, they would not know about it.

The same can't be said about "AI artists", though. They flood literally every platform day after day with their low effort "art".

>>107897134
It depends. I think most people are mad about two things specifically
>AI art being spammed on social media for clicks
>corporations using cheap AI to cut costs
What they actually hate isn't AI, it's laziness and what feels like cheating.

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>>107897161
It's not your character it's ours.

>>107897134
You really should have seen art station when stable diffusion was starting off, funniest shit ever

>>107897542
>glow niggers hate the technology they created for their security state
Kill yourself, seriously.

>>107897410
Artfags burned their goodwill in the west long before AI became publicly available. In the span of just a decade they went from sharing their art openly (and anonymously/semi-anonymously) for free on places like imageboards, forums and DA to attention whoring on twitter and demanding money for everything. Then they started trying to DMCA anyone that shared their stuff for free elsewhere. Trying to lay claim to every last .jpeg on the web.

Artfags were not like that in the mid 90s-2010 or so. They used to be chill and just share shit for fun and to make others happy. Now they're all tried to turn it into a career. Where they think they deserve $200 a week for tracing some images of some else's character.

Not to mention that art has declined to the point now where any retard can do it.

In Japan it's different because they have the doujin culture and there were ways for artists to make a good career without being an annoying attention whore faggot. Most of the mangaka don't even put their real name on the internet. The ones that do still produce a lot of stuff for cheap/free. They don't cry about other people drawing their original creations in lewd poses either. A doujinshi culture could never exist in the west because western artists are all money hungry attention whore faggots.

In short: I dislike both. Excluding the nips (and anyone outside of Japan that acts like they do when it comes to art in general).

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>>107897945
>Trying to lay claim to every last .jpeg on the web.
Sometimes I just wanna use anime art I found cool on my stuff like github projects and sites, like it was completely normal 10 years ago
But nowadays some people cry about even when someone uses their art as pfp
Not to mention those drawings with massive watermarks

You summarized things pretty well, it's similar to the thing that happened to youtubers (4fun to career with sterile editing and clickbait thumbnails)
I hate attention whore, money/power hungry people in general, they are way too desperate

>>107897134
I'm not sure I'd say hate but most people are definitely beginning to get fed up with AI being unnecessarily pushed and used everywhere possible. I don't think this issue is actually with AI itself.

>>107898002
Copyright laws are actually much stricter in Japan than in the west. You can do actual jail time over there.

I do agree though that the newer batch of artists and some of the older ones have gotten a little greedy lately. But I kind of understand because the yen started to tank and it's getting much harder to break into the industry than it used to be. But that said a lot of them are still doing things for free (you at least get lower quality previews) and IF you live in Japan you can buy their stuff very cheaply. Either at the yearly conventions/gatherings or from a local shop if they're being published.

Plus they don't really fuck with people in the west that rip their stuff, translate it and upload it. At least the artist isn't doing it themselves. Their publisher might try to rape you and they're starting to crack down a little because turdworld niggers have tried to monetize while using AI to do very lazy translations. But they don't really fuck with groups that actually do a decent job (at least not yet).

Also when they do ask for money they aren't nearly as greedy. I TL and release one series where I source the original from fanbox. If you give the guy $1 a month you get access to everything. In the west an artfag that can't even trace correctly expects $20+ for one drawing.

>>107898003
>I hate attention whore, money/power hungry people in general, they are way too desperate
Same. Can't stand this bullshit no matter what medium.
>Sometimes I just wanna use anime art I found cool on my stuff like github projects and sites, like it was completely normal 10 years ago
I miss the days when people were just happy to see their stuff being used elsewhere and at most just asked for some credit.

Speaking of doujinshi again though: They only have that culture in Japan for two reason.

1) Artists stick together over there. They don't put up with bullshit like not being able to draw porn of popular characters and selling doujin at cost to print

2) They're happy people want to read what they've created. They're happy they're making other people happy. They're not in it to be attention whores or for profit. They just want to either do it as a fun hobby or at most try to make a career out of doing it full time by getting published.

In the west every faggot that shits out something in photoshop thinks they're entitled to a six figure salary now and they want their dick sucked.

I've created tons of stuff over the years (mostly software and writing novels). I was always overjoyed that someone enjoyed what I produced. I never demanded payment or went after someone that re-uploaded it elsewhere. I almost never even asked for donations (because that requires dox). But the few times I did put up a link for donations I was always overjoyed that I got anything. I still have a paypal account I haven't logged into for years that probably has several hundred dollars in it right now. For some reason people are still donating because they liked some php code I wrote back in 2001. Every 10 years or so I check and clean the account out and buy a toy or something.

A fanbox-like service would never work in the west. Westerners are just too damn greedy. These fags crying about AI would lock away their drawings within a container with 5 types of DRM if they could.

>>107898255
>>107898294
I'll give you an example of the difference between Japanese and Western artists.

In the west if someone tried to start a social media riot because someone drew <insert 12 year old anime girl> in a seductive pose all the other artists would dog pile on the guy that drew it and virtue signal about it. They'd even try to get him arrested by reporting him to the glow niggers, original publisher/creator and whoever else they thought could ruin his life.

In Japan it would be the other way around. If someone attempted to take down the guy's work all the artists would band together to support him and try to shame whoever tried to take the work down. They'd make a big stink until the original publisher/creator issued a public apology.

I'm using an extreme example here but this would be true for anything like that. If you try to censor them in Japan they band together. They don't care about personal in-fighting. Even two artfags that hate each other's guts would come together to oppose censorship.

It's to the point in the west now where you can't even draw a fully clothed loli doing something innocent like playing with their friends on a playground. You just get endless replies of butthurt and them eating their own. Hell you can't even draw a 17 and 364 day year old anime girl doing something innocent and wholesome. It'll just be an endless reply chain about how the author is a pedo and people trying to dox and ruin his life.

I don't understand what is wrong with these people.

>>107897945
>it's bad
>unless it comes from JAPAN
kys weebcel

>>107897161
she's right but kikihime is a whore

>>107897149
the majority of ai users are indian lmao
>>107897181
STAND BACK IM GONNA PROOMPT

artists are a bunch of uppity wankers
I love ai slop, if only because it pisses them off so much
>reee I have wasted years developing this skill, you arent allowed to just type something and get something equal
and people bitch and moan about it "stealing" art, nigga everything is derivative, how is it any different than someone learning by looking at other peoples art styles

>>107897134
"Most people" do not think about AI art. They just see pictures. If you tell them it's AI generated they'll just go "damn that's crazy. anyway".

>>107897358
Minecraft maps are art though, both the world procedural generation and human made creations are art.

>>107897134

i'm probably very because i'm an artist myself, but i think that the overall general public is negative towards AI, but not to the same degree as the creator subculture.

people treat "AI-generated" labels like a "made in china" or "contains corn syrup" label on their clothes or food. it's automatically a bad thing because it's cheap, dirty, and low quality, but most people also won't go out of their way to find anything better due to the complete market domination of slop, and because it's "good enough" for most people.

>these machines that make shoes are evil
>it will put me out of the job
>who cares if it is cheaper and more efficient
>said the cobbler

>these machines that make clothes are evil
>it will put me out of the job
>who cares if it is cheaper and more efficient
>said the clothes maker

etc etc etc

>>107897134
Most people are not sentient enough to even notice the difference or care.
Anti-AI people may often be obnoxious trannies, but they're right on this one. AI is not only hideous, unholy slop, but it will never be true art.

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Nah Im not gonna side with Mark Cuban on this one.

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>>107897410
this

>>107897134
Jesus fucking christ is gelbooru that gay really? Is it that gay? Fuck me fuck that fuck everything FUCK AI TRASH

>>107897149

THIS. So much THIS.

Get. With. The. Times.

>>107897181
>It still takes creativity and imagination to make something with AI.
please don't tell me you are this retarded kek

>>107897134
If you can't tell, does it matter?

>>107897358
>AI art isn't art because it is not the product of human imagination
it literally is not art you fucking mongoloid. what is the computer trying to convey? do you even know what the fuck art is? art is self expression. or do you think comptuters really just want to express their inner da vinci? fucking tards man i swear.

>>107897433
Japan has been absolutely getting ass blasted by nobody mating so everyone just stays home, jerks off to animes and does whatever. of course they are excited for the slop.

>>107897149
Go actually talk to people you fucking shut-in. Normies don't like it. They find it annoying the second it's obvious. They actually get a thrill out of "calling out" AI content which is why now everything under the sun gets called AI slop. Calling something AI has become an insult, and people use this sentiment offensively on purpose, often. But sure, let's pretend a widely used insult's existence being a reference to a whole technology isnt reflective of mass opinion.
> "Loud minority"
> Bi-partisan push back against AI and datacenters
This is copium abuse.

>>107897149
>Love
I wouldnt say i love it, its cool sometimes. The people that are constantly seething about it are getting on my nerves though

>>107899621
You don't talk to normies, it's obvious. The average normie has no idea how AI art even looks like.

>>107897134
who gives a shit

>>107897134
Photoshopping and particular photobashing was hated too (very much like this). Then it became the norm and everyone loved it. We're just in a particular phase of the overton window shifting