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>>107903792your op has 5070 ti as a 4k card wtffine this will be good to see if /g/ works differently than every other board for some reason.
OP looks legit.>>107903792 is a shillpost.
>>107903792You delete your trash thread, I'm not the OP of this thread btw.
These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.>News & RumorsMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soonNvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/A /pcb/ for every use case and budget!Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems"remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.
>>107903867What is this new reddit coded pasta? Who the fuck do you think you are you have no authority here. Shitposting and brand wars are /pcbg/ culture you can go back to r/buildapc if you don't like it fag. Mini modding is against the rules too.
>>107903896how about you read the board sticky and go back to xitter with all the other spamming indians niconigger
There are no rules against posting a /pcbg/ thread with all AMD CPU & GPU recommendations btw.Just don't make it inflammatory.The DLSS spammer used to make OPs with 0 Radeon GPU recommendations.Nico is just too mentally ill to omit all the retarded comments.>The absence of Intel & NVIDIA processor recommendations is an instigation of brand war!No, it's not.
>>107904013except they always had lines like AVOID NVIDIA or AVOID SHITTEL etc.also if your argument is>X brandwarring spammer did this so Y brandwarring spammer should be allowedthat's a bit silly.
>>107904013>There are no rulesthis is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
>>107904036all the claims he made were true tho
>>107904050yeah desu there have been many periods where radeon gpus were just not worth recommending over nvidia and a few periods where they were on par or better than nvidia, so i could see an op ommitting radeon not being a shill thread. If this were the HD 6000 era I would have said it is perfectly fine not to have nvidia in the op becuase god damn gtx 200 series was a flaming pile of shit, but right now? Doesn't make sense. Nvidia gpus are on top and to ommit them entirely is pure brandfaggotry.
Anyone here actually get bit by this on a windows build?
>>107904073i have not restarted my pc for 2 months so no.
>>107904036>except they always had lines like AVOID NVIDIA or AVOID SHITTEL etc.That's my point, leave that personal comment out of the OP, and you get to keep your all AMD recommendation.Pic is one of the DLSS spammer's OPs, it did include a 9070 XT with an unrealistic caveat.
>>107904070I for one would not argue against the 9070/9070XT being competitive in their price points, whatever floats your boat, anons.
>>107904070>it's ok to ommit the gpu brand i don't like but if you don't include my precious green gpus it's brand warringyou are a brandfaggot yourself. there are people who simply prefer to buy radeon and you should respect that. all products from all vendors should be listed with no bias. anything else is shilling.
>>107904092sure, but that doesn't make it sane to ommit all nvidia gpus from the op when they are top performers and over 90% of the market unless you're a paid amd shill.Also i think it was actually the HD 4000 series, not the 6000, where AMD cards were just flat-out better and you had to be stupid to buy nvidia. Yeah, those moments are rare. An all-AMD op is not likely to be justifiable any time soon.
>>107904090>DLSS spammerkek some ragetard accused me of being that anon recently, seems they had their panties firmly wedged because of it. I only spam stuff like "a /pcbg/ for every usecase and budget".
>>107904096>there are people who simply prefer to buy radeonthat's great, i don't see how that translates to>i should be able to completely ommit another brand from the op just because i like radeonand how that is not brandfagging.IDK why im even responding to this faggot indian spammer anymore. I'll stop.
>>1079040929070XT gradually climbing up to $800 does make it a pretty bad value proposition, desu.
>>107904105>but that doesn't make it sanei >>107904092 am agreed.>was actually the HD 4000 series, not the 6000, wherethis ain't the history channel, anon.
>>107904117>gradually climbing up toanon don't you think given the current pricing environment that *none* of the choices are a good value?
>>107904117the value proposition isdon't buy nvidia (genocide)
>>107904112I've been called out as the DLSS spammer AND the nicoposter <:o)
>>107904115Oh so you're just stupid and have 0 reading comprehension causing you to not understand my post. I responded to you trying to say that it was ok for there to be a double standard where radeon cards can be omitted and it's not shilling but if you ommit nvidia it is.>>i should be able to completely ommit another brand from the op just because i like radeonthis was said nowhere in my post fucking retard schizo
>>107904135Other GPUs aren't rising like the AMD ones.
people who own glossy QDOLEDS I wanna ask you if you experience iridescence (anisotropy) viewing the display full screen single colors, R,G or B?I think this is causing insane eye strain unable to focus and this being one of the culprits of one of the coatingsjust reflecting the entire rainbow of colors due to plastic layer some manufacturers use, this can't be normal or intendedextremely fatiguing for eye trying to seethis does not appear at all on a matte qdoled, kinda cookedso I wonder if the plastic enhances it to insane levels or just one manufacturer fuck up, did not notice in asus irl but idk long time agonot seen instantly in normal content that easilythis HAS to be a fucking coating issue, seeing as for example, oled phone with glass screen does not show anything like thatI am guessing that is extreme manufacturer fuck up, or am I crazy?I had a example seen on people filing tvs too, halos with rainbow colors in the reflections or rgb scattering in the reflections, same thingthoughts?
Check THIS out third worlders my new build
>>107904169
>4 threads baked in rapid fireAlso the 285k is GOOD
>>107904160Bless the amd underdog, maybe they will actually come out with some kickass flagship or something. Meanwhile intel and nvidia are publicly fondling each others naughty bits and intel gets to use some nvidia chiplet designs for future works.
>>107904126it's not about feelings to me, it's about data. When it stops being about data it becomes brandwhoring>GPUThere's cases for Radeon and Nvidia so list them both.>CPUThere's cases for both AMD and Intel so list them both.this isn't an extreme situation like AMD RX 5000/Shitdozer dumpster fires or triple tesla refresh Nvidia where it makes sense to completely ignore one company's offerings and it wouldn't look like brandfagging for the other side.TBDesu i'd like to see some Arc love in the gpu section since the drivers are not the toxic waste they used to be either and the price action is favoring them lately, but I'm not comfortable putting a product I've never personally tried in the op...>>107904152didn't read your post but i'm glad for you or sorry that it happened.
>>107904117Not while the 5070ti is climbing at the same time at a higher rate
>>107904073>Remote desktopNot my problem, and companies usually deploy Windows updates a bit later.
>>107904169Love all your choices (especially migu) except the PSU. Should've gotten Seasonic or FSP but that's just me nitpicking.Please post pics of the migu motherboard if you can. I am very jealous.If I had gotten some inheritance I would e gotten the migu 5080 but I settled for the 5070 Ti at half the price - I got the same model as you
>>107904215No it isn't.
>>107904214>see some Arc loveFukken Chief Troon Linus Torvalds specced one in a build kinda recently, intel reportedly has worked on making Linux drivers reliable. Last quarter arc made it into the 1% market share arena and of course >>107904211 is happening. OFC intel has a a history of fucking it up so we gotta wait and see wat happens.
>>107904169i hope you got a miku fumo too
>>107904169Why did you get a NAS drive?
>>107904270>has a a history of fucking it upSTOP DISBELIEVINGBURN INCENSE HURRY
>>107904275I could probably live like this.
>>107904304it's actually comfy because you're surrounded by people whose thoughts and feelings you can understand and commune with and you're not surrounded by completely vexing creatures with entirely different values and minds like you are in the low-trust shithole that america has become.Thirdies won.
>>107904249Got the thor so I can see how much power I'm using at any given time at a glance I like checking that sort of stuff I really liked the miku bios feature that the board suppose to come with I haven't seen it myself yet because my new pc case hasn't shown up yet
aspergers on display.
>>107904169I'm confused as to why you'd spend so much on ROG and Tranime stuff and then get a 5070Ti.
>>107904362he NEEDED his wife Mikuhe doesn't need more performance than a 5070 ti givesseems fairly cut n dry to me
>>107904362>wow you spent 800€ on a gpu instead of 3k €>what are you insane?
>>107904367ah he is a tranny faggot. i understand now.
>>107904362
>>107904349Should have gotten the Miku PSU since it's also a Thor with that feature.
>>107904378There's nothing AGP about loving a 2d woman.
Asus is coming with dual mode 1440p/5k monitor It's somewhat enticing, but I'm worried that 5k at 27" might be too small. I'd like to hear discussion on this, why is high dpi popular, when it shits the bed on windows environment/apps (even those that support scaling things are better when you don't need to rely on it)I'm hoping asus will make 32" model of this monitor, that one I might buy
>TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY>ai slop>shitpost spam just for the sake for itbeing online is like hell these days huh.
>>107904393konata is a minor
>>107904397she's 18.
>>107904337That's not really much of my concern being a shut-in, but I guess that's nice.
>>107904400no she isnt
>>107904393faggot lights = trannyglass side panel = trans of some sortanime = also a tranny or smthnah. he def is a faggot, tranny or pedo of some sort. goes hand in hand really.>>107904395shut up nigger
>>107904403ia hallucinations: 1your diarrhea-addled indian brain: 0
>>107904414>iaesl moment
>>107904394from what I remember people claimed high dpi can serve as AA replacement. I personally didn't see it when I tried a 27" 4k. I prefer 1440p with higher fps but that's a matter of taste
>>1079043705080 is like $1200.
>>107904441maybe if it was 24gb vram but at 16gb buying it is goofy at the prices its being sold at
>>107904275Sadly no every time I check for the Miku Fumo I want it's out of stock or from some untrustworthy seller
>>107904461Based fumo collector.
>>107904461be sure to get nigger cirno too. no collection is complete without her.
>>107904249Here's the backside too
anons....
>>107904423nah bro that was clearly reference to the superior imperial agent campaign in swtor
>>107904528very few people in this thread buy hard drives. I have 5x 18tb myself but im fairly confident none of them will die during this fiasco... if one happens to croak i may just have to ride it out for a bit anyway before replacing it, it is what it is though.
>>107904528>seagatenothing of value was lost>hdd>not sata ssdwaste of time
>>107904528The money has to come from somewhere and unless the entirety of india subs to openat at 50$ a month the investments will die down eventuallyits just another cryptoboom or another covid
>>107904540What do you need that much storage for?
>>107904549it's coming from boomers and govt ghouls who are desperate to have ai do the job zoomlennials can't and support them in their eternal leeching off this planet. Subsidies can go on for trillions of dollars now that orange man believes Cleverbot is the next fucking nuclear arm's race. We are fucked. It's over.
>>107904540>>107904546>>107904549i >>107904528 need to stop reading the news>>107904565cat pictures you fool
Guys, I'm kinda thinking about returning my 5060 ti 16gb and getting a 5070 instead, but it only having 12 gb of ram is kinda weird, but at the same time I've seen it's better at generating sloppa by a lot, should I do it or not? The price difference is 170 usd, I'm still not sure if I can return it tho, will have to check out that first, what I'm scared about is the 6000 series being super expensive due to ram shortages, cuz another alternative would be selling the 5060 TI and upgrading to a 6000 series card, but I'm scared of them being super expensive due to the price ram crisis, once they eventually release
Why are we letting a pedo obsessed with little girls in Japanese cartoons meant for children bake all the threads?
>>107904411>anime = also a tranny or smth
>>107904598If you're buying 5070, get the TI with 16gb vram. If you can't do that, keep the 5060 ti
>>107904598nicoposting
>>107904598Nvm guys, I can't return the 5060 TI anymore
Is ray tracing still a meme in 2026 or it's actually relevant and you should build with RT in mind? Feels like lots of games still use SSR which is fuck awful and inaccurate as hell for reflections. A good chunk of games use UE5's slop too.
>>107904615the one anime i see is from faggots that come from /a/ and /lgbt/ so yeah. go back there.
Why are we letting a pedo obsessed with a little girl in Japanese cartoon meant for children bake all the threads?
>>107904614anime website moron
>>107904618Yeah no, the price difference between the 5070 and the 5070 ti is too much where I live, I guess I'll just ride the 5060 TI like you say and sell it eventually >>107904627But I'm a nicotroon hater, wdym
>>107904394>>107904430Can you think of any other reasons why this high ppi stuff might be getting pushed on windows? It doesn't work in 99% of usecases (daw, gaming, video editing) so I can't understand why would there be need for high PPI monitors on an environment where it doesn't work.
>>107904642the 5060 TI is better for AI than the 5070 because it can fit bigger models, why not you go to the AI based general and ask them
>>107904627Also that's missinfo rage bait caused by the australian faggots at hardware unboxing
>>107904627nvw those assholes can't be bothered to update their spam, endgadget must be run by actual faggots.>>107904642>But I'mmy apologies, it looks like the garbage it spews to spam up the threads
>>107904653You're right, the little I know about the sloppa generation is some benchmarks that have been posted here, but I don't know the context behind them
>>107904658the 5060 TI spam is literally nicotroon, some days he obssesses over the 5080 poster, other days is about the 5070 ti (4080 super is better) Probably the only card that he does nto autistically concern trolls is the 5070 (probably because he is confident his 9070 XT is better than it)
>>107904349>>107904380Very cool thanks for posting.What case? Will you put the migu stickers on the case?Hope everything goes well.
>>107904674What-ever. No one is posting /pcbg/ anyway because the only ones that can can afford new stuff are the ones who peddle their /trooning/ >>107904609 for shekels online.
>>107904674>9070 XTIs more performant than a base 5070, correct or not?
Is smearing on cheaper VAs really that big of an issue? Id like better blacks but don't know how I feel about paying over 100 dollars more for a mini led.
>>107904575quick fyithe chips will wind up sold usedchinese grey (???) market dimms will have used chips.the REAL threat is lack if ddr6 motherboards, since few will be made.the double real threat is ddr7 or whatever they'll call it: no consumer support at all, like server gpu sockets
>>107904708va ghosting was abso-fucking-lutely horrendous when i last checked maybe it got better idk
okayI builted the computernow how do I stream games from it to my big screen TV
>>107904694sour grapes
>>107904673Just enjoy your card anon , everyone that does not have a modern one is fucked, the 5070 is good, the 5060 ti 16gb is good, the 5080 is good, the 5090 is good, Games are not gonna get harder too run faster than what DLSS becomes better,
>>107904708its not that bad I own samsung g6 va and it has a bigger problem with scanlines making certain colors look badTheres some newer vas using similar patents but its only a handful, usually they also come with miniledsIf you buy the worst vas they're terrible, if you buy correct ones they're ok.
>>107904708VA smearing is like playing on 20ms monitor, I would imagine. You might as well buy some cheap 60hz monitor, VA ghosting is that badOn the plus side you can use 4x framegen on games, cause when you're at VA ghosting, some additional input lag doesn't hurt that much
guys is this the right app? the google ai linked me to this when I clicked on moonlight
the p12 is better than the p12 pro
>>107904703Depends on the load, for running local models where you can levereage low precision data quants like nvfp4? noFor modern gaming where you are forced to upscale if you want high refresh rate or 4k? Not anymore bncause of how good DLSS 4.5 isFor playing 1080p competitive games? Yes, AMD does have the advantage of lower overhead and you'll be running them on native or no AA
>>107904742
>>107904749you need the p12 pro max
>>107904715>>107904736>>107904740Thanks guys ur dick is huge.
>asus announced they're shifting focus to aiAnother one fallsCherish your last ever pc
>>107904761the p12 is more than adequate
>>107904708sure, yes, but it's good because it reduces flicker that entrains to whatever the refresh rate isnever listen to in game music.classical only (pre-19th)
>>107904740:^) non-va flicker is so bad it reduces scores
>>107904772I always prefer asus/gigabyte for my mobo but i think i'll move to MSI for my zen 6/nova lake upgrade
>>107904796Eve Online's soundtrack is transcendent and competes even with classical imo.Shame I disable sound for performance reasons.
PC died yesterday. Today I bought a 5070ti, ryzen 7 and the rest of the parts. Feels like gaming is really under siege from every angle. Massive shortage is about to hit and the hardware is going to be extremely expensive it seems. RAM is just the beginning apparently. It's all so tiresome. They clearly want people on cloud gaming. Hopefully by the time my next build dies I'll be no longer into video games. The future looks unbearable in every sense. Even past times will be practically impossible to enjoy.
>>107904813MSI might be autistic enough not to abandon gamers. Theyre not a big player anyway and they're more entrenched in that stuff brand-wise. Asus is a big boy not surprised to see it leave.
>>107904815I'm not going on "sounds good" here.allways metamax
what if they made 5070 ti but with gddr6x instead of gddr7
>>107904281I like to hoard>>107904362spending a lot more money for very little performance increase felt like it was not worth it>>107904392didn't get it because they took a psu painted it then slapped an additonal $200 bucks then they called it the miku edition
What happens if I need to RMA my card now?
I love my 5090, fast RAM, and OLED.
>>107904889I also make lots of AI goon for myself ;)
>>107904887If the company isn't shit, they have a stock held for such cases. The keyword is "if."
>>107904875>A lot more money for little performance increase.>Spends $600 on a MOBO.
You know when I'm jerking off to my AI goon porn what makes me hardest isn't the porn itself, it is the thought of VRAMlets and RAMlets crying about me online.
>>107904875>I like to hoardOh yeah I get that, cause same, but would think it'd be better to put that into a NAS or some other computer you don't mind keeping on 24/7. Maybe you just keep yours on 24/7 anyway. I usually try to put my gaming pc to sleep when not in use and then shut it down like once a week.I wanted to get another NAS drive myself but fuck those prices.
We could just cull the AI dorks and abusive capitalists. That way we can still have the luxury of own pc parts in 10 years time.
>>107904941Gonna be the other way around sweaty
When China invades Taiwan and cancels all of altman's orders what is he going to do then. Back to being wedgied and tripped over by real men? Xi get your fucking shit together.
>>107904907Having Miku greet me when booting up and on the bios is worth it
>>107904955fuck off to /pol/ with your spammy bullshit
>>107904955Trump will bail them out. They say such nice things about him. :)
>>107904959>Miku calling you a broke boy for only having a 5070Ti and not the Miku Edition 5090.Lmao. Sorry bro, she's with somebody else.
>>107904955>leftie wants big xi cock to save himyou lost
>>107904960>>107904961>>107904991Xi going to liberate the ram back into public ownership like the true communist stud he is. No chips for chuds though! You'll be limited to ps2's and game cubes.
>>107904889W or QD?
>>107904887These video card manufacturers are going to find any reason to void the warranty, even minor dents.
>>107905016Woman
Waitfags how we feeling?
>>107905017>going to find any reason to void the warrantyThis is not a phenomena that is restricted to GPU manufacturers though. Best of luck, anons.
>>107905016W. QD has fringing.
>>107904875>didn't get it because they took a psu painted it then slapped an additonal $200 bucks then they called it the miku editionCouldn't you say that about the whole Miku line they did? I think that Miku one is 1200w too at least.
>>107905030
>>107905046:(
>>107904820You just need dosbox emulator to run Tyrian2000
>>107905045Mobo has a custom miku boot up and a custom miku bios also had miku art and miku light up decals on the motherboard the PSU is literally a the regular one but painted teal psu feels very low effort in it
>>107905030I learned my lesson with the 4090. Never again. 90 series cards only go up in value. Buy when available and consider it an investment.
this Miku motherboard sounding kinda nice
>>107905064It's a PSU. What options would you want?
I really should have bought a 5090. I haven't even used more than 20% of my 5070ti at any point in time but the 5090 is basically free at very worst if you have the money to put into it, which I doThen again when I bought during black Friday the price was probably already high
Does the brand of ram matter?I found a reasonable 32GB stick viper venom or whatever
>>107905082Miku on the PSUMiku on the cablesLittle Miku animation drawn on the fan so it looks like she's running when the fan is spinning or something like that
>>107905091Woot had Gigabyte Gaming OC 5090s for $2600 during Christmas time. I almost bought a back up.
>>107905082Something to warrant paying an extra 200 for the the same PSU but in teal image if Noctua instead of charging 10 extra dollars for their black but 100 Miku PSU didn't feel very Miku
>>107905102
>>107905017>meanwhile, be me in 2000s , with 8800 ultra>do little bit of overclocking , forgot name of program but some hair mesh looking thing>go test on TF2 ... get weird christmas colors and the GPU is dead>contact store I bought it from, say "it's dead">no more stock of 8800 ultra available, I'm sorry anon>the store send me 280 gtx insteadI may have got lucky, but I felt epic when I got a better gpu for free.
>>107904169what does the motherboard look like?
>full miku pc costs 5500 europoorsFuck
why cant eu make gpu
Just upgraded my GPU. Is this normal? I have a PCIE 4.0 motherboard, so it should be 32 GT/s instead of 16, right?
>>107905182No
>>107905181>the world's main company that makes the machines that make chips is European>European fabbing is lightyears behind anyone elsesomething something overregulation something something stagnant innovation something something
>>107905035I don't notice fringing on both honestly
Not having your own chip factories is a risk to national security.
>>107905212Thanks. I must have misread something.
>>107905181eu's entire tech sector is a joke.
>>107905182>>107905212>it's over before it even beganwomp womp, time to return the motherboard
>>107905246There is basically no appreciable performance difference between PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 for GPUs.
What is stopping you buying a fuck load of GPU's right now to flip in 9 months for almost double?
>>107905246>>107905253You need at least a 5090 to start noticing performance reductions on PCIE GEN 3. there is none on gen 4 or 5.
>>107905230Either is fine. It's just more likely on QD.
>>107905181There wasn't this much demand for advanced semiconductors back when Europe and America had more semiconductor fabs.It's also too costly to R&D advanced chip production. A bad chip development decision almost took out Intel.
>>107905261There are none for sale. Three months ago was the time to do such.
>>107905280I literally just bought one for myself. There are loads. Sounds like you're poor lol.
>>107905289Na. I have a water blocked 5090. The 5090 is what you want for max resale value, and none are available.
>>107905181Because other countries made them, that's what global trade is for.
