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>best video player, for true powerusers and cinema connoisseurs
>used exclusively by /g/ neets
>everyone I've seen working with video is using either the default OS media player or VLC
What's up with that?
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>>107900505
because the developers refuse to give it a GUI, turning off a vast majority of users. It would have been the new MPC-HC if it wasn't for this but since they're all stubborn autists this thing will always be a niche and obscure player.

It is by far the most actively worked on player, these smelly autists have been tinkering with this player for 12 fucking years and nobody in that time has gone "what if we gave it a GUI?"
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>>107900505
>he's starting to noootice
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>>107900505
In practice MPV needs to be assembled, which is beyond the average person.
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>>107900536
It has a GUI.
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>>107900554
works fine on my computer
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>>107900536
Who cares that not everyone is using it? More than enough people are using it to comfortably sustain a community and support and developer enthusiasm. Every piece of good software doesn't need to chase infinite growth or worry about how usable it is to someone's senile grandmother in a flyover state that calls her computer google.
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>>107900505
>>107900536
No, it really just isn't all that special. It got popular among a certain crowd because it could play HDR videos on Linux and the same crowd is also the one that tell you how your software shit for n00bs you should be using their 1337 hacker shit instead. If you're on Windows or Mac, there is really no reason to use it, Quicktime and Windows Media Player can do HDR and hardware acceleration just fine, probably better.
>VLC
VLC is for streaming, recording, converting and playing obscure codecs.
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>>107900554
In practice, your distro package maintainer does that for you. Just like everything else on linux.
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>>107900536
>>107900602
I'm not talking about Joe Average, I'm talking about professionals and enthusiasts, people who are already using way more complex software than mpv. Why aren't they using it?
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>>107900602
>adding a gui chasing infinite growth
I don't think we have to be so dramatic. With the amount of tinkering done to mpv over the past 10+ years, I fully believe not implementing one comes from a place of sheer stubbornness over anything else. But that's just my opinion
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>>107900536
>developers refuse to give it a GUI
It literally has a GUI by default. But it's not made by UX designers, and purposely designed for software engineers to play with.
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>>107900505
I can't manually adjust aspect ratio under Zorin for some reason
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>>107900565
>>107900536
it has a gui version and i use it instead of the stock mpv
and i regret it. it has load time and lags a little when loading all my settings.
but yes, the gui is there for people who want to click their settings instead of typing it manually in the txt file
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>>107900505
>VLC
"it plays everything" is burned into every halfwit normie user
>Windows Media Player
Why would you do this to yourself?
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>>107900505
I wish more apps adopted mpv like configuration. You just have a text file where you set a couple of things and you're good to go. Compare that to VLC where you have a massive configuration GUI which places a big mental load on you before you can even think of changing anything and then you can't remember which settings you have changed.
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I just compared an HDR file on vlc and mpv and vlc looks way better
I tried with compute peak on and off and neither setting looked as good as vlc does. MPV looks washed out and lacking in contrast during dark scenes and more blown out in bright ones.

Also it somehow manages to make the 4k Matrix rip green, even though it was supposed to not have the green tint. Bottom is VLC
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>>107900929
What's the point of your image? You can change the default HDR to SDR tone mapping algorithm if you dislike that one.
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>>107900900
not me, i'm more of a visual thinker
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>>107900900
install nixos
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>>107901045
how?
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>>107901224
There's a manual for a reason
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>>107901251
I have no fucking idea what bt.[number value] to use, so give me one that matches VLC, you made it sound so easy
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what's the best config/set of plugins for listenign to stuff at about 1.4x speed?

what's the best config/set of plugins for listenign to stuff at about 1.4x speed?

af=rubberband=engine=finer:formant=preserved:window=short:transients=crisp:phase=laminar:pitch=quality:channels=together

script-opts-append=skipsilence-enabled=yes

# LOOKAHEAD: Enabled (1.0s)
# CPU predicts silence end 1s in advance to ramp down smoothly.
script-opts-append=skipsilence-lookahead=1.0

# UPDATE INTERVAL: 100Hz (0.01s)
# Extremely high update rate for analog-feeling speed changes.
script-opts-append=skipsilence-speed_updateinterval=0.01

# RAMPING: Aggressive
script-opts-append=skipsilence-ramp_constant=2.5
script-opts-append=skipsilence-ramp_factor=3.0

# MIN DURATION: 0.5s (Comprehension Guard)
# Ignores pauses shorter than 0.5s (commas) to preserve sentence structure.
script-opts-append=skipsilence-minduration=0.5

# MARGINS: Tight (0.075s)
# 75ms safety buffer. Lookahead ensures this is enough to not clip words.
script-opts-append=skipsilence-margin_start=0.075
script-opts-append=skipsilence-margin_end=0.075

# MAX SPEED: 3.5x
# During silence, speed ramps to 3.5x relative to the file (so ~5x real time).
script-opts-append=skipsilence-speed_max=3.5

# START DELAY
# Ignored because Lookahead is on, but set to 0 just in case.
script-opts-append=skipsilence-startdelay=0
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>>107900505
I use this because it was the default in my distro, I don't even know why it's supposed to be good, I just click a video and it plays, good enough for me
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>>107900505
VLC is intuitively user friendly. mpv requires memorizing 5 pages of keyboard shortcuts.
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>>107900603
I have never encountered a format where MPV couldn't play it perfectly. I have had VLC have those hilarious decoding issues where the image turns into a schizo mosaic. Don't even get me started on VLC's issues witb displaying the correct colors or scaling 1080p up to 4k for most televisions.
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>>107901683
>mpv requires memorizing 5 pages of keyboard shortcuts.
lmao, this retard
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>>107900505
>dumb wintard doesn't know mpv's original code base predates 4jeet itself
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>>107900929
Top is better. Hightlights in VLC are completely blown out.
And yes, the Matrix is supposed to have a green tint. Just not as extreme as early home releases made it, and very inconsistent from scene to scene.
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>>107900536
the job of a video player is to play video, and mpv does that good
i would even say the new gui style is too complex now. I want to go back to the older style, but I can't
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>>107901740
Again, this is only a problem Jeetnux where your choices are either VLC or MPV, but normal desktop operating systems come with professionally made media players.
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>>107901969
Name one worth using.
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>>107900536
https://github.com/Samillion/ModernZ
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hoping mpv has better defaults for hdr in the future (and better defaults in general, you always need some secret sauce config), currently it sucks at dealing with hdr
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>>107900505
What is missing from the default mpv GUI?
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>>107902070
css animations and rounded corners
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Use case for a GUI on a VIDEO player? Seeing anything other then the video is bloat and a distraction.
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>>107900929
>MPV looks washed out and lacking in contrast during dark scenes and more blown out in bright ones.
Did you try turning the contrast up in MPV?
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>>107902002
Windows Media Player
QuickTime

These already come pre-installed, so you don't even have to download anything.
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It works like a charm and it's the only one which can play blu ray menus.
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>>107901133
Let me guess you prefer movies over books?
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>>107902153
Codecs?
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>>107902125
Oh, you sweet summer child. The UI is what they're there for. If you're not spending thirty minutes fiddling with the UI to find something to watch for five fucking minutes then what's the point?
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>>107902253
That was a problem 20 years ago, but not today.
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>>107902305
you can't play h265 on windows with the default media player to this day
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>>107902023
The only issue with HDR is the peak detection shit, in some scenes it just makes the image flicker furiously.
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>>107895347
Not on Windows. mpv.NET is Windows software. d3d11/va is still the default.
>>107900929
The Matrix does have a green tint dude. I hate to be the one to tell you.
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because its lighter then vlc appealing to a minimalist crowd
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>>107902153
>Windows Media Player
Has not been updated since 2009. It only exists because Windows itself doesn't function without it.
>Quicktime
Doesn't support most formats.
It also no longer has a GUI.
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>>107902305
Unless you're using software that hasn't been updated in 20 years. Like WMP.
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>>107900505
i like mpv because of lua scripting. i can watch shit super fast by doing 3x on none talking scenes and auto adjust to 1.5x when there is talking. i can watch a 2hr movie in 30-45mins this way
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>>107900505
It's a fucking command line video player with a text file for configuration. It's basically purpose-written for performative autists and that's who the users are. Either that or developers integrating it into their software directly, like I'm pretty sure both Jellyfin and Plex have their own clients which use mpv for playback.

>>107900686
It has a pop-up UI with a few buttons that offer nothing beyond basic bitch playback controls. It doesn't even have a config UI or any way to access advanced features from the UI.
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>>107903490
>any way to access advanced features from the UI
good. I've seen what happens when a klite user touches something and then forgets about it for years. so many ruined /a/ dumps. declarative approaches are better
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GUYS. When is wm4 coming back?
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>>107902626
>Not on Windows. mpv.NET is Windows software. d3d11/va is still the default.
does that mean vulkan is bad on windows with mpv/mpvnet?
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>>107903685
as long as you have an nvidia or intel card you should be fine.
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>>107903728
I see, but is it better to use d3d11?
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>>107903490
>It doesn't even have a config UI or any way to access advanced features from the UI.
how do you plan on displaying a different million options in a gui?
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>>107903743
for the purposes of what mpv does not really. even if you're running meme shaders it's not very likely that the zero copy crap will make the difference between dropping frames or not. graphics apis all do the same thing don't sweat it.
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>>107903805
hello schizo i see you still haven't tried -no-config -fullscreen
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>>107900505
No thanks I'll stick with PotPlayer.
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>>107903746
The same way every other program does it. This isn't some unique challenge to mpv. Just categorize your options and put them in separate sections.
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Is there any way to browse my jellyfin library directly in mpv? There's a script but it's old as fuck and the api calls don't work.
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mpv literally has a modal menu now and people still bitch and whine about "muh no gui".
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>>107903984
>Just categorize your options and put them in separate sections.
that already exists tho
https://mpv.io/manual/master/
it's well categorized into sections
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>>107904147
Right, now make a GUI and put it into the program.
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https://github.com/mpc-qt/mpc-qt
guifags and mpcfags stop crying now please
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>>107900536
yt-dlp also doesn't have gui
makes you wonder
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>>107900505
because there's no drama. there's no power moves, power grabs, no politics, none of that shit, of course it's not attracting the trannies

>but muh apple using photo/audio "professionals"
those are nepo people who're braindead, and only got the position because of their connections, gatekeeping and brownosing.
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>>107904451
slit your throat ikapedo
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>>107903199
why are you like this
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>>107905776
i hate watcghing movies. this way makes it barable
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>>107904168
It already has a GUI kid
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>>107900505
add a gui that looks like vlc's and i'll use it. until then keep your unfinished media player
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>>107900505
mpv is made by niggers, for niggers
mpv also draws 3 times the wattage that vlc does
for a laptop, mpv is shit
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>>107906799
>mpv also draws 3 times the wattage that vlc does
>for a laptop, mpv is shit
With what settings? This is meaningless if you aren't configuring it to be a dumb player instead of a high quality media player. Mpv is doing a lot of scaling, and filtering, etc, even with the default settings. This is of course going to draw more power.
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>>107900536
>>107906658
its intentional gatekeeping to keep retards like you out btw



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