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Previous: >>107901290
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>>107903792
your op has 5070 ti as a 4k card wtf
fine this will be good to see if /g/ works differently than every other board for some reason.
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OP looks legit.

>>107903792 is a shillpost.
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>>107903792
You delete your trash thread, I'm not the OP of this thread btw.
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These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.


>PSU Reviews
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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!

Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.

Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems"

remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.
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>>107903867
What is this new reddit coded pasta? Who the fuck do you think you are you have no authority here. Shitposting and brand wars are /pcbg/ culture you can go back to r/buildapc if you don't like it fag. Mini modding is against the rules too.
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>>107903896
how about you read the board sticky and go back to xitter with all the other spamming indians niconigger
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There are no rules against posting a /pcbg/ thread with all AMD CPU & GPU recommendations btw.
Just don't make it inflammatory.
The DLSS spammer used to make OPs with 0 Radeon GPU recommendations.
Nico is just too mentally ill to omit all the retarded comments.

>The absence of Intel & NVIDIA processor recommendations is an instigation of brand war!
No, it's not.
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>>107904013
except they always had lines like AVOID NVIDIA or AVOID SHITTEL etc.
also if your argument is
>X brandwarring spammer did this so Y brandwarring spammer should be allowed
that's a bit silly.
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>>107904013
>There are no rules
this is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
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>>107904036
all the claims he made were true tho
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>>107904050
yeah desu there have been many periods where radeon gpus were just not worth recommending over nvidia and a few periods where they were on par or better than nvidia, so i could see an op ommitting radeon not being a shill thread. If this were the HD 6000 era I would have said it is perfectly fine not to have nvidia in the op becuase god damn gtx 200 series was a flaming pile of shit, but right now? Doesn't make sense. Nvidia gpus are on top and to ommit them entirely is pure brandfaggotry.
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Anyone here actually get bit by this on a windows build?
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>>107904073
i have not restarted my pc for 2 months so no.
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>>107904036
>except they always had lines like AVOID NVIDIA or AVOID SHITTEL etc.
That's my point, leave that personal comment out of the OP, and you get to keep your all AMD recommendation.
Pic is one of the DLSS spammer's OPs, it did include a 9070 XT with an unrealistic caveat.
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>>107904070
I for one would not argue against the 9070/9070XT being competitive in their price points, whatever floats your boat, anons.
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>>107904070
>it's ok to ommit the gpu brand i don't like but if you don't include my precious green gpus it's brand warring
you are a brandfaggot yourself. there are people who simply prefer to buy radeon and you should respect that. all products from all vendors should be listed with no bias. anything else is shilling.
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>>107904092
sure, but that doesn't make it sane to ommit all nvidia gpus from the op when they are top performers and over 90% of the market unless you're a paid amd shill.

Also i think it was actually the HD 4000 series, not the 6000, where AMD cards were just flat-out better and you had to be stupid to buy nvidia. Yeah, those moments are rare. An all-AMD op is not likely to be justifiable any time soon.
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>>107904090
>DLSS spammer
kek some ragetard accused me of being that anon recently, seems they had their panties firmly wedged because of it. I only spam stuff like "a /pcbg/ for every usecase and budget".
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>>107904096
>there are people who simply prefer to buy radeon
that's great, i don't see how that translates to
>i should be able to completely ommit another brand from the op just because i like radeon
and how that is not brandfagging.

IDK why im even responding to this faggot indian spammer anymore. I'll stop.
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>>107904092
9070XT gradually climbing up to $800 does make it a pretty bad value proposition, desu.
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>>107904105
>but that doesn't make it sane
i >>107904092 am agreed.

>was actually the HD 4000 series, not the 6000, where
this ain't the history channel, anon.
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>>107904117
>gradually climbing up to
anon don't you think given the current pricing environment that *none* of the choices are a good value?
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>>107904117
the value proposition is

don't buy nvidia (genocide)
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>>107904112
I've been called out as the DLSS spammer AND the nicoposter <:o)
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>>107904115
Oh so you're just stupid and have 0 reading comprehension causing you to not understand my post. I responded to you trying to say that it was ok for there to be a double standard where radeon cards can be omitted and it's not shilling but if you ommit nvidia it is.
>>i should be able to completely ommit another brand from the op just because i like radeon
this was said nowhere in my post fucking retard schizo
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>>107904135
Other GPUs aren't rising like the AMD ones.
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people who own glossy QDOLEDS I wanna ask you if you experience iridescence (anisotropy) viewing the display full screen single colors, R,G or B?
I think this is causing insane eye strain unable to focus and this being one of the culprits of one of the coatings
just reflecting the entire rainbow of colors due to plastic layer some manufacturers use, this can't be normal or intended
extremely fatiguing for eye trying to see

this does not appear at all on a matte qdoled, kinda cooked

so I wonder if the plastic enhances it to insane levels or just one manufacturer fuck up, did not notice in asus irl but idk long time ago

not seen instantly in normal content that easily

this HAS to be a fucking coating issue, seeing as for example, oled phone with glass screen does not show anything like that

I am guessing that is extreme manufacturer fuck up, or am I crazy?

I had a example seen on people filing tvs too, halos with rainbow colors in the reflections or rgb scattering in the reflections, same thing

thoughts?
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Check THIS out third worlders my new build
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>>107904169
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>4 threads baked in rapid fire

Also the 285k is GOOD
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>>107904160
Bless the amd underdog, maybe they will actually come out with some kickass flagship or something. Meanwhile intel and nvidia are publicly fondling each others naughty bits and intel gets to use some nvidia chiplet designs for future works.
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>>107904126
it's not about feelings to me, it's about data. When it stops being about data it becomes brandwhoring
>GPU
There's cases for Radeon and Nvidia so list them both.
>CPU
There's cases for both AMD and Intel so list them both.

this isn't an extreme situation like AMD RX 5000/Shitdozer dumpster fires or triple tesla refresh Nvidia where it makes sense to completely ignore one company's offerings and it wouldn't look like brandfagging for the other side.

TBDesu i'd like to see some Arc love in the gpu section since the drivers are not the toxic waste they used to be either and the price action is favoring them lately, but I'm not comfortable putting a product I've never personally tried in the op...

>>107904152
didn't read your post but i'm glad for you or sorry that it happened.
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>>107904117
Not while the 5070ti is climbing at the same time at a higher rate
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>>107904073
>Remote desktop
Not my problem, and companies usually deploy Windows updates a bit later.
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>>107904169
Love all your choices (especially migu) except the PSU. Should've gotten Seasonic or FSP but that's just me nitpicking.

Please post pics of the migu motherboard if you can. I am very jealous.

If I had gotten some inheritance I would e gotten the migu 5080 but I settled for the 5070 Ti at half the price - I got the same model as you
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>>107904215
No it isn't.
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>>107904214
>see some Arc love
Fukken Chief Troon Linus Torvalds specced one in a build kinda recently, intel reportedly has worked on making Linux drivers reliable. Last quarter arc made it into the 1% market share arena and of course >>107904211 is happening. OFC intel has a a history of fucking it up so we gotta wait and see wat happens.
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>>107904169
i hope you got a miku fumo too
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>>107904169
Why did you get a NAS drive?
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>>107904270
>has a a history of fucking it up
STOP DISBELIEVING

BURN INCENSE HURRY
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>>107904275
I could probably live like this.
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>>107904304
it's actually comfy because you're surrounded by people whose thoughts and feelings you can understand and commune with and you're not surrounded by completely vexing creatures with entirely different values and minds like you are in the low-trust shithole that america has become.

Thirdies won.
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>>107904249
Got the thor so I can see how much power I'm using at any given time at a glance I like checking that sort of stuff I really liked the miku bios feature that the board suppose to come with I haven't seen it myself yet because my new pc case hasn't shown up yet
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aspergers on display.
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>>107904169
I'm confused as to why you'd spend so much on ROG and Tranime stuff and then get a 5070Ti.
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>>107904362
he NEEDED his wife Miku
he doesn't need more performance than a 5070 ti gives
seems fairly cut n dry to me
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>>107904362
>wow you spent 800€ on a gpu instead of 3k €
>what are you insane?
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>>107904367
ah he is a tranny faggot. i understand now.
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>>107904362
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>>107904349
Should have gotten the Miku PSU since it's also a Thor with that feature.
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>>107904378
There's nothing AGP about loving a 2d woman.
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Asus is coming with dual mode 1440p/5k monitor

It's somewhat enticing, but I'm worried that 5k at 27" might be too small. I'd like to hear discussion on this, why is high dpi popular, when it shits the bed on windows environment/apps (even those that support scaling things are better when you don't need to rely on it)

I'm hoping asus will make 32" model of this monitor, that one I might buy
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>TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY
>ai slop
>shitpost spam just for the sake for it

being online is like hell these days huh.
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>>107904393
konata is a minor
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>>107904397
she's 18.
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>>107904337
That's not really much of my concern being a shut-in, but I guess that's nice.
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>>107904400
no she isnt
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>>107904393
faggot lights = tranny
glass side panel = trans of some sort
anime = also a tranny or smth
nah. he def is a faggot, tranny or pedo of some sort. goes hand in hand really.
>>107904395
shut up nigger
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>>107904403
ia hallucinations: 1
your diarrhea-addled indian brain: 0
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>>107904414
>ia
esl moment
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>>107904394
from what I remember people claimed high dpi can serve as AA replacement. I personally didn't see it when I tried a 27" 4k. I prefer 1440p with higher fps but that's a matter of taste
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>>107904370
5080 is like $1200.
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>>107904441
maybe if it was 24gb vram but at 16gb buying it is goofy at the prices its being sold at
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>>107904275
Sadly no every time I check for the Miku Fumo I want it's out of stock or from some untrustworthy seller
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>>107904461
Based fumo collector.
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>>107904461
be sure to get nigger cirno too. no collection is complete without her.
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>>107904249
Here's the backside too
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anons....
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>>107904423
nah bro that was clearly reference to the superior imperial agent campaign in swtor
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>>107904528
very few people in this thread buy hard drives. I have 5x 18tb myself but im fairly confident none of them will die during this fiasco... if one happens to croak i may just have to ride it out for a bit anyway before replacing it, it is what it is though.
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>>107904528
>seagate
nothing of value was lost

>hdd
>not sata ssd
waste of time
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>>107904528
The money has to come from somewhere and unless the entirety of india subs to openat at 50$ a month the investments will die down eventually

its just another cryptoboom or another covid
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>>107904540
What do you need that much storage for?
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>>107904549
it's coming from boomers and govt ghouls who are desperate to have ai do the job zoomlennials can't and support them in their eternal leeching off this planet. Subsidies can go on for trillions of dollars now that orange man believes Cleverbot is the next fucking nuclear arm's race. We are fucked. It's over.
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>>107904540
>>107904546
>>107904549
i >>107904528 need to stop reading the news

>>107904565
cat pictures you fool
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Guys, I'm kinda thinking about returning my 5060 ti 16gb and getting a 5070 instead, but it only having 12 gb of ram is kinda weird, but at the same time I've seen it's better at generating sloppa by a lot, should I do it or not? The price difference is 170 usd, I'm still not sure if I can return it tho, will have to check out that first, what I'm scared about is the 6000 series being super expensive due to ram shortages, cuz another alternative would be selling the 5060 TI and upgrading to a 6000 series card, but I'm scared of them being super expensive due to the price ram crisis, once they eventually release
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Why are we letting a pedo obsessed with little girls in Japanese cartoons meant for children bake all the threads?
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>>107904411
>anime = also a tranny or smth
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>>107904598
If you're buying 5070, get the TI with 16gb vram. If you can't do that, keep the 5060 ti
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>>107904598
nicoposting
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>>107904598
Nvm guys, I can't return the 5060 TI anymore
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Is ray tracing still a meme in 2026 or it's actually relevant and you should build with RT in mind? Feels like lots of games still use SSR which is fuck awful and inaccurate as hell for reflections. A good chunk of games use UE5's slop too.
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>>107904615
the one anime i see is from faggots that come from /a/ and /lgbt/ so yeah. go back there.
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Why are we letting a pedo obsessed with a little girl in Japanese cartoon meant for children bake all the threads?
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>>107904614
anime website moron
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>>107904618
Yeah no, the price difference between the 5070 and the 5070 ti is too much where I live, I guess I'll just ride the 5060 TI like you say and sell it eventually
>>107904627
But I'm a nicotroon hater, wdym
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>>107904394
>>107904430
Can you think of any other reasons why this high ppi stuff might be getting pushed on windows? It doesn't work in 99% of usecases (daw, gaming, video editing) so I can't understand why would there be need for high PPI monitors on an environment where it doesn't work.
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>>107904642
the 5060 TI is better for AI than the 5070 because it can fit bigger models, why not you go to the AI based general and ask them
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>>107904627
Also that's missinfo rage bait caused by the australian faggots at hardware unboxing
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>>107904627
nvw those assholes can't be bothered to update their spam, endgadget must be run by actual faggots.

>>107904642
>But I'm
my apologies, it looks like the garbage it spews to spam up the threads
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>>107904653
You're right, the little I know about the sloppa generation is some benchmarks that have been posted here, but I don't know the context behind them
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>>107904658
the 5060 TI spam is literally nicotroon, some days he obssesses over the 5080 poster, other days is about the 5070 ti (4080 super is better) Probably the only card that he does nto autistically concern trolls is the 5070 (probably because he is confident his 9070 XT is better than it)
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>>107904349
>>107904380
Very cool thanks for posting.
What case? Will you put the migu stickers on the case?

Hope everything goes well.
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>>107904674
What-ever. No one is posting /pcbg/ anyway because the only ones that can can afford new stuff are the ones who peddle their /trooning/ >>107904609 for shekels online.
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>>107904674
>9070 XT
Is more performant than a base 5070, correct or not?
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Is smearing on cheaper VAs really that big of an issue? Id like better blacks but don't know how I feel about paying over 100 dollars more for a mini led.
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>>107904575
quick fyi

the chips will wind up sold used

chinese grey (???) market dimms will have used chips.

the REAL threat is lack if ddr6 motherboards, since few will be made.

the double real threat is ddr7 or whatever they'll call it: no consumer support at all, like server gpu sockets
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>>107904708
va ghosting was abso-fucking-lutely horrendous when i last checked maybe it got better idk
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okay

I builted the computer

now how do I stream games from it to my big screen TV
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>>107904694
sour grapes
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>>107904673
Just enjoy your card anon , everyone that does not have a modern one is fucked, the 5070 is good, the 5060 ti 16gb is good, the 5080 is good, the 5090 is good, Games are not gonna get harder too run faster than what DLSS becomes better,
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>>107904708
its not that bad
I own samsung g6 va and it has a bigger problem with scanlines making certain colors look bad
Theres some newer vas using similar patents but its only a handful, usually they also come with minileds

If you buy the worst vas they're terrible, if you buy correct ones they're ok.
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>>107904708
VA smearing is like playing on 20ms monitor, I would imagine. You might as well buy some cheap 60hz monitor, VA ghosting is that bad

On the plus side you can use 4x framegen on games, cause when you're at VA ghosting, some additional input lag doesn't hurt that much
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the p12 is better than the p12 pro
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>>107904703
Depends on the load, for running local models where you can levereage low precision data quants like nvfp4? no

For modern gaming where you are forced to upscale if you want high refresh rate or 4k? Not anymore bncause of how good DLSS 4.5 is

For playing 1080p competitive games? Yes, AMD does have the advantage of lower overhead and you'll be running them on native or no AA
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>>107904742
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>>107904749
you need the p12 pro max
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>>107904715
>>107904736
>>107904740
Thanks guys ur dick is huge.
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>asus announced they're shifting focus to ai
Another one falls
Cherish your last ever pc
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>>107904761
the p12 is more than adequate
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>>107904708
sure, yes, but it's good because it reduces flicker that entrains to whatever the refresh rate is

never listen to in game music.

classical only (pre-19th)
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>>107904740
:^) non-va flicker is so bad it reduces scores
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>>107904772
I always prefer asus/gigabyte for my mobo but i think i'll move to MSI for my zen 6/nova lake upgrade
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>>107904796
Eve Online's soundtrack is transcendent and competes even with classical imo.
Shame I disable sound for performance reasons.
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PC died yesterday. Today I bought a 5070ti, ryzen 7 and the rest of the parts. Feels like gaming is really under siege from every angle. Massive shortage is about to hit and the hardware is going to be extremely expensive it seems. RAM is just the beginning apparently. It's all so tiresome. They clearly want people on cloud gaming. Hopefully by the time my next build dies I'll be no longer into video games. The future looks unbearable in every sense. Even past times will be practically impossible to enjoy.
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>>107904813
MSI might be autistic enough not to abandon gamers. Theyre not a big player anyway and they're more entrenched in that stuff brand-wise. Asus is a big boy not surprised to see it leave.
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>>107904815
I'm not going on "sounds good" here.

allways metamax
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what if they made 5070 ti but with gddr6x instead of gddr7
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>>107904281
I like to hoard
>>107904362
spending a lot more money for very little performance increase felt like it was not worth it
>>107904392
didn't get it because they took a psu painted it then slapped an additonal $200 bucks then they called it the miku edition
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What happens if I need to RMA my card now?
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I love my 5090, fast RAM, and OLED.
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>>107904889
I also make lots of AI goon for myself ;)
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>>107904887
If the company isn't shit, they have a stock held for such cases. The keyword is "if."
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>>107904875
>A lot more money for little performance increase.
>Spends $600 on a MOBO.
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You know when I'm jerking off to my AI goon porn what makes me hardest isn't the porn itself, it is the thought of VRAMlets and RAMlets crying about me online.
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>>107904875
>I like to hoard
Oh yeah I get that, cause same, but would think it'd be better to put that into a NAS or some other computer you don't mind keeping on 24/7. Maybe you just keep yours on 24/7 anyway. I usually try to put my gaming pc to sleep when not in use and then shut it down like once a week.
I wanted to get another NAS drive myself but fuck those prices.
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We could just cull the AI dorks and abusive capitalists. That way we can still have the luxury of own pc parts in 10 years time.
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>>107904941
Gonna be the other way around sweaty
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When China invades Taiwan and cancels all of altman's orders what is he going to do then. Back to being wedgied and tripped over by real men? Xi get your fucking shit together.
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>>107904907
Having Miku greet me when booting up and on the bios is worth it
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>>107904955
fuck off to /pol/ with your spammy bullshit
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>>107904955
Trump will bail them out. They say such nice things about him. :)
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>>107904959
>Miku calling you a broke boy for only having a 5070Ti and not the Miku Edition 5090.
Lmao. Sorry bro, she's with somebody else.
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>>107904955
>leftie wants big xi cock to save him
you lost
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>>107904960
>>107904961
>>107904991
Xi going to liberate the ram back into public ownership like the true communist stud he is. No chips for chuds though! You'll be limited to ps2's and game cubes.
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>>107904889
W or QD?
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>>107904887
These video card manufacturers are going to find any reason to void the warranty, even minor dents.
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>>107905016
Woman
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Waitfags how we feeling?
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>>107905017
>going to find any reason to void the warranty
This is not a phenomena that is restricted to GPU manufacturers though. Best of luck, anons.
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>>107905016
W. QD has fringing.
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>>107904875
>didn't get it because they took a psu painted it then slapped an additonal $200 bucks then they called it the miku edition
Couldn't you say that about the whole Miku line they did? I think that Miku one is 1200w too at least.
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>>107905030
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>>107905046
:(
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>>107904820
You just need dosbox emulator to run Tyrian2000
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>>107905045
Mobo has a custom miku boot up and a custom miku bios also had miku art and miku light up decals on the motherboard the PSU is literally a the regular one but painted teal psu feels very low effort in it
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>>107905030
I learned my lesson with the 4090. Never again. 90 series cards only go up in value. Buy when available and consider it an investment.
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this Miku motherboard sounding kinda nice
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>>107905064
It's a PSU. What options would you want?
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I really should have bought a 5090.
I haven't even used more than 20% of my 5070ti at any point in time but the 5090 is basically free at very worst if you have the money to put into it, which I do
Then again when I bought during black Friday the price was probably already high
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Does the brand of ram matter?
I found a reasonable 32GB stick viper venom or whatever
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>>107905082
Miku on the PSU
Miku on the cables
Little Miku animation drawn on the fan so it looks like she's running when the fan is spinning or something like that
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>>107905091
Woot had Gigabyte Gaming OC 5090s for $2600 during Christmas time. I almost bought a back up.
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>>107905082
Something to warrant paying an extra 200 for the the same PSU but in teal image if Noctua instead of charging 10 extra dollars for their black but 100 Miku PSU didn't feel very Miku
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>>107905017
>meanwhile, be me in 2000s , with 8800 ultra
>do little bit of overclocking , forgot name of program but some hair mesh looking thing
>go test on TF2 ... get weird christmas colors and the GPU is dead
>contact store I bought it from, say "it's dead"
>no more stock of 8800 ultra available, I'm sorry anon
>the store send me 280 gtx instead
I may have got lucky, but I felt epic when I got a better gpu for free.
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>>107904169
what does the motherboard look like?
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>full miku pc costs 5500 europoors
Fuck
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why cant eu make gpu
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Just upgraded my GPU. Is this normal? I have a PCIE 4.0 motherboard, so it should be 32 GT/s instead of 16, right?
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>>107905182
No
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>>107905181
>the world's main company that makes the machines that make chips is European
>European fabbing is lightyears behind anyone else
something something overregulation something something stagnant innovation something something
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>>107905035
I don't notice fringing on both honestly
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Not having your own chip factories is a risk to national security.
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>>107905212
Thanks. I must have misread something.
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>>107905181
eu's entire tech sector is a joke.
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>>107905182
>>107905212
>it's over before it even began
womp womp, time to return the motherboard
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>>107905246
There is basically no appreciable performance difference between PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 for GPUs.
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What is stopping you buying a fuck load of GPU's right now to flip in 9 months for almost double?
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>>107905246
>>107905253
You need at least a 5090 to start noticing performance reductions on PCIE GEN 3. there is none on gen 4 or 5.
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>>107905230
Either is fine. It's just more likely on QD.
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>>107905181
There wasn't this much demand for advanced semiconductors back when Europe and America had more semiconductor fabs.
It's also too costly to R&D advanced chip production. A bad chip development decision almost took out Intel.
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>>107905261
There are none for sale. Three months ago was the time to do such.
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>>107905280
I literally just bought one for myself. There are loads. Sounds like you're poor lol.
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>>107905289
Na. I have a water blocked 5090. The 5090 is what you want for max resale value, and none are available.
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>>107905181
Because other countries made them, that's what global trade is for.
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>>107905277
the true reason is control. TPTB have more control in asia
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Investors need to start pulling out of AI so these fucking retarded companies start rolling back their insanity
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>>107904887
If they can't replace it with something equivalent they'll have to give you something better, like a 5090
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>>107905343
American and European companies just didn't want to put the effort into scaling up fabs and risk capital in advanced semiconductor investment because it was a less profitable venture at that time.
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>>107905345
>Investors need to start pulling out of AI so these fucking retarded companies start rolling back their insanity

They will, once they realise AI companies are basically ponzi schemes and we are at least a decade away of them being good for anything other than chatbots and generating fake porn. OpenAI needs to do something like a trillion dollar of revenue just so it can pay the interest on its debt.

unfortunately it won't work because they'll get government bailouts which will result in massive inflation. If they'd leave them go bankrupt, it would make the 2008 krach look like a weekend trip to the woods.
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I found some old ddr3 2x8gb ram in my garage, you think this is worth trying to sell or do I just categorize it as e-waste and dump it?
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what happened to galax? i remember i could buy their rtx 4000 series on amazon and newegg, but i couldn't find any of their 5000 series on either site, what gives?
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For the purposes of creating a VHSDecode rig (which requires two hacked PCIe capture cards to capture raw signal to convert VHS tapes to digital videos) I want to create a new machine, but it has to be as small and compact as possible, and preferably with a fast CPU. I'm considering buying a miniITX motherboard with PCIe bifurcation support. What's the smallest I can get it to? Is there a smaller option out there e.g. some random miniPC that somehow has 2 PCIe slots?
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>>107905438
sell it, someone really needs it
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>>107905400
The war starts when the bubble pops. This is your last PC. I live in [redacted] so hopefully I'm not forced to abandon it when Xi starts shooting missiles and drones.
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>>107905309
>>107905277
>>107905244
>>107905219
Sounds to me like communism is better then since in capitalism you are forced to let the big whale handle it all and can't compete.
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>>107905443
they're mostly china only like gainward or inno3d.
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>>107905504
>let the big whale handle
It's more about long-term planning; there was simply no demand for a European DRAM or advanced semiconductor fab to exist 10~20 years ago.
It had to be a state/EU-sponsored venture.
You also can't just leave completed fabs running at low utilization; that's how you end up bleeding cash like Intel.
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>>107905400
Well I hope it's sooner than later
Also the market is more diversified than you think, if AI goes down it will not take everything like the 2008 crash
It will basically only hurt Nvidia, MS, Oracle, Amazon, ChatGPT and maybe AMD and Intel.

Also I think I read in fall that some banks are really bearish now, I think they don't want to give out any more loans . Hopefully more banks step in and cause a soft ripple before the ultimate pop.

>>107905486
China will start a war once they get RAM production underway, so they can product their own domestic CPU, GPU and RAM. However they don't have HDD production if I recall unless they invade Vietnam.


If China ever goes to war, it will be the end of them. No one will want to trade with them nor will trust them again, and right now their demographics are 3:1 males to females and an aging population (Gen X most of the population)
They're committing suicide if they go to war

We can just hope Xi keels over
That is my blog post -- so I don't get further off topic
I just want this insanity to end

While I can afford current prices I do not the rest of you to suffer and I don't want the "crab in a bucket" mentality to fuck us in the USA - it will make society insufferable
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>>107905551
China keeps factories running no matter what, they don't rely sorely on demand they know keeping shit running is important for a rainy day
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Upgrading from a 3070. Is a 5060ti 16gb okay or should I spring for the 5070ti?
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>>107905716
anon this is very likely the last gpu you are ever gonna buy, think wisely
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>>107905716
5070ti if you can afford it.
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>>107905716
buy 5070 ti
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>>107905716
My brother just went from a 3070Ti to a 5070 and he seems pretty happy.
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>>107905716
5070ti is better so if you can afford 5070ti 16gb get that one instead, it'll be better for 4k. Trust me 1440p is meme resolution, you wanna start playing in 4k ASAP. Get yourself a 32" 4k monitor with 120hz or more
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>>107905716
get both the 5060 ti and 5070ti, sell the latter in about a year for 2k, and put that towards a 5090 or 6090 :p
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>>107905716
5060Ti is a sidegrade for a 3070.
Yes it's better, and yes it has multi-framegen DLSS, but it's not better enough to make it FEEL like a true upgrade.
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>>107905737
Maybe he should buy 20 5090s and sell them next year and buy a house.
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>>107905716
Unless you know you are gonna use vram or can find a 5070 TI near msrp get i would look at a 5070 if its only for gaming, its a solid upgrade from your 3070 and will max anything on 1440p with dlss 4.5

>>107905775
I think anon should definetly get a 5070 TI but that chart its a little bit decieving after DLSS 4.5, which runs worse on the 30 and 20 series and make the card closer toa 3080
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>>107905775
its pretty insane people recced 5060 ti over 5070 solely due to vram and they dont factor in much worse performance at all somehow
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I am not Crazy!

I have seen the charts and have watched countless youtube videos, I know native resolution looks massively better than upscaled and frame generated pixels. I want my native 4K 120 fps performance on the highest settings with ray tracing enabled.
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We need to have our own governments and companies that are separate from states and globohomo. Infiltrate these big companies, learn the processes to create the products and set up production lines solely for consumers. If they want to run away with these little pipe dreams of cloud computing and AI nonsense then they can. But we won't be captives to their greed schemes. They want zero alternatives. But create manafacutuors who are run like a highly paranoid Soviet government who can't be infiltrated easily and destroyed from the inside (globohomo trademark).

Create an entirely separate society. Things like Linux is exactly what I mean. Things won't be perfect but at least it's not slavery in the you'll own nothing and subscription slavery dystopia.
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>>107905808
it's because none of the performance matters if you don't have enough vram. playing games at 1440p and 4k is recommended, 1080p is the ghetto option for stuff like steam machine and steam deck (2). If you're gonna build desktop PC, it's to play 4k where you can brute force away developer lazyness/get whatever temporal benefits the shitty lazy ass optimize UE4/5 games can offer. There are games from late 2000s that look way sharper than modern games do in 1080p, and playing games in 4k is only way to combat that. You're not gonna play game 4k if you only have 12gb of vram, whatever benefits 5070 had over 5060 ti will be instantly lost. You just don't buy GPU with less than 16gb of VRAM, it's really not that hard if you have any braincells
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>>107905808
Some people need the vram for a productivty task you cant just lower the settings or increase DLSS from quality to performance and make your productivity task work.

Both cards are are overkill for 1440p anyway, 5060 ti does 60 fps at max or near max settings and the 5070 is a higher refresh expereince
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>>107905838
>he's still coping

Retard, a 5070 is ALMOST always going to be better than a 5060Ti 16GB in gaming at 1080p and 1440p

There MIGHT be a few edge cases where that isn't true, but they're by FAR the exceptions, not the rule.

And if anything the RAMpocolyps is going to force developers to keep 8GB VRAM as the target for 1080p/1440p for at LEAST another 3 years, if not 5.
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>>107905843
60 fps should not be the target.
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>>107905856
>gaming at 1080p and 1440p
doesn't happen, ghetto ass resolutions. 4k or bust, kys pajeet, no reclaim
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>>107905860
yeah, for me a comfy experience starts at around 70 fps and 120 is great for 4k

when you zoom camera around in first person the level of blurriness at <70 is terrible
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>got the 5070ti prime in my hands
>don't have the other parts to build the pc
>don't feel like sticking it in my old one
Suffering.
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>>107905873
>don't feel like sticking it in my old one
what could this mean?
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>>107905867
Do I need to pull out the steam charts again you dumb faggot?

Hell we can do a strawpoll here if you really wanna see what the community here is using.


Face it, 1440p (at 16:9/21:9/32:9) is by far the most common resolution for gaming in 2026. Yes 4k exists, but it isn't standard yet, and likely wont be for a while at this rate.
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>>107905838
if you're buying a 5060ti to play 4k you're a fool
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>>107905860
ok so i'll take the bait, and i think its just the usuall troll slopping about the 5060 ti. On unreal slop games you aren't getting really a high refresh experience

This is the 5090, upscaling at ultra performance from2 240p to 720p and it doesnt go over 110 fps standing still https://youtu.be/gVQC0KyzucI?si=MTNMUsiCwM10-kRq&t=1382


Which is why frame generation is actually good, the difference from these card is 30% both cards will play unreal engine slop with frame gen on base frames from the 5060 ti is around 60, 5070 is 78, that translate itself to around 10 extra ms latency in avg with reflex, so yes if you really dont want to use a more agressive upscalling to match the 5070, you are talking that the game experience in terms of difference will be playing at 50 pcl latency while the 5070 plays at 40 avg pcl latency
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>>107903764
>Budget: SN7100, NM790
>High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
>Premium: SN8100
Recommended affordable SSD now that you can no longer buy these for reasonable prices?
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>>107905890
5060 TI claire obscure high settings 60 fps with DLSS UP at 4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x7goOdiaSU

5070 DLSS 4.5 UP 4K 60 FPS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XWM6WPTPBc

Seriously its just the usual retards trying to shitpost, with how good DLSS 4.5 is both cards are really good and do the same, but if you only play games and now you'll not be needing those 16gb of vram you should get the 5070 because it is faster
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Now the 5070 TI though? Thats a whole another tier of performance and can actually do true high refresh 1440p and 4k, if you can get you should get one, but if you get a 5070 and 5060 ti you should be happy that you'll be doing 1440p for the time to come now that DLSS 4.5 is so good at performance mode
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Cross shopping 9070s and used 7900 XTs. Is there anything other than raytracing and FSR nonsense that the former does better to justify the VRAM sacrifice?
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5070 is a vanilla xx60-tier card with a xx70/ti price.
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>>107905963
what
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>>107905917
>DLSS
>Ultra Performace AKA 720p
Kill yourself.
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>>107905974
>>107905963
See i knew it was nicotroon
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>>107905963
5070 is 3090 performance but with half the VRAM, for $550.
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>>107905983
is actually way faster than now DLSS 4.5 runs on fp8, especially now that DLSS ultra performance and performance are good
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>>107905974
As good if not better than FSR4 quality said by AMD shillgods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JNmb54hR3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXAYR-ZtbH4
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>>107905997
>FSR
Both are shit, shouldn't have to spell it out but it seems I'm talking to subhumans.
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>>107906012
FS4 quality is comparable to DLSS 4.0 quality, are you the autistic retard with the 4070 that upgraded to a 9070 xt and now pretends that DLSS is blurry shit?



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