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The rust borrow checker is the most disgusting, worthless, piece of shit idea ever. Its not about "safety", its not about "security", thats all horseshit propaganda and anyone who buys into it is retarded. The actual capabilities of the language and compiler are not relevant to this discussion, its about FREEDOM.
I did not start programming to follow stupid worthless arbitrary "rules", I did not start programming to be told what to do, I did not start programming hoping to have LESS control over my hardware. This isnt a programming issue, its a political issue, if you like rust, that means you hate freedom and want to take mine away, its that simple, and hating you and wanting you dead for that is literally self defense. Kill all rustroons, worthless, dogshit non workers specialized in a worthless dogshit non language.
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>>107908724
>rust
FOUND THE PROBLEM!
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>>107908750
The problem is anti freedom ideology. The symptom of the problem is rust.
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Anything higher than ASM is a compromise in freedom and control. Where do (You) draw the line?
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t. filtered by the borrow checker
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>>107908820
>The problem is tranny* ideology
Fixed.
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>>107908920
You are a nigger and dont deserve to exist.
>>107908907
When i feel like i cant do anything i fucking want is when i draw the line. Computer science is about doing whatever the fuck you want. The borrow checker is nigger shit
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>>107908920
The borrow checker "filters" people the same way communist dictatorships "filter" people into the gulag
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>>107908724
This but for types in general and for not being able to goto a line in a different function
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There's a 1000 languages out there and I'm not one to tell people they can't create languages and try new things.
My problem with Rust not such much the language itself (although that's bad because I don't like functional programming in general), it's the constant campaigning to replace every piece of existing line of code out there with Rust, regardless of how well the original solution works. It's turned into a hateful, spiteful mission driven more by the contempt for legacy software just because it's been around for a while. Rust is a political statement now. When you announce your project is in Rust or you're a Rust programmer, you're saying "I'm new or progressive and smart and you're old and obsolete". It's the most forced language I've ever seen in my life.
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>>107909476
Have you considered that some people don't want CVEs and RCEs from memory bugs and that's why they might want rewrites in memory safe languages?
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>>107908724
A belated shalom shabbat to you all. And greetings to the /g/eet tard community.

I'm happy to report that members of the rust community listened to the requests /g/eets made to have the freedom to be retarded without being shamed. And because tard-shaming is bad and maybe a sign of white privilege, it was decided to make a rust offering without the borrow checker:

https://github.com/buyukakyuz/rustmm

See the trivial linked list example here:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/buyukakyuz/rustmm/refs/heads/main/examples/07_doubly_linked.rs

Hopefully other language features like sum types and type classes will not harm tard inclusivity. And remember, your /g/eet tardation is nothing to be ashamed of.

Adios
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i tried rust once and got filtered, threads in rust is just overly complicated
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>>107908724
We need ACTS.
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>>107909855
>hmmmm tastt boot! Licking the boot makes me SMARTER!!! thats right! Those people who dont lick boots are STUPID! im the SMART ONE! *licklicklicklicklick*
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>>107909675
Those things dont fucking exist. You made them up. 100% of rust arguments are just the rustroon pulling horseshit "what if" scenarios, they are so desperate to create an imaginary problem to sell a solution. Im not going to play pretend with you.
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not really a fan of rust, but somehow the anti rust fags manage to be far worse. it almost seems like a false flag
like are you telling me that >>107908937
>When i feel like i cant do anything i fucking want is when i draw the line. Computer science is about doing whatever the fuck you want. The borrow checker is nigger shit
is real and legitimate? i swear to god it's seriously on the level of a strawman
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>>107910123
>this guy doesnt like licking boots? Wow thats so weird. *licklicklickkick* Not wanting to spend your life licking boots is pretty extreme, it might be a false flag, he seems like a strawman. *licklicklickkick* mmmm boot so tasty
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>>107910150
just don't fucking use it if you hate it so much? why are you sperging out so hard? i legitimately hope you're trolling, for your own sake
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>>107910123
Now that im done making fun of you with a greentext I have one question for you. What the fuck is the point of programming if not doing whatever the fuck you want?
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>>107910198
generally for most people it is to accomplish a business goal. so for example, one might host a webpage to allow potential customers to view products on offer. then there would be a backend for processing transactions, keeping track of orders and stock, receipts, etc. along the way, cryptographic systems would be utilized in order to ensure the safety and privacy of transferred data
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>>107910190
Because these disgusting worthless rustniggers are constantly trying to push for perfectly fine, usable, great software to be erased and "rewritten" in rust so it can be shittier and destroy everyones freedom. If one single programmer on the planet is even slightly tolerant of the borrow checker than I need to complain more. I dont want to live in a world where a "borrow checker" (orwellian freedom destroying monster) is accepted by anyone.
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op is a faggot retard while rust is for tranny faggots. the mismatch is obvious.
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>>107910213
You can do all of that just fine without a borrow checker destroying freedom while you do it. There is no real life practical use case for rust. It only excells in imaginary "what if" troon scenarios.
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if you want to leak memory just put it in unsafe, idiot
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>>107910224
i am convinced at this point that you're trolling, so i won't bother to reply after this post
>rustniggers are constantly trying to push for perfectly fine, usable, great software to be erased and "rewritten" in rust
no one is holding a gun to anyone's head. if they can manage to convince people to put in the work to rewrite a library in rust, that's their own freedom. you are welcome to make counterarguments as to why you think rust is a bad idea, but i have a sneaking suspicion your argument will not come across as particularly persuasive
>so it can be shittier and destroy everyones freedom.
not really sure how it affects your freedom at all? if you're using a library, you aren't going to have access to the internals anyway. you only ever are "supposed" to access it via the exported APIs. if the end result of a program rewritten in rust has the exact same black-box functionality, i really fail to see how it's impacting your freedom at all? not to mention, you're using other people's labor for free. why are you being so whiny and demanding? if you have such a strong issue with it, maintain the original C library yourself. basically, put up or shut up.
>>107910253
no, you don't get it. the idea that other people want to take advantage of a static analyzer (which just happens to be built into the syntax of the language instead of an external program) is somehow destroying his freedom
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>>107908724
Nice blog. How do I unsubscribe
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>>107909675
What about logical bugs? We can say also that a memory bug is a form of logical error, it's a programmer fault.
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>>107910280
Any code written in rust will run like dogshit and destroy my freedom. Thats what rust does. Its an anti freedom software. You have done nothing but lick boots and make up imaginary bullshit in this thread. Kill yourself
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>>107910310
What about them? Are they more common in rust compared to anywhere else? If not why do we care about them when choosing a language?
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You made dozens of claims and not a single argument to support any of them.
No one cares about midwit opinions.
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>>107910310
The thing with memory bugs is that they're particularly exploitable, sometimes extremely hard to debug (a segfault is fine but good luck with data corruption that happens once every hundred hours and causes a crash in another part of the program), and feasible to categorically prevent.
We don't have as good a technical solution for logic bugs in general.
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>>107908724
Anything other than coding in machine code is an impious worthless piece of crapware.
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>>107910338
>Any code written in rust will run like dogshit and destroy my freedom.
Let's put this to a test.
Implement any reasonably sized(will entirely fit in a 4chan post) algorithm in any language of your choice and I will rewrite it in Rust and we will do a benchmark. You can choose any compiler version and flags you wish.

Pro tip: you won't because you can't program
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>>107910123
>it almost seems like a false flag
No Rust developer would be this incompetent.
You overestimate cniles. This is the same group of people who have been filtered by C++ and resorted to "C with classes" for decades now. They are incapable of higher order thinking.
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>>107909476
>the constant campaigning to replace every piece of existing line of code out there with Rust, regardless of how well the original solution works.
Can you name any projects which were "campaigned" to be replaced by a solution made in Rust that has never been "campaigned" to be replaced by a solution in other languages?
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>>107910340
You fucking niggers love to change the subject. Ill make it simple. The instant the borrow checker was brought into existence rust was forever doomed to be a worthless dogshit language. There is nothing you can say, there is nothing you can do, there is no way to spin this to make me and people like me accept rust because the borrow checker is so disgusting and terrible it makes every single byte of the rust compiler worthless. I didnt start programming to be told what to do and bossed around, the borrow checker tells me what to do and bosses me around, therefore, there is no practical usecase for rust. Simple as.

If(borrowchecker = 0)
{
Useful = 1
}
Else
{
Useful = 0
}
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>>107910095
>Those things dont fucking exist.
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>>107908724
>I did not start programming to follow stupid worthless arbitrary "rules"
So just don't use rust, then? Lol.
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>>107910459
Cool opinion. But who asked?
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>>107910392
>The thing with memory bugs is that they're particularly exploitable
True, but memory management is just resource management. We solve that years ago.

>>107910340
>Are they more common in rust compared to anywhere else?
Maybe. The problem is that Rust makes it hard to reason about programs.
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>>107910462
I can make a fake chart in photoshop too.
>>107910422
Im not going to do that simply because i dont respect you and you dont deserve that effort.
>>107910456
I assume that was the origin story for literally every line of rust code ever written.
>>107910470
So just end the retarded "rewrite it in rust" cancer. Lol.
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>>107910493
>Maybe. The problem is that Rust makes it hard to reason about programs.
How?
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>>107910422
he won't do that lol
wow how did i guess >>107910506
>>107910442
idk, i use C as my primary language. i prefer C++ for a lot of things, but i have to use C for work. i don't think this is a C developer issue. i think OP is just a faggot
(ps: C with compiler extensions like attribute cleanup is often as good as C++ ime)
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>>107910392
>muh imaginary memory bugs are totally real and not in my imagination and they are le heckin EXPLOITABLE!
KILL. YOUR. SELF. YOU. FUCKING. COMMUNIST. I DIDNY START PROGRAMMING SO A FUCKING BORROW CHECKER COULD TELL ME WHAT TO DO, YOU FUCKING NIGGER.
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>>107908724
is there any software in existence that is 100% written in rust from scratch or rust is only about re-writing already developed softwares?
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>>107910546
Rust is about destroying freedom. Its just about training your brain to be less creative and more accepting of athoritarianism and censorship.
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>>107910529
Disgusting syntax, borrow checker, lifetime annotations, using pattern matching for error handling, and the unwrap fiasco.
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>>107910506
>I can make a fake chart in photoshop too.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/msrc/blog/2019/07/we-need-a-safer-systems-programming-language
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>>107910506
>Im not going to do that simply because i dont respect you and you dont deserve that effort.
You are not going to do this because you can't.
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>>107910546
Most of Rust software is written entirely in Rust.
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>>107910772
I can write fake articles too.
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>>107910738
You sound like a female. All you talk about is how you feel and aesthetics. Not a single critical argument so far.
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>>107910783
I can. But i wont, you cant make me, because my objective in programming isnt to follow orders from niggers like you. Go suck another tranny dick, rustnigger
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>>107908724
>Russian hackers when their hacking is thwarted by Rust code
Rust gives you more freedom than C and C++.
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>>107910808
I think anti Rust might be a psyop by hackers so they don't lose all their juicy CVEs.
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>107910808
So we have reached the point of just obvious troll posts
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>>107910816
>thinking freedom is good is a psyop so the boogeyman doesnt lose his magical boogey powers that are totally very real and not made up
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>>107908724
>write anything
>does what I need
>no race conditions thanks to borrow checker
>10Mi Peak (according to systemd status)
let me know what other language does this. protip, you can't.
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>>107910456
Coreutils
Fish shell
Electron (which is shit anyway and Rust doesn't make it better)
The list of individual projects would be too long so I'll just switch to whole categories of projects
Various operating systems (Redox)
Various Linux drivers
Python package managers
Node package managers
Web browsers
Terminal emulators
Editors
JavaScript engines
Emulators
Window Managers
Actually, even that list is getting tedious, pretty much every piece of the modern tech stack from chips to mobile apps has a Rust alternative project and Rust developers keep telling us how evil we are for not immediately abandoning our projects and switching to the Rust alternative.
I've talked to multiple developers who feel the same way. I'm not just delusional and making this up out of thin air.
The shilling is out of control.
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>>107910838
Troll post. Heres the reality of rust:
>Cant write anything, at all, nothing will ever compile or run, ever.
>does absolutely nothing, just borrow checks and bitches and whines all day
>no freedom
>0Mi peak (because it doesnt do anything useful ever.
There i fixed your shitty propaganda post.
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>>107910786
ok, what's the name of that software that is entirely invented in rust from scratch?
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>>107910884
so you don't have an answer?
my Rust IRC bot uses 2MiB RSS right now. The python version hovered around 20-50Mi, golang was consistently about +10Mi.

Much like the haskell meme, when my Rust code compiles, I have confidence that it generally just works + know how it can fail since I have Result<T, E> where E is a sum type.

not sure why you shitters are so delusional. Rust is literally perfect. I've never seen anything like it.
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>>107908724

>We adopted Rust for its security and are seeing a 1000x reduction in memory safety vulnerability density compared to Android's C and C++ code. But the biggest surprise was Rust's impact on software delivery," Google's Jeff Vander Stoep said. "With Rust changes having a 4x lower rollback rate and spending 25% less time in code review, the safer path is now also the faster one

>With roughly 5 million lines of Rust in the Android platform and one potential memory safety vulnerability found (and fixed pre-release), our estimated vulnerability density for Rust is 0.2 vuln per 1 million lines (MLOC).

>Our historical data for C and C++ shows a density of closer to 1,000 memory safety vulnerabilities per MLOC. Our Rust code is currently tracking at a density orders of magnitude lower: a more than 1000x reduction.

https://security.googleblog.com/2025/11/rust-in-android-move-fast-fix-things.html

https://thehackernews.com/2025/11/rust-adoption-drives-android-memory.html
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>>107910870
The only logical solution to this is to treat rust like the plauge. The concept of "lets introduce some rust code to this program" should garner the same reaction as your girlfriend saying "lets introduce some HIV to our sex life."
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>>107910907
>>107910914
>HMMM THIS BOOT IS SO TASTY! WHY DONT YOU LOVE LICKING BOOT TOO? LICKING BOOTS IS PERFECT! NOT LICKING BOOTS IS HECKING UNSAFE AND EXPLOITABLE!! IF YOU DONT LOVE LICKING BOOTS YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
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>>107910936
>HMMM THIS BOOT IS SO TASTY!
lol what the fuck are you on about retard? no one is forcing me to use Rust. It's just that good.
again, name a better language that gives me performance, low memory usage and a nonshit typesystem that incidentally also prevents common concurrency & parallelism bugs.

You literally can't.
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>>107910907
remember a cloudflare malfunction?
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>>107910914
If you believe a single word of that propaganda then you should just kill yourself, you arent using your brain right now. None of that horseshit in those articles is true. Its just made up imaginary bullshit to make you comply and stop thinking.
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>>107910966
yes? what about it?
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>>107910793
>>107910095
>>107910979
>>107910506
>IT'S FAAAAAAAKE
Ok, you can keep screaming that in your little corner while the professionals are going to increasingly adopt Rust.
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>>107910960
>BOOT SO TASTY I LOVE LICKING BOOT!! LICKING BOOT IS FUN! I WANT TO LICK THE BOOT!! NO ONE IS FORCING ME!
C and C++ are what you should be using
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>>107911019
C and C++ don't prevent common concurrency bugs.
anon, are you even trying?
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>>107910964
Kill yourself. Not true. I refuse to live in that world. Ill hunt down and kill the rust developers before i install rust as a dependency
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>>107911024
Thats not a real thing. Thats a made up fake thing rustroons came up with to gaslight retards like you into using their shitpoop language. Nigger.
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>>107911045
>that's not a real thing
what is Send and Sync?
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>>107910995
Wrong. Rust will die. Theres no possible way it will be adopted at all because its useless dogshit that does nothing. Anything reason you think you have to use rust is fake fabricated horseshit.
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>>107911053
There is no such thing as a "memory unsafety", there is no such thing as a "common concurrency bug" thats not real. That was made up by rusttroons to gaslight you. Simple as.
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>>107911070
It isn't made up, you're just ignorant. Again

What language has:
1. Low memory usage.
2. High performance.
3. Type checked concurrency.

If you can't name any, this conversation is over. You lost.
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>>107911088
Rust doesnt have any of those things at all. Stop trying to change the subject. It has a borrow checker, so therefore it doesnt work and its worthless and its impossible to program anything in rust. C and C++ do everything you want though.
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>>107910802
>You sound like a female
Is that supposed to be an insult?
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>>107911119
Yes, because it means you're high in estrogen and thus dumb.
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>>107910916
Rust does have mind virus like qualities.
But the Rust community realized that convincing people to switch to Rust isn't enough. Now the strategy is also to get Rust installed into critical infrastructure and into tech stacks that everyone depends on because it's extremely difficult to replace software at that point. They don't even want you to have a choice.
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>>107909855
Sir amiga, por favor, por favor - mak "fn" be "function" me lik it to be ful nam, it wil be gut.
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>>107911059
No I don't think Rust will die. I think it's already irreplaceable or at least quickly approaching that point. Like ancient virus DNA still knocking around in the human genome we're stuck with it for better or worse.
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>>107910807
You won't because you can't.
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>>107911151
This is the reason that if i ever decide i need this so called, fabled, mythical, arcane "memory safety", im gonna use stubbornly use haskell for 2 reasons. First because rust troons hate it for some reason and try to discourage it, so its probabky good, second, simon peyton jones is a white man and isnt a tranny. They way they are trying to force rust on the world is absurd.
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>>107910253
Safe Rust leaks memory. It's not part of Rusts premise to prevent memory leaks.
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>>107910916
>The concept of "lets introduce some rust code to this program" should garner the same reaction as your girlfriend saying "lets introduce some HIV to our sex life."
That's actually C, especially after the Morris worm. Rust is like a cure for HIV, that C programmers don't want because they like being able to infect other people.
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>>107910870
>Coreutils
>What is BDSutils, busybox, toybox, microcoreutils
I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your list since you can't even give a good first example. You don't know what you are talking about and/or generated that list using LLM anyway.
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>>107911177
If it was actually "irreplacable" or even useful at all, you wouldnt need to force others to use it. People would just use it without needing to be gaslit by horseshit like "memory safety".
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>>107910884
>Cant write anything
git gud
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>>107910904
Redox OS
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>>107911203
Damn that tranny "girlfriend" of yours got a 40 minute blowjob from you just now? Lucky guy.
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>>107911211
>im gonna use stubbornly use haskell for 2 reasons. First because rust troons hate it for some reason and try to discourage it, so its probabky good, second, simon peyton jones is a white man and isnt a tranny.
Most Rust programmers like Haskell.
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>>107911250
>>>/lgbt/
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>>107911211
I like both Haskell and Rust.
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>>107911151
>Now the strategy is also to get Rust installed into critical infrastructure and into tech stacks that everyone depends on because it's extremely difficult to replace software at that point. They don't even want you to have a choice.
That was C's strategy. Rust comes from the programmers themselves. Anyone who actually used C and C++ would prefer Rust.
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>>107911260
You are a rust shill. That means you like to follow directions. I gave you a direction to "go suck another tranny dick". You took 40 minutes to reply, therefore its reasonable to assume that you followed my directions, being the good rusttroon you are and gave your tranny "girlfriend" a 40 minute blowjob before replying to me. This is all logical.
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>>107911243
nah i don't think so...
https://github.com/redox-os/redox
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>>107911286
Not an argument.
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>>107911254
>>107911266
I know you are both just trolling because ive seen countless posts from rustshills, shilling their rust garbage while also calling haskell "useless" just as often as they call c++ "dangerous". Its one of their buzzterms.
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>>107911211
Haskell is basically where all the great features came from. It's literally Rust-coded you dumb nigger, lmao. you probably can't even use it.
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>>107911313
There is not a single byte of rust in GHC as far as i know. Again, all rustroons know how to do is make shit up.
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>>107911296
Just click the "C".
It's example programs. The system and kernel is fully written in Rust.
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>>107911305
Ok but it is true. You sucked a tranny dick for 40 minutes today and i was able to logically prove that by observing your posts
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>>107911326
what do you think a typeclass and a trait is retard?
how about derive?
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>>107908724
A computer is just a set of rules you stupid retard
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>>107911337
>>>/lgbt/
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>>107911339
Im pretty sure rust stole those ideas from haskell. ghc is written in a combination of c and haskell itself.
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>>107911310
>shilling their rust garbage while also calling haskell "useless"
Nobody ever said that. Traits, the error handling, monads, and pattern matching come from Haskell. Rust programmers have a lot of respect for Haskell.
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>>107911347
>goes onto /lgbt/
>newest thread has a catbox link in the OP
>its a 40 minute video
>theres a pastel blue and pink flag on the wall in the backround
...every fucking thread with you rustroons
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>>107911371
>idk what *-coded is
It has nothing to do with actually written in rust, unc.
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>>107911396
You do understand why that phrasing on this board is confusing right? Also rust was made after haskell, so it would be more accurate to say rust is haskell coded.
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>>107911310
so when are you trooning out and accepting Rust? The fact you're so desperate to bargin with yourself that you'll "choose Haskell" instead of Rust is honestly hilarious to me.
You're probably a nocoder retard anyway, so no one cares what you think or choose, but you still shit up /g/ anyway.

fyi, Rust chads on /g/ are not trannies, but you talk and type like one that's in the closet.
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>>107911330
the system is not fully written in rust if there are other languages involved.
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>>107911424
>the system is not fully written in rust
prove it retard. anon already showed you the C code are just examples.
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>>107911420
>I-I-IM NOT A TRANNY! UH... Y- YOU ARE! YOURE THE TRANNY NOT ME!
Ok bro.
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>>107911447
I'm not the one bargaining and crashing out like a deranged hysterical woman anon.
Just order your HRT already you fucking sick tranny fuck. Maybe you'll stop shitting up /g/ then.
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>>107911446
see >>107911296
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>>107911461
ya, it's written in rust retard.
>b-but all these build tools!
holy shit are you fucking stupid?
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>>107911466
see >>107911296
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>>107911455
Ok sure thing lilith, keep totally owning the nazis with that rust code. Your parents will use your birth name on your gravestone when you die btw.
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>>107911475
see >>107911330
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>>107911461
hey retard
https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os/kernel
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>>107911474
>muh libc
https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os/relibc
kwab
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>>107911480
>>107911498
see >>107911296
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>>107908724
>I did not start programming to follow stupid worthless arbitrary "rules"
Please explain this to every recruiter you meet for the rest of your life. Doing so will save countless work teams from your stupidity.
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>>107911395
>>goes onto /lgbt/
Now stay there. I'm sure you will find way more people to ERP there than here
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>>107911424
>the system is not fully written in rust if there are other languages involved.
Redox OS is fully written in Rust.

>>107911461
>>107911475
>>107911509
Why are you ignoring >>107911330 ?
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>>107911517
Anon... youre the one who posted a 40 minute tranny blowjob video on that board. You belong there obviusly.
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>>107911509
>kernel is all rust and assembly
>doesn't know how to use shithub
You uncs are so fucking stupid. fr
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>>107911530
>>>/lgbt/
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>>107910995
>the professionals
That's really the thing. OP and his defenders are writing toys in the proverbial basement. They don't have to ship working code. They've never have millions of dollars depending on their code. So they have no idea what that actually entails.
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>>107911088
>you're just ignorant.
No. Anon is pretending to not understand so he can win a skirmish in his """culture""" war.
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>>107911529
if it was fully written in rust than there wouldn't be 51.9% of rust language but 100% of rust language.
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>>107911534
Don't be too hard on him. All the smart cniles already moved to Rust. He is trying his best to make an argument.
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>>107911541
I can say for my part the rust code I delivered works exactly as required and hasn't had a single "NullPointerException" or any other runtime failure like the other programs at my work do. If the invariants don't match the spec, my program is pretty verbal at logging and letting the user know what is wrong.

It's honestly insane how easy it is to use Rust and write programs that "just work" because monads are based, tokio just works and writing codec using tokio-util is easy as fuck.
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>>107911556
>what is documentation
>what are examples
>what are build scripts
By your definition no OS is written in any language.
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>>107911556
Kernel is 99.2% Rust.
Rest is assembly and makefiles
https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os/kernel
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i only like to laugh at rust's blind cult like followers as it is a holy grail above all other programming languages.
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>>107911592
>t. didn't the thread
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>>107911541
Windows up to 10 is written entirely in c and assembly, only 11 has any rust in it (guess which one everyone hates and is switching from)
Arduinos and raspberry pis are coded in c
Physics engines are coded in c
Rendering piplines are coded in c
Shells are coded in c
Compilers for other languages are coded in c, I could go on.
But this delutional rustroon wants to pretend all that never happened because a youtuber told him some horseshit about "le heckin unsafe memory". You cant make this shit up.
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>>107911541
>>107911572
Neither of you have ever written any real code, ever. You arent programmers. You watched youtube videos about rust and are repeating what you heard here.
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I will never forgive Rust for finally managing to sneak functional programming into mainstream systems programming.
FP is a supermagnet for autists, trannies and other neurodivergent undesirables.
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>>107911508
libc is antiquate library (retarded), if you rewrite it in Rust it wont become better.

the ultimate goal of SE is to make software better.

rewriting is a low effort activity (mostly) and Rust readability is very poor. the mental drive of rust folks is the same as the mental drive of copyists, i mean those who copy stuff around without the intent to make it better. thats why retards who write rust are kinda unhealthy, i wont say troons, but troons too. Mozilla started rust - lost to Google. rust is for losers.
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>let's rewirte clownflare in rust
>after 56 days, the whole clownflare service and approximatelly 90% if the internet went down
>b-b-but its memory safe how could this happen?
&
>lets invent something new from scratch instead of re-writing everything
rust cult
>how do we do that? we only know how to rewrite existing code with rust
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>>107911624
>Arduinos and raspberry pis are coded in c
>Physics engines are coded in c
>Rendering piplines are coded in c
>Shells are coded in c
>Compilers for other languages are coded in c
Now, check when they were created and when was Rust created.
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>>107911670
The parts that failed in Cloudflare were written in C++.
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>>107911642
JS has been doing FP before Rust was a thing.
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>>107911635
What the fuck are you talking about dipshit? Not everyone is unemployed like (You).
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>>107911677
So you admit theres no reason to fix what isnt broken in those cases right?>>107911715
Saying positive things about rust is a dead giveaway. You dont write code and you are a nigger.
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>>107911690
it was always easier to blame someone else instead to admit your own mistake and provide a solution to fix that error. i bet you even deluded yourself into thinking you are a real women.
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>>107911744
>So you admit theres no reason to fix what isnt broken in those cases right?
I haven't said anything about this particular topic.
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>>107911745
>it was always easier to blame someone else instead to admit your own mistake and provide a solution to fix that error.
I don't recall Cloudflare doing anything of sorts.
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>if it isn't broke, than fix it and fix it and fix it until its broken
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>>107911763
i don't recall clwonflare was stuttering before it was rewritten in rust. epic fail
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>>107911277
>That was C's strategy.
Couldn't be more wrong. C didn't have a "strategy" to take over the world. C and Unix came from subversive hackers who were sick of the corporate mandates for complex software systems that were becoming popular in those days. They wanted something as simple as you can get while still being readable and somewhat portable. They wanted it to be relatively easy to write a C compiler for whatever dusty old machines they had lying around. Not so they can force the world to use it but because the wanted to bring some fun and sanity back into their professional lives. C is capable enough to write systems software but simple enough for people to write their little utilities which can be developed on the same C based Unix systems. C was not aggressively promoted and shilled. C was pulled kicking and screaming into standards groups because people who saw its value kept writing their own compilers, libraries and environments.
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>>107911231
Mainstream Linux distributions are planning to switch or will switch to Rust based Coreutils. And that's only happening because of the yelling from Rust. Busybox developers aren't yelling at people to force their way into distros. You tried to dismiss me and you failed.
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>>107911895
>fanfiction preface
holy kek, lol.
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>>107911236
By irreplaceable I mean once things get wedged into popular foundational technologies it's hard to remove them. Not irreplaceable in the sense that Rust offers something of value that can't be gotten anywhere else.
Rust needs to force people to use it because it's a big, complex, dynamic (features being added all the time) language with a steep learning curve and unfamiliar semantics. That's not something that projects or enterprises will gladly take on willingly.
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>>107911624
>Arduinos and raspberry pis are coded in c
>Physics engines are coded in c
>Rendering piplines are coded in c
>Shells are coded in c
Not all of them.

>Compilers for other languages are coded in c, I could go on.
They're usually written in the same language they compile, except for C compilers which are written in C++ because C is a terrible language for compilers.
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>>107911961
>fiction
Not only are Rust shills hostile to the history of the industry, they're actively trying to rewrite it to promote their own agenda.
If they acknowledged how C became popular they would be forced to admit their tactics for pushing Rust are so distasteful.
The cult-like behavior of some of these Rust developers is scary.
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>>107911895
C was little known outside of Bell Labs because UNIX wasn't popular. Professional systems programmers didn't use C at all. C was never any kind of status symbol.

>C and Unix came from subversive hackers
That's true, but the rest of your post is wrong. The "subversive hackers" wanted C to replace everything. They pushed C into standards groups so they can make industries mandate C. And it was the most aggressively promoted and shilled language of all time.
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>>107912009
>Not all of them
Ok? "Not all". I don't think there are any problem domains where all solutions are entirely coded in one language. Not any of any reasonable size anyway. The fact is, most embedded, systems and high performance software is written in C or C++, and not by force or aggressive shilling, either.
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>>107912057
People immediately jumped ship for Java and C++ as soon as it became readily available. Only literal low value coders are still using C. I understand why the FOSS ecosystem is still heavily C, but even that isn't a given in 2026, especially since modern C++ can mostly straight compile and extend C with little fanfare.

You're a delusional retard.
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>>107912113
>wanted C to replace everything
No, they wanted C to solve their own problems. They never went to other departments and said "You have to use C or else you're wrong".
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>>107912130
>People immediately jumped ship for Java and C++ as soon as it became readily available.
"Not only are Rust shills hostile to the history of the industry, they're actively trying to rewrite it to promote their own agenda."
Like clockwork.
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>>107912138
>>107912154
Read the Unix-Haters Handbook, written by people who were forced to use C and Unix because the operating systems they were using were getting replaced.
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reminder that when kernel programmers started talking about the truth behind the rust replacement agenda linus banned ALL russian contributors
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>>107912193
I assumed at first it was cia spyware. This moment made me realize its NATO spyware.
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>>107910310
>it's a programmer fault.
it's 100% the programmers fault. rust was invented to hold the hands of retards that can't read manuals or make sure their code isn't going to be shit.

>>107910392
>We don't have as good a technical solution for logic bugs in general.
we do. people have been working on this problem for years - software and hardware solutions

>>107912193
had nothing to do with it.

once again, /g/ proves to the world that this is the home of the losers of internet. there are pedophiles on the tor network that get more respect than russians and this board's users.
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>>107911815
>i don't recall clwonflare was stuttering before it was rewritten in rust.
You must be 18 years or older to post on 4chan.
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>>107911944
>Mainstream Linux distributions are planning to switch or will switch to Rust based Coreutils.
Name one except Ubuntu and it's derivatives.
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>>107911277
you should watch the video of C++ retard who transitioned to Rust. there he argues how C++ is bad, very precise arguments. he has some Greek statues in background, same as those REDOX-OS thing wallpaper.

the problem is that you cannot follow these kind of people because they have spend too much time in the sewers. would a smart Greek profile person spend lot of time in the sewer? rhetorical Q
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>>107912193
Russians will have the superior OS, not trooned, not jeeted, no retarded shit written by morons like this one: >>107912791 .
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>>107908724
>brown filtered
I love that language lmao
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>>107908724
Anon remember, true programmers work in ASM using nano
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>>107913801
lol. cope
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C and Scheme. Now those are freedom loving languages.
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>>107915338
Freedom from love perhaps.
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>>107915347
>t. takes hrt to become the gf
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>trannies trannies trannies: the thread
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>>107915664
you should be happy about it
that means your PR is working
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Rust was born for a cause. The old way is all wrong. We are here to revolutionize.

That's why it attracts libtards, and in particular, trannies. They are not really interested in creation, they just hate the world and want to destroy it.
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>>107915702
>your
I don't even program. Just sick of threads bringing up dickgirls every 2 seconds.
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>>107916308
then youre at the wrong place.
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>>107909675
Meanwhile in the real world linux nginx and sqlite continue to power the entire human race



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