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60 series will just go uo to 6070, with only 8GB of vram, and will be called DTX for all DLSS rendering.
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>>107901011
This is AMD's chance to win over the gaming market.
But of course they won't because they rather lose to Nvidia in all sectors and continue to make chips nobody wants.
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>>107901011
I don't look at benchmarks, how do they compare with AMD's 9xxx?
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>>107901078
That is one stuttery frametime graph on Nvidia.
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>>107901011
So if my broke ass only has RTX4070 does this mean I'm stuck playing solitaire from now on?
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>>107901078
>not using mesa
ngmi
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>>107901056
Yeah, every time AMD gets an easy lay-up they fucking fumble it. I've always bought AMD cards but holy shit their GPU division is retarded
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ayymd last good cards were the 7970/280x and r9 390, the last time they traded blows with nvidia and they ner caught up again
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>>107901163
It's still the old ATi division and even AMD's own CPU guys say they're a bunch of idiots.
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>>107901098
You're going to be stuck playing Resident Evil Requiem, available for pre-purchase now
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>>107901078
Interesting, so higher fps but more stuttery than amd
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>>107901036
The cards will require a connection to the internet and a GeForce now subscription.
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Fuck nvidia.
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>>107901011
We went from Twitter screenshots to Google Gemini screenshots, this website is cooked beyond repair.
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>>107901056
How are they supposed to win over the market? Build new fabs and be left holding the bag when the market corrects?
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>>107901277
wait a minute... does it mean the 50 series will be the last cards that will work without an internet connection. And nvidia will lock its drivers behind a paywall and you have to type in your cards serial number to log in and get the drivers?!?! Holy shit we are so cooked.
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>>107901288
he added a frog, that effort means something
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>>107901306
By prioritizing gaming over AI.
There are two markets and they should be happy to win one even if it's the far smaller one.
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rockstar scrambling to make gta6 not perform shit on ancient zen3/gtx30* machines LMAO
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>>107901011
>nvidia said they are cutting 40% of productions
>its 99%


lmaaaao
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Just subscribe to Geforce Now.
What, are you poor?
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This whole ordeal exposes why you shouldn't outsource all your shit to one company.
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>>107901011
vidyagays wil just have to accept they are at the bottom of the food chain
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>>107901011
>vast majority of consumers buy new GPUs every 5-10 years
>sell AI to data centers
>consumer market largely unaffected
>same thing with RAM
>same thing with CPUs
>by the time AI data centers are up and running the GPUs they're buying now will be obsolete and will have to buy new ones with funding they no longer have
>if LLMs get optimized to run less, then all the trillions spent on AI data centers will have been for nothing.
You know I'm right, I know I'm right.
It's the gold rush all over again.
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>>107901325
time to crack and pirate gpu drivers.
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>>107901784
There are 1080ti card taht still perform to this day.
There are 3060 cards today that will still perform 10 years from now.
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>>107901725
>pay per hour
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>>107901784
ftfy
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>>107901853
just make free money vibe coding SaaS agents
do I have to spell it out for you?
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>>107901056
AI shit is way more profitable than peddling gaming GPUs. Their value blew up with AI shit in the last 2 years to the point that only AI can save them now. They couldn't peddle enough gamer GPUs to justify their recent growth even if they had an infinite amount to sell. Their only move is to try manifesting a successful AI market into existence. Because the alternative is a crash of their company and AI shit as a whole.
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>>107901011
Dude (cause I know yer not female), if you can buy it, IT'S OBSOLETE. All the good stuff is still in the labs waiting for the (You)s to spend their hard earned bottle return money on it. Rinse, repeat. For-e-v-a-r!
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Sam Altman
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ai is gobbling literal entire wafers per chip, prices will continue until china cracks competitive lithography
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>>107901056
>gaming
hahhahahhaAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
you havent seen "based" Lisa Su talk about ai ai ai ai AI ai ai AIAIAIAIAIA have ya?
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>>107902307
>AI shit is way more profitable than peddling gaming GPUs.

For now, but for how long?
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>>107902846
for how long they want, AI is gona be a cloud service because there is no competitive consumer hardware that would run models big enough to not be shit.
The only one pumping those computers is Apple with their mac studio the rest of solutions are just shit.
AMD for consumer grade hardware failed and im not expecting anything useful in the next two years.
The only thing that could balance this fucking mess is if someone starts making NPU cards but that's pure fantasy.
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>>107901810
i guess if youre playing roblox at 60 fps then it doesnt matter what card you use
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>>107901011
>post using AI to get information about why AI is destroying their market
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>>107901784
You mean AAA modern slop gaming is dead. With a gtx 1060 you can still play the best games
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>>107903382
When they release gta 6 in 2058 after just a few more two week delays though you'll be sorry.
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>>107901036
Entirely the opposite, 60 series will only be 6080 and 6090 that are binned low end AI dies and low end embedded binnings like 6050.
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>>107901078
>>107901082
>>107901273
That's AMDs best GPU versus Nvidias middle class offering.
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>>107902307
Can it even be called "profitable" when money isn't really changing hands, as these companies just jerk each other off in public and a deal for "payment" here leads to a deal for "trade" there and in the end no one gives money to anyone?
Lets be real, these companies simply backed themselves into a corner and since they all know they're getting fired once the jig is up, they'll do whatever is necessary to keep the grift going.
The investment going on with LLMs makes no sense, as LLMs are not profitable and will never achieve what is expected of them, as it's simply the wrong tech for it.
Office drones are burning the world because they refuse to go down alone.
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>>107903473
its cheaper for AI to take over accountants, coders, call centers than to employ humans. that is why corporations are investing into ai if that saves them money for next quarter
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This is a good thing. The fast we get away from consumer GPUs the faster we can achieve cloud computing. Consumers will pay less in the long run.
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>>107903516
Suuuuuuuuuuure...
Not with LLMs, though.
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>>107903441
that's a $650 gpu vs a $1160 one lmao
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>>107902909
You sound like and utter and complete moron. You should stay from technology completely.
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>>107903583
>Implying nShitia is overpriced by $600
Moron
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>>107903613
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>>107903645
yes>>107903613
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>>107901078
Notice how Nvidia runs hotter despite running at lower wattage. Sign of garbage QC.
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>>107903613
Very cute. Now show what AMD has to offer on the consumer market against the 5080 and 5090.
Not everyone is a poorfag you know.
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>>107903680
They don't care. They stopped caring about quality long ago and stopped caring about gaming and gamers when they realized how high they could raise prices during the crypto boom.
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>>107903680
>>107903773
Why do you think it's a FE?
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>>107903769
7800XT + Linux
>Gaming at 1440p >100 FPS
>Running Gemma3: 12B
>Running SD.NEXT and generating AI images and video
>Writing script in C and Python with zero issues
>Creating content with OBS
Hmmm
Cost me half of what a nMeme'ia card cost you fucking moron.
Btw, check your account
>$0.05 has been deposited into your nVidia account!
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>>107903769
nothing, goymers didn't buy rdna 2 and 3 despite it being very competitive so now they're pulling out of it and will try again with udna where you're not wasting big shader dies on only vidya so you'll get a big udna gpu
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>>107903769
Indians like you can't afford 5080 or 5090, so I don't understand why you try brown nose nvidia so much. Is it culture thing where you indian will always gravitate towards shit? Don't you have your sister's butt for that?
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>>107901306
Amd and Nvidia are both fabless companies anon.
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>>107903647
i heard nvindians screech about how cuda is worth overpaying for
now they have a chance to prove it
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>>107903789
theres way more aib units out there than fe. its more likely someone has the aib unit like pny or msi.
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>he didn't boughted a 5090 before the great shortage
ngmi
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>>107903888
The only reason to buy nVidia is if you're a legit hardcore AI hobbyist. While ROCm allows you to use certain models and "do AI," it's not as solid as CUDA since most models are built with CUDA in mind. Other than that, if you buy nVidia for playing Expedition 33 and and shit posting, you're a legit fucking moron
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I'm so tired of these "AI, write an argument for me" posts/threads
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>>107903888
Some people out there think "features" like DLSS and RTX HDR are worth paying $200-300 extra.
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>>107903943
what's the mental model behind being angry that other people can afford to buy things they want?
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>>107903950
It's the same crowd of people who will buy a 5080 over a 5070ti for extra hundreds of dollars even though its 10% faster than a 9070xt/5070ti. all because "i want muh dual encoders" or some retarded justification like they can do fake frames.
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>>107903950
May as well be a Applefag and throw your money away because "hurr nobody does it like Apple!"
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Nvidia buyers are smart
50 series will be the final RTX series that's why everyone boughted it
50 series is the new 10 series
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>>107903978
Jensen called the 5070 = 4090
Nvidia buyers are not smart
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>>107903923
i wouldn't be surprised if local ai hobbyists outnumber pc gamers soon given the state of modern gaming
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this is a fucking comedy at this point
everything nvidia has has been raped
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Grim, some of these were under £2k only a few weeks ago and most of the AIBs were in stock.
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>>107903821
>only 24GB
Cute, cute.

>cost cost cost!
I get it, buddy.
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>>107903981
Yeah and it even said right there "WITH FRAME GEN" in those slides.
Why do AMDrones think nobody can read?

The average zomboid who plays on Switch and PS5 doesn't care about the latency from FG, so they are happy with their slop.
Everyone else could easily see the real raw specs VS what gaymer marketing said.
It's like you try to pretend being dumber than you are so you can make this a real argument.
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>>107904159
because THE RTX 5070... 4090 PERFORMANCE!!!! is the soundbyte that'll be circulated
stop coping, it deserves to be mocked for being an obvious lie that requires reading the fine print
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>>107904024
I can see it. Especially as the process and the technology become and more user friendly.
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>>107904261
Why? It's fucking genius, what's there to mock? No wonder Nvidia has 90% of the market.
Marketing is for consumerist retards, but I guess you fall under that category if you feel yourself the target demographic for such marketing.
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>>107904294
This I bought a 5090 because AMD has no equivalent and not because shitty advertising
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>>107901036
>DTX
lmao
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>>107903441
But the amd one is like $200 cheaper.
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>>107904360
wrong, amdjeet, nvidia is premium hardware now>>107903613
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>>107901036
Lmao if they make a 16 series now with no rtx it's going to be very funny. 1660/2060 -> 1760/5060
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>>107901011
Brave search very based
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>>107904366
Oof, I got my powercolor hellhound 9070xt for $630. Now I can just wait for this to all blow over and go from am4 > am6/ddr6 and just skip everything entirely
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>>107901036
And it wouldn't outlast a lettuce, in terms of life support.
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>>107904377
They don't even make non-RTX dies anymore.
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>>107901036
4gb gddr6 6060 and 8gb gddr6x 6060ti, here we go! Now with more AI! 4gb 6060 = 12gb 5070!
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>>107904046
>>107904110
Sorry chud, Private Equity and Hyperscalers justified their datacenter loans by saying GPUs will appreciate for 6 years so that means no more GPUs for you.
They have to be locked up tight in a Datacenter or warehouse in order to keep their book value of tens of thousands of dollars.
Can’t let that valuation leak by letting gamers buy GPUs for a few hundred.
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>>107902000
>enabling paypiggying for subscription slop
wasted digits
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I'm really getting bored of all the typical schizophrenic 4chanite fear-mongering.
>actually using financial terms like "appreciating asset" when it comes to computer parts (lol)
>omg they're coming for your desktop computers, never mind that they already have supercomputers infinitely more powerful than what you can possibly hope to afford let alone power at home since forever
It's really stupid when you think about it. I passed on every xx90 GPU up to this point and have stuck with my 8GB GPU because I don't need anything more right now, when I do and it makes sense I will do so at a reasonable price. I'm not going to drop everything I'm doing in life and waste tons of money just because some vocal minority is advertising this on the internet all of a sudden just now. It's pure FUD campaigns.
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>>107904550
Friendly reminder that everything always gets worse over time
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>>107904577
So what? My grandfather survived a war, shit happens. We'll still live as he said.
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>>107903473
Money IS changing hands: what do you think all the government funding is for? They're just passing it around, sure, but it's still a fountain of cash.
Without it, they wouldn't have even considered the current circlejerk an option.
>>107904550
Who even is asking you to "drop everything [you're] doing in life and waste tons of money"? I genuinely can't tell what you're referencing. Is there some sort of pseudo-prepper subculture I'm not aware of that's pleading anyone and everyone to stock up on RAM/GPUs?
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i still remember when the 5xx series where hot shit
GTX 580
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>>107904550
ChatGPT post
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>>107904550
>>actually using financial terms like "appreciating asset" when it comes to computer parts (lol)

nigga RAM sticks beat every god damn index fund and stock

shut the FUCK up you retarded monkey
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>>107901011
That's not what end of life means. End of life means it is already effectively discontinued and active support is ending. This is a discontinuation.
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>>107904986
end of life means i pull the plug on your gpu
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>>107901056
AMD doesn't produce memory. They're still constrained by the lack of GDDR supply.
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>>107903888
I'm doing a PhD in robotics and reinforcement learning (what fags will call ai basically) and nobody in my lab runs an AMD card + all our servers are using Nvidia. It's exactly because of CUDA. You don't realise how huge the research market is we basically have infinite money between the retarded undergraduates paying racks to fail their semesters and the government showering us.
>t. posting from a double rtx6000 rig paid by your taxes



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